>managed to defeat 2 of the biggest militaries in the worldWhat's their secret? Is hiding in mountains and caves the perfect military strategy?
>>65265394Generational incels who just happen to reproduce, so 0 respect for outside authority. Why should they?
Never really "won" just kinda didn't lose. The Soviet-Afghan War was just the Soviets pulling out after a while and the GWOT was also just America pulling out after a while. The Afghans didn't invade Washington or Moscow in either war.
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>>65265394>die a lot>your enemies get bored of dominating you>they go away>say you won>enjoy undying admiration of brown teens overseas>still shitting in an outhouse because you're a diseased thirdie with tuberculosis
>>65265394>What's their secret?They worshipped Allah(SWT) alone and did not rely on taghut or dunya laws and ideas. Only Allah(SWT) and his Qadr
>>65265394They hid in an entirely different country and the military wasn't allowed to just go in there and get them.
>>65265394Goodwill of their enemies.
>>65265426This. The concept of "Defeat" and "Victory" isn't absolute and objective, but relative to how you choose to weight certain criteria.If I decide to attack you because I think it will get me a unicorn, I kill you, but I didn't get my unicorn, did you defeat me because my goal wasn't achieved? Wikipedia would probably label this a victory for you because I left and went home leaving your corpse on the ground after not getting my unicorn.Everybody loses while engaged in war so the concept of "winning" in regards to one is philosophically problematic. War should probably not be referred to in terms of "winning" or "losing" but in terms of the after-war state: you're dead and I'm down a bullet and a chunk of time I could've spent on the correct way to acquire a unicorn. We both had costs and neither of us came out better.We went into Afghanistan with nebulous goals, no concept of what "victory" even looked like, and so we had no clue what we were even fighting towards. Was the end result supposed to be a McDonalds on every corner owned and operated by a white, English-speaking person? We didn't organize the fight to shift the culture into one in which white rule would be accepted so if white rule was some deep subconscious goal, of course we lost against their natural reluctance to accept it. But calling it a "defeat" when we weren't consciously fighting TOWARDS anything concrete seems like a curious way to put it. We arrived, killed a bunch of people, then kept killing people who didn't want us there, then realized that this was costing us a bunch of money and... why are we in Afghanistan again? So we left to avoid the continued cost of a pointless forever war.They didn't defeat us but only made us realize that wandering around Afghanistan killing people isn't a free activity.
>>65265394>face two enemies who try to impose ideology the populace is diametrically opposed to>both enemies refuse to engage in total war due to political circumstances>winIf the US decided to kill every Afghan taller than a wagon wheel, the Taliban would be entirely unable to stop them. However, the US refuses to do this, and so they lose.
>>65265394>What's their secret?No Jewish Problem.Both USSR and USA (especially GWOT) were completely Jewish run, and the aim of the Jews was not to defeat any enemy outside USSR/USA but to degrade those White nations by any means necessary, and mostly as Dr Fauci once said about his plan to destroy existing Vaccine regime safely standards, "from the inside, disruptively and iteratively".>The Afghans didn't invade Washington or Moscow in either war.I wouldn't be to sure about that. Afghans are fairly well represented at least in European Rapeugee standings, "punching above their weight and numbers", and I'd assume at least WashDC is full of "our loyal allies" from Afghan War. Then say Moscow has more Muslims than Paris, and like Paris they are recent foreign invaders, not just Muslims from various USSR regions.
>>65265394Dornish courage
>>65265394Being unprofitable to occupy. Loads of countries could occupy Afghanistan, but they'd all come out poorer and weaker than before they started.
>>65265791The US military has always been good at taking on actual militaries in a straight fight. It's insurgencies that are a pain in the ass because it turns out that burning down every inhabited location for a hundred klicks doesn't poll well at home. Anyway now you're having to pay the Iranians three hundred billion dollars and drop all sanctions because you didn't have a plan to stop the Country That Can Close A Strait from Closing A Strait. I honestly think there WAS a plan for it, but everybody involved in it was shitcanned for being '''liberal'''.
>>65265536What were the Arab states believing in when they all got raped by Israel?
>>65265560This is a pilpull-y bullshit to try and save face where suddenly nebulous objectives becomes an advantage in propaganda instead of a disadvantage. Quit this rule lawyering bullshit, it's unseemly and it convinces absolutely NOBODY but those who already are refusing to call a spade a spade and admit defeat. We lost. That is fine. Every state in human history has lost wars. No state in human history is undefeated. Quit being such a fucking pussy you can't take an L.
>>65265988You know the cope is that they simply weren't worshipping Allah hard enough back then. When they were constantly taking swings at the Israelis, it was all about that Pan-Arabism shit.
>>65265421Least retarded /k/faggot post lol
>>65266008It's rather nonsensical to use the same word to both describe a civilization being razed to the ground with the ground salted and someone walking away from a voluntary fight they no longer feel like volunteering for.There are various strengths of goals, goals shift all the time, and we do not use the word 'defeat' to describe every shift away from a goal:>"I was planning on changing both my front wheel bearings and brake pads tonight, but it was hot and I have to work at 1AM, so I decided to just do the side with the bad bearing and I'll do the other side tomorrow."Did the job defeat me since a reevaluation based on the circumstances caused me to shift my goal?
>>65265394>defeat>long windbags weighing in, armchairs creakingI think when you put up a leader, and they die is when you consider it a defeat. Russia lost. America won. Everyone loses in the end because it happened.
>>65265791>it's a Robert threadgenuinely amazed you haven't offed yourself yet
>>65266085Yes since you didn't accomplish it.
>>65265988>What were the Arab states believing in when they all got raped by Israel?Taghut, and nationalism which is why Allah(SWT) humiliates them, even to this day. >"Say, 'O Allah, Owner of Sovereignty, You give sovereignty to whom You will and You take sovereignty away from whom You will. You honor whom You will and You humiliate whom You will. In Your hand is [all] good. Indeed, You are over all things competent.'" (3:26)>>65265421you cannot be an incel with a tfr of 6, and marry an obedient wife. They're the least incel people on the planet and admirable, because how much men in the west now get an obedient virgin wife to marry?
