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“The army will turn its weapons against the Kremlin.”

Russian soldier Aleksandr Lunin, wearing his military medals, threatened Putin with a new military mutiny. In a video address, he claimed that Russian soldiers are being tortured and punished for refusing to carry out what he called “senseless suicidal orders.”

Lunin demanded a live meeting with Putin to tell “the whole truth” about the situation in Russia, warning of serious consequences if his demands are ignored.
https://www.dagens.com/war/russian-veteran-threatens-putin-the-army-will-turn-its-weapons-against-the-kremlin


This needs to go viral. And I suppose the guy should go livestreaming 24/7 from now on for the lulz.
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>A new Prioghin?
>"If I don't come to the Kremlin and speak alongside you soon, the army will turn its weapons against the Kremlin."

>Russians are actively pushing for a video appeal from a veteran of the so-called "Self-Defense Forces of Donbass", the former commander of the Sudoplatov battalion, Alexander Lugina,
who promises to organize a military coup against Putin.

>The Russian in the video talks about the torture and rape of Russian soldiers for refusing to carry out "stupid orders".
>According to him, many soldiers who refused to give money to their commanders were humiliated.

>He demands that he be allowed to tell the whole truth in a live broadcast with Putin.
>Otherwise, he promises to march on Moscow.

The video is Russian with no subtitles but here it is. It's just an angry zigger officer ranting to the camera.
https://files.catbox.moe/mttr26.MP4
https://t.me/ssternenko/59896
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>>65274518
>Lunin demanded a live meeting with Putin to tell “the whole truth” about the situation in Russia
Even when they're on the cusp of becoming self-aware, Russians still default to the classic
>if only the tsar knew!
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>>65274518
nope
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>>65274518
>>65274534
>Is it starting?
>It's just an angry zigger officer ranting to the camera.
answered with your own follow up post
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>>65274518
>>65274534
Hes so fucking dead, dude.
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>>65274518
>>65274534
They've been doing this for years. Appeal to king monkey because the boyars are undermining him. They seem to be unaware that Putin is known to largely avoid the internet, and that he also just doesn't fucking care. Besides, these people are serfs, they will be loyal right up until the moment a bigger monkey shows up.

The Wagner rebellion was a glorified protest march and priggy got cold feet because he realised just how close he was to toppling the entire country and panicked.
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I would so fucking livestream. If he gets acked in real-time fort the world to see, Pootin would have a hard time saving face. That guy should get starlink asap.
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>>65274518
No, its just an angry rant from a disgruntled soldier. More than likely the dude will be sent off to the grinder in a relatively quick fashion once he's identified
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nah, nothing will happen. other then him being visited by the FSB and a bag of hammers.
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>>65274518
I am from Ukraine, took my parents to my house (I moved to village ~40km away from Kyiv in dope ass house, because the deal was too good to pass)
My mothers birthday is june 21st. So we had guests when Prigozhin mutinity happened, everyone was enjoying delicious shashlyk and grilled corn with mushrooms when that shit was unfolding.
She said it was best birthday ever.

My birthday is on 24th july, hope i will get my share too,
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>>65274565
>these people are serfs, they will be loyal right up until the moment a bigger monkey shows up
>he realised just how close he was to toppling the entire country and panicked.
The fact that the Russian public simply sat there and watched scared the everloving shit out of Putin. Political apathy is a double-edged sword.
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If Putin's circle has any object permanence they will remember Prigozhin and get this guy shut up by any means. Probably violent ones.
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>>65274540
>Hes so fucking dead, dude.
he's deader than that journalist that said live on radio that he'll disclose everything about the corruption in Mariupol when he'll be back in Moscow
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>>65274518
I would take back everything bad I said about the Russian Army (aside from the fact they practice sodomy, which is a fact that they should strive to stamp out of their culture) if they successfully expunged the FSB.
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>>65274613
This guy is going to end up issuing a redaction with two black eyes and bloodstained pants before disappearing entirely.
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>>65274518
I think the Gov's capitulation on the Roblox protests sealed their fate.
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>>65274538
>answered with your own follow up post
I'm not OP.
I saw it on TG, debated whether I'd get a 3d vacay for making a thread or should maybe just post it in a designated dunk thread, then saw OP's thread.
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>>65274565
>They've been doing this for years.
They don't usually threaten coups and they aren't usually as credible as a brigade commander covered in medals.

