say you're in charge of russian forces. how do you save crimea?
>>65275900nuke it. losses are acceptable and ukraine won't want it anymore.
Coup Putin then surrender?
>>65275900Give it back to Ukraine
>>65275900Endless broadcasting of swan lake
>>65275900If i wanted whats best for Crimea? Leep it free of russians
Have civilians go into the sea and link arms, forming a bridge like what ants do to cross small streams. Dastardly crests wont attack a bridge made up of women and children. Small downside is that you wouldnt be able to move vehicles or even larger pack animals across the zigger-ant bridge. I propose Llama are used instead as beasts of burden.
What exactly does the state of emergency mean?
>>65275956Vodka and lube reserves running dangerously low
>>65275900>say you're in charge of russian forces. how do you save crimea?Can’t send supplies by sea, ships will get dronedCan’t send supplies by road or rail, will get dronedKerch strait and North Crimea natural choke pointsCould maybe do air-lift but dose Russia have the aircraft or resources to pull it off?I think form a military point of view you can’t and your best option is to withdraw, but that not going to happen is it because this is a political decision and Crimea is a major political linchpin in the psyche.So Crimea will become total zigger death spiral for the Russian Empire as Vladchimp Monkey keeps pouring resources into it.
>>65275956just means there's some drone debris surrounding POW camps nothing to be concerned about
>>65275956Translation, my limo needs a full tank of fuel in order for me to bug out. Please understand.
THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADEEVERYONE WILL KNOW EVERYTHING
>>65275900By deploying wooden ox.
>>65275956Hamster looking awfully tasty
I think Ukraine has made it's point. It's time for them to calm down now
the last ferry burns
>>65275996Absolutely, I'm sure some soldiers will be happy to relax at their favourite bars in Melitopol and Mariupol.Hang on, just getting a note...
russian civilians suffer and you're laughing!
>>65275900Withdraw the garrison, hand it over to ukraine, let them feed the 2 million people living there, as it stands the peninsula is becoming unholdable for russia
>>65276010seriously. look into her eyes and tell me she deserves it. i fucking DARE you
>>65275900I go back to Russia and take my forces with me.
>>65275996funny thing is, if Russia offered Ukraine a weird sort of joint-ownership of Crimea, I think Ukraine prob would accept it.
>>65276019I think that ship has sailed years ago.
>>65276019>joint-ownership of CrimeaLike it was before 2014?
>>65276019I don't think Zelensky is completely trolling when he says "let's freeze the front line and then hash this out in a neutral country". But since Russia is still currently demanding maximalist things and Ukraine being disarmed and isolated for round two, cowabunga it is then. Of course ideally Russia should be reduced to its 1991 borders, but that's the domain of a major upheaval within Russia and trying to time one of those is folly.
>>65276005No, those stupid bastards, what have they done? How could they be so cruel? Now because of them we NEVER get to see temu D-Day on Odessa. Cursed world we live in.
>>65276015Something something Conan lamentations something
>>65276022it wasn't joint ownership at all, they were just leasing their port to the russians, no?
>>65276022But it wasn't. It was officially Ukrainian with Russia leasing the port. I'm talking about some weird situation a bit like Northern Ireland I guess, where free movement between it and Ireland and if you're born there you can pick which nationality you want.Alternatively, separate it from both. Make Crimea its own country and have it be a UN Mandate or something.>>65276021Most likely, yes. But it's just the guy going 'we're part of yours too' well legally outside of the odd pariah state, it's Ukrainian.>>65276024I totally agree it should go back to 1991 borders. But Sunk Cost Fallacy writ large here with Russia and Putin is very much in the mode of 'I don't care, we'll get it eventually'. Especially after Trump pumped billions into Russia over his Iran Adventure. EU was planning this all to be over by 2030 but that little thing will prob make it 2040.
cuck
>>65276015I don't want to look at her ugly face, no thanks.>>65276016But do you fly your jet when they tell you to?>>65276024>Of course ideally Russia should be reduced to its 1400 borders
>>65275900Honestly just don't defend it. Ukraine would be suicidal to attack over the dnipro from kherson down towards crimea. At most they would use the reduced defenses to do harassing attacks with their SOF, which they are already doing regardless. Anything which isn't air defence, and now also air defence, are just cannon fodder for drones right now.
>>65276033>Alternatively, separate it from both. Make Crimea its own country and have it be a UN Mandate or something.If Ukraine agree to that after they take over their property back, then yueah.
>>65275900send master chief there
>>65276035>a russian sobering upAbout as realistic as RT's MH17 stories
>>65276035Somebody gave him a stern talking to.The next mutiny, should it come, will not be announced before local officers are already arrested/shot.
>>65275900Is start building bowling alleys at an alarming rate
>>65275962>Could maybe do air-lift but dose Russia have the aircraft or resources to pull it off?Flight traffic to Crimea has been cancelled because any plane flying in can't be re-fueled for the flight back.
>>65276010Yes. Problem?
>>65275900>save crimea?
>>65276076>Russia claims Ukraine are just confused Russians>Bombs it and kills its people thinking done
>>65276065Flight back?
>>65276028No temu D-Day on Odessa.No aliexpress Dunkirk from Kerch.No alibaba Operation Dragoon to re-take Crimea. If it wasn't for all the zigger death, I'd deem the Ukranian evil for denying us this.
>>65276033>if you're born there you can pick which nationality you want.They did that, Crimea chose to be Ukrainian. It was the narrowest margin in the oblasts though. >Alternatively, separate it from both. Make Crimea its own country and have it be a UN Mandate or something.Ukraine has committed to it being a semi-autonomous Crimean Tarter pseudo-oblast.
Where do you guys get those Ukraine war daily report cards?
>>65276115Telegram. Noel_reports has them, a few other channels do too.They're probably originally from some MoD spox.
>>65275996>Chud face, elderly Heh
>>65275900Just turn sevastopol into an impregnable fortresshttps://files.catbox.moe/wkve2f.mp4
why did russia take crimea again
>>65275900>save?
>>65275900It's pronounced Crimyiv, i am going to have to report you for to the thought police because i suspect you of being a Russian agent.
>>65276076>its peopleuh-huh
>>65276136Something about a port for their black sea fleet. We dont talk about that anymore
>>65276133wut gaem?
