if war became a game played by noblemen as it should have always been how would warfare evolve?
>>65276282when shit gets real "noble" man would immediately find a surrogate to fight for them, thusly resolving into armies.
>>65276282historically it was that
>>65276282It would evolve from whatever inane faggotry you're fantasizing about back into real warfare.
>>65276282Cool cat. What's it's name?
>>65276282It evolves into lawsuits and capital.
>>65276282Designated combat areas. Negotiated and agreed upon forces deployed to those zones. Purely symbolic, and pre-negotiated, objectives. Independent observers assigned to judge the contest. The idea of 'The Laws and Customs of War' boiled down to gentlemanly agreements to keep the contest sporting. The whole thing observed and broadcast for entertainment by the worlds media companies. Armies pausing their engagements while heroes dueled between them in no mans land, with over the top speeches and soundtracks throughout that duel. It would have been anime as hell; but would that really be a bad thing, or worse than what we've got today?
>>65276330Nigger Man was a black cat, wasn't it?
>>65277263This is actually one of the few cases where mecha could make sense. The challenge, impracticality, expense, and flashyness would all be advantages not disadvantages. Two nobles in gigantic mechanized suits of armor striding across the landscape to do battle over disputes would be pretty kino. And they could concentrate lots of their resources into this endeavor instead of spread out across a vast army, which would also be a lot more efficient since it means lots of people that'd otherwise be economically costly soldiers would be working instead.
>>65277480I imagine that service in the military would be a very rare career in that world, and largely barred to the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum. Soldiers would need to be drilled in etiquette and form as much they were in weapons handling and parades. It's incredibly silly - but I can't quite go as far as making mechs sensible in that setting. It would be much more kino for two men - in equally ridiculous dress uniforms - to stride out into no-mans-land, sword in hand, and call for their opposite number by name.
>>65277500I think there'd still be some application of technological advancement. "Convincing the people" still matters when the stakes are high enough, if you're fighting over a huge portion of land or population or valuable resources or whatever in place of war then on some level I think there does need to be a spectacle that feels like>"Yes this represented the combined power of all the territories/people under this noble and we still lost"Or else it ends up reverting back to broader fighting, or insurgent shit or whatever.If we look at history IRL royalty/nobles cared about conspicuous displays of power and symbolism. Mecha are good for that, in a world without tanks or ATGMs or lots of normal military stuff they both figuratively and literally put the noble rider above everyone else, only another mech (noble) can defeat it so no ideas about "oh we could totally easily change the outcome with a snipe". It helps create a myth, literally making the nobles as one man demi-gods. That could be further reinforced technologically with genes or implants or something that make it so only nobility can pilot. That then would also mean the noble could suppress commoners without developing vehicles commoners could use too. Finally nobles also aren't so noble they're all suicidal, and a mech can have an escape system (which of course means losing). It won't always work, but it'd generally mean two could battle to destruction and the loser still lives even though they'll suffer a loss (maybe there are ransom systems and such as well).This whole scenario is fairly implausible on Earth with real history but if we set things up that way somehow I can see an argument to head in that direction. "The army of a nation, but as a single unit/tiny number of units" is interesting to contemplate.
>>65276282a nobleman/person with conscience would choose a standard chessboard with 64 individual small squares arranged in an 8x8 grid with negotiations in play for a 'y' axis to accommodate air support. a 3D chessboard (such as standard Raumschach), the board is made up of five vertically stacked boards, each featuring a 5x5 grid. This creates a total of 125 individual positional spaces to work with.
>>65277528I can see where you're coming from there. But fucking mecha? Really? Let's have the noblemen of the future riding in high altitude hypersonic fighter jets - jousting above the clouds and just beneath the stars. Fighting their own private war where thermodynamics matters just as much as enemy action.
>>65277536place them both naked into a metal unventilated room with 1 sharpened spoon each. last one standing wins
>>65277547Top of a mountain. No spoon. No clothing. Last Man Standing wins. Final Destination.
>>65277549i'm good with that but the winner still has a chance of being alive at the end of it.
>>65277536>I can see where you're coming from there. But fucking mecha? Really?Yes really. You're indulging in your autism anon and I 100% understand that, but:>Let's have the noblemen of the future riding in high altitude hypersonic fighter jets - jousting above the clouds and just beneath the stars. Fighting their own private war where thermodynamics matters just as much as enemy action.This doesn't appeal to normies in the same way at all, I mean shit, normies can't even see it. With mechs you can have an arena miles across in a valley or next to mountains and have hundreds of thousands of people who can see it play out with their naked eye, as well as simple binoculars. The point here is spectacle and viscerality, two demigods that represent the total might of their realms clashing in enormous rumbles and tearing up of the earth, yet still fundamentally something even a room temp IQ retard can grasp. It might be two giant metal tech guys fighting but it's still two guys fighting, I'm assuming with limited, show-y use of projectile weapons all limited to fairly short ranges (they'd have more serious stuff on tap but that'd be for suppressing normies mostly), mostly having combat be melee. I think enormous land vehicles do a far better job of flexing.Fighter jets are too abstract. You see some flashes way up above maybe and hear some sonic booms in the distance and that's it. Since part of the whole idea here is they aren't causing lots of normal property damage like a real war would, you probably need to do you fighter battles over ocean which puts it even further into the realm of "read about it in the evening news" vs "big event people travel hundreds of miles to see and build a whole (profitable, politically useful) carnival around".
>>65277562>You're indulging in your autism anonand here I was thinking I was being Romantic. Do we really have to pretend that mecha are somehow not retarded though? I'll sign up to watch the nude Pankration sweaty cuddle-fighting live before I'll be comfortable with that.
>>65277562far too complicated. if a nobleman/person finds a need for war they also have to pay attention to costs. the levy on the commoner for your request of your need for that list of armaments would find you swinging from the 1st available yardarm.
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>>65277633ez conscript a legion of south korean starcraft players. extra rice and pork as payment
>>65276282Unironically mecha duels.And the world would be better for it.