>>65274580
>If he gets acked in real-time fort the world to see, Pootin would have a hard time saving face.
No, that's *how* Putin saves face.
You missed the point of Pringle's sky diving adventure.
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>he claimed that Russian soldiers are being tortured and punished for refusing to carry out what he called “senseless suicidal orders.”

What year is this, 1905?
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>>65274518
>muh if only the czar knew
meh
Wake me up when military vehicles with red Zs start appearing in somewhere near moscow.
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>>65274518
russia blames someone for their problems and it ain't putin
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>>65274648
>they aren't usually as credible as a brigade commander covered in medals.
Sure, but more important and higher ranks military officials have been exiled, arrested or windowed (sometimes all three). Complaining like that is a good way to get send on one of those suicidal assaults yourself.
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>>65274534
>Self-Defense Forces of Donbass
lmao isn't he one of their useful idiots? congrats retard, you got what you paid for
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>>65274606
Or...hear me out. They make him their figurehead and depose Putin so that they can control things from the shadows. Russian Warlords Era DLC dropping soon.
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>>65274518
>“The army will turn its weapons against the Kremlin.”
It was three years ago.
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if only the tsar knew what was happening at the front
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>>65274518
From now on, he should stay away from windows and other dangerous places.
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>>65274832
>those advertisements

do russians have tigers?
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>>65274534
Hope he doesn't pussy out like pringles did.
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>>65274832
The red Z's were some serious kino.
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>>65274535
Russians also make heavy use of implication and layered speech, so that could very well be interpreted as him saying he's going rape Putin on live tv.
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>>65274590
Bless you
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>>65274518
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>>65274518
>Lunin demanded a live meeting with Putin to tell “the whole truth” about the situation in Russia
If only the tsar knew!
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>>65274832
>>65274606
>>65274590
>>65274534
We all know what happened to Prigozhin, but does anyone know what happened to the regular soldiers that took part in the mutiny?

I'd assume execution but they need(ed) all the meat they can get.
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>>65275344
Sent to Africa on a suicide mission in Mali.
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>>65275344
They're making Swastikas out of Africans.
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>>65274878
They do have T I G E R S
and H I V

Air defence systems are being contracted across Russia to cover the Putin Palace, Moscow and Kerch Bridge, everyone else will just have accept the fucking from Ukraine's drones
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>>65274590
Wish you the best, anon, stay safe out there
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>>65274518
It will not happen. They would need to have any interior political support. Look how Prigoschins little insurgency went.
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>>65275344
If I remember correctly they either went to Africa to trained and fight with some local militia or sign a new contract with the MOD.
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>>65275679
>Look how Prigoschins little insurgency went
Really well? So well the Russians started digging up the highways into Moscow and building tank traps and placing mines? It was called off when his family was threatened by Putin (through Potatoman).
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>>65275344
Forced to sign MoD contracts and become professional soldiers or sent to Mali to carry on milking the retards there who think that Wagner perform better than France would.
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>>65275710
They do better at committing the war crimes the guys paying for them want them to do. France tended to balk at that sort of thing.
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>>65275721
They're sent there to 'protect interests' for Mali and Wagner just occupy gold mines and shit, claim they're 'protecting' them and then use it to make money to funnel back to Russia.
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>>65274518
>This needs to go viral. And I suppose the guy should go livestreaming 24/7 from now on for the lulz.
Can you be any worse at trying to fit in? Literal paid zigger bots that don't give a fuck are better than you, and that's a standard lower than global trust in the ruble.
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>>65274518
Stupid theory of what happened:
>FSB blackmails the existing military to control them for decades.
>all the military gets turned into cubes, including high ranking members.
>FSB cannot build new schemes fast enough to control the new generation of military
>ziggers develop new , alien concept of self preservation.
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>>65275679
Completely unopposed?
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Not gonna happen unless there is a new strongman they can rally behind.
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>>65274518
"if only the tzar knew the truth"
these people still think Putin is completely cueless and care about tthe serfs lives
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>>65275820
Lol you mad faggot?
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>>65275779
that might be true actually

