retard here: are antennas valuable military targets? sending dozens of drones to knock them out doesn't seem like the best use case
>>65298995
happening status?
>>65299000
retard here: are oil refineries valuable military targets? sending dozens of drones to knock them out doesn't seem like the best use case
>>65299006A single cracking tower at a refinery can cost between 15 and 150 million with an average lead time of 18 months. Theres a reason Russia downgraded their fuel standards that are causing clocked injectors, fuel filters, spark plugs and blow by. Its not cause they want to fuck every modern gasoline car in russia with Euro 3 standard fuel
>>65299024i can't wait until they go back to leaded gas and the average russian becomes even more retarded
>>65299035Well if comrade Monke says there's gas there has to be gas! He wouldn't lie.
>>65299006>retard here: are oil refineries valuable military targets?The entire Russian economy is powered by oil and gas and the sheer size of the country vastly exacerbates any logistical issues they may have because of the war.Hitting the Russian refineries and military industries is probably the best bang for their buck the Ukrainians can get when it comes to destroying Russias ability to wage war in the long term (months-years).
>>65299056anon, they were being sarcastic>>65299035almost had an independent though, there. careful!
>>65298995>retard here: are antennas valuable military targets?if they are American>"lmao no, we didnt want it anyway!"if they are Russian>"potentially war losing, regime ending and possibly balkanizing event for the nation that will result in the shattering of their economy as they scramble decades of losttech to replace it (and fail) thereby causing the entire country to become economically insolvent, hyper-inflation and the couping of the sitting regimehopefully that answers it for you>>65299006>>65299035the road-rage Russians will experience will result in the end of Putins regime..however....there does not appear to be a clear consensus on how many square miles of territory it will recover and whether or not svestopol or simferpool will start booking advanced reservations for beachside partiesthat said, i DID see 2 dudes have an MMA fight over some 97octane, so theres a definite "destabilization" at the DNA level in play here, that could likely result in the death of Putin by road ragers
>>65299000>conditions in the region are worseningand the stiffness of my boner keeps hardening.
>>65299064>almost had an independent thoughtHe managed to suppress it just in time. He might be safe unless that particular video somehow goes viral and gets the attention of someone important.
>>65298995>are antennas valuable military targets?nah. you can just buy them from a chinese radio shack cheaply.
mass starvation when?
>>65299145Nobody mentioned London. Something you want to share with us, Vanya?
>>65299136Unironically it won't be Russia that starves but thirdies and it might lead to wars. Last time we had big harvest issues it was noted as a factor in the Arab spring revolts. Syria happened because of it.Russia produces a lot of cheap shit tier grain for the third world if prices rise too high due to fuel issues (and fertilizer issues due to iran war) it could cause famines, protests, etc..Also, price of meat will go up again too.
>>65299145Yes, yes. Did the AI also mentioned anything about Yuri's Psychic Tower? I also heard the Russians are being assisted by an enigmatic American only known as "Kane" too. He might be the key to all of this.
>>65299162Interesting how we may see the return of rationing tickets there
>>65299148Russians have this idea that Uke missiles/drones are all built by Perfidious Albions.
>>65299056>The entire Russian economy is powered by oilbut ukies aren't hitting extractions, but refining, while most money russia generates is from exporting crude
>>65299182And Flamingos are actually controlled by vat-grown brain clones of Boris Johnson. Apparently, they’re perfectly happy with their existence when they are told about what they’re created for.
>>65299166>Yes, yes. Did the AI also mentioned anything about Yuri's Psychic Tower? I also heard the Russians are being assisted by an enigmatic American only known as "Kane" too. He might be the key to all of this.>>65299171it will be an extremely EXTREMELY humiliating blow for Vladmir Vladmirovitch Putin I, an embarrassment with potentially regime ending implications that will be a windfall for the EU's power players>>65299182>Russians have this idea that uke missiles/drones are all built by Perfidious albions.in this case, full-spectrum AI determined that ukraine is wholly capable of developing and creating domestic missiles and drones, but would lack almost entirely any way to guide or route-plan them to target with out space based assets. the all-weather, maneuvering, day/night capability of ukrainian drones to achieve the spectacular performance seen the past 2 weeks is beyond the capability of even the best intertial guidance systems fielded by first world countries, and thus would not or could not be a feature of domestic ukrainian drones even of the flamingos caliber
>>65299116>i DID see 2 dudes have an MMA fight over some 97octaneIt's already escalated to knives and guns. Seemed to be churkas, but still.
>>65299035This is a weird roundaboutway of saying there is no gas. If you're saying there is gas but people are panicking and buying gas which creates shortages of gas, then there is no gas.
