>>65252351
Not really, we saw that they're fairly easy to intercept with helicopters and APKWS. Iran fired well over a thousand at Israel in the 12 day war and none got through.

/k/ topics are the most low-effort of any 4chan board

>>65252475
Ask me how I know you haven't been to /tg/ in the last 5 years.

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This would not be happening if we had just listened to the reformer-chads and built Aero Gavins.

>>65252351
How long until someone shoves one up their ass?

>>65252351
Yeah, It'll be interesting to see if Cuba is stocking up because they could make the US pay for an invasion with just a couple of hundred.
Lots of oil rigs around there.

>>65252695
/v/ is the worst of all the boards, honestly. /tv/'s also pretty bad, but nothing's worse than /v/.

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>>65252351
>brown wunderwaffe lawnmower drone
No.

>>65252368
>none
holy mother of cope

mods=gods btw just thought you should know

>>65253052
/d/and /mlp/

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>4 years of these pieces of shit being sent into Ukraine
>the war is still going on
How fucking retarded are turdies? They're calling it a game changer when they don't even know what the game is.

>>65253340
>matrix management meets the OODA loop
congrats your strategic thinking has reached 1980s levels of sophistication
I don't know why I bother with this board
must be nostalgia

>>65253214
it's true though, only some missiles got through

prove me wrong

>>65256536
small brain copypasta

>>65252351
I wonder how many of these you could buy for 300 billion dollars

>>65256575
>300 billion dollars
It's a reconstruction assistance fund, they don't get the money directly and thus every last cent is going to be spent on black transgender mimes. Have you never interacted with the US government before?

>>65256575
a lot less when you have to rebuild all of your production infrastructure

>>65252351
they didn't.
also you're going to keep spamming this because you're desperate for our attention, signaling that we're more important than you.

>>65252351
The US has more of them than Iran and still lost, so I think you'll have you reconsider your premises.

>>65256536
you can keep spamming this over and over again every single day until your fingers bleed, as you have been, but it will not change the fact that iran did not win militarily, it did nearly no damage to the US military while getting decimated itself, and the only reason mentally ill thirdies like you are cheering about it because you like lying that sandpeople hiding below ground in fear and not really doing anything in return is the same as winning a kinetic conflict with force, which is how you keep trying to portray the whole thing, because you are insecure, but also very desperate for approval, and delusional enough to twist and lie until you live in an alternate reality where a bunch of drones that keep getting countered harder each year by cheaper and cheaper defense systems is a "gamechanger".

lol fuck brownoids

>>65256667
brownoids fucked you

>>65256656
Iran will rebuilt its military and nuclear program with American money, though.

They will probably also secretly develop nukes to avoid getting blown up again.

Overall Iran achieve their main objective, be enough of a nuisance that the US would rather give up than go into another total war in the Middle-East.

>>65256671
>w-we fucked you!!!!!!
lol brownoids lmao

>>65256680
it won't, though, you're still lying about that, the money aint coming from the US. also the deal is already off, because iran started chimping out over something or other again.

>>65256656
that's a lot of text, but tell me what strategic objectives the US achieved

Tactical victories are nice
Operational victories are great
Strategic victories are what matter

>>65256656
The Taliban never won militarily either, yet they are in control in Afghanistan, not the US puppet government

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>>65256656
On Wikipedia, they have already changed the page to state an Iranian victory, on the basis that most reliable sources are calling it an Iranian victory

>>65252351
>poorer countries stockpile
Guess what, the Richer ones could stockpile even more.

>>65256730
>they
As it turns out the page was updated by a bunch of Muslims and possible seething Jews. Also the us never stated it wanted regime change, so right there this whole page is bullshit, not to mention the amount of skull fucking the embargo was doing

>>65256730
>digger wasp makes another digger wasp reply
yes, a bunch of mudslimes, including you, are astroturfing VEEERY hard on wikipedia pages because you can't win in real life, we already know, you've been screeching about it like a lolcow for days.

what the hell kind of insult is "digger wasp"

>>65252368
>None got through
Ok buddy
>Easy to intercept
Kinda true, but you had the US air force, RFA and the nose tribe themselves shooting them down and still failed to dab on all of them

this is the early days of drone warfare. i am more interested in what things will look like in 30 years or so. Are drones as they currently are just a blip before anti-drone tech makes them much more constrained? Will everything become drone swarms orchestrated by AI?

>>65252351
>every poorer country gonna be stockpiling them now.
completely useless for an actual war

Russia makes >50k Geran-2 drones per year
and the impact is... underwhelming
most of their (high value) damage is done with much more expensive and complex cruise missiles or ballistic missiles

there are maybe 3 dozen countries in the world who even have the industrial capacity to make that amount
and not that much more that could afford to buy in these quantities

the only thing these cheap drones are good is terror bombing civilians
which prior was limited by the amount of sorties your air force could

for urban warfare, fpv drones are a game changer
but if you have enough armor with non-retarded personell (doesn't leave latch open kek),
they're pretty useless, or rather you need 20+ hits

They should be treated like mines and internationally banned.

>>65256909
Why would any country agree to that, they'll just get their asses kicked by whoever doesn't sign the agreement

>>65252368
put some manpads on them and shoot down the 40 million dollar helicopters

>>65252351
poor countries mostly use their army against the citizenry

>>65256656
>“But was unrestricted submarine warfare really a failure? Look how many ships that were sunk!”

That’s the equivalent of many of the commentators here insisting it wasn’t really a loss

>>65257303
>retarded, arbitrary historical comparison that doesn't fit
yep, it's thirdie time

>>65256807
a digger wasp is someone who behaves like a preprogrammed, analog computer and can only repeat the same preprogrammed action, in this case spamming the exact same seethe about people not taking his shitty astroturfed wikipedia page seriously, over and over and over again, despite it not actually working.

basically he's not a person, even a dog has a more adaptable brain.