i think the soviet military was also at its most competent in 1945 after 4 years of non stop fighting, when all the political types had stopped constantly fucking with it
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>>65275820
Sorry but brics lost.
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>>65274534
>tell the whole truth in a live broadcast with Putin
poor putin doesn't know :(
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>>65274832
TIGERS
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>>65276080
Did you know Russia has P I D O R S?
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That didn't take long
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>>65274518
>“The army will turn its weapons against the Kremlin.”
they don't give the part of the army that are a rebellion risk a significant amount of ammunition or training.
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>>65276355
P-please dont have me thrown out the window dear Tsar, I know yhe boyars dont tell you everything!
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>>65275793
Completely unopposed and completely unsupported. Most of rusian units on their way went
>not my problem
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>>65274518
>meeting with Putin to tell “the whole truth” about the situation in Russia
Ah, yes, tzar good, boyars bad, and when the situation is explained to tzar he will solve it.
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>>65276355
buck status?
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Its hilarious how often russian unironically do if-the-tzar-only-knew shit.
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>>65276355
>originally want to have meeting with Putin because you think he doesnt know whats going on
>actually its not Putins fault, the bloggers aren't telling him whats going on
He still doesn't know then. If you dont tell him whats happening how will he ever find out.
>discover ignorance
>decide its people presenting incorrect info
>decide not to correct them
Lmao they deserve everything they get.
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>>65276355
The Raped
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>>65274518
>one grunts opinion
He'll flee to the US and end up a reverse copelord, sadly no one is making a run at monkey any time soon.
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It's had some effect apparently.
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>>65275853
we should get to see their reaction when they actually met the mighty tsar and he just laughs it off just like when flat earthers get to see the curvature of the earth
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>>65276735
Ukraine should drop supplies to units that publish videos like this.
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>>65276735
i've seen these videos for like 4 years now and not much has come out of them. maybe they just clapped internally
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>>65276747
>Ukraine should drop supplies to units that publish videos like this.
I think they're more worried about their strategic popcorn reserves.
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>>65276666
Goddamit Lucifer, did you really have to jinx it?
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>>65276666
>no one is making a run at monkey any time soon
So you're saying we'll have to wait until autumn?
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>>65276888
Sorry anon, you can try reddit if you want delusional hopium.
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>>65276735
>good shall prevail
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>>65274518
>>65274534
RIP him. About to be FSBed.
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>>65276634
kys eurofaggot
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>>65274518
this sounds like a pol thing you should go there
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>>65274565
>got cold feet because he realised just how close he was to toppling the entire country and panicked.
Just another example of
>BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!
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>>65276355
Would you look at that! He went MIA and voided his contract. No pay out.
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>>65274672
She would probably make a ood wife, with a total brain wipe and complete personality replacement therapy.
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Hopefully by personal meeting with Putin he means showing bayonet up Monke ass
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Before anyone ponders the brown post above, that one recently bombed factory in Voronezh saw 120 to 300 ziggers entering the "good russian" category
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>>65277344
What did the factory produce?
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>>65277354
Microelectronics and power electronics components apparently for missiles and drones mostly.
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>>65277379
Good hit.
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>>65276747
Anon, these soldiers are not protesting against the war in Ukraine, they're protesting that the war in Ukraine is badly done. Drop them supplies and they will simply attack Ukraine better equipped
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Some more hopium for all of us TZD connoisseurs.
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>>65277302
>NOOO RUSSIA IS FINE STOP LAUGHING
contrarianism is a disease, you are going to live your entire life as a retard with a mindvirus that causes him to think shilling for dictatorships is putting him in control of a situation he disagrees with, rather than making him a useful idiot.
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>>65277442
>will turn into a colony of China
Pretty sure that already happened a couple years ago.
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>>65277442
Any idea how much interaction this post has on what-I-assume-is-Telegram?
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>>65277442
>WITHDRAWED
Which translator is that?
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>>65277449
Nah, sadly the X poster didn't include and I don't know where the fuck it's from. So take it with a grain of salt as always.
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>>65277448
>NOOOOO RUSSIA IS FINE STOP LAUGHING
>ENGAGE WITH MY STRAWMAN PLEEEEASE
no lol, you are a useful idiot and you're going to die of old age wondering why shilling for all of those third world dictatorships didn't actually help solve any of your issues.
>I-IT'S THE JEWS
putin is a jew
>I-IT'S THE LIBS
libtardism is a direct result of russian demoralization tactics
>I-IT'S THE GAYS
russia is the gayest country on the planet
>I-I JUST WANT THE WEST TO COLLAPSE SO THESE THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES CAN FIX US
russia is the end state of where you fear the western world is headed, they are not le trad bastion, traitors like you would also be shot first by them.
>I-I'M A THIRD WORLDER AND I WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS!
during times of economic turmoil caused by war, third world shitholes are always going to be squeezed first because western and economically developed asian countries are going to outbid you for goods of all kinds.