>>65276010>russian civiliansNo such thing
>>65276015
>>65276115>Where do you guys get those Ukraine war daily report cards?Found the original source. It's the AFU General Staff channel. Only Ukrainian and a noisy channel but a lot of info and some kino posted there. Entirely one sided of course, they're not doing zigger propagandists work for them. https://t.me/GeneralStaffZSU/40404
>>65276033>Make Crimea its own countrythat ship sailed in like 1918
>>65275956It's one step below a state of war. It means the gloves are finally coming off.
>>65276076I'm actually curious about how much of Crimea's pre-2014 population is still around.
>>65276015I wanna see what that face looks like after 25mm correction
Scrounge together whatever AA I can from regions that aren't along the frontline and station them all in Crimea, while hoping some the assortment of -stans doesn't stab me in the back. Alternatively, bite the political bullet and order mass mobilization despite the tremendous discontent it will cause and put pressure somewhere else along the front to distract from Crimea.Final option, would be to just stick my head in the sand and wait it out. The drone spam has to stop at some point and people aren't quite yet starving to death for probably another couple of months; worse case scenario there will be a mass exodus of civilians on foot but Ukraine will be unable to actually militarily retake the region, so it will be a political disaster but a military stalemate.
>>65276010Sure am.>>65276015She does, and so do you for trying to make me look at that.
>>65276185Cry more. Daddy will come back one day, Vanya.
>>65276010I'm merely pleased at this moment. When they're gunning down moscow women to mass graves then I'm laughing.
>>65276010>russian civilians sufferHuh? What's so different about now?
>>65276185Can you elaborate?
Russians are soliciting ideas for Crimea from Westerners now?
>>65276184Isn't the problem right now basically that Crimea is too close to Ukrainian-held parts of the country, and is under constant attack from cheap medium range drones that have already destroyed countless pieces of AA equipment?Of course, they have to keep feeding in a slow trickle of AA anyway, because if the southern front loses all AA coverage, the Ukrainian Air Force might join the total logistics death operation. At which point the frontline will probably collapse.
>>65276203I've been saying it for years now, drones are all well and good in contested airspace but fast jets remain the apex predators of the battlefieldwe'll know the end has come when we start seeing them fly over the front lines again
>>65276206then puccian civilians can have fun getting bombed
>>65276206Looks like I struck a nerve
>>65276206the bombing will continue until you learn your lesson or are rendered physically incapable of continuing the warwhichever happens first
>>65276182there is an estimate of 250k tarters left.more than half escaped Crimea back in 2014about a mill of vatniks have moved into crimea since 2014 with its current pop of 2 millso im guessing minus the tartars, about 500k original inhabitants left. most of which were ethnically russian anyway
>>65276216>Ukranzania and it's supporters are blood thirsty maniacsWith neighbors like Russia, it's hard to find fault in this.
>>65276216always projecting
>>65276216Yet katsaps are the only ones actually doing the things that they accuse Ukrainians of. Funny how that works isn't it.
>>65276203Well, yeah. The current drone spam is allowed to happen because Ukraine spent the better part of a year meticulously chipping away at Russian air defenses. Russians could probably shore up the defense again, but that would come at the cost of leaving border regions completely defenseless (or wherever they'd have to pull the remaining AA from). That's probably why they're not doing it and just waiting it out instead, but I'm just saying that if I was the supreme commander I'd take the risk.
>>65276136To have access to the oil in the basin
>>65276216The sun shines a little brighter every time a puccian dies.
>>65276221Nothing is stopping Ukraine from destroying any new AA concentration. There is nothing that Russia can do because the snowball is rolling down, growing bigger, in Ukraine's favour.
>>65276184>The drone spam has to stop at some pointWhy?>Ukraine will be unable to actually militarily retake the region, so it will be a political disaster but a military stalemateWithout resupply and reinforcement, in-place units will desert, surrender, or be attrited.They won't be able to defend the minefields and Ukraine can breach the defensive lines at their leisure.
>>65276216>Ukranzania and it's supporters are blood thirsty maniacsOnly towards Russia and who can blame them?>>65276221>just waiting it outIt's weird how they'd think that the drone count would go down over time and not up.
>>65276183>25mmMy condolences, Anon...
>>65276233Of course not, but if they really shored up their defenses it could maybe stabilize the situation and buy them another 6 to 9 months. That doesn't really solve anything, but Russia has been kicking the can down the road this entire war, so it's one of those "we'll cross that bridge when we get there" type of situations. >>65276241>Why?I don't know. I'm just trying to place myself in the shoes of Russian command, and be mindlessly optimistic. >Ukraine can breach the defensive lines at their leisure.No because they'll just get counter drone/rocket spammed from (relatively) nearby Russian positions. Even if the Russians retreat, Crimea would be no-man's land at best.
Go home and remove Monke. Any other answer is lunacy.
>>65275900>announced on his telegram channelisn't telegram illegal to use because the owner bailed from russia
>>65276209Yup. I don't think the Ukies are going to risk their precious jets while the possibility of AA firing at them exists.However, if the AA degrades to a point where they can toss US & Euro precision munitions at Russian logistics as they please, the frontline is going to see new degrees of fucked, new recursions of ass in the ass, etc. Even Russians probably have a limit for how long they can subsist on grass and cholera-laden shit water.A short-term surge in AA efforts might delay that for some time. Despite what some might claim, plenty of those drones are shot down.But they'd still need a plan to win in some other way, because bringing more AA in there to get attrited won't accomplish that.
>>65276252You're right 50mm is gonna way better at rendering vatniggers into pink mist
>>65276267I dont know much about how AA works, but what is preventing Ukrainian Jets from climbing to 10k feet, and launching their missiles at specific targets close to the front lines? Higher elevations, closer to the front, the further a missile can go into Russian territory.Dont they have AA counter measures? Even if S300/400 launches, dont they have like 8 warnings? Are these jets not able to outrun a missile launched from 100km away?Why are they always "staying under the radar" wouldnt the superior F16 have far better missile evading characteristics to bait Russian missiles, while a second jet fires on the launch site, or at least multiple drones can be sent?
>>65276257>they'll just get counter drone/rocket spammed from (relatively) nearby Russian positions.The only nearby positions are being starved of supplies before our eyes.They won't be doing shit and Ukraine has all the time in the world and a stronger drone force every day.
