Does China have better military technology at this point than Russia?
>>65265273can't be determined
The DPRK has better military technology than russia at this point. I am not Norktard, the US will never ally with the Norks.
There is no proof that china has actually started producing advance jet engines.
>>65265288>I am not Norktard
I'd honestly wager that the chinks have better tech than the snow nigerians, but the puccians would still kick their fucking teeth in as the bugs have no actual combat experience in the past 70 years other than running away from african sandniggers and having stickfights with jeets over a fence.
>>65265317Norktard is too proud of being a /k/ microcelebrity to stop tripfagging
>>65265273They don't paint their Frontline jets like clowncars for starters so yes. they're a trillion heads ahead of them in anything that requires technology made in the 21st century as well
>>65265307Neither has Russia.
>>65265273In some cases, yes, but not in every. Mostly in electronics and radar.I would much rather "play as" China than Russia though for a variety of reasons.
>>65265366He's a macronuisance
>>65265273They have for the last decade.
>>65265321I'd say they MIGHT have beat them had they invaded China instead in 2022 but at this point if Russia pulled out of Ukraine immediately, rebuilt for 4 or 5 years and invaded China they would get beat.I also would bet money a conflict that would go nuclear.
>>65265321Nah. The chinks would suffer decent losses in the process due to a lack of high quality stealth airframes, but I do think they could SEAD/DEAD the already degraded Russian ADN and then they get to really LARP as the USAF like they already try to do.
>>65265273>better than RussiaBetter than the US
>>65265321I would say Russia has net negative experience at this point
>>65265321king they ran out of logistics capacity from the belarus border to kyiv, its like a two hour drive
>>65265273Their unwillingness to actually go to war makes me think not. Attack somebody, anybody, it doesn't fucking matter. Isn't it about time Afghanistan was invaded again.
>>65266000Is this meant to be impressive?
>>65266000Digits wasted on lies.
>>65266186>hmm yeah not at all suspicious that China keeps making a new TOTALLY REAL GUYS wunderwaffe every few years after people stop talking about and forget about their last oneRemember the "laser AK"?
>>65266000give it twenty years, we might have just finished fucking DARPA enough to give them a chance
>>65265273
This is why you don't tolerate chinkshills on this board. The moment they realize a thread is getting traction they immediately start spamming.
>>65266281>be mad at the truth
>>65266276Temu/Ali express Battle walkers when?
>>65266286>the truth>the post immediately above that one is a 3D rendering of a wage cage on stiltsimplessive, china could take on the mighty army of OSHA with this
>>65266276Discovered technology known to the west for like 30 years now award
>>65265321>but the puccians would still kick their fucking teeth in as the bugs have no actual combat experienceNeither do the Russians, since they only get three days of combat experience before getting cubed. That war would rapidly devolve into meat waves on both sides, and Russia is already running out.
>>65265321There's just no way ziggers could outmanufacture chyna. Pidors only have infinite meatwaves and decent experience with drone warfare on their side, and chinks would have even infiniter cannon fodder and 20x the drones (if no experience how to use them). Barring ooks and idk maybe blowing up three gorges dam there's nothing russia can conceivably do to chinks, theres just too much land, too much industry, too many men.
>>65266092>Better than the US
>>65266311I sense a bit of rage in your post
>>65265273We haven't really seen either in action, but I'd bet that they do, yeah. At least they actually actively produce shit.
>>65265273Chinese technology is superb
>>65266440why do they release one new wunderwaffe every 2 years? wouldn't they start producing them en masse if they were any good?
>>65266441>technological advancement is badspeaks volumes
>>65266443
>>65265273>Does China have better military technology at this point than Russia?Yes and you have to be a retard to ask such obvious questions. Whats more important, unlike Russia they also have a vertically integrated production capability. No need for the chinks to import electronics or whatever.
>>65266441>why do they release one new wunderwaffe every 2 years? wouldn't they start producing them en masse if they were any good?They are mass producing the J-20. The JH-36 and J-50 are the replacements for the J-20 and J-35. They will in turn be replaced by next gen chink jets circa 2035-2040. This is also why Japan will do GCAP all alone if they have to.
>>65266428It is relevant to point out that the third largest stealth/5th gen fleet currently belongs to Australia. Despite supposedly producing the damn things themselves, I don't think Russia even cracks the top ten.They may not have much real-world experience but at least China actually makes the fucking things at a credible scale.
What's the latest battle-tested chink military hardware? The radars that did nothing?
