Was "fragging" during vietnam actually killing incompetent officers or was it more evil malingering draftees killing officers who actually made them patrol and do their job instead of sitting around on the base?
probably a bit of both, but I'm assuming it was probably mostly asshole officers trying to jump up the ladder and make themselves look better at the expense of their men
Murderers are generally not reasonable but yeah probably a bit of both
>>65265710I don't have any evidence to back this up, but I'm going with 2nd option.
>>65265710>Was "fragging" during vietnam actually killing incompetent officers or was it more evil malingering draftees killing officers who actually made them patrol and do their job instead of sitting around on the base?It was the latter, with an added element of subversive enemy IO. It was extensively recorded at the time, to the point that there were listed and published bounties on officers, and not incompetent ones. It was basically the 60s equivalent of failed men in western countries who get radicalised into going on shooting sprees and shilling for hostile powers by those hostile powers. The entire antiwar movement basically was, and the popular interpretation of fragging incompetent officers is plain lies from the antiwar movement to rehabilitate the practice.
>>65265728being drafted should count as the government attempting to murder you.
>>65266064Pacifism does require a certain degree of detachment from reality, I suppose.
>>65265710"yes, both and WTF is the diff" is pretty much what I've gotten from 'Nam vets.The missions were "no win, regardless, even if 110% successful" for all parties involved, except maybe for John Kerry and Al Gore types to check that box.
>>65265710third option; they were trying to impress Hanoi Jane so that she would show them her pussy
Roughly how many time did fragging actually happen?Has it largely been exaggerated in popular culture and memory?
>>65265710>>65265729>>65266064Yeah fuck them draftees. If they was real Americans who loved they country they would've VOLUNTEERED to kill them COMMIENEST GOOKS who was tryna take they God-given freedoms.
>>65266072Being drafted by the government is them allowing you to legally kill human beings as well.
>>65265710Did fragging happen during the Korean war/WW2?
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>>65265710Vietnam was a Holy War. White Christians against Atheist Gooks(communism).Draftees were evil because they didn't want to be there. Anyone that would frag an officer had an eternal soul as black as their skin.
>>65265710Nothing I hate more than a draftee pretending to be a veteran.
>>65266414This but Unironically.
>>65265710The vast majority of combat roles in Vietnam were filled by volunteers or draftees who volunteered specifically for those roles so it was probably a combination of actual grievances against officer incompetence as well as evil malingering volunteers who were fed up with routine duties and just wanted to sit around base (especially if their tour in country was close to finishing and they didn't want to tempt fate any further)
>>65266400500-1500 cases is the accepted range. Mostly wounding, not fatality, mostly with grenades, and extremely difficult to prove it wasn’t accidental blue on blue.
>>65266420>Did fragging happen during the Korean war/WW2?Dunno about WW2, but during the korean war there were company+ sized mutinies in the american army. Its kind of hard to know since entire battallions were wiped to the last man more than once, nobody would ever know if their command chain broke down since there were no survivors.
>>65266072Freedom isn't free you commie sob
>>65266072I fully support using force for self defence. If someone tries to force me to fight an offensive war on foreign soil, im using that gun in self defence
>>65266414Unironically yes. Based Hegseth making the commies and DEI pogs seethe is the best part of this timeline.
>>65266887This was a war against communism though. I would agree if it was a Dem trying to draft us to go put down a chud rebellion in the UK or potatoland but killing commies is the Lord's work.