>>65299162>using advanced multi-AI analysis of the data presented above>>65299181>the advanced multi-AI analysis included a segment where each AI was asked to cross-reference and check the data of the other, before coming up with a unified summary of the likely outcomes of the current phase of this war>>65299223>this case, full-spectrum AI determined Holy shit kill yourself and stop posting slop.
>>65299229>>65299229>i DID see 2 dudes have an MMA fight over some 97octane>It's already escalated to knives and guns. Seemed to be churkas, but still.its going to be 28 days later in Moscow, and Putin will be trapped by traffic jams, his fleet grounded by lack of aviation fuel, and starving, raging Russians will storm red square and eat him alive in a black swan event no one but us true believers saw comingthe mewling of pathetic Russians will be heard on the streets of manchester
>>65299148it's cognitive dissonance, they can't believe they're being raped by ukraine so they drift to europe because in their mind this kind of damage on russia can only be achieved by europe. it's actually a compliment.
>>65299241>the zigger doesnt like it when science and facts ruin his "winning!" vibestypical
>>65299182Pretty sure I read somewhere that FP-5 were from a Bong-Saudi company? But the Bongs have made three cruise missiles they plan to give to Ukraine and they made them without US components so Trump can't complain. Tho Trump is distracted about the Bongs trying to regulate Prediction Market apps as gambling so he's gonna slap 100% tariffs on them as punishment.
>>65299229Please tell me you have the video of that. How long until Ruzzia goes full Mad Max?
>>65299035>Tsar good, boyars and gas lines badkek
>>65299035look at this guy, perfect example of russian cognitive dissonance, according to him there is no shortage of fuel, only people panicking, and he's actually the only one in that qeue who needs gasoline.
>>65299259>But the Bongs have made three cruise missiles they plan to give to ukraine and they made them without US components so Trump can't complainthe orange-zegro will pull his satellite-intelligence card tantrum like he did back in March-25 when him and Vance found out they couldnt bully zelensky around like Germany or Spain, when he yanked the Kursk rug and ruined 8 months of progress in 24hrs. as soon as that card gets negated, hes completely out of the picture, but as of now, europe still has to play ball with him on that one
>>65299263
>>65299280thanks
>>65299263>Please tell me you have the video of that. How long until Ruzzia goes full Mad Max?the mma one is better, the dude literally did a vandam high spin kick to the other ziglet then pummeled ground n pound style, ill have to look for it>gif relatedhe literally did some shit like that^ over a couple a litrs of petrol
>>65299280Look at these men, so eager to get sent to the front !
>>65298995they were undoubtedly targeting the buildings and got luck that most of the drones hit the antennas instead
>>65299220ziggers need to upgrade their clone brains because their current ones aren't very good
>>65299257Are you well poisoning? I'm not a zigger, throwing prompts through LLMs isn't facts or science, and posting the results onto the internet is just digital littering.TZD.
>>65299263>Please tell me you have the video of that.Forgot the shitter link, but here's a catbox:https://files.catbox.moe/x3jmfq.mp4
waiting in line for gas isn't so bad you can chill with friends and make new friends in the line too. maybe even some bum touching
>>65299355Why cant Dumbledore just make more fuel?
>>65299035you can pinpoint the moment he thought about spending the rest of his life in a gulag
>>65299259A Bong-Saudi company... which was actually a fucking letterbox company with literally no resources to develop anything, and which was trying to buy rights to the FP-5 from FirePoint.
fresh kino coming soon
>>65299247General Aviation is completely fucked within the next two months if nothing improves>Operators of light aircraft in Russia have begun experimenting with automobile gasoline as a substitute for traditional aviation fuel, responding to a growing scarcity and rising cost of aviation gasoline. According to a report by Russian media outlet Kommersant on June 22>Dmitry Toropov, CEO of LightAir, highlighted that access to aviation gasoline for small aircraft in Russia “has always been bad, but now it is getting worse.” At major airports, aviation gasoline is reportedly available only through select partners in cities such as Ufa and Volgograd. In other regions, operators are compelled either to transport fuel independently or rely on private flying clubs for supply.>Vadim Tsyganash, executive director of the aviation works association, noted that Russia’s aviation regulator has relaxed fuel supply requirements for light aircraft. With an official assessment certificate, certain planes are now permitted to use automobile gasoline instead of aviation-grade fuel>Some operators have replaced Rotax-912 engines with Chinese C100 analogues and initiated test flights using Euro-3 automobile gasoline. Early results from these tests indicate no immediate adverse effects on engine performance, although the limited accumulated flight time precludes definitive conclusions.>Nevertheless, experts caution that the use of unsuitable fuels can lead to engine detonation, diminished thrust, and accelerated contamination of exhaust systems. >Industry participants estimate that aviation gasoline reserves in some Russian regions may last only one to one and a half months, while operators still face approximately four more months of agricultural aviation activity—much of which may now rely on Euro-3 gasoline.>Association president Vladimir Antonov said airlines already spend more than a third of their costs on fuel, while the share is even higher in small aviation.