there is no actual reason to shill for russia unless you are a mindfucked sub-90 IQ retard who is easily duped with sweet honeyed words.
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>>65277448
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>>65275803
Did he know he was going to die?
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>>65277484
That was in Rostov-on-Don. I think he was still riding high here, though don't know if this was before or after he found out that SHOIGU! GERASIMOV! had bounced the fuck out of there when he started his march. He might have felt pretty fucked when he didn't get them and had to march on Moscow.
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>>65274518
I'll believe it only if Putin is publicly rendered out of office. People have been pissing themselves with excitement over rumours like this for the last 4.5 years, and every time it becomes clear that, actually, Putin has the domestic situation locked down pretty securely. I think people are now so used to Ukraine's various successes in the news that we've forgotten that despite it's obvious problems, Russia is not so fragile, it is a formidable force. In fact we now almost take it for granted that Russia are taking such clobbering, but absolutely nobody predicted the war would unfold like this. Only a few years before the war, Russia took Crimea effortlessly, while Ukraine was unable to retake territory from even proxy rebel forces. Now Ukraine is bombing Moscow and has totally outmatched Russia in technology and production. Extraordinary, and I get why people are impressed, but it doesn't mean Russia is about to implode.
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>>65276735
I hope they come back to their senses, return to the fighting and then get deleted by ukie artillery.
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>>65277344
>that one recently bombed factory in Voronezh saw 120 to 300 ziggers entering the "good russian" category
The official count was 6.
What's your source for 120-300?
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>>65277585
Does a strike like this in the middle of the day when people are working look like something that'd only kill 6 ziggers?

And this is only 1 strike location on the building too. The 120-300 comes from locals, 2ch talk, X etc. So take it as you want, though the locals are leaving a really large amount of flowers by the plant too.
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collapse when?
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>>65277397
>Good hit.
Very much so.
Ukraine also blew a gas plant the fuck up, one of Russia's only sources of He, which is also critical for missile production.

The strategic bombing campaign is now in the process of disarming Russia of their main remaining weapons, missiles.
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>>65277612
Missiles have never been Russia's main weapon and probably never will be. It has been for a long time useful idiots
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>>65277611
It baffles me that there still are Russians going on vacation to Crimea as if nothing was happening.
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>>65277453
>sadly the X poster didn't include and I don't know where the fuck it's from
Anon, you may be retarded.

The name of the account is right there, I typed that into google translate and then pasted the words oфицep пepeдoвoй into Telegram's channel search.

This is the source of your tweet:
https://t.me/officer_on_the_front2/14779

Now whether this is genuine or an SBU psyop is anyone's question.
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>>65277601
>Does a strike like this in the middle of the day when people are working look like something that'd only kill 6 ziggers?
I asked you what your source was, when you respond to a question with a question, it means you don't know the answer.
I assume the source is that you made it the fuck up.

Here's my source:
>Astra sources confirmed near-total destruction of four floors at the VZPP-Sborka plant in Voronezh after the June 22 Ukrainian Air Force missile strike. Three of the destroyed floors were production areas and one was administrative. One improvised memorial plaque was installed at the site, listing six employees killed, matching the official figure.
https://t.me/noel_reports/48411

Please present a source of that kind of clarity, or shut the fuck up.
I want dead ziggers as much as every other moderate but let's not huff the hopium.
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>>65277616
Russia has been saving up missiles to chimp out at Ukrainian targets every week or so because they're the hardest thing for Ukraine to intercept. So to stop thousand year old monasteries being bombed it makes sense to throttle Russia's production capacity.
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>>65277616
>Missiles have never been Russia's main weapon and probably never will be.
Well they're the direct cause of civilian casualties in Ukraine and cause quite a few infrastructure problems.

>It has been for a long time useful idiots
I can't fault your logic, those aren't so easily dealt with by FP-5s though.
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Simferopol and Feodosia are being droned right now btw
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>>65277661
>>65277664
Yeah I wasn't trying to imply dealing with missile production was bad, sorry if it came across as that.
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>>65277644
Could be, but I didn't really go looking for it either. Nice one for finding it though.