>>65266443I cannot wait until they produce something advanced beyond whatever the US has, so the US can then immediately exfil the tech and probably everyone who designed it and generate a clone.The seething generated by Chinese netizens will be nigh unfathomable.It will be one of the most hilariously ironic events in world history.
>>65266163Iran is Chinese proxy.
>>65266694It might've been except the US has lost the capacity to deliver. The F-35 was the last major breakthrough and basically had to be brute-forced into overdesigned effectiveness by throwing infinity money at it. Every innovation since has been a glorified prototype that never went into scalable production.
>>65265998>invade a country with at least 8x the population, 10x the economy, 100x the manufacturing base, that also has nuclear weaponsRussia would have lost everything up to the Urals by year 2, and I say that as an Implessive poster.>>65266092IMPLESSIVEMPLESSIVE
>>65266613
>>65266694It's awfully hard to do that when everything "advanced" is based on a stolen design.>>65266725>every accusation a confessionHow's the J20 and stealth detecting radar going? And the program leads? To shreds you say?
>>65266734No one talks like this, it's like you're trying to sound paid by the DoD. Cringe.
>>65266743>.001 yuan have been deposited in your accountSeethe harder chinksect, you have no rebuttal because it's true.
>>65266734>stolenstolenstolenstolenThey're inventing more than you nowadays, muttoid. Seethe more about it.
>>65266749I take it back, you don't seem paid. You come off more performative, like you're doing a bit.
>>65266752May I see these totally original Chinese inventions?
>>65266752>They're inventingsuch as? outside of some genuine innovations around battery tech they seem to excel at scaling up manufacturing on the cheap but that's about it
>>65265273The best there is
>>65265273It's old shit vs cheap chink shit. I'd say neither.Given all their investment in drone swarms, we might see something in the future, given enough time and assuming the don't cheap out again.At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to overwhelm Taiwan's defenses by saturating them in drone attacks before they try to invade.
>>65266822China has spent a lot of effort converting their old MiG-19 fleet into suicide bomber drones for the sole purpose of saturating Taiwan's AD
>>65266755Fun part is if you scratch the surface of those "chinese" battery tech companies all the work is based on western researcb papers.
>>65265321Honestly, I could see this. On paper, the chinks are very strong but I really do doubt their fighting spirit in the long term. If nothing else, the vatniks have proven to be pure masochists for punishment and I think they can take the chinks into deep waters despite the economic disparity. They wouldn't be occupying chink cities but I think they could make them hurt and sue for peace first. I'm not saying its a surefire guarantee but that it could turn out that way
>>65265288I wish we would.
>>65266580No engines???
>>65266719And lost.
>>65266753Uh oh chink meltdown at the reminder that his new plane is vaporware.
>>65266933Pay up
>>65265321>past 70 years They got the shit kicked out of them by Vietnam in '79
>>65266959You were never getting a cent and now you're getting even more of your shit destroyed, how many more repackaged soijack memes until your Ayatollahs respawn?
>>65265273THEY STOLE FROM US AGAIN
>>65266959Zero dollars and zero cents. Thanks for the oil routes, sucker.
>>65266978>>65266981300 billion USD, in Yuan because the dollar is about as worthy as toilet paper
>>65266985>in Yuan>This means the US will have to purchase, with gold (because the Chinese exclusively and only trade with gold), 300 billion USD worth of Yuan from Beijing's Central Banks, which will then be transferred to Iran's treasury, and from Iran's treasury back to Beijing because they are too incompetent to rebuild their own mud huts. Holy fucking shit I didn't realize this.
>>65266985>>65267000Literally fiction, as in the US was never giving you a cent and you lost even the opportunity to have Iran's neighbors invest in rebuilding like the US did to Japan after WW2.
>>65267033Pay up goy
>>65265273than russia? sure, in certain fields though not all of them.
>>65267038>Angry brownoid seethingi'm gonna drink clean water from a tap now achmad, something you will never be able to do.
>>65267038>>65266985>>65266959holy shitskin meltdown.
>>65265321Using that logic. Did Russia have 'actual combat experience' before getting their teeth kicked by Ukrainians? Or even better did Ukrainians had 'actual combat experience' before the Russian invasion?
>>65267038Keep crying, the answer remains not one penny.
>>65266725>the B-21 doesn't actually exist
>>65265273nosinotech is a lot worse than russiatech and russiatech is garbage
>>65265273China hasn't been in a war since the 60s.They're lower than Euro tier regarding military readiness.Their equipment is probably fine. Chinese manufacturing is literally the world standard. But I doubt they know what to do with it.
>>65267358>60s Meant to type 70s.
>>65267038Khamenei is dead so...
Is there even a doubt?