>>65276281>50mm is gonna way better>posts 30mmYou tell Russian girls that 30mm is really 50mm?
>>65276297Sorry I forgot the 914 is a grower not a shower
>>65276291>Why are they always "staying under the radar" Scientists simply don't know. >wouldnt the superior F16 have far better missile evading characteristics to bait Russian missiles, while a second jet fires on the launch siteBy treaty, only the F/A-18G is allowed to do that.
>>65276291They're already tossing all sorts of stuff from a reasonably safe distance. There are videos of precision munitions (e.g. the French-made AASM) destroying high-value targets like command centers and drone operator hideouts near the contested zone.To hit targets further behind the lines, the jets would have to climb up perilously close to the line, and expose themselves to radar detection and AA fire. The chances of the AA missile finding its target are not zero in that situation.
>>65276206That's fine. Then Ukraine will just continue the dronings until Russia is forced to stop by way of ceasing to exist as a nationstate.
>>65276028(me)Just found out that someone already seethed about this just 12 hours ago, funy
>>65276317>infrastructuresDo you expect honest people to reinvest in those like some burgeois degenerates? Tourists can set up tents, shit in a ditch and wash themselves in the sea. It builds character.
>>65276291>superior F16Those F16 all old af A/B variants
i hope you monsters are happy. people's lives are being turned upside down
>>65276297Isn't it always the case with girls?
I always side with the underdogs so I hope russia pulls through
>>65276264Rules for thee but not for me, same reason as to why Medvedev can dump his delirious sabre rattling on xitter while it's blocked for the rest of the serfs
>>65276383The foreign minister using foreign platforms makes sense and is internally consistent thoughSending your PSAs about purely domestic things to your parish on a platform that they'll be arrested for using isn't
Easy just ban super yachts.
this is not okay
>>65276115https://mod.gov.ua/en/news
>>65276399>submarines: 2This will never cease to tickle me
>>65276206
>>65276360Monke doesn't shut the ride down for any of the serfs.
>>65276152Gates of Hell: Ostfront
>>65276065>can't be re-fueledYou could fly the fuel in... but if can't get the fuel in the first place because of Ukrainian sanctions then... lol
>>65276395We're going to watch what an oil collapse looks like in real time without having to suffer it ourselves. It's glorious. Also>maybe the government can helpThey just don't get it.
>>65276181has the eyebrow been raised?
>>65276395>I want to appeal to our governmentHonestly amazing how they simply refuse to learn anything.
>>65276424>>65276431The recent panic in Crimea has made me realise that the overwhelming majority of Russians are genuinely completely unaware that they're even at war
>>65276360It is good that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it. Between Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine, and Ukraine II, Russia is clearly too fond of war. The best blessing or kind wish I can offer is that I hope they lose their fondness for military conquest sooner rather than later, and before they have incurred the sort of global generational ire that loses them the protection of the laws of war for a hundred years.
>>65276432Overwhelming majority of people in the Eastern hemisphere really, but especially bad in Russia and China . They blindly trust their governments
Is Crimea strategically important or is it just a political win to whoever gets to keep it?
>>65276440Warm water ports, but also the place is basically Russia's Mallorca.
>>65275900>No fuel>Dwindling food supplies>Erratic electric supply>Dubious naval connectionsThe answer is obvious; rename it 'Koreyskaya avtonomnaya oblast' and give it as well as 1/4th their remaining gold to Kim, the Chosŏn inmin'gun will never surrender an inch of clay that has been theirs for over 6000 years!
>>65276440It is a strategically important staging ground and port along with its political and cultural significance.
>>65276440Russia has had a hardon for the place for almost 200 years, it's also why they hate the English so much because Britain cucked them in the first Crimean war.
>>65276452>Ukraine gifts Finland the same>Korea and Finland now have a territorial disputeThis is how you get the second hyperwar, do you want the second hyperwar?
>>65276015She deserves it
>>65276468Yes.
>>65276010>>65276015mfw>>65276424>>65276431isn't just a rhetoric figure allowing them to complain without openly criticizing the government? in my country we'd be shitting on the gov nonstop. it wouldn't help, but in Russia it might have actual negative consequences
>>65276468Can the planet contain all that autism?
>>65276440Culturally, it's the equivalent of Mexico retaking Texas. Strategically, there's an important port there, but Russia's navy is so cucked at this point, it doesn't matter as much.
>>65276360I would gut her like a fish
>>65276477>isn't just a rhetoric figure allowing them to complain without openly criticizing the government?That's often the case, but with these vapid cunts in Crimea I think it's a legitimate case of >>65276432
>>65276431>>65276424Interesting observation from RU 2ch anon being shocked how many normies around him exist in a bubble.>drive2 is a "automotive social network" of sorts, people post about their cars, do repair logs, photos and such>"not buying up" == "can't understand at all">odnoklassniki ("classmates") is the gigaboomer social network>"being facetious" in this case means that they're dumb and post using the ")))))" smileys
>>65276483It's more of like if Mexico took the entire coast of Texas and Louisiana
>>65276362>Isn't it always the case with girls?Some of us pack a calibre with stopping power
>>65276440Both. Literally the 80% of the russian "success" on the battlefield in 2022 was because they had Crimea. If it was unoccupied, there would be no russian in Kherson and Zaporizhia regions. They'd wouldn't even be able to take Mariupol.
>>65276495
>>65276505
>>65276481It better, while everyone was distracted the Mass Autism Array 2.0 nears completion...>The Nork's Parades sole purpose is to channel Autistic Chi into it's batteries
Why did Zeleboba have to go on an announce this "40 day blitz"? Haven't we had enough>2 weeks>3 days40 days will pass and ziggers will make a meme out of this
Could the Sea of Azov be turned into a freshwater lake with a Dutch-style dyke across the Kerch Strait?
>>65276451>also the place is basically Ukraine's Mallorca.FTFY>>65276440It will let Ukraine really have fun in the Sea of Azov and basically control the Black Sea, at least Russian access to it.
>>65276510>the fucking is only accelerating Hot
>>65276515I don't see why not, you could do the same with portions of or even the entirety of the Baltic sea.
>>65276452You're a treat to have around, Norktard. Don't let anyone tell you differently.
>>65276426Yes and no. It does a credible impression of a windshield wiper.