>>65256871
>this is the early days of drone warfare
it is also the very early days of all the counters that absolutely shut drone warfare the fuck down, but if we keep ignoring all the extremely cheap counters that are becoming more and more common i'm sure armored warfare will finally be replaced with only FPV spam and thirdies will finally get their dreadnought moment.

The actual winner is ensuring your civilian populace has no option but to silently support the schizo military regime that is willing to die to spite Israel. Same thing would happen with North Korea most likely if you whacked the Kims, they'd just double down on the apocalyptic cult mentality.

>>65257356
as opposed to the self-hating rulers of the west who started this war on behalf of israel?

>>65257431
If Trump was as big a Zionist as people claimed he would have done a ground invasion to appease Netanyahu who now is panicking over the US not really being the useful golem they were under Neocons.

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>>65253052
/vt/, especially after the temporary shutdown

>>65257356
I love this cope that Israel somehow isn't the primary driver of every conflict in the Middle East. It's all those heckin Muzzies wanting the apocalypse (please don't look up Third Temple Messianic Judaism)

>>65253340
That's unfair, a slav vs slav war basically goes to the death.

>>65257780
/k/ is basically the State Department board atp, that's why you see copes that not even teenage girls on tiktok fall for

>>65257780
>going full dindu on the Muslims' behalf
Does consanguinity run in your family by chance?

>>65257793
It does in Ashkenazi populations

>>65257793
Iran is some shithole on the other side of the planet that just wants to be left alone to durka durka in peace. Israel is some shithole on the other side of the planet that is demanding my country to censor my speech, take my tax money, and get my country involved in meaningless forever wars that bankrupt my country. Said country is also actively engaging in a genocide (also using my money) and possesses an arsenal of undisclosed nuclear weapons.

Who do you think I should prefer?

>>65257810
>Iran is some shithole on the other side of the planet that just wants to be left alone to durka durka in peace
Iran most definitely is not just some shithole that wants to be left alone.

>>65252351
They're only good against rich countries though who have an electrical network. That is the only meaningful target for these

>>65257810
I wish Israel were half as genocidal as you think they are. I don't want any pisslamists interrupting my Pride parades.

>>65258143
NTA, but I agree with >>65257810 except the peace part. But he's right about the fact that it's a shithole on the other side of the world. But almost every shithole hates America, doesn't mean I want a costly and prolonged war to spread destruction and vindicate their hatred. I can understand the anti-nuclear bombing runs done in 2025, but it's obvious there was other interests involved in the 2026 Iran War

>>65257810
>muh genocide
t. Omar Al-Muhammad, American patriot

>>65256730
I don't get this, well I do, but I think it's very stupid. The war isn't over. Iran's sweetheart deal was scuttled by their own actions. "Global economic disruption and fuel crisis" didn't really happen. Most of the damage was contained. Even the fires that couldn't be put out were largely controlled.

>>65258425
If America can't get God's Chosen rapists to stop murdering children in Lebanon, there's zero reason to believe that they will abide by the other terms of the deal. Iran still holds all the cards, they have no incentive to ignore the other side not abiding by the terms of the deal.

>>65258532
Which cards does Iran hold?

>>65258535
Blowing up more gulf refineries, getting the Houthis to blockade the Bab al Mandab, blowing up the pipeline the Saudis are using to bypass Hormuz, just shooting more missiles at Israel for the hell of it.

>>65258548
Oh no, depriving Arabs of oil money. The absolute horror. Meanwhile their economy rots under blockade and locals become restless.

>>65258532
Why would you expect a country not party to the agreement to abide by it?

>>65258570
because they get 3.4 billion dollars in aid annually

>>65252351
You should be stockpiling them too. You think you're gonna win a war with your little bullets? Lmao

>>65258548
And literally the entire world is going to let them chimp out indefinitely, huh?

>>65259681
thirdies somehow think that iran can crash the global economy and cause mass famine, yet still would never see a ground invasion. it's so detached from reality yet trump caved

>>65259681
If America can't stop them, no one can. And America started this anyway

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>>65259721
>thirdies are now convincing themselves that a standalone air campaign is the maximum military force that can be applied to them
It really does take only one generation to forget, eh?

>>65259760
>t.obese mutt who won't even get 5000 km near the battlefield

>>65256656
holy cope

>>65257791
I’m pretty sure a lot of posters here are active service and of course some of the jannies are straight up feds. It is insane though how people on /k/ still have the political takes of a 2000s neocon and treat war like a team sport and you have to take a side and back every decision made.

>>65261264
100% accurate anon

>>65261264
I miss the old /k/, when it was actual weapon users/enthusiasts, and not just a bunch of model UN kids and armchair geopolitics analyzers LARPing

>>65261264
Absolute retard, this is how everyone in the world treats it and how everyone should treat it.
You are just a pathethic tiny zoomeroid raised in a middle class amerimutt bubble unaware about anything real

>>65261312
And why should anyone listen to you, boomer?

>>65261315
What do you mean lister, retard? This is how everyone acts. Except nu-westoids who were raised to be a convenient non-confrontational golem

>>65261325
Lmao, you're calling ME a Golem? Look who's talking

>>65261328
This is your amerimutt cultural deformation talking.
Functional societies tend to commit and projecting their power.
You'll be a fine food, cattle.

>>65261343
Can you decide if you're pro America or not?

>>65261375
Can you realize that 7 billion people outside of your westoid self-succ decadent club have the same mindset as a neocon boomer, because it's just a natural healthy mindset?

>>65261382
Hmmm, I wonder which country is outside of America, has a boomer neocon mindset, and thinks of people as golems

>>65261395
>outside of America
Of course i see pissrael and america as a single entity

>>65261400
>doesn't like Israel or America
>still has a neocon mindset
Alright you gotta be trolling, there's no way

>>65252351
>disruptive technology exploits gap in defensive capabilities
>muh game changer
It will be funny once the opposite is true when the only militaries that don't get their cheeks clapped are the ones who can afford to equip C-UAS weapons on vehicles and dedicated platforms who can then curb stomp anybody who is relying entirely on drones.

