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Why is the US building F-16's for China?: https://www.slashgear.com/2196859/first-f-16-block-70-republic-of-china-fighter-jet-seen-flying-texas/
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>>65257778
because that's the real china, not west-taiwan, which is a fake commie government.
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>>65257778
>More commonly referred to as Taiwan
Do you even read the images you post?
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>>65257778
implessive
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I'm looking at Chinese jets over I-35! How the hell did they get through?!
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>>65257778
China really needs to let Taiwan go. It's such a stupid thing to cause tension and conflict over.
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>>65257892
it's such a dictatorship thing to do too
>wealth and prosperity the likes of which the country hasn't seen in centuries
>stability and improvement in quality of life
>but the supreme leader reaaaaally needs that island so sorry out the window it goes, time to waste a fuckton of money on an amphibious operation that's not going to work.
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>>65257781
okay generalissimo cash-my-cheque. how's your campaign of surrounding communist bandits going? Must be pretty easy beating a bunch of starving peasants that can't arm each man with a gun.
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>>65257892
why? not costing them much to constantly apply pressure. Maybe they get lucky with a cooperative US president that is willing to make a deal with them on Taiwan.
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>>65257778
>delivery to the air force of the Republic of China, more commonly referred to as Taiwan.
Fucking kek
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Fun fact. When my mom visits China on her American passport, there are restrictions and she gets a ton of questions regarding security. When she travels to Taiwan first (using her ROC passport), she can get a "Taiwan Province" travel pass, then fly to China through Hong Kong and travel freely throughout China (including Tibet and Xiangjiang) without question.
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>>65257920
>US president makes a deal to let China take control of a sovereign country
There is no word where this happens and if there is one we are not in it
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>>65257955
>>US president makes a deal to let Iran take control of the Strait of Hormuz on top of giving them 300 billion dollars
>There is no word where this happens and if there is one we are not in it
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>>65257892
They can't because the green areas are China's most important economic zones, and almost all the ports they have, and Taiwan has been a part of China since the dawn of times
For the US is the same as Cuba having Soviet missiles threatening to shut down maritime traffic in the Gulf of Mexico and East Coast every time someone looks at it wrong
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>>65257990
What would happen if Taiwan dediced to pull off a Hormuz on the PRC?
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>>65257908
>okay generalissimo cash-my-cheque. how's your campaign of surrounding communist bandits going? Must be pretty easy beating a bunch of starving peasants that can't arm each man with a gun.

Calm down chinksect
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>>65257999
Taiwan would probably be besieged, if Japan decides to poke its nose then both are likely to get nuked
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>>65258013
>NOOK NOOK
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>>65258019
Considering how much bugmen hate Japan it's almost a guaranteed outcome
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>>65257990
*china has been a part of taiwan since the dawn of times
the fake maoist govt should be removed.
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>>65257999
China would come down hard and fast with a full scale invasion, which is what Trump should've done to Iran. Anything short of a full scale invasion was obviously going to backfire.
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>>65258051
Two more years on a most implessive naval invasion?
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>>65258069
I'd say a year
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>>65257778
>>65257922
those f-16 are actually morocco's f-16, they ordered them in 2019 lmao but americans scammed them by giving them to taiwan instead

morocco will get theirs in 2029
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>>65258088
brown people are less important than asian people.
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>>65257892
what conflict
it's a done deal just pay off the taiwanese politicians and a peaceful reunification with fanfare a few years down the line
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>>65257892
China's entire existence lives and dies on the coast, any threat no matter how small, is still like a knife at their throat.
>now drag it across
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>>65258352
the fact you think the taiwanese can just be paid off but not the communists is honestly retarded.
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>>65258352
>it's a done deal just pay off the taiwanese politicians
Taiwan is currently watching China renege on every promise made to Hong Kong regarding their guaranteed fifty years of autonomy. This and the constant (daily) military threats are currently galvanizing the country against Chinese reunification.
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>>65258034
Japan has tanked it before they can do it again and it will be a fury the world has never seen before.