>>65276024The moral outcome is the deportation of every Russian 'civilian' outside of the ethnic Russian homeland and the execution of every traitor who worked for any of the Soviet puppet governments.
>>65276432It's nice that they waited with that realization until Russia is much less capable of doing anything with it than before. I wish complete and irrevocable sobriety upon all Russians (I know this is a cruel punishment, but they deserve it).
>>65275956FEMA
>>65276432i think they know but have a subconscious "i didnt see anything" attitude going on
>>65276525Thanks! Joking aside Russia is probably eyeballing the Norks vast supply of bridging equipment right now, them showing up in Crimea is entirely plausible given their ongoing deployment of engineers to the conflict.
>>65276512It's actually for SCP containment.
>>65276395>it has only been a week since the beginning of all this>3 months of hot weather and high petrol demand ahead
>>65276539>complete and irrevocable sobriety upon all Russianswar crime
>>65276514>Why did Zeleboba have to go on an announce this "40 day blitz"?It's some kind of psyop. Maybe bait them into thinking things get better then, followed by a rug pull.Or it's aimed at the Kremlin to delay their response. Or it's a threat, to get Putin to sit down at a table.
>>65276522We should do that for when climate change forces whites to flee northward, a house on the former seabed of Bothnia sounds lovely this time of year
>>65276542>i think they know but have a subconscious "i didnt see anything" attitude going onIf you don't see the SVO the SVO can't eat you.
>>65276555>DigitsUm....Uh...Which SPC!?!>>65276569It would take care of Europe's water needs pretty much forever and if it was in the form of sea walls that were tidal generators it could power the entire continent. You would also get a great place to put wind turbines and rail roads.
>>65276574It would also be next to Russia.
>people and businesses have to wait hours to get fuel>that's time wasted not being productive >have trouble going to work or shipping stuff due to lack of fuel>people are spending less money since they don't have the fuel to drive to shops>businesses and workers are making less money due to thishow long can a society and economy last like this before collapsing?
>>65276583>Russia literally walled off from sea accessOK.>>65276574>>65276555>Which SPCDuh, pic related.Fun fact: With a mention in the Toho approved Monarch series Pulgasari is now Godzilla canon.
>>65276360I'm sad for the li'l one
>>65276590You know Russians, they will 'endure'. And it's funny because 'enduring' is used as derogatory by russians. They keep enduring shit without protesting
>>65276035Dumbass thinks he can avoid the consequences by backing down now.Too late, the windows are on to you!
>>65276019Fuck that and fuck you. TZD.
>>65276495dvachers are cursed to live amongst goyim until the nation implodes/the eggs hatch/the eyebrows raise/chipmunkization begins
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
Every time I look at a map of Russia I am just utterly baffled by why they feel the need to commit national suicide for some clay when they have such a truly massive amount of undeveloped land that they could spend the next 200 years purely colonizing their own territory and come out of it a true superpower instead of a petrol kleptostate.Imagine Monke's legacy if instead of sending over a million men to die for nothing he sent a million men to start building infrastructure in the east, giving them land Roman style for their labor.Western corporations would be licking his platform shoes for the chance to get in on the resources there, and if they actually built a modern rail line from Vladivostok to St Petersburg they would basically have a money printer that would make their national gas station look like a bag of cheetos as payment for the blood of their sons purely from the shipping of goods from China/Japan/Korea to Europe that otherwise needs to sail around the entire continent, not to mention the strategic and domestic benefits it would have.
>>65276145Looking forward to your drone video debut.
>>65276624TWO NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>>65276624LET THE OIL HIT THE (tss tss)FLOOOOORRRRRRRR
>>65276495your perception is your reality. that's why a free and factual media is so important and why social media will be the downfall of human civilization
>>65276563They started. I'll go to the hearing as soon as the Hague processes all the civilian murders, rapes, kidnappings and shit.And they'll still have to testify while sober :^)
>>65276426The asshole rises
>>65276630Because russia is a mongol rape baby state (no, not that kind of rape baby you japanese grandfather having freak) that hasn't fundamentally changed since the last of the khans died. They've always been corrupt, expansionist, liars and they'll never change.
>no one has thought to sell food, drinks, and tobacco to the people sitting in linelost opportunity
>>65276655what food?what drink?what tobacco?
>>65276630You really don't understand Russia.Ask yourself, what made it so big and unwieldy in the first place?It is an opportunistic empire that tries to conquer everything around it.Even if the new additions are detrimental to the empire itself.It's basically a cancer. It just tries to grow uncontrollably, even if that kills it.
>>65276630It's a nice idea, but you're forgetting that we're talking about russians here. Constructing something truly modern, useful, and robust is a bridge too far for them, much like the Kerch bridge for which they brought Dutch engineers to help build it. And even if they did somehow not embezzle & ruin the construction of it with their incessant corruption, it would eventually still fall to ruin as maintenance is a foreign concept for ziggers. I doubt even an Enlightened Monke could whip the fucks to do a good job, and keep doing it.Destruction is all ziggers know. Monke knows this, and so does any zigger ruler. So if they want to "advance" as a "civilization," their only option is to try to achieve that by being the biggest faggots on Earth to everyone near them. It's good that they are so fucking inept at it also.
>>65276630one of monke's reasons for the invasion was to help solve russia's demographic crisis. their birth rates are in the trash so he thought adding ~40,000,000 people would solve the problem. hilarious how the SMO has only sped up their demographic decline
>>65276652Yes, ultimately the issue with Russia is that it is full of Russians.I hope pooh bear decides to do a funny and turn the bugman army to Manchuria instead of Taiwan, it would be hilarious to see and honestly a good idea for China if they truly do want to take Taiwan.>China has the exact casus belli that Russia used for the war, Chinese speakers>Manchuria is literally Chinese clay>It gives the chinks a trial by fire to work out the worst of the issues with their military>Unless they completely and utterly botch it they could literally take the whole of Manchuria before monke can even physically move soldiers there>Gives China good boy points with the West, gives them new land to plunder to keep their economy afloat and gives the public a victory to brag about online>Only thing monke can do is sabre rattle about noooook, but if there is one thing Chinese people are good at doing it's not caring about their countrymen dying en masse, so even IF monke has a single working nuke left China can tank it and spin it into Western aid and propaganda, (we won despite being nuked!)