>>65277658
I wasn't the anon who made the claim, just trying to offer you what I know of it. I've seen it around in other places too. Yea, I don't know what the fuck the source really is and if someone just pulled it out of their ass, but that 6 zigger claim is as much bullshit as the larger one if you just take a look at how fucked the whole building was. The truth is somewhere in the middle probably.
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Anyone have a sense of whether the fuel crisis is principally panic buying at the moment, rather than an actual shortage? Critical shortages suddenly developing everywhere all at once doesn't seem likely, but we know panic buying spreads very fast from many examples in the last few years like during covid. Not to say there isn't an actual fuel shortage, which looks like it would get worse, but for now perhaps if people just accepted some restrictions they would actually have enough to function almost normally.
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>>65277752
Probably a mix of both to be honest. Like the Moscow Refinery that got raided produced like 40% of Moscow region's gasoline and 50% of its diesel. That alone must hurt like a motherfucker, but it wasn't even an isolated incident. This shit's been going on for months by now and it's starting to bite more. But all the retards panic buying fuel certainly doesn't help, but from what I've seen that doesn't seem that prevalent, probably because other ziggers are starting to view violence at the gas pump as a rational way of acting.
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>>65277673
>Yeah I wasn't trying to imply dealing with missile production was bad, sorry if it came across as that.
Nah, I got the joke you were making (and don't disagree that Active Measures are among their greatest successes) but it was maybe a little reductive and I felt it was dismissive of the point of missile production as a strategic target.
Missiles are kind of the only battlefield (for some value of battlefield) weapon that Russia has that Ukraine doesn't have a direct counter for.
Well, glide bombs too I guess.

Neuter those and Ukraine would have a very easy time of things.
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>>65277769
I predict that once the panic buying subsides, pump availability will improve and vatniks will spin this as the crisis being resolved
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>>65277677
>Could be, but I didn't really go looking for it either. Nice one for finding it though.
What do they teach you newfags in /b/ these days anyway?
In my day, there were "how to dox amateur camwhores...for newfags" infographics.

>>65277677
>that 6 zigger claim is as much bullshit as the larger one if you just take a look at how fucked the whole building was
One journalist said that four entire floors were demolished but I think that's bullshit too.
It looks like a few rooms were caved in and there'll be enough damage to put quite a few offices out of use until everything gets moved to an undamaged area/building and set up again.

A motivated staff could do it in hours but Russia, maybe a few days.

I've been in buildings that have been hit by shaheds, it usually only totally destroys a couple of rooms, then it's just varying degrees of fucked up depending on how the blast wave flows and conducts through the building. I think this damage is a bit beefier than a regular shahed, or maybe it was multiple hits. Was it an FP-5?
I guess that the damage goes maybe three rooms deep, two in height and two across so about the equivalent of about 12 offices or other rooms, though whether they were occupied we have no idea.

Anyway, I can see 6 being a legit figure for deaths if it hit a sparsely populated part of the building, or the company is on life-support, or it's the night shift, add maybe a few dozen more in hospital from people in rooms that didn't collapse and a few survivors dug out of the rubble.

We really don't know how many staff they had in that building at that time. We don't know what rooms were in that space. If there was a store room or the janitor's nook, the casualties could be low.

The company may well not have a full staff either, they're probably not being paid real money for their military components so might be on a degree of skeleton staff.
For sure, some of their male workers have been lost, there's a reason that 5/6 are female.
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>>65274534
That's totally ai dude you can see artifacts all over the video
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>>65277785
>I predict that once the panic buying subsides, pump availability will improve and vatniks will spin this as the crisis being resolved
Dead Cat Bounce, oilnik edition.
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>>65277804
>What do they teach you newfags in /b/ these days anyway?
Back when I was in /b/? Mostly how to close pools in Habbo Hotel and how to use LOIC.

I didn't really feel the need to go track it down so I didn't. Just wanted to share it as hopium for the thread. I did notice the name and thought about going through the trouble of finding it, but I know you're big boys here who can do it themselves.
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>>65277354
Diapers, hence the brown outburst)))
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>>65274534
>rape of Russian soldiers for refusing
Is not gay rape /k/umrade, is punishment.
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>>65274590
Chwała Ukrainie!
>shashlyk
Based.
Życzę Tobie i Mamie szczęśliwego dnia, mój bracie.
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>>65277601
At least from my experience, the upper floors of those legacy office spaces tend to be unpopulated during off hours.



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