>>65267649But Iran is getting zero dollars in exchange for no more military, no nukes (and Israeli and US inspections), and no tolls. Every day more mines get removed from the Strait. What are you going to do? Drive more business to American oil refineries? You have no cards, that $300 billion is as real as the AI Djinns. Iran cannot even stop the US extracting pilots from deep inside Iran.
>>65266276reminds me of plankton in his mech>enters the chinkcage>call me chinklet now!!!
>>65267722Yes, while China makes cheap knockoffs that break. Tofu dregs MIC in action.
>>65266743I genuinely don't understand what about that post would make you say that. It's a completely normal post written in American English. Is this a bot response, pulling randomly from a set of preset replies to discredit anyone arguing against glorious chinkistan? Because I really fail to see how a human could have reached this conclusion.
>>65266427i sense a bit of projection in yours, people would still like chinese people if they didn't go out of their way to lie in every corner of the internet, there are consequences to being untrustworthy liars.
>>65265273>braindead unc statusYes, they've been better for 20 years.You were probably too busy laughing at Slavic retards to notice the rest of the world kept progressing.
>>6526893410 years at best, zoomer-san.
>>65265273Yes, it's not even close. You don't even need to look at military equipment, name me a piece of Russian consumer electronics on par with China.>>65265307WS-10C2 is a pretty excellent engine by itself desu, WS-15 is in production with J-20S
>>65269166Actual domestic chinese consumer electronics kind of suck though. Like just look at the Huawei AI GPUs, they're an absolute joke compared to Nvidia, while simultaneously being something like 70% less efficient from a manufacturing standpoint.
>>65269194>Actual domestic chinese consumer electronics kind of suck though.>Like just look at the Huawei AI GPUsThose aren't consumer electronics lol, that's basically industrial hardware, and you picked the one industry they're behind in because they're starting from absolute scratch. Even then their AI models are almost on par because they had to be maximally efficient with compute. In terms of other consumer electronics? They shit out Thermals, Radars, communications devices, phones, radios, screens, literally everything. Fuck, you can buy an AESA radar right now from made-in-china for drone detection right now if you want, Russia can't even put an AESA on the Pantsir.>while simultaneously being something like 70% less efficient from a manufacturing standpointBecause they're still on DUV, even then the thread is about is China more advanced than Russia. China can currently produce 7-5nm chips, Russia literally just established a 130nm fab.
>>65269313This post is written light I've recently received head trauma, I apologise, I started writing it before a game of WARNO, then rewrote parts of it and didn't proof read it.
>>65265273Can retarded vodka monkey engineering disasters be slightly improved?YESDoes it matter?UNITED STATESFuck you op.
>>65265321with...
>>65266276we need to talk about the following...
>>65269362Almost all Russian/Soviet equipment in Chinese service has been sinocised to the point of being entirely different. The J-16 has nothing Russian in it.
>>65265273"Better" is a very subjective term. The Chinese have a few protypes based on what they've stolen from the US, no real production, and good advertising.The Russians have a lot of good enough stuff (quantity has a quality all its own)
>>65269393DJI was also against the weaponization of Its drones, yet here we are...
>>65266897>and I think they can take the chinks into deep watersYOU'RE A DOG AND I' M A SHARK AND I'M TAKING YOU INTO DEEP WATERS
Chinese war materiel hasn't been outside rusting for the last half century so I'd say they have Russia thoroughly beaten
>>65269946>t. frenchman/pajeethttps://youtu.be/aWk2bsIa3EE
>>65269946Assuming they're not full of water instead of fuel anymore.
>>65269555China has 450+ J-20, mass production has switched to J-20A/S now.
>>65271668Legacy J-20s are being upgraded to the new A standard
>>65269555>Chinese>no real production...sorry, there's literally no way you can convince me that you genuinely believe this.
>>65265321>The country that is famous for producing oil and is now running out of fuel is somehow capable of beating China>The country that famously ran out of logistical supplies and had its entire northern army sitting on a 60 mile stretch of Ukrainian highways for days on end is somehow capable of beating China>The country that is now resorting to using refurbished T-54/55s and refurbished T-72Urals/As is somehow capable of beating Chinainteresting
>>65271715yes unironically
Do they have battle tested reports from their clients which has provided necessary feedback to upgrade critical components based on real world use in high stress situations?As far as I am aware the most action their stuff sees is chasing around SEA Coast Guard, participating in half-assed coups and being ambushed by thirdy rebels
>>65271832oh right, there were the pakis with their runs on jeets.So I guess their aircraft must be on-par with russians
>>65265366Wrong