>>65276657fair point. surely they'll finally protest when they're literally starving, right?
>>65276639https://www.myinstants.com/en/instant/oh-wa-ah-ah-ah-disturbed-vocal-only-183/
Fuckin' LMAO fellas, that one SMO veteran who made the video demanding an audience with monke apparently did set something off. (Even though he walked it back like a pussy) Pringles must be smiling in hell. Should we start taking bets on when the Second March to Moscow starts?
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>65276689i fucking hope they rebel, but they'll probably give up when the checken bulls are sent in
>>65276689For those who missed the original demand video:https://xcancel.com/JayinKyiv/status/2070224021610807808#m>>65276702True, but it'll be fucking funny if the frontline collapses because they start a civil war on it with their rear guard blocking unit.
>>65276702If anything the second they see an opening the Chechens are going to become one of the first of the new Warlord states trying to plunder the old empire.
>>65275900Genocide every single man, woman and child there, tourists included
>there's an ask a russian subreddit >they're delusional not sure if I should laugh or cry
>>65276440Reconquista wibe
>>65276680No. Soviet Ukraine didnt protest during the Holodomor when they were literally resolving to cannibalism while 90% of their grains got shipped to Moscow.Soviets know how to break you. All Russians are broken. It takes decades of not being under Russian/Soviet rule to undo the mental damage.
>>65276733RIP
>>65275900Just start dropping tactical nukes on Ukrainian positions.
>>65276733Can you even stock up on fuel?Like what you're going to fill whole tank and maybe buy a canister? You know things that people do regularly.It's not the same at all when people were filling their storage rooms with toilet paper.
>>65276741welp, I hope at least he'll do something funny in the drone video
>>65275900Leave.
>>65276753you're not allowed to fill any canisters. you can only fill the tank of your vehicle. I've only seen one video of someone filling a canister (a drum on a flatbed truck). i think they rest of the people in line didn't kick his ass because the truck was probably used for important business
>>65276741Sasuga.... Truly a brother nation to the global south
>>65276741my fiance lived for 4 years in St Pidorsberg as an ESL teacher working for the US department of education.she promptly left when the war started.prior to that she worked in Vietnam, Myanmar, and Kazakhstan. She said that st pidor was the better of those places, and was very civilized and everyone was great and everything was good.im sure it was before the war. now russians are showing their true colors. i would stay the fuck away for the next 50 years.
>>65276780Colombians are one of the main groups in the International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine.
>>65276590I guess we'll find out.
>>65276790It is generally understood that Moscow and St Petersburg enjoy near-first world living standards (they get some points deducted for the rampant corruption and AIDs rates) but most of the rest of Russia is almost pre-industrial.
>>65276590is fine. google says no collapse
>>65275956It means the army can steal your fuel.I mean they could steal your fuel before but you had a right to complain, not anymore.
>>65276790Pidorsburg has been one of the more civilized places in Russia for a long time.They used to like to larp as Euros, go on trips to Finland, the Baltics and beyond in their expensive German cars, etc. They had shopping malls just for them in south-eastern Finland.
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>>65276812>FilenameYou again.
>>65276753>>65276776>>65276590It already costs them about 25% of their average monthly salary to fill a tank 2x so they are screwed no matter what according to whining Russian women on tiktok. That is 26 liters, apparently the average gas tank in Russia is 13 liters? *Converts from Freedom Units*WTF my van holds 60 liters, my 4 wheeler holds 18. How tiny are their gas tanks, 3.5 gallons?
>>65276829>In 2022, Russians would try to mock Europeans by live-streaming gas stoves running 24/7Karma is a bitch, innit?
>>65276596Yeah, because mommy is retarded and there's a risk it's genetic.
>>65276829maybe a translation error? many regions have a limit on how much gas you can get at a time. I've seen limits of 20, 30, and 40 liters maybe they meant the cost of fueling to the limit which may not necessarily be the capacity of their gas tank
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>>65276603>'enduring' is used as derogatory by russiansElaborate?>>65276623>chipmunkizationWhat's this about? Haven't heard that one.
>>65276574SCP-1427
Is this some kind of provocation? Why do you line up for gas when you can just ride a bike?
>>65276873all bikes were taken to be used by the army. please understand
>>65276835>>In 2022, Russians would try to mock Europeans by live-streaming gas stoves running 24/7Remember the cringe ads about UK women freezing and then moving to Russian chad Ivan or some who had gas, food etc. Pure comedy
>>65276639On the contrary, Rosneft has started a cloud migration.
>>65276224To deny Ukraine access to oil and gas. Russia doesn’t need more wells, but Ukrainian wells threaten Russian monopoly.
>>65276655It's Russia. Do you have a license to sell here/ sell from a moving vehicle (never mind that's literally a shopping cart)/whatever? Russians learn that no matter what initiative they start, someone else will soon come grab their money and/or their business.
>>65276499That just sounds like you have herpes
>>65276856Deeper and deeper.
>>65276873Yeah, if you are a city dweller you're fine. I am in Europe and I have a car but I don't use it at all during summer. But you have to think about that a lot of people drive to work. I have colleagues that drive for 1-2 hours a day to work and they fill upp at 1-2 a week. People like that are FUCKED
>>65276835>Karma is a bitch, innit?Is it even karma?>if you touch the white hot iron you'll burn yourself>touches hot iron>is burnedThat's not karma, that's just being retarded.They were warned years ago that nothing good was going to come out of this shit, and now the things they were being warned about are starting to happen. And this is just the beginning. Shit has yet to hit the fan.
>>65276879This war has given us so many gems.
>>65276872I'm more of an SCP-1471 fan myself...
>>65276842Oh the hotel itself is one. Neato.>>65276842It has to be, they have too many used Japanese imports for 13 liters to be the average gas tank size. Maybe the machine translation transposed liters with gallons? That would make alot more sense.
>>65276739Why do you lie, like a faggot? There were protests and riots, thousands of them. More than a million people participated in them. People did push back and got slaughtered by the NKVD and army. One of the ways why so many people died was that the borders of Ukrainian SSR were sealed by commies so that people couldn't leave the region, since the neighboring region magically didn't have famine.
>>65276679I'd be completely unsurprised to see Chinks do just that if/when Russia actually starts falling apart, with seceding regions and shit.
