If the gunners are smart they will shoot to miss so the drone pilots aim for the transports and don't shift focus to them.

>>65254595
What are they going to do against low flying drones?

>>65254614
Explode?

>>65254614
Shoot the tanker trucks ofc

It's the battle of the Atlantic all over again.

>>65254595
this looks way more legit than the one with the cgi RWS and antennae on the cab

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Take out the first tanker and the rest become sitting ducks. The maritime strategy doesn't really transfer to land because ships don't need roads.

>>65254682
Worse, at those speeds and that little spacing, hitting the lead vehicle turns the entire convoy into a high speed, highly volatile pile-up collision.

On a side note, who's driving the tanker trucks? Surely they don't have civvies behind the wheel, right? ...Right?

>>65254711
Why not? They're civilian fuel trucks after all

>>65254735
No way.It's already hard to hit a small fast moving drone while stationary. They would need something to actually track them.

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>>65254595
well, it worked for Imortan Joe

>>65254735
Why would you come on the internet and just tell lies like that?

>>65254754
Did it?

>>65254749
>>65254761
What's the status of the convoy shown in the video?
Why are there less videos of mid range logistics recently?

>>65254735
>putting all our eggs into this one basket seems to have paid off as they're much harder to detect than they would be if we split them into multiple baskets

>>65254770
The reasoning for convoys is the same one for convoys used in ww2, you can concentrate defense assets to protect the convoy, dispersion in the era of drones is not always the answer.

One thing is certain : hitting those civilian trucks with their civilian drivers in cowardly fashion with drones would be a demonic warcrime.

Aren't they regular civilian tankers? A quad copter with a grenade could take one out. I don't see how putting a lot of them near each other helps.

>>65254735
The drones are effective Russia feels the need to have armed convoys.

>>65254787
Of course, they forced a response so they impose a cost of some kind, but how meaningful will it be?

>>65254796
Seeing the responce is 2 MGs on a mount in the back of a moving truck with ~270 degrees of fire I think the responce will be largely ineffective.
As for the overall effect I think even hitting 10% of total logi to half the front would be devestating.

>>65254595
I was hoping to see a drone....

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crane status?

>>65254614
They will be the cameramen giving us BDA heh

>>65254825
That is extremely unlucky, those drones just fly between GPS waypoints and the crane just so happened to be in the way.

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>>65254595
Once again, we send off my War Rig to bring back guzzolene from Belgorod and bullets from the Pyongyang. Once again, I salute my Minister of Defense Shoigu, and I salute my meatwave Mobiks, who will feast with me eternal on the highways of Banan

>>65254825
These have shaped charges or something?

>>65254849
No, just 200kg of bang vs mild steel.

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>>65254856
They do have shaped charges or atleast they include explosively formed penetrators. You kind of need those to penetrate any metal or concrete structure.

>>65254884
Source? I haven't heard anything about medium range drones with EFPs and would love to read more.
If they did it might be an option for bridge supports.

>>65254884
Is that AI? The letters on the doormat seem somewhat misshapen.

>There is a video of unexploded trucks and I personally haven't seen as many videos of exploded trucks today, it's over russia won
Why are ziggers like this

>>65254897
no it's real anon, secret hohol superweapon, codename Perfidia

>>65254595
hear me up, i would put a piece of coal between the butt cheeks of those drivers, because by the time they arrive to their destination it will turn into a diamond.
now, there's a chance they don't make it, but what did i lose in that case? a piece of coal?

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>>65254896
Look at the crane video and try to pause it at 0:06, right at the explosion (see pic related). You see a jet characteristic of shaped charged/EFP-s, although the distinction is characteristic. Its honestly way too easy to just add concave copper shapes to your warhead to improve results for drone explosion, shaheds had multiples of these like 2-3 years ago.

>>65254825
>crane status?
Surprisingly good for eating 100+ kg HE
An anon in another thread pointed out that the energy easily flows around the bars

>>65255116
>An anon in another thread pointed out that the energy easily flows around the bars
well can't the make the refineries out of those then? are ziggers retarded?