>>65299386Do they start using rocket boosters?
>>65299355The funniest part is they think this is going to stop soon. It's only going to get worse.
>>65299399That's mainly an issue for light aircraft with piston engines. Jet engines will take almost any type of fuel as long as it's not completely gunked up with shit.
>>65299416Yeah, rocket assisted takeoff. Means they can launch them from a rail welded to a Hilux, like all good cobbled together weapons. If you can't fire it from a Toyota product you need to go back to the drawing board.
>>65299436>ultra high sulfur content fuel>whatever shit they're not frantically sending to try and keep diesels running to keep logistics and agriculture afloatI'm going to say it is, in fact, going go to be completely gunked up with shit.
>>65299441>If you can't fire it from a Toyota product you need to go back to the drawing board."if you cant dodge it...RAM IT!"
>>65299000>30l per vehicleLook at this largesse, real Rossiyans have been dealing with 10l.
>>65299035Vsauce moved to Russia?
>>65299386God damn, they look so much like V1s. I never really gave them too much of a look.
>>65299136Two weeks
>>65299530>God damn, they look so much like V1sthats the meme>le ukro-nazis get and their V1 wunderwaffe>only this time its london shooting them at slavoids rather than nazis
>>65299181"...and then in a stroke of brilliance I asked it to think of the things it had not thought of!"
>>65299220Is there any limit to his unfathomable power?
>>65299355How long until fuel line rape?
>>65299619Probably already happened; the better question is if women were involved.
>>65299162You know the russians had all that stuff back during the cold war and still experienced multiple famines
>>65299223You dont think someone might be supplying them with target data>AIoh right, you dont think
>>65299136The most believable two weeks of the war.
>>65299259>Pretty sure I read somewhere that FP-5 were from a Bong-Saudi company?Other way around, a Sikh hustler who's been flipping companies and playing shell games with his brother to avoid paying taxes since the eighties has some licenses from the Saudis and keeps trying to get the Ukes to let him sell Flamingos. Problem is the Ukes' export laws still haven't been updated to let them actually do that, so he's been flogging The Concept of a Flamingo on his website for a year or so and dragging an increasingly ratty fiberglass scale model to arms shows in Europe.>b-but shadow funding from--No. They don't have it. They're broke as fuck. The Bongs aren't making the missiles or the huckster running Milanion would already have sold at least a couple for testing, or shown actual parts/components. Hell, the brochure on their site still has incorrect specs/pics of the missile.
>>65299116>i DID see 2 dudes have an MMA fight over some 97octaneit wasn't MMA, it was the Benzin Brawl Bonanza with Gay Khuysterio and Mr. Pidorana
>>65299355>no lip filler>no crying>had a reasonable plan>has friends>is dressed modestly but still cuteextremely rare wife material spotted
>>65299000In other news, the chocolate ration has been increased from 30g to 20g.
>>65299024And that lead time just got a lot worse because of Iran chimping out and shooting at literally all of their neighbours when they were attacked by only two countries that aren't even in the Gulf.
>>65299024>>65299056I think this guy is making a joke on OP's behalf since it smells vaguely of zigger nonsense
>>65298995Antennas as in, what is basically just a rod of metal attached to some wires and grounding? Not in any scope of functional damage. Literal retards can be instructed to wire a radio back up to a fucking light pole.Antennas as in, some kind of PESA or array unit, things with complex tunable capacitors, etc? Ranges from a mild operational inconvienence to a major cost and loss of function.
War noob here. If Ukraine has US satellite intel that is so good apparently they you can make out facial features, why don't they just drone all the AA Russia has in a massive raid to cripple them once and for all?
What happened to Russian drone dominance it had few years ago with all the cheap Iranian drones? Russia can't produce those?
>>65299339He just became a good Putinist, just the right amount of brain left in the head!
>>65299158>Unironically it won't be Russia that starves but thirdies and it might lead to wars.No woke mindset in EU to save the refugees this time :DI hope muslims suffer for their crimes against civilization. And after that, learn to fend for themselves instead of being useless dependents. Getting rid of russian influence is just a bonus in this context.
>>65299035>stop panicking!>quote by man in panic>>65299347Seriously, dude sounds like a out of touch boomer CEO who just heard about ChatGPT.