>>65261406
As i said, you have zero knowledge about the world outside of your manufactured little bubble.
It will be a great shock for you that all this generational thing exists only in westoid narrative landscape.

>>65261410
Yeah it will never happen because you'll be too scared to have a land operation against anyone relying on drones

Only Arabs hate the existence of Israel. Hitler & Friends wanted Jewish influence out of Europe specifically. The LARPers on 4chan are beige at best.

>>65261304
I'll take the model UN kiddies over the culture wars spergs that infested the site from ~2014 - 2022 any day.

>>65261304
Old /k/ was a deeply jingoistic online hangout for GWoT vets and guntoting weirdos. Less has changed than you think, outside of there being more Paradox than S.T.A.L.K.E.R. players and droneniggers being the new slavshit spammers.

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>>65256730
>uhhhh we won because you stopped bombing the shit out of us and we're shooting a bottle rockets at commercial ships once in a while
>quick ahmed! go on wikipedia and change the article saying that we won!

>>65261312
Yeah that would make sense if our country isn’t being leeched off by parasitic jews who want to end white America and the nuclear family. Society attacks white men for existing and shames our culture and history but wants us to fight in their wars.

>>65261480
Cope harder

>>65261482

>>65261480
>now 4 months into the 4 day SMO
>Iranian government still in place
>Iran still has control over Ormuz
>Still able to strike Israel and US allies in the region
>the sole war goal is now to get the straight open, even though it wasn't even closed to begin with
>have to pay 300B$ in reparations

You managed to fuck up even harder than ziggers and no amount of /k/ope is going to change that. At least ziggers have the excuse of NATO helping Ukraine.

>>65261499
>have to pay 300B$ in reparations
The deal is dead. Iran killed it.

>>65261499
>if i keep trying to compare it to the russian invasion of ukraine people will stop laughing at me!
they won't.

>>65261499
>y-you managed to fuck up even harder than ziggers
this is how you know he's not a human, but rather some variety of thirdie, you'd have to be absolutely delusional to make this statement.
>k-kope
it's so glaringly and hilariously obvious that this is an angry brownskinned retard from nu/pol/ trying to live vicariously through iran as if it will somehow erase the last 4 years of utter humiliation that one of his favourite dictatorial shitholes (russia) went through.

you don't belong here, go back to your shithole board, this place is white people only.

>>65261490
he isn't, you are, stop projecting.

>>65259774
>n-no
i accept your concession.

>>65252368
Sounds like bullshit.

>>65261499
>SAAAAAAAAAAAAR BLOODY BITCH BENCHOD FUCKUP SAAAAAAAAAAR
How much izzat do you get per post?

>>65261518
"no u"

>>65261504
They will get 600 billies in the next one.
Also Trump will have to fuck a pig live

>>65261499
You're not getting the $300B ahmed, plus you're about to get bombed again knowing cheeto man.

>>65261538
Vance isn't going to like having to bend over on national TV.

>>65252351
China literally sold the Saudis an air defense truck with radar, jammers and a laser. The main complaint is that the laser kept overheating in the hot desert and sand in the air reduced beam quality. The radar and jammers worked as advertised.

>>65261536
that is what you guys do every time your firehose of falsehood is questioned, yes.

>>65261544
Checked and kek'd

>>65253225
>/mlp/
i don't think that board is capable of having a higher high than any board's lowest low.

>>65261564
I don't know. At least /mlp/ actually seems to like what they talk about and engage with the subject matter. Do /v/ and /tv/ actually play video games or watch movies and shows anymore?

>>65261544
>>65261557
>and other fantasies you can continue telling yourself after the deal you were already lying about the contents off fell through
mind you, i think kegsbreath and trump are a retard, but you guys need to tone down the brownoid delusion a little, it's getting very silly.

>>65261572
Look duder, I know you're an obvious ESL false flagger, but if you can't tell when people are telling funny jokes, you need to go back for more training from whatever state department sends you places to play catcher for third worlders.

>>65261554
"no u"
Cmon man, this is getting pathetic.

>>65261506
>>65261515
>>65261527
>>65261541
LMAO not one of you samefags are able to contradict even ONE fact i mentioned.

>>65261578
your joke just wasn't funny.
>>65261583
>n-no you're doing it!
not sending their best.

>>65261515
ZOG lost. You lost. No amount of screeching about brown people on the internet will ever make America majority white again or able to win a war again(have they actually even won a war EVER in their history infact??)

>>65261596
>NOOOO THEY'RE FACTS STOP MAKING FUN OF MEEEE!
cry your little heart out little zigger brown man.
don't worry, there's plenty more zigger humiliation coming, no, pretending that the iran fiasco is anywhere near the russian level of retardation will not save you from humiliation, sorry.
>a-and all of you are the same person
absolutely mindbroken.

>>65261601
>maybe if I repeat myself enough times, they'll start to believe me
idk what shithole you're from but surely you can do better than this. I honestly have yet to see one detailed and grounded-in-reality post from you "people" since this shit kicked off

>>65261601
>n-no, y-you lost!
keep screeching, your tears are extremely delicious
russia lost, you lost, trying to live vicariously through iran will not save you. you will forever be a turbobrownoid filled with envy, this is entirely your own fault.
>noooo we have to talk about iran pls russia is too embarrassing a shithole to even defend anymore pls bro can we just distract from it
lol.

>>65261600
Third "no u". That "peace deal" must've really pissed you off

>>65261614
You’ve been spamming since day 1 about a non-existent zog victory when even zogged mass media has called this the most humiliating defeat in zog history. Keep crying zoggie

>>65261601
ZOG didn't actually lose. Iran had an autismfit and threw away their victory.

>>65261610
Still not able to contradict that every single strategic objective of the Iran war has been failed spectacularly.
>Iranian government still here, decapitation strikes and regime change psyops failed and the people are now even more radicalized against ZOG
>ballistic program still very much intact and kicking
>lost all your bases in the region as a result
>alliance with Arab states weakened beyond saving
>failed to secure Ormuz, now basically begging Iran with gibs
>even stopping the nuclear program is now off the table

But please do continue screeching.