>>65255147
>can't the make the refineries out of those then?
They make the cope cages out of them!

>>65254840
>those drones just fly between GPS waypoints
is gps even still a thing? ive heard its widely jammed over any conflict zone.

>>65255287
Jammers have very limited range, they are effective if they are close to the target but if you just put them on the flight path the drone will lose signal and just hold it's current heading until it reconnects.

>>65255116
But would you lift 20 tons all day in it after that?

Just curious, is filming your absolutely crucial supply convoy travelling and posting it online good opsec?

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>>65255327
what's the worst that could happen

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>>65255342
The guy who filmed this was captured and charged with treason.
I've seen his testimony posted on 2ch

>>65254825
Erect as a deceitful hohol penis

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>>65254595
Well, well, well ...

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>>65254773
>defense assets
in this case are just bunch of grunts with rifles inside fast moving vehicle, they ain't hitting shit
This convoy wasn't hit jsut becouse it wasn't noticed

>>65254896
also there's video from refinery attack where drone exploded a few meters over the piping, but EFP went off and still reached the target

>>65255315
>But would you lift 20 tons all day in it after that?
You'd certainly want to inspect it but at least damage would be repairable, if it collapsed then it would likely be a write-off.

>>65254735
>ukies are bombing Moscow by air, a feat unthinkable by ANYONE only 4 years ago and the first time since WW2
>BBBBbbbut but the mid range attack
C-O-P-E

>>65254845
Wasn't shoigu fired months ago?

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>>65254595
I'm too used to seeing shit explode when someone mentions vatniks and drones

>>65254711
>Surely they don't have civvies behind the wheel, right? ...Right?
There was a ziggergram post that they are indeed civvy drivers being paid the princely sum of 200 Roubles (bout a buck fiddy US) per trip

>>65256579
Why the fuck would you do something with such a high chance of death for one dollar and fifty cents?

>>65256594
>Why the fuck would you do something with such a high chance of death for one dollar and fifty cents?
Guess why they have trouble finding drivers?

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>>65254840
I've seen something like three different cranes get hit, which seems like too many for it to just be bad luck. I have to wonder if those drones have some form of image recognition guidance for the final attack run and cranes have just similar enough of a visual profile to get misidentified as a refinery cracking tower

>>65254735
Well Ukraine doesn't have drones over the highway 24/7, so minimizing the time fuel trucks are actually on it is a legit strategy.
Until they inevitably end up running into a drone that is.

>>65256594
One side of it is poverty-driven desperation
The other is, if you deny the mighty second army in the world and it's demands, it will be sent into a crying fit, which then sees you getting a hefty charge for discrediting the army. The only way to get a parole? Ensigning to drive that same fuel truck, except now you have to do it >for free and your chances of dying got bumped from very high (90-something) to guaranteed (146%) since if you weren't completely expendable before, you sure as fuck is now

>>65256601
Most likely answer is that the drones were on a fire-and-forget trajectory and those cranes just happened to be in the way

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>>65256615
They've used drones in the past that drop the equivalent of spike strip or caltrops on the highway
Then the feast begins

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>>65254595
No very since they're stealing gas from one another now

>>65254682
>The maritime strategy doesn't really transfer to land because ships don't need roads.
Fucking military CIA level intelligence riht there!

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>>65254753
Legit.

>>65256635
They should steal it straight out of the pipelines like in Mexico.

>>65254595
>Lead vehicle gets droned
>The flaming wreckage gets rear ended by 5 fuel trucks because they're driving 20m from each other on a highway
GG

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>>65256797
Would five fuel trucks burning in none place be enough to melt the asphalt and fuck up the highway?

>>65256594
>>65256596
>>65256621
It's not 200 rubles. It was 100k and now it's 300k (from about 1k to 3k euros).
https://24tv.ua/ru/toplivnyj-krizis-rossii-jeto-vlijajut-udary-vsu-po-logistike_n3088722

>>65254896
Iirc at least gerans/sneeds have EFPs. I would guess the ukie ones do too, as it makes it much more versatile at practically no cost to fragmentation in their case

>>65256601
Possible but unlikely, you want them to dive and hit a a cracking tower low to maximize damage but the ones that hit cranes never change altitude.