>>65299000>Belgorod gets fucked againWhy is Belgorod the designated whipping boy of the Russian Federation? Haven't they suffered enough?
>>65299136Not soon enough
>>65300284A relatively big city which is very close to the border
>>65300284I remind you that king Monke intentionally bombed Donetsk children with Oreshnik.He even told his serfs that they did it to "test" Oreshnik. Suffering Belgorod children don't even register in Monke's mind.
>>65299000Checked
>>65300284Anon, Belgorod's lucky. 30 litres is on the high end of fuel rationing.
>>65300259I believe the theoretical limit due to atmo diffraction is in the 5-10cm range and under perfect circumstances modern image processing can perform an educated guess into the 3-4cm scale but this means a pixel is really ~1.5 inches of size at best and realistically 2-3 or more. Basically an eyeball is just a solid block of color and no you can't actually see facial expressions.It's equivalent to something like a snes sprite character a face would be 15-30 pixels, no actual detail.
>>65300240>double holiday>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hls2fJ4Yuo
>>65299136In other words, similar material conditions to what lead to the ukrainian holodomor in the post ww2 soviet union.Ironic.>>65299627kek
>>65299530>>65299603to me it looks like a love child of the V1 and the Tu-141 strizh
>>65299035Look how panicked he gets when its implied what he's saying is slander against those in charge
>>65299116>the road-rage Russians will experience will result in the end of Putins regime ... i DID see 2 dudes have an MMA fight over some 97octane, so theres a definite "destabilization" at the DNA level in play here>>65299247>its going to be 28 days later in Moscow ... raging Russians will storm red square and eat him alive in a black swan event no one but us true believers saw comingIt's going to start with the women and it's going to be kino. Russian men might walk slowly to their deaths but Russian women are Nietzschean egoistka uberfrauen who didn't even know there was a war going on until last week, they were just collecting the death payments. Didn't know why those guys died or where, who cares. The hundreds of thousands of one-legged Russian men hobbling around town? Idk maybe their legs just do that. Russian woman too busy aiming forward in life, focused on the road. But now Anastasia can't fill up her G-Wagon no more, and someone is going to have to pay. Someone like Putin. BENT OVER ON RED SQUARE. https://youtu.be/d8-3ffuTTZ8
>>65300484Can confirm. Russian cosmopolitan women are deranged. They read Mein Kampf, quote Xenophon and then behead your favourite hamster because you didn't buy the overprized knick knack at TEDI for her.T. Skankknower
>>65300484>>65300690I really hope to see those whores collide HARD with the new reality. I mean "can you kill competenly enough to avoid literally getting eaten" hard.
You know, all this made me wonderdoes no one in Russia have electric vehicles? All their cars are from China and their EVs are very cheap
>>65300727EV's account for like 4% of car sales in russia, but "for some reason" it has increased the last month. EV sales kinda means having infrastructure for them, so its not strange that Snowgeria has a rather minor amount of them.
>>65298995Today internet exists so not really.
>>65300730Chinese long range PHEV make most sense in Russia.
>>65300727Why would you buy EV in a gas station country? Gas is historically dirt cheap there
>>65300732Moving to China makes most sense in Russia
>>65300727It'd be a hard market when the country runs on diesel and petrol, though I imagine there is some in the cities where people have a garage with some charging ports. Outside of that though its long distances on shit roads with fuck all chargers as the demand for them is extremely low.Plus there's the fun factorIt gets cold in Russia, sometimes its cold enough that your Li-ion batteries stop working! At around -20C there's going going to be simple failure to do very much in which case its time to get out the sled doggos or old fashioned fuel powered machine
>>65300747>It gets cold in Russia, sometimes its cold enough that your Li-ion batteries stop working!Is it worse than Norway?
>>65300749>Is Russia worse than Norway?In most ways.
>>65300749Norway is mostly coast and fjords. Coastal weather ensures that it won't go below -20C or so most winters. If you go a bit inland like Røros it can get much colder.
>>65299006You start fucking with your enemy's fuel, you fuck with their vehicles, which means their combat vehicles AND whatever is trucking in their supplies (this includes fuel trucks carrying more specialized fuel for their aircraft)
>>65300753Not if you ask Diesen and his cult
>>65300775>You start fucking with your enemy's fuel, you fuck with their vehiclesRussian fuel companies do the "fucking with their vehicles" part just fine, judging from the mysterious gas additives.
>>65300277retarded boomers and other assorted low-IQ's love AI because it relieves them of the duty to think themselves. which is strange because they used to be the people that told me not to believe everything i found on the internet.