>>65261620
>n-nooooooo u
concession accepted, you are completely mindbroken.
>t-that peace deal
the one you that you kept lying about the contents of? the one that's now moot due to iran's chimpout?

>t-that must've pissed you off
hey, i'm not some spawn from nu/pol/ or /int/ that comes here, to this board, as a tourist, specifically to seethe at it's white denizens, that's you. you're not as important to me as i am to you, that's why you worship our opinions and keep flocking to /k/ even though you don't belong here.

>>65261610
>>65261614
>>65261618
You still lost btw

>>65261627
>alliance with Arab states weakened beyond saving
Lol sure

>>65261618
Iran won
Russia is winning
The urine will be wiped from the face of the earth
No amount of lying about an imaginary Zog victory will ever make it real

>>65261629
Entire post of cope.

>>65261622
>z-zog
99% chance this retard supports jewtin btw, what a parody of an actual human that can have actual non-contradictory opinions.
>>65261627
>n-no you're screeching, n-not me
lol
>ballistic program still very much intact and kicking
i'm sure they're welding rusty steel plates together with what they have left, kind of embarrassing to be proud of but sure.
>lost all your bases in the region as a result
they didn't.
>alliance with arab states weakened beyond saving
and other fantasies you can tell yourself, you were doing this delusional shit even long before the air campaign kicked of lel lmao.
>n-now basically beggin iran with gibs
and other fantasies you can tell yourself, you're particularly keen on lying about this part in particular for some reason.

>>65261644
ZOG cope rant

>>65261640
>n-no y-you're coping not me!
concession accepted.
>>65261639
>i-i am a retarded contrarian zigger that nearly stepped into a noose after the absolute humiliation that my favourite russian shithole endured by losing it's chance at winning a war they started, i am only now feeling brave enough to come to /k/ as a tourist again since trump stumbled over himself in iran
that's all i'm hearing, and it's sooo fucking delicious, you sound like a beaten wife who's only just barely managing to stand up for herself again.

russia is losing, sorry, my brown, dedovschina loving brownoid fren.
>z-zog
putin is a jew, this mindbreaks you.
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>>65261644
I don't blame you anon. Denying reality is the only way for you to keep pretending the US won something. You can keep coping if you want but we both know it won't change the truth : you got BTFO by thirdies with 70s tech under embargo for half a century, and the whole world saw that. I'd be mad if I were you too.

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>>65261655
putin is a jew, this mindbreaks you.

you literally never respond to this, it causes you faggots to run and hide like little bitches every single time
all of your convictions are completely phony, you're a brownoid and you fucking love jews, you love them so much you dedicate a majority of your day to humiliating yourself on a board you don't belong in JUST to maybe serve a russian jew that doesn't care about you.

>>65261644
Iran is gonna build more missiles and drones with that $300 billion check from ZOG, maybe even some nukes. Fuck lil timmy gon do? They will also tax all western ships that pas through hormuz and build more shaheds with that money

>>65261662
>oy vey, y-you're not w-white if you don't support our greatest ally !

>>65261657
Wow you are absolutely seething and angry, and are trying to divert from your failures.
You lost btw.
>Result: Iranian Victory

>>65261661
>n-no you're denying reality, n-not me
brownoid-san, this doesn't work in the real world, i get that you use mantras like this in your own head to make the real world go away, but it simply doesn't work like that.

>>65261662
Because it doesn't matter, you're the only one bringing up Putin, because you're desperately trying to divert from your failures.

>>65261669
>Result: Iranian Victory
>300 Billion

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>>65261667
>NOOOOOOOOOO HE'S NOT A JEW HE'S NOT A JEW
and here we go, this mindbreaks them every single time
Maria Ivanovna Shelomova and her jewish son thank you for your service, brownoid-san.
all of his jewish oligarch friends also thank you for being so subservient and slavish to rusrael.

>>65261680
b-but Putin !
Stay on topic anon. We were talking about how the rusty old pipes managed to deter two entire carrier strike groups for 4 months.

>>65261674
>y-you're the only one bringing up putin
no, it's pretty obvious that the only reason ziggers are constantly making these threads is that threads directly shilling for russia are now TOO embarrassing to make, every time you're pressured on it you still instantly start delusionally talking about russia as if they're winning, so that explains a lot about why these threads have been so prevalent lately.
>p-pretty please stop talking about russia, w-we don't need to talk about them they're winning ok?

>>65261680
Yet another "b-but what about putin?!" cope post. We can all see you're the only one bringing up Putin, because you're desperately trying to divert the conversation from ZOG's humiliating loss.

>>65261677
>if i repeat it enough
again, not how it works in the real world, snap out of your mantra, brownoid-san.
>>65261684
>NOOOOO I DECIDED THE TOPIC WAS NOT RUSSIAN HUMILIATION, PLEASE STOP I ONLY MADE THIS THREAD TO STOP PEOPLE FROM TALKING ABOUT RUSSIAN HUMILIATION
lol, zigger's mad.

>>65261685
Cope harder. You lost btw. Your diversions won't reverse your loss

>>65261687
>>65261684
see
>>65261639
>r-russia is winning

>>65261499
>y-you managed to fuck up even harder than ziggers

you slipped up zigger.

>z-zog
putin is a jew, this mindbreaks you.

So is this the shitalian or Robert? Faggots all look the same to me.

>>65261685
Ormuz status ?

>>65261691
>Y-YOUR DIVERSIONS
you mean your diversions, you keep making these threads because russian embarrassment is now too great to tackle directly.
>>65261698
the thirdie having a meltdown and spamming these threads? probably a brownoid of some persuasion, usually indian, chilean, something of that persuasion, could be an "ethnic" russian living abroad too.