>>65276878fug, cut out the car floor and flintstone it
>>65276753>Can you even stock up on fuel?Yes. People who have the need (which is a very minor niche) often buy from 200 liters of the stuff and up to 1-1.5 tons of the stuff. It's all a hush-hush gray area shit since a private person shouldn't be able to store fuel and so on. Loicenses and all that. But this isn't about "panic buying" or anything, that's just regime cope for propaganda.
>>65276590what you're describing is a collapse already in progress.>some businesses had margins narrow enough so that they don't make profit anymore, they're at loss>now they can only eat up their cash reserves and their assets>some had little enough of reserves that they can't pay their employees anymore or they go straight up bankrupt>now the people are losing money, they can only eat up their savings>some have little enough of savings, so they won't last long>now they are a drain on their family, friends, the state>which brings others in the red numbers...the funny part is that unless quickly reversed, the process can only accelerate
>>65276915they probably don't even need to invade since they're on their way to being completely economically dependent and subservient to china. i wouldn't be surprised if russia sells and/leases land to china in exchange for forgiving debts
Kinda crazy how good Pypa and Russia had it overall with unlimited cash inflows from selling dinosaur farts to Europe, good trade relations and very scarce perspectives of Ukraine entering EU/NATO and he threw it all away.
>>65276931I'm just worried that the average russian, despite being broke and starving, would just lay down and die instead of rising up. or that recruitment numbers skyrocket and the military would be one of the few places still hiring
>>65276790A foreigner living on rich (by local standards) wages in the center of metropoly will think that shit's nice because they live basically in a parallel world to the locals, including but not limited to the fact that a fuck ton of people will them as "the fancy foreigner" and go out of their way to help you.Yes, despite russians as a society, culture and regime hating the west (for many different reasons), they are still deeply provincial and have complexes about that, so they desire to be acknowledged by the west and so on. For them a foreigner from the west is a big deal.
>>65276829>*Converts from Freedom Units*That reminds me: have Russians started going back to Conventional Units, or not yet?
>>65276937europe constantly tried to help russia to be a normal productive nation and Russia slapped their hand away every time. russians are fucking insane
>>65276790Piter and to a lesser extent Moscow are what you'd expect from a typical european city, it's the rest of the country that drags the average down. Also people from Piter are known for being faggots and liberals so that that as you will.
>>65276945This will truly go down in history books as the worst geopolitical move in the last 200 years.
>>65276931>more people start stealing stuff from work to make ends meet>casual corruption explodes as people try to scrounge some extra money wherever they can>productivity takes a nosedive as the 4$ worth of copper wiring stolen by Ivan causes a million dollar disruption of logistics and industry>public order gets worse as the cops focus on graft (their own) instead of controlling the population and occasionally fighting crime
>>65276898Buda Buda Budanov
>>65276941Anon, some rural Russians still use this shit:
>>65276946>Piter and to a lesser extent Moscow are what you'd expect from a typical european city, it's the rest of the country that drags the average down.My retarded imperialist friend, the only reason those cities look normal is specifically because the rest of the giant country is robbed to shit and lives like bums.
>>65276505people seriously underestimate how much of the russian internet is under constant glaveset spam/surveilenceI've read an admin of some obscure atmel microcontroller forum complain that even his little place gets regular IRA spammers
>>65276937Putin is a total retard. Pre-2014 most people were either indifferent to Russia or outright sympathetic. He could have done literally nothing and Ukraine would have probably been a Belarus analogue by now.
LMAO Monke's dacha on Lake Valdai has been demolished, supposedly to avoid the humiliation of Ukies doing it for him.
>>65276978Hell even pre-2022 people were indifferent. Pre-invasion Ukraine was basically stuck into a neverending quagmire with no realistic prospects of joining NATO while Russia still had very favorable relations with other EU nations despite all the shit they had pulled (especially MH17).
>>65276979i wonder if monke ordered it or someone in the chain made the decision so they eliminate the risk of having to tell monke the dacha exploded
>>65276812>It means the army can steal your fuel.And carsAnd host soldiers in your house.
https://youtu.be/Aq3Oi6tzYcY
>"Chit... Chita, Chita, June 26th, yeah, 11 PM. Fucking mess, just a total mess! People are literally ready to fight with knives.>They film all sorts of [reality] TV shows like 'Surviving in Samarkand', or whatever the fuck. Man, they need to be filming 'Surviving in the Far East'! Right here in Zabaykalsk, or in Chita.>It's just a total mess, fucking hell, the government of the Russian Federation. But on TV they show that everything is fucking awesome for us. Is this fucking awesome? For [a limit of] 30 liters of gasoline, or 200 liters of diesel... you literally have to spend fucking hours standing in traffic jams just to get to the gas stations. This is pure madness, bitch. Where the f is all of this heading? I'm losing my mind. A traffic jam, fuck.>And the gas station is way over there, see it sitting up on the hill? Oh, what fucking fuel... F, it's a horror, a total horror. A collapse. But hey, everything is 'fucking great', the picture on TV looks good. We are completely fed, damn it."
>>65276990I think it must have been monke himself because there used to be like a dozen S-300/400 along with pantshits protecting that area. Apparently he finally decided that he couldn't afford the AA on it anymore.
>>65276938>I'm just worried that the average russian, despite being broke and starving, would just lay down and die instead of rising up.I'm not worried. I mean, I acknowledge that possibility, but consider it a benefit.>>65276971>he doesn't knowAnon, I'm not talking units of measurement. I'm talking monetary units.Conventional units (ycлoвныe eдиницы) were alternative currency, ubiquitous in ex-USSR around the time of collapse. Basically "USD-equivalents, except we're not allowed to say dollar". All rubles got you was minor shit like groceries, if you wanted to buy anything more expensive like a TV/car/house, you paid in "y. e."https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Уcлoвнaя_eдиницa
>>65276978I really don't understand why Putin didn't overrule Yanukovych when he walked back on starting the EU accession process. One of the reasons the French were so dead-set against the Bongs joining the EU was that they were afraid that they would be a trojan horse for the US. Ukraine joining the EU would be a prime opportunity for Russia to pull the same trick.
>>65276655>and tobaccoits illegal to sell tobacco outside authorized stores in Russia
>>65276856Does that mean the clown show is coming to an end?