>>65299399That’s probably not as huge of a deal as you think.Most semi-modern aircraft engines are perfectly capable of running on unleaded gasoline. Indeed, the US FAA is trying to phase out leaded gasoline entirely. The big stumbling blocks are A) there’s a shitload of planes in the US that aren’t even close to semi-modern, B) there is a lot of infrastructure for leaded gas, and switch over would be expensive, especially for podunk airports, and the FAA doesn’t want to foot the bill, and C) retarded bureaucracy.Plus, I can’t imagine the GA sector in Russia is particularly big to begin with.
>>65300749Pretty much!Thing with most electrical systems is there's ways of getting around the problems of operating temps like having the equivalent of a dual-cycle air conditioner. But for most of the battery types in E-Cars they tend to have a sweet spot between about 5 to 25C for optimal output, once you go +/- in temperature your efficiency drops way off until you get to about +45C when shit gets real sketchy and might run-away, or under about -20C when there's just not enough chemical activity to do much.Something to consider if you also use stuff like power-banks and the like for home, standalone power systems or if you're taking necessary equipment into a super cold/hot environment
>>65299441Isn't flamingo like 6 tons? I don't think anyone will be launching them from a hilux anytime soon
>>65300262They still spam them, but ukies adapted and they have their own early detection, tracking and warning system and a fucload of mobile teams
>>65299035>And they call us mystery meat.t. Amerifat
>>65299145>I consulted multiple AI's with high level military and economic simulations and this was the consensus virtually all of them hadYou are the AI.
>>65298995Both Hezbollah and idf were sending explosive after each others sensors so maybe
>>65299355Would... pump her gas.
>>65299416Always have.
>>65300749Sodium Ion batteries are already being made and chinks are pushing them into their own EVs so it's a matter of time before they become wide spread. They apparently hold up better in cold weather than certain lithium ion batteries (apparently there are different 'chemistries' of these sorts of batteries which was neat to learn)
multiple smoking incidents in the factory district of stavropol
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>>65299220>perfectly happy with their existence when they are told about what they’re created forWouldn't you be?
it begins
>>65299000According to Putin, Konstantniva has fallen. I'm sure this comes as no surprise to the Ukrainian troops still fighting within the city.
>>65300935>whole pallets hereRussians know about those?
>>65299035That faggot looks like a racist caricature of a jew.
>>65300950Even if its remotely true, advancing what, 15-18miles in 3 years? Not three days THREE (3) YEARS is not exactly the huge brag it would seem to be considering they needed a massive surge of troops they're already short of, being fucked in the logistics tail and murdered non-stop by drones 1000+ a day casualtiesI wouldn't tell anyone!
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>>6530095260% of the people in Russia look like the NSDAP-era Germany caricatures of various ethnic groups.
>42.74% of russia's refinery capacity is offline50% when?
>>65299158Aren’t Ukraine and Russia the biggest grain suppliers to the Middle East?
>>65300933He really looks like og Wojak here.
>>65300980
>>65300731Not for Russia lol
>>65300979YeahBut its not like no one's ever eaten their neighbour in the middle east or north africaJust a return to tradition
>>65300979Have these countries ever been able to feed themselves?
>>65301019Before the Mongols came along and wrecked a good chunk of their farmland they probably had an easier time of it.
>>65300971Maybe the old racists were just better at capturing ethnics?
>>65301025how do you wreck a framland
>>65301025OK, sitting in a pile of ruins and going 'woe is us allah save us' has not worked for the last 700 years or so.Did they try actually rebuilding the irrigation systems?
>>65301025The fuck? Last time the Mongols were in the middle east was sometime in the 1300's and it was a sandy shithole full of inbred goat fuckers then, just exactly like it is now!
>>65301040Occupy it or salt it.
>>65298995This kind of thing happens after you bomb all the primary military targets but Lockheed Martin still needs to make money. That's why Trump was talking about "Bridge Day" in IranThey blew up all the obvious shit and the targeting guys were just like>Well, a soldier could walk across that bridge, so it's a military target.I think comms antennas are way higher up on that list since they can be used to collect intelligence and comman troops in the feild, but what do the Ukrainians care? It's not their munitions.
>>65300933Why is captain Picard sad?
>>65300951KNOWN TECHNOLOGY
>>65301215There are only three eggs..
>>65301019Ukraine and Russia have good soil and always overproduce. There’s a reason Ukraine is called the breadbasket of Europe
>>65301215When you find out you're the primitive screw heads the Prime Directive says not to interact with
>>65301215>Captain Monk-Cube Zigard>Your honor, the ukraine is a cauldron; in it, we burn away mobiks until we are left with a purer product: the cube, for all time. Now sooner or later, this clone – or others like him – will succeed in replicating Commander Boris Johnson.