>>65261698
I was gonna say shitalian but it might actually be both

>>65261690
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/what-is-in-iran-deal-72dj22s35
Cope harder

>>65261706
Two great tastes that apparently taste each other before a droning.

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>>65261696
oof, they really fucked up on this one.
i've seen him profess ziggerish love for russia in other spam threads too, he really couldn't keep it in his pants kek.
strange how contradictory their stances are, can't shut up about le zog but hopelessly in love with jewtin and his jewish cronies.

>>65261696
>using Russia as a very low bar, basically calling them the lowest of the low
>"erm this means you support Russia
You're retarded

>>65261708
yes, yes, you embarrassingly keep spamming the wikipedia page you and your mudslime buddies keep astroturfing, we know, we just don't care.
now go back to your mudpool in nu/pol/ or /int/, you don't belong here.

>>65261696
>>65261705
>>65261715
Divert all you want, you still lost

>>65261719
the level of retardation required to compare losing a few planes while decimating the enemy with damage that will take years to recover to losing basically your entire army and turning a "SMO" into a battle for the survival of your state, that level of retardation basically demands a ziggerbrained individual.

>>65261723
>"It's all lies, we won I swear, the Wikipedia article is lying!"
Coping and seething lmao. You can't even control one strait

>>65261735
Okay, if the US military is so strong, open ONE strait

>>65261723
Ormuz status ? Faggot

>>65261725
>n-no you're diverting
>y-you lost
your mantra's not working, there's no magical purple circles appearing in the air, sorry.

>the wikipedia article that literally any astroturfing muslim can edit is the paraphrased word of god!
you were already outed in one of your previous spam threads as being one of the wikipedia astroturfers desperately trying to change it in iran's favor, your opinion and the wikipedia article are worth nothing lmao.

it's incredible that russian humiliation is so complete that they now have to spam iran threads in a desperate plea to regain some ground in their little propaganda war.

>>65261749
>NOOOOO Wikipedia is wrong, the press is wrong, everybody is wrong the US won in my mind !

Ormuz status ? Answer faggot

>>65261749
>"everyone is lying, we actually won, the 300 billion peace deal was a victory, ignore the fact that the strait is still under their control"

>>65261755
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO ENTERTAIN MY FANTASIES
lol.
so how many ships did you destroy?
how did you "fight" the US out of the straight?
oh, right, that never happened.
just like the us never
>"l-lost to sandals"
because that's not what happened, a shithole waited under a rock and the country that was attacking them didn't have the political stomach to go full eradication mode.
>noooo they totally tried to eradicate us our djinn stopped it!
lol.

again, the funniest part is i'm not even american, and i don't dispute that the whole attack was a retarded idea, but for the barest attempt at tempering your delusions that
>W-WE FOUGHT THEM OFF
>T-THIS IS LITERALLY LE AMERICA'S UKRAINE INVASION
is not how it went down, you immediately go full schizo and demand i must be an american for wounding your delusions so.

>>65261756
>everyone
the handful of mudslimes that make it their mission to astroturf a wikipedia page?
yeah, yeah they are lying, you included.
>we
i'm not an american
>actually won
i never once said this
nobody really won, iran got it's ass beat into next sunday and will be spending years repairing and the US didn't get what it wanted.
>nooooo you're not sucking iranian dick you MUST be american!
lol kankermongool.

>>65261756
>300 billion peace deal
the one that the US wasn't going to be paying for? the one that is now null and void but you keep mentioning anyway?

>>65261771
Ormuz
Status
Now

not a good day to be a brownoid, i guess.
what blew up in russia today?
>>65261785
zigger is mindbroken lel.

>>65261771
>we could've won, we just held back I swear
Oh so we're at this stage of denial now. Maybe you should that astounding power to open up one strait, instead of bombing a girl's school
>how did they take control of the strait
Idk, but they did it again because Israel went monke mode. They seem to be good at it, because the peace deal was made because we had four weeks of oil left according to Trump

>>65261791
Still not posting Ormuz status

>>65261797
still avoiding TZD after coming out as a zigger

>>65261752
I mean, It's kinda relevant given that Trump TACO'd yet another war he didn't need to start.
It's his signature at this point.

>>65261807
No amount of diversion or cope is going to open it, you know that ?

>>65261793
>we
i'm not american, my mentally ill brownoid fren.
>Could've won
yeah
does the US being able to defeat a shithole astonish you or something? i get that you're a contrarian zigger and that you subscribe to the whole "everything but brown shitholes is ZOG" meme, but you'd have to be seriously retarded to think that.
>i swear
i don't have to swear, that's literally what happened.
>w-we're at this stage of denial now
mind you, i'm not an american, literally the barest notion of the fact that the US only deployed it's airforce for a bit and then fucked off and you go completely hysterical
>NOOOO THE US CAN'T DO MORE THAN THAT, IT'S IMPOSSIBRU
listen to yourself talk nigger, you're completely off the wall delusional.

>>65261784
It was going to pay for it via its vassals, but ultimately the US would pay for it, don't be naive what you're saying was a narrative to appease his voters. The problem is that Israel was never going to stop bombing Lebanon, I called it 2 months ago and again last week when this deal had a thread. Noone is putting any real leverage against Israel to stop.

>>65261815
>n-no amount of diversion and cope
that's only coming from you, zigger.

>>65261820
>vassals
>b-but ultimately the US would pay for it
no, they wouldn't.
the US doesn't have vassals, that's not how it works, you're a brownoid with a slave/master dichotomy brain so i understand this is confusing for you.
>noooooo, nooooooo why won't you just play aloooong with my delusions, you MUST be american for not going along with my delusions
sorry bro, i get that reality is hard for you guys, which is why you constantly imagine shit like djinn and jewish spy animals, but it really is that simple, iran exists because the US didn't want to do a ground invasion, it's literally that simple.

>>65261830
i've completely mindbroken the zigger, he's stuck in an irreversible loop lmao.