>>65276849>Elaborate?NTA but what he likely meant is the term "тepпилa" (terpila, stems from the word terpet', literally means "to endure"), it is used to mock anyone who just sits and endures any amount of abuse and humiliation, either silently or by constructing copes about not actually doing it/doing it for some higher reason. Fun part is that this term applies to the whole nation, but there's no bigger pleasure for the average Ivan to find someone who is a bigger Terpila than himself.>>65276907Hope someone tells Kimmy that releasing Mal0 into public use would net him a planetwide deity title
>>65276979More likely it dawned on him that the optics of keeping a fuckton of AA assets to protect his personal palaces while the Russian public get daily dronings was not doing him any favors.
>>65276979No more chill and disco?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKw3n1Gsrtw
>>65277029Yanukovych only walked back EU-accession because Putin pressured him.
how can retarded and corrupt russians supply this many people in warzone?
>>65277049>Yanukovych only walked back EU-accession because Putin pressured him. The treaty had been provisionally accepted by Yanukovich in 2012. The Rada ratified it in mid-2013. Yanukovich was supposed to sign it in early December. He was summoned to Moscow 3 days before the limit date.
>>65277019Oh, that's when they price things in real money so they don't have to change the labels everyday due to constant swings in the value of their monopoly money/toilet paper. No idea but wouldn't the government crack down on that sort of thing? I stopped paying attention to their monetary policy when i learned you can take out a payment plan for a single slice of bread.
>>65276849chipmunkization is basically locking yourself into NEETdom+ to avoid being conscripted in either the current Russia or a suspected very soon mass mobilization.It entails never going to court summons, never using the metro (facial recognition), not using banks and basically just shutting yourself out of society entirely to not be fertilized
>>65277029>I really don't understand why Putin didn't overrule Yanukovych when he walked back on starting the EU accession process.Yanukovich walked back specifically due to Putin's pressure. That's the fun part of the whole story: majority of the business interests which were supporting Yanukovich (Akhmetov and other corrupt oligarch faggots like him) were pro-EU, because that's where their interests were, namely in the access to better markets, financial resources, rule of law, property rights and all that. Do you think people like Akhmetov would prefer to live in Russia/Belarus, where their property and assets could be stripped away willy nilly because some faggot said so? Nah, all of those men want western institutions.
>>65277058poorly
>>65277034No, the cumulative effect of refinery strikes is more important.
>>65277058the same way they didnt supply them at the start so they pillaged and robbed everything in sight.
>>65277060Are you agreeing with me?
>>65276849>What's this about? Haven't heard that one."Behaving like a chipmunk", as in preparing your stuff for long term isolation and hunkering down away from retards.
>>65276183>25mm correction
>>65276883Looks like they absolutely fucked their go-live
>>65277058by cannibalising their civilian economy.
>>65277082 >Are you agreeing with me?Basically yes.
>>65276995Forgot to mention, this is the Russian sexyhag explaining how shit goes down in Crimea.
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>>65277035to put it into more perspective, the word тepпeть has another meaning, "to suffer".i'd imagine endurance more as Japanese shikata ga nai or Finnish sisu. suffering fits Russians better
>the wives and mothers of press ganged men put up more resistance than the men themselves what the fuck?
>>65277150Normal in russia. Organizations like Soldiers' Mothers have more political power than you'd think.Ethnic russian men are at the very bottom of the foodchain.
>>65275900I embezzle my entire budget and sail my yacht to a tax haven.
>>65277063Neat, I wasn't aware it was a thing. I assume it has a Russian name?
>>65277150>>65277157For a long time in America, organizations like United Daughters of the Confederacy or Daughters of the American Revolution had real sway in local and state politics.
>>65277035It would surely be worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize and international acceptance. It would also mark him as amongst, if not the, greatest reformer of nations in human history. I'm trying to make her real in my own way almost every single day.https://files.catbox.moe/8b4nbp.png
>>65276753>>65276776>Can you even stock up on fuel?No. Fueling is limited to like 20 liters per car.
>>65277169Yeah but it's in Cyrillic and I forget it. Lots of other fun words like Skuf and like 15 other ones I'm forgetting. 2ch has a very dense vocabulary because it's basically the only place in Russia that has any semblance of culture (I'm not counting Pikabu or whatever)
>>65277177>women realized if they gathered in groups and nagged at once, they had actual powersame reason why there's a million fucking "Mother's Against Who Gives an Actual Fuck, They're Not Here to Solve Anything, Just Here to Feel Self-Righteous and Annoy Everyone."
>>65277206It's a phenomenon that mostly has died in the 21st century. Thank God.
>>65276694See? Tuva is a land of abundance amidst chaos)))>>65276733it's been completely overrun by ogres since the war. Russians group themselves in very apparent ways because actual Russian society is atomized and fucked and this subreddit is basically just random pidors rambling about perfidious albions and how Russia is peachy but sinister boyars ruin western media или чтo-тoAnother funny thing is every platform that tries to teach Russian to foreigners is completely infested by native speaking Russians by a ratio of like 3:1 per actual learners, mostly because not many people learn Russian and because...I guess they just go wherever?
>>65277150If it was a bunch of men blocking the road the bus would've run them over and the police escort would've shot anyone who remained. Or worse, they would've been herded onto the bus and press ganged themselves lol
https://youtu.be/flQ7LJjdl7A
>>65277210it has been replaced in 21st century by lonely women who can't find a man (because their standards are retarded) scouring the internet for people to witch hunt in order to feel like righteous activists. the need for this performative behaviour has become even stronger now that they don't have the fulfillment of being a wife and part of a family.
>>65277150what is happening here?
>>65276829subcompact fuel tanks start at 35ish liters btw
>>65275956Bunch of drones hit prisoner centers, they are out of gasoline and supplies for power. Cell phone towers, grain storage, are all hit. Hit the big targets. Power stations there are kind of pointless to hit because everyone has generators. So hit gasoline and natural gas storage. Probably 4-5 k Ukraine prisoners running around and the power is out most of the day, comms are bad gasoline is being rationed - bad. They need have gasoline and natural gas because of all the trade happening at this time of the year. They don’t. It’s a 10 to 50 billion dollar loss if they don’t fix it. Then it will cascade down. No ports running now jobs no jobs no money meaning crime on the border of ww1 with drones. You can’t get logistics there if that happens the bandits will just steal them and split the money with the officer who allowed it and will hide 5 million in ak 47 rounds missing in 500 million and claim they got wet or some shit. Iranians refusing to bow out fucked up Putin. Most likely he leaked atomic break throughs which caused the meeting of all the top Iranian brass and leaders which resulted in them all getting blown up which started the entire thing. The problem is Iranians are just waiting it out and orange man won’t put the hammer down because he knows shit goes sideways.