>>65300935what a sad state of that machine shop
>>65300951For some retarded reason, the zigger military doesn't use them, but it's not complete lostech for the civ sector. I guess it's just more manly for mobiks to manhandle unwieldy crates all the way through the logistic chain to the front lines. Or maybe ziggers just can't get forklifts where they're needed so pallets are kind of useless.
>>65301375It's like with gasoline: mobik menial labor is an ubiquitous free resource. Why waste money (that you can pocket) on expensive gear, its maintenance, and regular checks that it's still there and unstolen, when you can just order the faggots in green to haul crates by hand? It's not like they have anything to do anyway, and too much free time breeds discontent.Whether this is a good solution in a situation where you need to transport large quantities of gear quickly and effectively is irrelevant, since nothing ever happens.
>>65298995>is degrading your enemies comms infrastructure useful?GEE IDK BILL
>>65300690I saw a video of a gas station catfight the other day and this one woman was like "I'll knock your teeth out you bitch, did you sick dick to pay for those." I was, like, damn. It's going to go down for sure. They look like Paris Hilton but talk like Cardi B.
>>65300843>>And they call us mystery meat.Anon, there is absolutely no mystery about that particular Russoid mutt. It is 146% kosher. It is so kosher it volunteers at the local bris factory.
>>65301221you image reminded me of the little drug monkey that was shot and now I'm sad
>>65300727Why have electric vehicles when petrol is basically free.Importing is expensive for Russia, that low GDP per capita outside of PPP makes importing anything unnatainable for most Russians.
>>65300951Russian bombs are caged in some weird lobster trap looking device
>>65300727The trouble you are going to have is that the electricity supply is going to start to get sketchy with the Ukies taking the odd pot shots at power transformers and substations to mess with the industrial capacity of an area. So an EV would be beneficial if you only live and work in or near a city or large town; but as the power grid starts to shit the bed, it may become too costly or impractical to keep an EV going if it's anything larger than a scooter or bike, as you'll need to rely on backup generators for consistent and reliable long-term charging.
>>65298995>retard hereWe know.>are antennas valuable military targets?>sending dozens of dronesYou answered your own question, retard. The antenna control aircraft, like drones. Using a drone attack to stop enemy drone attacks is a valid strategy. Christ this board is full of fucking idiots lately. Someone shill /k/ on /r/weapons again?
>>65300792>which is strange because they used to be the people that told me not to believe everything i found on the internet.Boomers (well gen silent preboomers, just as bad) 30 years ago:"Internet is just a program that you run in your computer! I dont get what the fuss is about! We already have fax machines if I want to send a quick mail message to someone!"Boomers today: "AI told me that so it must be true! You think you are smarter than this state of the art AI? Ha! I am the smart one here, the AI told me so!". A large segment of the population would be starving to death because of stupidity if we had to endure living like it was 1776 again. "What, you stick potatoes into the ground and then you get more potatoes a couple of months later? You mean, they are like alive or something?"
>>65299205Wells will break if there is no where for the oil to goIe they dont need to
>>65301019Its called the fertile crescent for a reason anonUnfortunately the region was intensively farmed in the time back before we knew about soil depletion and shit so now it's just a desert, but back in the day it fed the Roman Empire
>>65302024The Hangover?
>>65305619The fertile crescent does not contain Egypt and the Nile which is what fed the Roman Empire
>>65300262Russia still outproduces Ukraine in terms of raw number of systems, but the Ukies are better both at playing defence and landing hitsThat's not timely that the ukies aren't producing absolutely massive amounts of drones, they are and they are still scaling up, but for now Russia is making more
>>65305630Egypt was important too but I assure you the fertile crescent played a critical role, particularly during the civil wars that occurred in the last stages of Romes democratic decline
>>65305629this one
>>65305619Well, that was 2000 years ago, and the climate around the Med was a lot more rainy and somewhat cooler back then.
>>65305681Goddammit, the last thing we need in this stupid timeline is another Harambe.
>>65305642Not for long. Their entire industry is about to crash hard.>But muh fuel will get send to industrySo how is Pidor Pidorovich supposed to go to work if there is no gas for his car?Its ogre and its only going to get worse.
>>65306546>supposed to go to work if there is no gas for his carBy walking to the factory?
>>65306553how are the raw materials supposed to get to the factory and finished goods sent out without gas?
>>65306559Haven't you heard, Czar Putin has ordered fuel imported from India and ChinaThe shipments from mighty puccia's BRICS allies will set things right
>>65301240I meant the Arab countries.Also, Russia's grain production might look at a slight harvesting fuel shortage this year.
>>65306559On a cart pulled by Pidor Pidorovich.