>>65261835
Yes. I'm staying on topic since you seem to have trouble with the reality that the mighty US has been unable to open a straight for well over 4 months now.

>>65261841
>nooo stop talking about russia, pls i made this thread as a diversion this isn't fair >:(
absolutely mindbroken.

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>>65261833
>The US doesn't have vassals
You are stupid for sure. It has plenty of vassals.
I'm not brown or Russian either.
I'm not talking about europe, though some parties within europe could be mistaken, I am talking middle eastern dictatorships.

Trump knew 300billion would be unpalitable, thus he promised the gulf states aid equivalent to 300billion, and he gets to go home and make his base happy for 2 years.
Iran exists because there was no political will for ground invasion. This is by definition a weakness.

>>65261779
Yeah that's right, everyone is against you, only you know the REAL truth about who won the war.
>>65261818
Okay then do it. Open the strait. We're all waiting and watching. Put your money where your mouth is
>if you don't support pointless middle eastern wars you're not White!
Take your /pol/ psyops back to /pol/

>>65252351
I'm all for a huge defense budget, but if it's getting to the point where we're just throwing good money after bad, what's the point?
If the US could at best stalemate the Houthis, and can't beat Iran, then what's the point of spending all of this money ($1 trillion, soon to be $1.5) on the military?
If the US can't effective force project and impose its will on minor powers that spend 1/20th on defense, then clearly, the rules of war have shifted so much that maybe the US should just give up on offense and focus on defense?
For example, we have all of this critical infrastructure completely undefended.

>>65261843
>diverts the thread to something completely different
>"anon you're clearly going off topic"
>"NOOO YOU'RE THE ONE COPING AHHHH"

>>65261865
I suspect a lot of that money either goes into personal pockets, black projects, and wildly inflated prices from the Military Industrial complex

so let's unpack this vicious cycle:
>US: invades sandy shithole, sometimes with troops, sometimes literally just airstrikes them
>US goals: require more expansive methods than the US is willing to employ, never reaches them
>afghanistan: US absolutely styles on every inch of tali resistance, doesn't matter because the US isn't willing to expand the conflict into pakistan where all their training centers are, which keep replenishing their numbers in afghanistan
>US occupies completely unopposed for 20 years with a token force
>decides it's not worth it anymore and is a waste of money, leaves
>problem persists
>brownoid interpretation of events:
>MIGHTY SAND WARRIORS COMPLETELY DESTROYED US FORCES AND DESTROYED THEM COMPLETELY, AMERICANS WERE FORCED TO RUN, EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN POSITION DURING THE 20 YEARS THEY OCCUPIED US WAS COMPLETELY OVERRUN AND MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DIED! EVERY TANK WAS BLOWN UP, ALL US JETS SHOT OUT OF THE AIR!
>someone reminds them this is not what happened
>S-STUPID ZOG, YOU MUST BE AN AMERICAN, YOU LOST YOU LOST YOU LOST YOU LOST
>but i'm not an american
>NOOO YOU LOST YOU LOST YOU LOST SANDALS BEAT YOU, THIS NEW WEAPON IN THIS THREAD ACTUALLY DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE SANDALS BEAT YOU SANDALS BEAT YOU SANDALS BEAT YOU
>but this weapon does work tho, in this sandshitholewar it killed thousands of brownoids
>Y-YEAH BUT YOU WERE FORCED TO LEAVE YOU WOULDN'T KILL ALL OF THEM SO SANDALSBEATYOUSANDALSBEATYOUSANDALSBEATYOU, THEREFORE WEAPON DOESN'T WORK AND CAN'T KILL ANYTHING ACTUALLY
repeat for every sandy incursion the US has ever made up til now.

my problem isn't even that you dislike the US, my problem is that you go to a board full of white people to grind your teeth that your fantasy version of how things played out is ignored or laughed at. and you then proceed to lie and make up bullshit about weapons and tactics on the weapon board, even though you're not from here, because their effectiveness contradicts this brownoid version of events.

>>65261853
>n-no you're seething, n-not me
i'm still on my board, you are coming here because my opinion is that important to you, lmao. if you weren't seething, you wouldn't be coming to my board as a tourist, specifically to seethe at me.

>>65252695
Silence leftist taufag

>>65261873
The MIC needs to ultimately deliver the goods to justify itself, so the American people look the other way at the fraud and abuse.
And to its credit, it historically has.
But now it looks like technology has progressed in ways that have leveled the playing field so that even a minor power, investing in the right areas, can deny freedom of navigation or control of the skies.
Americans are eventually going to wonder, what's the point of eleven carrier battle groups if even one can't sail through the Strait of Hormuz and Persian Gulf with impunity?

>>65261922
They denied freedom of navigation to a strait, not the ocean. And as for control of the skies, they couldn't even contest that at all.

>>65256718
Decreased global dependence on Hormuz and greater dependence on the US. Destruction of Iran's military, key government officials, and their nuclear programs.

>>65261922
>if one can't sail throught the straight of hormuz and persion gulf with impunity
good example of >>65261903
>b-because the US wasn't willing to invade iran and thus lost
>drones can now magically stop US military ships from passing through the straight, even though they did so multiple times throughout the war and never got hit by any drones
this is what i mean, what's the point of trying to engage in good faith with someone who makes up bullshit about weaponry on the basis of
>yeah but the US lost politically though, therefore [delusion about the effectiveness of drones here]
there is no dreadnought moment, sorry, i know you want one, it just doesn't exist.
none of those drones stopped those carriers from bombing the shit out of iran, your entire framework of reality doesn't hold up to even the barest scrutiny but i'm the ZOG for pointing that out.

>>65261903
>>65261903
Again with the "Only White people support useless Middle eastern wars" psyop
gb2/pol/

>>65261666
And you will surely get a pony too. Die disappointed, thirdie.

