How does actual delivery of gravity nukes like the B61 even work? Is this just a one way trip for the pilot? Is he expected to outrun the nuclear blast after dropping the bomb? And given how close you need to get to deliver it, isn't it incredibly risky compared to a cruise missile? Wouldn't you at the very least give it a JDAM-ER kit or something?TL;DR: I think gravity nukes are retarded, change my mind.
>>65250794Time delay fuse, parachute retarded. B-61 nukes are tactical not strategic when deployed from a stealth aircraft. The B-61 is dial a yield and the mission commander will be very invested in getting his pilot and aircraft home safely.
>>65250794It's mostly a political exercise for leaders in the Benelux, Italy, and Germany. American missiles are scary. American bombs are still scary, but not as much. The average voter is retarded.
>>65250794Technically all nukes are gravity nukes.
>>65250794>How does actual delivery of gravity nukes like the B61 even work?Toss bombing>gravity nukes are retarded, change my mindTrvke
>>65250794Go play Nuclear Option and see how effective they are.
>>65250804>time delay fuse, parachute retardedTell me more, those two go together right? Can't get an airburst otherwise. And dropping it to the ground where it can either be destroyed or is damaged may make it not go boom when desired.>tactical not strategicIt feels like a population center or industrial site is more difficult to defend than an army formation or base with all the air defense bells and whistles. I'd double prefer the standoff weapon in that case.>>65250813Oh right I forgot about the Pershings. Never made sense to me that you'd prefer the less scary nuclear deterrent over the more scary one when you're on the target list anyway.
>>65250886>Oh right I forgot about the Pershings. Never made sense to me that you'd prefer the less scary nuclear deterrent over the more scary one when you're on the target list anyway.There was also the nuclear tomahawks.
>>65250886You do know gravity bombs can carry on for miles on intertia and dont drop straight down, right?You do know even the earliest nooks were fused fir airburst and didnt ground inpact like a loony toons cartoon, right?You arent stupid, right?
>>65250794Kobe!
>>65250851>my every fucking nuke gets BRRRT'd out of the skyIt's so maddening. They should include an impact fuze for at least detonating upon interception. Granted, combatants in NO are peer adversaries, I don't expect soviets/russians to be able to intercept a small gravity bomb midair.
>>65250794The B61-12 is relatively low yield, only 50 kt max. Even subsonic bombers like B-52s can deliver it safely as long as they drop it from high altitude and turn around.
>>65250794True, it's really non-credible, I bet it's never even happened before
>>65250886Pershings really scared the Russians because they could be accurately targeted at Soviet high-level command posts, which were instrumental in deciding when and where the OMGs would be unleashed... one of the very few decisions that was up to the generals (most were preordained by THE PLAN) specifically because it couldn't be made in advance. Losing those command posts at the wrong time could unravel an entire invasion plan.So, the KGB and other state tools went full-out against Pershing, making sure to get all of their 5th columnists and useful idiots in Europe bleating from the same page. That's why so many Europeans were so angry about Pershings: not because they were more dangerous to the civilian population, but because their Soviet handlers were *really* upset about them.
>>65250794Yep you just out run the blast. Simple as that.
>>65252287you are like little baby, observe.
You are all like little baby.
>>65250794it's called a radar horizon, we do a little trollinghttps://www.aviacionline.com/english/defence/-we-flew-below-50-feet-iranian-f-5-pilots-reveal-how-they-bombed-a-u-s-base-in-kuwait_a6a33f753da9545c03bc99724
>>65252576ah the days before cheap and ubiquitous (but I repeat myself) MANPADS
>>65250794Youtube has a pretty complete library of movies that teach you how to toss bomb, over the shoulder bomb, laydown bomb.
>>65253230for me it's the high altitude tossCEP doesn't matter when you're lobbing 700kt weapons
>>65250794>Is he expected to outrun the nuclear blast after dropping the bomb?Yes.
>>65252561>OMGsThe what?
A B-29 "outran" a nuclear blastWhat makes you think a jet can't?There's been literally hundreds of nuclear tests carried out by air-dropped bombs and none of them have resulted in the aircraft being taken out by its own payload
>>65254177NTA, but the Tu-95 of the Tsar bomb had a 50/50 chance of not making it, but I'd say it's an edge case.
>>65250794They are mostly tactical nukes and not expected to fly over an enemy city.As for the pilot / plane it takes a lot longer than you might expect for a bomb to fall and that time is increased with lobs and retarders.
>>65254376Tu-95 is not particularly fast and the Tsar bomb was the biggest ever dropped. So its safe to say that any jet will outrun any nuclear gravity bomb that it could be equipped with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMfpFcMY96QYou can fly pretty close to a nuclear blast without shooting yourself down
>>65252335That mechanic exists to keep lob tossing from breaking the game and forces players to suppress AD.
>>65252561Man it is fucking UNREAL how easy leftists are to manipulate by foreign powers, they completely ignore the USSR's SS-20 but protest against the counter?
>>65254567>they completely ignore the USSR's SS-20 but protest against the counter?You realize the INF-treaty was about getting rid of short and medium range nukes on both sides?
>>65253897operational maneuver group. read cold war military history, the OMG was basically the soviet elite forward-reserve unit intended to punch through western lines and race deep into the west after the first zerg waves exhaust them
>>65254839Yeah, but the protests were about the Pershing II you shitskin.