>>65301054Some anthropologists did a sruvey in afghanistan some time ago and basicslly came to the conclusion, that the mongol invasion altered a lot of the climate in the ME because the wrecked irrigation systems built up over centuries. Like dirverting rivers, wrecking canals and so on. Things never recovered.
>>65306688Turns out tribal islamic societies are really bad at being an actual civilization.Weird how they lived on what 2500 years of Persians and even proto-Persians built, and thought 'we built this'
>>65306688Got any links to read up?
>>65306746A History of the Arab Peoples by Albert Hourani wad my goto book to read about it.
>>65299229>a week of fuel shortage and Crimea looks worse than Tarkov>Nikita's Russia 2028 is not fiction but a Nostradamus predictionWhat kit will you bring into the Muscowite exclusion zone?
>>65301375>implement pallets into army logistics >system immediately breaks down due to homo sovieticus shenanigans>you are now guilty of that initiative >also your cronies hate you for not just embezzling the money
>>65300262Russia makes more drones, but their absolutely wretched logistics means they can't activate them as rapidly as Ukraine.
>>65299799You gotta be pretty hardcore to wrestle on plain gravel.
>>65299229Lets go cunt
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>>65308867Holy shit, a zigger Juri Han at the beginning
>>65308916And Mario Zigger making sure Pidorasha Peach doesn't get their shit destroyed too badly
>>65299035>there is gas>they put in 10 liters>you dont even need that muchlmao, i hope it gets so much worse the russiod untermensch doesnt deserve better
>>65309008That's the fun part, this is their new normal. Its always going to be this bad or much worse paying their $15 gallon and getting their cock stomped in a bowser biffo
>>65299355the russiod yearns for the brea...gas line
>>65299035>so authorities are bad? >no, not the authorities! Lmao, I wonder if it's how he genuinely thinks or he just realized he is about to get gulaged.
>>65308867I think we're going to start seeing more of this the longer the fuel shortage goes on and it's basically everywhere in the RF now.I don't know what the actual numbers on what they have in total gasoline storage capacity are but even if they had an ample supply their distribution of it just can't keep up, so whatever they have left might as well be on the moon.
>>65308867What was Mario doing?
>>65309070It's going to get much, much worse now that Omsk is offline (10% of total production in the so-called RF).
>>65309115>Tom Clancy was right againIncredible
What gas plants or storage facilities are there left to hit in Russia?
>>65309221A place called Angarsk or something like that houses a big refinery.
>>65309221Angarsk, near the border with Mongolia.
>>65300830Hilux has a 3.5 metric tonne towing
>>65309221orphanage in donbabwe
>>65309111Looks like an employee. So that’s very much a “my boss said I have to come and deal with this, but it’s not really my problem so I’m going to stand here and watch until it’s over”Source: have looked like that in the past. Just with a less gay outfit
>>65299006yes but they're not fucked up good enough. should've been obliterated, each>>65298995>are antennas valuable military targets?almost always >>65299136the proles will do manual labor. ruzge are like cockroaches, but not in virtuous human resilience way, but in lowest maintenance stockholm syndrome slave way
>>65301298Cleaning is bitch work. If you clean up after yourself or others you might as well knock out your own teeth, drop your pants, and bend over before someone else forces you.It's very similar to India. Similar levels of rape, but all of it gay.
>>65299006Jesus Christ, it just keeps going.
>>65299053Fucking hell.
russia should just pull out anti-gravity propulsion they've been sitting on from ayylmaos
>>65305681I always wonder whatever happen to that monkey that choose cocaine over sex; now we know.
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>>65309221Within range of Ukrainian Deep Strikes? Very little. Ukraine will most likely have the refineries that are within range on some sort of rotational targetting program. I hope Ukraine continues to hit satellite comm sites as well as start to hit Russia's various Cosmonaut launch sites.
>>65309562Violence at the bowsers could get pretty spicy if someone is holding a nozzle, I'd want to keep an eye on it but not get involved if I could avoid it.
>>65309225>>65309240>>65310397Doesn't Ukraine have naval drones that launch air drones now? They should just sail something over to the Pacific and let it loose there. There's so much empty territory you could fly something for hours before any person sees it
>>65310815>Doesn't Ukraine have naval drones that launch air drones now?They do, but not the type of drones you want hitting refineries
>>65310687>Violence at the bowsersIf only Princess Putin knew...
>>65308867Is that trump outside the car in the third video?
>>65311160I don't think he'd be that brave in all honestyGood news for holidaymakers in Crimea, the power is back on...
>>65309240>>65309225>Angarsk
>>65311590What am I looking at? Blue=damaged refineries, yellow=undamaged?
