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I just don't like this shit, and I won't buy or own it. It's not ergonomic whatsoever, no matter what cope you can muster. No rifle before used this style of charging handle, and no rifle after did, and in fact Stoner himself didn't even design this ergonomic disaster. I will not accept any arguments that this is a suitable place for a charging handle because it isn't. You can tell it isn't because the Magpul BAD lever and "gas busting" and ambidextrous charging handles are more or less considered necessary first modifications, and even they can't solve the fundamental problem that the charging handle still interferes with your face position on the stock and is not in the right place to comply with human anatomy.

Being an adult is realizing that remaining willfully ignorant with regards to rifle design and ergonomics is simply pathetic. I should be able to completely manipulate the bolt forward and backward (and also lock it) without breaking my firing grip or moving my face on the stock. With the AR-15, this simply is not possible. Humans do not have enough hands to use this ergonomic nightmare.

Supporting the existence of the top rear charging handle is supporting the federal government bureaucrats who designed it, which are (ironically) in league with the ATF. Top rear charging handle supporters are no better than literal gungrabbers and don't forget it.
>inb4 "who cares" or "nice blogpost"
>inb4 "why do you need to charge the rifle while cheek welded"
>inb4 "why do you need to manually lock the bolt back when it'll happen automatically on last shot"
>inb4 "it's the most popular rifle therefore all flaws are irrelevant and not worth discussing"
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TOTALLY RADICAL DUDE
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>>65291820
Thanks for the bump!
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>65291814
You can't inb4 your own posts you insecure little faggot. Inb4ing your own posts just shows that you're a little bitch and that you know your own post is trash. Just buy an ad for your blog next time.
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>>65291832
>contrary argument not even attempted
Do better. Avoid logical fallacies. I believe in you.
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>>65291826
YOU GOT IT MAN *plays air guitar*
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>>65291814
dang man it works for me i hope you get better :/
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>>65291814
damn, I don't care
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I'd say all the pros outweigh this one con
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>>65291963
it's not even a con it works perfectly fine as long as your rifle hold's it's bolt and releases on command. OP is just not able to yank it back like 5 inches because otherwise the CH would bite his third chin like a xenomorph mouth.
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>>65291814
I fixed it for you
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>>65292065
>carry handle
hipster of the AR universe
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It is a dumb handle, but I find it fun to use
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>>65291814
>the Magpul BAD lever
>more or less considered necessary
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>>65292074
Literally the OG but okay
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>>65291814
>I should be able to completely manipulate the bolt forward and backward (and also lock it) without breaking my firing grip or moving my face on the stock.
What rifle allows this?
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>>65291814
>ITT: People seriously replying to a schizo post
Read the last non-greentext sentence and all is revealed.
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>>65292222
First ones I managed to think of is roller delayed HKs and AKs with a reach under, but then you lose LRHO.
So G36, and SCARs and side charger ARs set up lefty?
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>>65292222
Most nerf guns
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>>65292222
AUG does.
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"Don't break your firing grip" is Magpul DVD/GWOT stupidity that replaced the slightly less stupid boomer doctrine of not breaking your support arm position and thus disrupting your natural point of aim.
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>>65291840
>Do better
No u [faggot]
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>>65292198
>Literally the OG but okay
Yeah, it is the "OG," and they improved the "OG" by getting rid of the stupid fucking carry handle, dweeb.
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>>65292222
More importantly, what fucking utility does it offer? None. Absolutely none. It's just notraining retard seethe.
>>65292243
This.


The AR charging handle may not be perfect, alternative solutions all have their own problems desu.
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>>65292497
>More importantly, what fucking utility does it offer? None.
this. There is absolutely no scenario in which you need to or better yet, *can* keep your sights directly on a target while manipulating the bolt via charging handle. The AR can at least allow you to quickly drop a mag, insert a new one, and send the bolt home while shouldered with one hand on one side of the rifle, which is plenty good enough. The AK for example requires some cumbersome nonsense like using your fresh mag to knock out the old one while reaching your left hand all the way around the gun to manipulate the charging handle. The AR is so much nicer than this.
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>>65291814
Rack with palm of support hand, keep dominant hand on grip
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If you refuse to shoot off-hand, hip fire, or operate controls with your firing hand off the grip, you are a complete and utter faggot.
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>>65291814
what a shit hill to die on



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