>>65256633
>They've used drones in the past that drop the equivalent of spike strip or caltrops on the highway
Got a video?

>>65255287
>>65255309
This got me thinking, why don't they put some home-on-jam magic on them? Puccian EW is one of the few things that has been performing well during this shitfest, and these systems are quite expensive. Surely having drones go for them if they get jammed would be worth it no?

>>65254614
Funny things :)

>>65256910
An old one-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oum_t7dyLHs
The main info starts around 7:30 after some waffling, it didn't detail the mechanism but it does talk about the people who make it and so on

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someone got lucky today

>>65254595
very considerate of the Russians to cluster all their high value targets together like that, makes things so much easier for the drone operators once they are found

>>65254735
>Brosint
Copelord what are you doing here? Don't you have to be a bald and wrong somewhere else, I thought you were on a break? Besides, convoys are much larger and easier to focus on than individual trucks, so even if it's currently effective, how long is that going to last before tactics change?

>>65256804
>Melting point of bitumen
~200C
>temperature of a fuel fire
~1100C
you do the maths

>>65257277
OUT FUCKING SKILLED
I hope that specific truck driver survives the war, he deserves to live for that

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>>65257307
>I hope that specific truck driver survives the war
The pilot was clearly in control, since they dodged the civilian car.
They may have just come around for another shot from behind.

>>65257307
If he doesn't quit after this then he deserves to die desu

>>65257424
He won't be allowed to quit.

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>>65254749
>fast
sorry no tracking system as reliable as the good ol mk1 eyeball

>>65257103
That gets expensive fast because you need a guidance system that won't just fly into trees because the emitter is behind them. Unlike radar jammers don't need uninterupted line of sight.
The counter is also extremely cheap and easy, add a cable from the jammer to the antenna so when the antenna is hit the jammer itself is fine.

We might see something like this eventually but I think it'll have to be more like a drone network combining sensor platforms, visual targeting and man-in-the-loop kill vehicles.
It could be done but it'll take a few years of R&D and several production lines to counter an inconvenience.

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>>65257277
they're adapting

>>65257567
Kek at the front passanger
>where is that guy going?

>>65257567
Comrade Ivan sadly doesn't understand that developing a survival instinct is treason

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>>65256804
What do you think.

>>65257594
Where?

>>65257277
WITNESSED

>>65257567
nigga did the fucking action movie roll

>>65257688
>nigga did the fucking action movie roll
And lived because of it

>>65257567
Anyone ID that rifle?
AK10X series?

>>65254825

It seems that the drone did not impact the crane but the lifting hook wires or the hook itself. You can clearly see the wires and the hook in the first seconds, then after the detonation they are gone.

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Update on the mobile teams.

>>65261249
>4+ years into the war
>some retard still decides not just to film it, but to send it to someone and put it on the internet for everyone to see, including Ukrainians who made the attack
I bet his next run with an upsized asshole will be very uncomfortable.

>>65257567
I like how the guy clearly didn't even take the time to shout a warning or anything. He just immediately jumped. I suppose this is a good lesson as to why it's not a good idea to be a dick towards your comrades, lest they pull something like this.

>>65261249
>i hope it wasn't one of ours

does he really think some ukie fuel trucks got lost and ended up in crimea?

>>65257567
>hollywood slow mo roll
>that pixel perfect drone into the roof
pure unrefined kino

>>65261409
>guy jumped out the sunroof
>rifle on the roof
>his job was likely to monitor for and shoot at any incoming drones
>no shell casings on the roof
>no warning to the guys inside
>saw the drone and immediately bailed out

not sure if based or cringe

>>65261420
I think he meant his unit. Obviously it was ruskie.

>>65261409
Anon, there's a non-zero chance the driver was his best friend since kindergarten and the passenger was his brother. They're Russian.