>>65258670
Yeah it’s not exactly a shocker Taiwan feels the need to become a porcupine.
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>>65258051
I for one would love to see them try
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>Why is the US building F-16's for China?
Is selling military goods to your allies somehow strange?
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>>65257990
>Taiwan has been a part of China since the dawn of times
Mangkuk hayun and kepala hotak hang! Taiwan and southern China were the original home of Austronesians. It was given to us by God 5000 years ago and the Han Chinese stole it. We we reclaim it as our birthright.
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>>65257778
awwww it looks so happy
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>>65258352
I visited Taiwan recently and had two (mainland) Chinese roommates for a year in undergrad. I don't think peaceful reunification will ever be on the table, because they are too culturally diverged by now. The mainland Chinese do not operate the way Westerners or even most non-Westerners do; de-individualization and groupthink are more powerful than we can comprehend. Chinese culture has eroded on the mainland, instead becoming some kind of industrial Maoist abomination that is obsessed with things like American basketball and homoerotic gacha games. I was honestly really surprised by how different the Taiwanese are. They retain much more individuality and conduct their lives like what we consider normal. Traditional Chinese culture is also a lot stronger there compared to the mainland. Basically, I don't think reunification would ever be on the table even with all the bribes in the world, because it'd be like Germany trying to buy out the government of France.
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>>65259521
The Chinese honestly sound kind of creepy.
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>>65257892
China has a very particular brand of longtime autism where they're obsessed with the concept of 'unity'. The First Emperor 'united' China by beating the shit out of his neighbours and erasing their cultures. Ever since, it's been a long line of assholes vying for All Of China to be under one throne. The idea of a culturally Chinese nation that exists outside of the jurisdiction of the central throne is abhorrent to them.
This is why they threaten war at the prospect of Taiwan renouncing their claim on the mainland. To the throne, this would be a declaration of Not Being Chinese, and they can't have that. They'd genuinely rather have a frozen civil war for a century than let go of one little island, one that pre-communist China never cared much for, and one that Communist China has never owned.
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>>65259550
Not to out myself as a gachafag, but this particular cultural hang-up can be directly observed in Arknights: Endfield. In Arknights, every nation serves a direct analogue to one of our own world, typically with influences stretching across multiple time periods. In this case, Yan is China, a mix of its Imperial era and its modern industrialised self.
Now, in Endfield everyone is on a different planet, cut off from their homeworld for about 150 years now. Every colony has by necessity grown to be independent of their original nations... except for the Hongshan Academy of Sciences, Yan's scientific expedition. Because it would be Politically Inconvenient IRL for a culturally Chinese region to exist outside of the central authority, the HAS refuses to acknowledge itself as a separate entity from Great Yan. They still use the same logo and the same bureaucracy, and they even continuously compile reports to be sent back to the Great Archive back home when communications are restored (they've never being restored). As far as they're concerned, they're just a somewhat isolated province of Yan, not a new nation on a new world.
Literally nobody else does this shit.
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>>65258013
>if Japan decides to poke its nose then both are likely to get nuked
lol lmao even

>>65258050
>*china has been a part of taiwan since the dawn of times
not remotely true
It's more Dutch than Han, at least they set up a government there for a few hundred years. The best the Ming could do (the only dynasty with any real presence there) is to give a title to the local ruler.
The Japanese and Dutch made actual colonies with governors who improved the place and created infrastructure. Even the Spanish got into the act a little.

These days, the population is more genetically Hokien/Haka than Han and more culturally Japanese than Chinese.

Most importantly of course, they just don't want to be commies and who can blame them?
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>>65259224
>Mangkuk hayun and kepala hotak hang!
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>>65259540
Mao killed anybody with integrity and infected 5000 pubescent girls with Syph - by way of trying to get rid of it.
Don't get me wrong I respect and would never underestimate ANY Han Chinese - but I hate the Commies and embrace the Good Guys. My best friend in grade school was an Army brat and was born on Formosa.
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>>65259550
Makes sense to me, imagine if the Confederates retreated to Texas or something and never surrendered, you can bet we will never hear the end of it.
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>>65257970
>irgc shill is also a chinkshill
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>>65257892
Genuinely and completely unironically there is no conflict. Taiwan and China cooperate economically very heavily, the markets are completely interwoven, and there is exactly 0 chances for any war started by them because it would just be completely retarded economically for either of them.
Now, China still can’t just acknowledge Taiwan’s governments independence politically, but it’s nothing more than posturing. Americans love to blow it out of proportion and pretend that there will be a war any second now, but that’s nothing new.
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>>65257778
Could the chinks pull off Operation Causeway? The current number of Taiwanese troops are very similar to the amount of Japanese troops stationed in Taiwan back in 1945. The US chose to invade Taiwan from the south taking over Tainan and Kaohsiung
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>>65257892
Well seeing how trump changed the US stance to "oppose taiwan independence", I think china is making more progress right now in this matter than ever before
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>>65261205
Trump is temporary, Xi is forever.
I’ll let you decide if that’s good or not.
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>>65261211
It’s to die for.
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>>65257990
>Taiwan has been a part of China since the dawn of times

You do realize the Dutch colonized it before China, right?



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