how does one counter drones in the modern battlefield?russian armor and infantry still have no clear defense even with years of experience
you destroy the depots and manufacturers
>>65277401Buy Ukrainian drone warning systems and counter drone-drones. Staff them with Ukrainian trainers and new recruits. Nobody else comes even close. Back that up with the SHORAD / point defense systems Ukraine uses like Skynex and NSAMS.
>>65277403thisif you can't control the drones you gotta control how and where people make 'em which is why US mil complex is getting left in the fucking dust
>>65277401Why are you brown?
>>65277423Fucking embarassing.
How many of these same-topics needed on /k/ Catalog?
>>65277403Except both Ukraine and Iran don't have centralized infrastructure you can destroy easily. Most Ukrainian drone factories are small-scale units that fit in a garage or a basement.
>>65277401zip a dee doo dah
>>65277504>>65277504so what? you still blow it up
>>65277401Swarms are countered by just exploding them in the sky with anything you got. It is the small few that get through which are a problem. Flak guns are back btw.
>>65277504>and IranWhere are the follow up strikes on Israel and US bases?
>>65277504They're manufacturing microchips in their basements?
>>65277401Drones haven't really faced an AA system meant to deal with them yet. Iron Dome needs greatly increased Iron Beam coverage to be sustainable but are a good starting point.>>65277415Ukraine's early warning system and mobile citizen fire teams to a great job against cheap low level drones, they should be adopted and locally modified. A civil response force combined with low level AA teams can use local people unfit for regular military duty. A non totalitarian (for western nations) version of the Norks militia/civil service system would be a good basis, think Finland's reserve system incorporating older people and women but with damage response/EMT/firefighting elements. For the stuff that is above HMG/AC range? Flak guns. The west should dust off all those Cold War designs for 100mm+ guns and start mass producing OTOs. Ukraine has a decent number of KS-19s that i am quite sure they very much regret scrapping the radars/CnC modules for although they still make for nifty artillery. Otherwise Iron Beam and Iron Dome equivalents at every important location, even the Nork's glorious 10K ZPU/ZUs aren't enough to shoot down sufficient numbers of Doom Doritos.For coalitions (NATO) the focus should be on smaller front line states. Israel, Ukraine and Russia have shown that paradoxically compared to historical thinking it is SMALLER states that can protect the best against this type of attack due to a concentration of defenses and ease of command and control. Compact industrial nations like France, Formosa if it got it's shit together and the DPRK would be/are far more resistant to this type of warfare than the likes of Russia or China. Hardened infrastructure and underground structures help alot.
GPS jammingInterceptorsSkyrangerGuys with shotguns in a prop plane
>>65277401Iran seems to be countering American drones by pretending none of their losses have any value and as far as I can tell it seems to be working.
uh oh Robert’s having another melty
>>65277617There are only a few countries in the world able to manufacture microchips. Iran, Russia and Ukraine are not.>>65277591Ormuz status ? I swear you miggers are even more assblasted than ziggers>>65277523Blowing up a single factory visible from the sky is not the same as blowing up dozens of small production units scattered around the country.
>>65277863>There are only a few countries in the world able to manufacture microchipsWeirdly that includes the DPRK. As of two decades ago it was 3000nm microchips and is probably at least 1000nm today. That is HORRIBLY antiquated but good enough for basic military use. A 286 (at the very high end maybe an early Pentium 486 clone) might sound like a joke (and it is) but it would work for a Doom Dorito. It is more cost effective for them to acquire black market chips but Juche says they need to at least have the capability. FYI they got the initial lithography machines via a late 1980's UN program according to the State Department/CIA guide from around the late 1990's/early 2000s.
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>>65277863>gets asked about follow up strikes, which would prove his original point about decentralized manufacturing if present>dodges the question and instead points out that there's sufficient lingering threat to restrict civilian trafficI guess Iran really does have zero retaliation ability then. I genuinely had no idea whether or not their manufacturing was truly decentralized and resistant to strikes, but evidently not. Thanks for confirming that for us.