>>65261922
>Americans are eventually going to wonder, what's the point of eleven carrier battle groups if even one can't sail through the Strait of Hormuz and Persian Gulf with impunity?
That's the million dollar question that none of the shills here can answer. All the posturing is useless when we can see they can't control one strait after several months

>>65261903
>>65261947
>destroys economy
>has four weeks of oil left
>president is constantly begging for negotiations
>"we're winning I swear!"

>>65261973
>destroys economy
it didn't do that
>we're winning i swear
i'm not an american
you are completely mindbroken
literally the barest mention of reality sends you completely spinning.

stop crying like a little bitch that your dronenigger threads get mocked relentlessly, there is no dreadnought moment, your drones would not have saved you in the event that the US actually sent troops in to occupy iran. you should not be a part of any discussion involving the effectiveness of weapons, this is not your board, you are a tourist, you don't belong here, you need to go back to your shithole. nu/pol/ or /int/ it really doesn't matter, go be with your people.

>>65261985
More cope
"We could've won we swear! And there certainly is no negative effects"
Gas is the highest I've ever seen in my life

>>65261997
>m-more cope
>n-no u
lol
>we
i'm not an american, brownoid-san, you seem to have problems understanding this, with your digger wasp brain.
ik kom uit een wit land, ik wil over wapens praten, jij hoort hier niet thuis, ga terug naar je modderhut.
>a-america couldn't have won
so those hundreds of thousands of troops and additional air and naval assets they have don't exist then? we just have to pretend that all the things they could have done wouldn't work because... it would hurt your feelings or something?

it's weird how your people have this obsession with winning for political reasons not being enough for you, you have to then go
>u-uhh no actually w-we totally shot down their whole airforce, s-so actually jets are useless now, everything is shitty thirdie drones now
>a-and the troops would have totally been beaten even though they actually sent those

literally who are you trying to fool brownoid? you're going into psychosis.

>>65262014
So then, what are you, if not American?
>we're stronk, we have all these troops and assets
Damn, maybe you should use those to open up the strait then. Like I said earlier, we're waiting and watching. Prove what you say.

>>65262051
>NOOOO YOU AREN'T LINING UP WITH MY DELUSIONS I CAN'T PUT YOU IN A BOX, Y-Y-Y-YOU MUST BE AMERICAN
literally the only thing i do is remind you of technical realities and about the actual effectiveness of different weapons in reality and you go completely fucking off the walls ballistic in every conversation and demand the person reminding you of these things is a jew or an american.
you're not here to talk about weapons, you're here because you are a brown person from a brown board who wants to feel vindication and is getting angry that nobody on this board gives a shit about him and wants him to fuck off back to his shithole.
>we
TOTAL MINDBREAK
i've never seen a person mindbroken this hard lmao

je bent een domme kankermongool, je zal nooit wit zijn.
>we're watching
you're all alone though, it's literally just you making these threads, nobody else is this obsessed, save for other ziggers.

>>65262096
>calls people thirdies and browns
>refuses to say where they're from.
Lmao. Project much
No amount of shilling will change the fact that the strait is still not open. If America truly has all the power you say, then they should actually use it. Prove what you're saying

>>65262122
The only US interest in the conflict is preventing Iran getting a nuke, and Iran still has no nuke.

>>65262130
Yeah I'm sure the war inflation was completely coincidental

>>65262134
Have you looked at Iran's inflation?

>>65262107
>refuses to say where they're from
i know you only speak arabic and one white person language (english) but i actually already gave you everything you need to know where i'm from, you're just a complete and utter fucking retard and can't read lol.


je bent een kankermongool, je zal nooit wit zijn, ga terug naar je schijtbord neger.
>no amount of shilling
i'm not shilling anything, you are coming to my board and seething and shilling on my board, you do not belong here, it is literally that simple.

>then they should actually use it
no? what fucking retarded logic is that, if there isn't the political will to do it and the US doesn't want to do it, they won't do it.
they could have stayed for another 20 years in afghanistan too, they could have also expanded the conflict into pakistan with the rammifications that would bring, or are you gonna go
>n-no, t-they can't do that, t-the t-taliban w-were actually just about finished killing every single american in afghanistan
again, you are a mindfucked, demoralized brownoid who invokes "le zog" on everything to justify your complete and utter disconnect with reality, i genuinely don't give a fuck what your opinion on the US is, i care about reality, and you keep trying to twist it by going
>oh the US chose not to do this thing? noooooo it's actually because the US ground forces don't exist, they just magically went poof because i said so
you sound completely unhinged, genuinely who touched you in the wrong place to make you this ridiculously mad? you really gotta stop seething so hard.

>>65262122
strange, the people spamming this sound exactly the same as the angry ziggers spamming the exact same thing about ukraine.
interesting how the brown people shilling for russia use the exact same vernacular and writing style as the people shilling for iran.
almost as if they're the same or something.
whoops, there i go noticing things again.

>achmad
kek
say hi to the camels for me, achmad.

>>65262142
Oh so you're Europoor Dutch. Does your government know you're using slurs? Pretty risky if you ask me!
>on my board
Lol who the hell are you?
>they just needed more time!
Lol, lmao even. It's been several months. How long is it going to take? Are you waiting for wunderwaffe?
>(irrationally upset about the term ZOG)
Hmmmmm
>you sound completely unhinged, genuinely who touched you in the wrong place to make you this ridiculously mad? you really gotta stop seething so hard.
I'm not the one making several paragraphs of cope. But hey, give it several more months and the loss of oil reserves, and MAYBE the oh-so mighty US military can open ONE strait.

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>>65262167
>e-europoor
a brownoid calling me a europoor is the funniest shit i've ever fucking heard holy shit.
i might need a minute for that one, pffff hahahahahaha.
>w-who the hell are you
whiter than you, now go back to your shithole
>they just needed more time
no, i didn't say that, again, you're a fucking retard and you can't read truly embarrassing the level of retardation you brownoids fall to.
i said >>65262142
>no? what fucking retarded logic is that, if there isn't the political will to do it and the US doesn't want to do it, they won't do it.
>upset about the term ZOG
you are a mindfucked contrarian and you literally shill for dictatorships that intentionally hunt and kill civvies, your hatred for white people is evident. everything that's not a brown shithole is "le zog" for you, as i've said
>hmmmmm
>NOOOO YOU MUST BE A JEW YOU MUST BE A ZOG
>why
>b-b-because you hurt my fictional narrative that i invented inside my head!
you're such a sensitive little faggot lmao, you need to go back to your shitholer board.
>nooo i don't know how to write, t-that's a good thing actually stop laughing at me!
lol.