>>65276015>>65276360>>65276395so are on the verge of me being able to be a sugar daddy to prime vodka goblinas for like $50 USD a month?that'd be cool
>>65277201That's true, but ziggers gonna zigger.
>>65277099anon... the cloud migration is going great.
>>65277229Must have been a translation error, i knew those tanks couldn't be that small.
>>65276790St. Petersburg and Moscow are genuinely nice cities. But they're nice because they're Omelas and the rest of Russia is the child. Then you dig a little deeper and realize the culture is made up entirely of people willing to stay in Omelas.
>>65276972I'm not russian or pro russina you fat retard, it's just the truth of life in those two cities, moscow isn't russia and russia isn't moscow
>>65277058By telling them to move forward or die, that they can scavange anything they find on the battlefield, and that all their prior convictions will be expunged when they complete their 6 month (actually entire war because "we found new convictions Boris!") term
>>65276257>if they really shored up their defensesShored up their defenses with what though? They don't even have enough to protect Moscow.
>>65276741Russia's strongest weapon really is it's facade of being a normal, first world country except aligned with third world shitholes.This guy probably watched Videos Russian influencers showing off Potemkin villages and came to the conclusion he had a real opportunity to educate himself.>>65276827I feel I should get other pictures but Verbruggen always gets traction. Would people even recognize me? >>65276856What stage of missile production even uses helium?
>>65277262>I feel I should get other pictures but Verbruggen always gets traction. Would people even recognize me?It's your good luck totem, I guess.
The voronezh plant got gaped pretty well
>>65276395Ukraine should just bomb those traffic jams. That would be fun.
>>65277157Didn't Putin coopt and marginalize them so when he went back in against Chechnya they wouldn't (in his view) undermine the war like they did the first time?
>>65277262>What stage of missile production even uses helium?helium is used to pressurize the propellant tanks. not sure if they can substitute with hydrogen or nitrogen without fucking the missile up
>>65277268No.TZD is TZD but I'm too much of a moderist for that
>>65277277>moderist
>>65276360I'm old enough to remember waiting in gas lines like that in the 1970's (I was the kid in the back seat). Maybe the Russians should do the thing where the last digits on your license plate determines which day you can buy gasoline? Seems like that would help alleviate congestion, since on July 1 only plates ending in 01 can buy fuel, on July 2 only plates ending in 02 gan buy fuel, etc. Plates ending in 32-99 will have their sacrifice remembered in the histories of this struggle &c
>>65277268>>65277277just once or twiceas a treat
>>65277265I'll try finding other pics of Verbruggen.>>65277273I remember the liquid propellents are absurdly reactive, it makes sense that you'd want to pressurise them with something light and inert. But that wouldn't require much, if they were smart they'd have reserves.
>>65276432Somebody should post the video of the woman asking why Moscow is being bombed and why they are trying to drag Moscow into the war between Russia and Ukraine.
>>65277267RU anons on 2ch says somewhere from 120 to 300+ pidors got smoked in the factory
>>65277311ukrainian pows
>>65277313>you see Ivan, it were khohol pows who were making those clones of 20 y.o. western FPGAs
>>65276019Lol. This is just like on that meme where the Russian goes from feeling stronk to begging for his life.Step 5: maybe we could of into sharings?
>>65277336Isn't bargaining the 3rd step of loss?
>>65277336The more things change the more they stay the same
>>65276753>Can you even stock up on fuel?Fill your tank, go home, siphon 90% into a can, hide the can *really* well, go back the next day and fill up again.
>>65277285Hey, i'm not the only ancient fuck around here. Hello fellow old fart, i 'member that as well!
>>65277311Yea about the same what I read on Xitter where that vid is from. Not really suprised given the absolute hammering the place took, in the middle of the day no less. And of course the funny thing is that these were the slightly more valuable ziggers, doing something actually a little complex.
>>65276947>This will truly go down in history books as the worst geopolitical move in the last 200 years.You don't think that was the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact?
>>65277377Why do you order the diplomats names backwards from how everyone else does?
The main question is whether it’ll fall quickly this summer like Kharkov or be drawn out into the winter. I think it’ll be the former.Putin is already pulling every AA he can to Moscow. The rest will be spread out too thin to protect the front against those new Ukrainian glide bombs, and be taken out eventually. But at this rate, putins position will become untenable, Crimea just has to fall and the deep penetration into/of moscow by drones has to continue for a while
>>65276990>it or someone in the chain made the decisionYou think anyone would feel safe razing the tsar's dacha without orders?
>>65275900Scuttle it.
>>65277350
>>65276510>The fucking is only acceleratingDeeper and deeper.
>>65277034No, the circus is going to expand.
>>65277588
>>65275900I nuke Sevastopol.
>>65277822>save crimea by nuking crimeabelkan?
>>65277822Weak and cucked. I nuke moscow so that everyone is aware that we're serious about things.
>>65277233>sugar daddy to prime vodka goblinas for like $50 USD a month?Maybe in a tier 3 Russian city and not quite prime, those girls will go escort in China.
>>65277230>orange man won’t put the hammer downyeah what's he gonna do bomb Iran twice in the last year for months then blockade after shoving shasneeds right back up their entire leadership's dead assesfucking rat.
>>65277262>What stage of missile production even uses helium?I can't speak to the missiles themselves but it's irreplaceable for nanometer-scale semiconductor manufacture, which is kind of important for a domestic weapons industry and something you REALLY don't want to farm out if you can help it.
>>65277262>What stage of missile production even uses helium?Can't say for solid fuel rockets, but in liquid fuel missiles it's often used for pressurizing fuel and oxidizer tanks, purging those same systems before they'll get fueled, for leak testing during manufacturing and more rare even for cooling.
>>65276010Marching to the front line of warzone unarmed with the intent to colonize it doesn't make you a civilian, it makes you a dumbass.
