what kind of gun would you need on a spacecraft to hit a target on the ground
>>65247745the kind that shoots huge tungsten dildos
>>65247761For when you need absolute penetration?
>>65247745Something both dense enough and resilient enough to reenter the atmosphere and deliver massive affect on target. Basically >>65247761
>>65247783yes it needs to survive re-entry
>>65247786I see. After all, there's no way one volley of tungsten rods could satisfy your mother.
>>65247793my mother russia is very resilient, thank you.
>>65247745The kind that shoots guided rocket-powered projectiles.>>65247785Deorbiting inert tungsten rods won't get you CEP smaller than an oblast. That might be within Russia's standards but it's not useful for any serious military purpose.
>>65247828You can guide something without it having direct propulsion idiot-kun.
>>65247783no but imagine something like the khaminei assasination except they dont even sneak in planes though anti-air-defenses they just shoot him from orbit
>>65247761>>65247785Watch the Scott Manley video about orbital mechanics. Rods from God would require an impractical amount of energy to deorbit, let alone put into orbit.
>>65247835In the vacuum of space? Deorbiting them without propulsion as well? We are lucky to have a genius like you among us.
>>65247894>impracticalIt's not that it's "impractical", no, the whole concept is strictly inferior to what we already have and just utterly fucking retarded to anyone who knows jack shit about anything more complicated than their dick.
>>65247745Idk maybe like a missile or something >savagessick space animation btw
>>65247745Lasurs
>>65247828>Deorbiting inert tungsten rods won't get you CEP smaller than an oblast. Make the rods smaller, like we did with Tactical Nukes. You could probably work out something that'd be on the Syndicate Wars scale.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fySDXRiyEg0
Something a lot of settings get wrong about about space combat is that fuel for maneuvers is limited to an bottlenecking degree. Actual space fleets would be connected by miles of cables and they'd be randomly tugging on each other to achieve pre-emptive evasion. This form of movement would also keep their thermal signatures low.
>>65247919So... You're saying it's impractical then?
>>65249098Why does that ship have 38cm German battleship guns?
>>65249148It's not about the guns. It's about the ammo.
>>65247835And how do you suggest guiding an inert piece of tungsten, a fucking guidewire?
>>65249208Same way SpaceX guides the Starship during re-entry. You put fins on it.
>>65249148It also has the bllack and white stripes Prinz Eugen and Bismarck used for a while.It's just Japan being in love with WW2 ships.
>>65247745If you want it to come in steep enough to have significant energy you are going to need at least 2km/s of delta-v and the ability to survive a very hot reentery.
>>65249227Assuming you're dead set on using a fucking tungsten rod because it sounds cool, I also assume you want it to go at mach shitfire so it does something other than just bury itself thirty feet into the groundso if you want any kind of appreciable speed, you'll be enveloping your fin-steered piece of inert metal in a sheet of plasma, which will blind it to any kind of on-board guidance kit. How are you proposing to get past that?
>>65249246Same way SpaceX guides the Starship during re-entry (which lands on a 20x20m launch pad). Basically you use advanced guidance systems.Did you know that the space shuttle landed on runways? They just used human pilots for that.
>>65249287It works on Starship because it's wide enough that the plasma doesn't reach all the way around the hull. It can then send signals directly upwards at starlink satellites. A tungsten rod falling vertically would be entirely coated in plasma
>>65249476Plasma may block radio signals, but it won't block inertial guidance.
>>65247745Just build space colonies and drop them instead.
>>65247745You wouldn't need a gun. All you'd need to do is de-orbit the thing and now its going towards the ground at ten thousand miles an hour.
>>65249098Maybe you're just wrong and should play children of a dead earth instead.
>>65247894rods from god work in very high orbits like GEOyou can just shoot directly with guns from LEO tho, with some lead due to 8km/sec relative velocity
>>65249148It's from a series about panty shots. Just roll with it.
>>65250676You have no physics based reason to doubt me. Your childish, inaccurate videogame with infinitely fueled ships does not dissuade me.
>>65249098>Space shuttles with warship turretsWhat kino this be?
>>65247745Sol Bianca did it back in 1991.
>>65249287>They just used human pilots for that.The crew did not steer the shuttle, it was full instrument landing.
Regardless of how you cut it, you're still basically shooting an ICBM, you just frontloaded the first stage and wasted a whole lot of upmass to get into a proper orbit.Your time between button-press to target-go-boom will actually go up on average compared to a ground launch since in LEO you need to be in the right point of your orbit to launch for a given target. And if you're in geosync, it will take longer to drop the payload than for an ICBM launch to connect.Also your strategic weapon system is now a sitting duck visible 24/7 by anyone with a $2000 telescope.
>>65250863you've never even heard of CoaDE
>>65250895Agent Aika
>>65247745An understanding that the 'gun' would need to be in an orbit that passes over the target and a 'bullet' that has the ability to deorbit itself.The common trope of shooting down as you pass overhead is in no way how it works.
>>65249476just find some wavelengths the plasma is transparent to.
>>65249476Just make a fuckoff big tungsten rod
>>65250786>a series about panty shots You could have just said it's anime and saved some wear and tear on your keyboard.
>>65249098tethering spacecraft together will defiantly be used to provide the crew acceleration for comfort\health.i could see something like a tether be used to dodge long distance shots by pulling on the tether or releasing it to change the trajectory of the ships
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