I can only imagine how much fun the operators must have.
>>65252300I was just thinking about this. Both Russia and even Ukraine are still fighting with old weapons when most of the damage is being done with drones. Some kind of net-gun would disable most of the ground FPVs so they should abandon their AKs and M4s unless they're doing a trench raid and adopt a layered approach for infantryVideo of someone taking out a DJI drone at a football match with a roll of toilet paper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRJjBYp76QYThey should accordingly do something similar. I swear, Russian troops would actually fare better if they all were given 10 rolls of toilet paper to throw at drones than guns at this point.
How to organize squads now since like 70% of all casualties are from drones now:>all squads have shotgunners>the rest have rifle rounds designed to splinter as well as normal rounds >combined volley of bird-shot and rifle rounds are enough to stop most drones >troops carry a small net tied to a ball they can throw as a last line of defense>at least one guy with a net gun >APCs and IFV have 360 manual and automatic turrets designed to shoot down drones >support drones fly around with nets and shotguns to shoot down other drones.
>>65252314>most of the damage is being done with drones. >>65252323>like 70% of all casualties are from drones nowSauce
>>65252323>70% of all casualties are from drones now
>>65252357It's 80% now.https://www.businessinsider.com/drones-80-percent-battlefield-hits-russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-2026-1
>troops carry a small net tied to a ball they can throw as a last line of defense20 gauge semi auto pistol that can also be used for room trench clearing. Deliberately designed to look like a 40K Bolt Pistol for morale purposes and to encourage self funding via civilian sales. >2030: Rappers start dressing like Commissars and a typical Chicago drive by shooting is accompanied by cries of 'FOR THE EMPEROR NIGGA!'
>>65252405Also>muh monke homosex soldiers, >muh better trained Wectoid supersoliders won't get dronedLet's say it's true and the % casualty against a NATO standard army is 1/4 of that, i.e., 25%. That IS STILL A STAGGERING number for a newly maturing weapons system.
>>65252412You forget that HATO would get air superiority over russia, drone operators literally broadcast their position.
>>65252364Drones are literally just smart artillery, so it makes perfect sense they are forming such a majority of casualtiesIf you told frogs and krauts back in 1915 that 110 years later the future would see flying mortars that seek out a target like a bee seeking a flower they'd go>Oh of course, that's the dream for artillery isn't it
>>65252412Moodern (breech loading) artillery firing explosive shells (airburst, shrapnel) had a similar impact.Massed machine guns, too.Somboday will come up with something. Counter UAVs, automatic net launchers, RWS with AI, lasers to fry the CCD.We are at the stage where everyboody comes up with crazy ideas how to break the stalemate caused by ww1 trenches.
>>65252412Drones are effectively the dream end goal of both airpower and artillery. Both systems were a means to get an explosive onto the enemy. Eventually both systems had ways of guiding themselves explosives to the target, but the means of delivery (the gun and aircraft) were still expensive and took a huge amount of specialist training to become proficient at. Both systems were too slow and expensive to justify using on individual soldiers most of the time.Drones however are their own propulsion system, are much easier and cheaper to train crews for (the operators have alot of training, but you can train more at the same time with less space etc) and are versatile enough that every feasible target is on the menu. The compilation videos tend to focus on infantry and vehicle kills, half the time they also hit antennas starlink terminals, surveillance cameras and damaged vehicles. They also act as their own recon. You're essentially seeing the reinvention of airpower. Yes, eventually there will be a decent counter to drones, but they are now firmly integrated into combined arms warfare.
>>65252300So are those loitering drones? If so, would it be worth it to wait for the battery to run out and if any soldiers find them, to take and repurpose them to be used against the Russians?
honestly thinking of getting into fpv drones as a hobby looks fun
Air jousting
This is Robot Wars tier levels of silliness, imagine coming up with different improvised devices to fight other drones, so far we have lances, nets, mounted guns, what else?
>>65252615It's observation drones
>>65252314>Russian troops would actually fare better if they all were given 10 rolls of toilet paperAnon... They don't even have toilets, and you expect toilet paper? Multiple rolls even? Not to mention that it's deeply problematic and offensive for fresh immigrants to the new multi-ethnic Russia!
>>65252626>some shafts are in multiple clips>getting above 1:1 k:dThats genuinely incredible. Either taking out multiple in a single sortie or being able to RTB so you can reuse the frame is very useful compared to other counter methods we have seen.
>>65252571There it is. That's what I was looking for. Well done sir. Someone still remembers the old ways.
>>65252300>"BLLYYYAAAAAaaaaaaa~"
>>65252364see>>65252405
One day, not very far in the future, thousands of drones will be controlled simultaneously in a single AO without direct human intervention using datacenters that slurp almost as much water as OP slurps semen. There will be no operators having fun. Just OP having fun, slurping.
>>65252300>I can only imagine how much fun the operators must have.>Meanwhile the operators
>>65252323>70% of all casualties are from drones nowits about 80% as that other anon said, its up to ~90% in harder areas of the front. This doesn't account for disease or irrecoverable losses from a med-evac for non-drone wounds delayed for days, weeks or even months from drone saturation.>combined volley of bird-shot and rifle rounds are enough to stop most dronesMost anti-drone patrols along logistics roads vastly prefer solid rifle rounds since it is far more likely to kill drones than duplex, triplex-esque rounds. Birdshot or similar rounds likely cant reliably penetrate warhead housing or component housing and do enough damage afterwards. (vid related, although its a rarer instance of a drone shrugging off 5.45 to its component housing)For direct actions squads, even if you did have the firepower, most non-fiber optic drones fly at mach-fuck and can just repeatedly dive on the squad until they are killed or pinned to where artillery can target them. Most interviewed soldiers share the sentiment that any group of over 3-4 people is practically suicide and will get 10 drones a minute thrown at you and artillery zeroed within 2 minutes (can be ~30 seconds in more saturated areas)>APCs and IFV have 360 manual and automatic turrets designed to shoot down dronesA great but not novel idea, there already is development and prototypes but I haven't heard any utilized beyond SPAA use against Geran-type UAVs. Aforementioned artillery kill-chain also fucks up APS radar for long term use if you want to use currently issued APS systems.>support drones fly around with nets and shotguns to shoot down other drones.This is done a metric fuckton but limited resources means they often target larger recon UAVs or larger strike UAVs. (Molniya, Orlan, Darts etc.) Discovering and actually acquiring drones is a much bigger hurdle than just simply large area jamming (or killing RF-Repeater quadcopters) and killing operators which is a better use of limited resources.
>>65256329Look at that video and countless like them. A lot of the infantry is being taken out by highly manouverable but slow moving little RC Quadcopters with a warhead on it. They need to be issuing soldiers little cast nets as a least means of defense. It's better than throwing your gun at them. Right now these little RC Quadcopters have exposde rotor blades that are easy to disrupt. They may adapt by shielding them, which would reduce aerodynamics and add weight.
>>65256293You know the rules
>>65252633>Robot WarsFlamethrowers, CO2 flippers are the obvious next choice. Eventually spinners will become the meta.
what's up with this constant cope of "get some birdshot and clay pigeon marksmen"? These drones do not fly like plates made of clay, they fly like tiny fucking things with four rotors on them doing nasty tricks. Nets only work if you manage to stealthily approach one - if one is already flying at you, a net being thrown won't stop the goddamn momentum, let alone the fact that it doesn't need to score a direct hit to kill you in the first place
>>65256542And so do I.