>>65262182
watch out anon, achmad rachmani is now going to try really hard to sound smug at you, you brought this on yourself.

>>65262182
More coping and baseless accusations from a third party that doesn't even have skin in the game. I'm American, so I have more authority than you to speak on this. Plus I'm white too, dumbass
>you literally shill for dictatorships that intentionally hunt and kill civvies
I know a country in the middle east that does that...

Is the strait open, yes or no?

The one question that makes shills mad
>strait status?
They can't answer the simple question!

>>65262209
>n-no
that's the best you could do?
i accept your concession
>i-i'm actually american suddenly
you're a mindfucked contrarian retard and a brownoid lol.
>i-i'm white
lol

stay out of weapons conversations and go back to nu/pol/

>Damn, maybe you should use those to open up the strait then.
>YOU
not sending their best, these brownoids.

>>65262222
kek, checked.

>>65262213
>shills
who am i shilling for?
i am mocking you for going
>e-everything is drones now because the US chose for political reasons not to do a full on invasion of a country
what's so hard to understand about that? you're too retarded to engage in weapons related discussion, if you want to screech about ZOG, go do it on nu/pol/.

>>65261969
>>65261922
>>65261865
Part of the reason why we spend all of this money, theoretically, is that we don't ever want to be bullied or pushed around.
Yet here we are having a Wilsonian "Fourteen Points" (literally; has no one around Trump read a history book?) dictated to us by a foreign power--signed in Versailles, no less!
Cut the number of carrier groups in half, harden domestic critical infrastructure against UAV attacks, and boost domestic manufacturing (this war has shown quantity trumps quality, and our gutted manufacturing base is a threat to national security)

>>65262213
>>65262230
NTA, but it's a false dichotomy to pretend invasion is the only alternative.
The US could, in theory, just keep bombing military (and maybe economic) targets throughout Iran while blockading the Strait to compel them to come to better terms--but the problem is US munition stockpiles are so thoroughly depleted that that's no longer a realistic option.

>>65262241
that’s not the fault of the military, that’s the fault of trump retardedly expecting a regime change from a few airstrikes and not committing to an invasion.
>hurr dure drones make carriers obsolete
Is the most retarded conclusion one could possibly draw from that.
>this war has shown quantity trumps quality
wrong again, this war has shown that if you don’t invade a country then you can’t actually win the war.
Seriously why are you guys constantly trying to twist and manipulate the end of every sentence into
>and that’s why le shitty brownoid drone spam is the end all be all of warfare
It isn’t, if the US chose to invade iran, they would win, it’s literally that simple.

>>65262259
I'm not convinced a blockade with a continued "shock and awe" campaign wouldn't at least compel the IRGC to relent on some of their demands.
But the US can't and won't do that because it's too dangerously depleted of munitions and can't manufacture replacements quickly enough, and even if it has affordable, sustainable counter measures for drone spam, ballistic missiles are still to expensive to reliably intercept.

>The IRGC are who we thought they were! Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ass! But they are who we thought they were! And we let 'em off the hook

>>65262278
>I'm not convinced a blockade with a continued "shock and awe" campaign wouldn't at least compel the IRGC to relent on some of their demands.
I am. Air power alone has NEVER achieved what you describe even ONCE in history. The words you're writing are exactly what air power theorists wrote before WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Serbia, Afghanistan, Yemen and now Iran. Wrong every time. "Bombing them will bring them to the table and have them agree to our demands." And yet it never does. Bombing does not break the will of states - it doesn't even break the will of troops in the absence of ground forces threatening personal and direct violence. The only time they were right in living memory was in GWI when they didn't say or believe that air power would break the Iraqi state alone, and decisive ground manouevre would be needed to force the withdrawal od Iraqi forces from Kuwait, and GWII when occupation and regime change was planned from the start.

This fantasy about air power needs to be called out more clearly for what it is and how long its history is.

>>65262259
>>hurr dure drones make carriers obsolete
>Is the most retarded conclusion one could possibly draw from that
We don't need eleven carrier groups anymore; the US Navy has shown that drone swarms, cheap ballistic missiles, new anti-ship missiles, and MANPADs mean that the US Navy can't ensure freedom of navigation of littoral waterways like it used to, and its mission (and funding) should be scaled back.
We have far too much critical infrastructure in the US with at most a chain-link fence protecting it.

>>65262309
The USN has outperformed the USAF in this war by a wide margin, so it's very odd that you would say that the USN is both unfit for purpose and should be defunded, but omit the force that is both better funded and less effective from your critique of the mismatch between the US' strategic goals and their capabilities. Remember: USAF aircraft shot down, USAF airbases struck, USAF radars destroyed. Not USN ones.

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>>65262309
>ballistic missiles
Not this shit again

>>65262314
Carriers did remain totally untouchable for the entire conflict, so if anything the lesson is that the carrier meta is stronger than ever before

>>65262309
>freedom of navigation
Holy shit you’re a fucking dumbass
“Freedom of navigation” doesn’t mean
>we can stop insurance companies from becoming scared
It means
>we can sail our military vessels around with impunity
Which the US did, iran was completely impotent to stop it.

>Freedom of navigation is a principle of law of the sea that ships flying the flag of any sovereign state should not suffer interference from other states when in international waters
>In the realm of international law, it has been defined as “freedom of movement for vessels, freedom to enter ports and to make use of plant and docks, to load and unload goods and to transport goods and passengers". This right is now also codified as Article 87(1)a of the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.