>>65299116>>"potentially war losing, regime ending and possibly balkanizing event for the nation that will result in the shattering of their economy as they scramble decades of losttech to replace it (and fail) thereby causing the entire country to become economically insolvent, hyper-inflation and the couping of the sitting regime 2 weeks?
>>65312193yellow markers indicating sites recently hit and blue markers representing other refinery locations.
>>65298995Depends on the antenna. The old fashion dishes? Only if you've got nothing else to shoot at. Newer AESA style phased arrays? Hell yes!
>>65299355I don't even understand the point. Why bother? If you're going to waste a massive portion of your week trying to buy low grade gas for your tiny tank that will need refueling next week, aren't you better off just walking or taking the bus to places you need? Wtf is the point, just to have it?
>>65301240Not always. Somehow they have, on multiple occasions, mismanaged themselves into famine.
>>65301375I read up on this. Apparently there is three main reasons:1. Sunk cost fallacy. They have all their old Soviet bullshit in heavy wooden boxes and all their storage systems are based on that. They would have to change over to a new system and retrofit all their stuff. Russians are lazy.2. For pallets you need special trucks, new warehouses, new forklifts, new cranes, etc.. that shit is expensive and Russia is broke. They COULD have modernized but that would have required them to shrink one of their vastly oversized but underfunded army, airforces, navy, or nuclear forces. Basically pride. They had to LARP as a great power which meant no money for actual upgrades. 3. The downside of not using pallets is you create a bunch of extra work. In a conscript system with lots of men with little to do during peace, the downsides arent as immediately apparent. The conscript system had a ton of drawbacks but once you decided to do it anyway, you minimized a lot of the downsides. At least in peacetime. It is only when you run out of men and the extra work bottlenecks your forces that you realize your mistake. Basically theyre just fucking lazy, poor, ignorant, and prideful losers.
>>65313182Hoarding. It is built into our DNA. For once it is not just Russians who do this. As soon as we hear of shortages we all try to get "ours" and let some other loser be the one to suffer.Even if it isnt logical. You have to realize Anon, they may not be ANY gas next week. They have no way of knowing. They just want to have enough for emergencies and for unavoidable trips. Even before the gas crisis they were probably walking and using transit as much as possible. Russia does pretty well for transit in major centers but they starve everything else of even basics. Russia is like a poor African country. Some of them probably have no way of getting groceries and other basics without a car.
>>65312193>What am I looking at? Blue = refineries hit at least onceYellow = as yet untouchedI think this was made directly after the Omsk hit.
30 more days of refinery destruction to come. I wonder if they’ll run out of targets.
>>65313821They'll probably shrek all oil ports, too.
>>65313871Please Ukraine.
>>65313871They need to hit more factories, airfields, and military harbors
>>65299339>>ziggersI know what board your from.
>>65313821Start targeting grain silos and farming equipment, that's when the real show starts
>>65316484ukraine has been stockpiling their bioengineered birds for this
>>65316484>Start targeting grain silos and farming equipment, that's when the real show startsThat's a bit too directly war crimey. Indirectly causing the same effect by starving farms and trucking of fuel is just a side-effect of attacking the revenue funding Russia's war machine.
>>65316484would probably lose allied support
>>65299223Kill yourself ai jeet
>>65313821They'll probably never run out of targets. As long as there are russian troops on ukrainian soil there will need to be a logistics chain to reinforce, feed and arm them.When they run out of refineries to hit they'll probably just switch to rail and truck infrastructure and also hit more military industrial facilities.
>>65316484Why bother? just keep going after oil storage, refineries, oil/gas terminals, and tankers.
>>65317785TZD means TZD, simple as>>65316735Alternative targets: snow ploughs during autumn, that ought to cripple russia for good
>>65299035>"So you say the authorities are lying?">"Uhhh no, no, it's the people who lie."Levels of buckbreaking hitherto unseen.
>>65317785Only so many of those targets left.
>>65318909>snow ploughs during autumn, that ought to cripple russia for goodTechnically, the goal is to cripple Russia's war machine, anything beyond that is just a tragic side effect of that and not an intended outcome.
>>65317783>When they run out of refineries to hitRussia needs the money, so those refineries will be repaired or substituted and there will always be new targets there, so there's an upkeep cost to suppressing the oil.What I mean is that the target list doesn't just get flushed, it's whack-a-mole and only buys time. So there's an upper limit to the amount of targets that can be destroyed/suppressed because if you overextend then there gaps where you don't have the resources to monitor for/respond to the enemy restoring capability. I doubt they'll ever really stop hitting oil infrastructure.
>>65317783>switch to railRussian long distance rail is diesel isn't it?So hitting the oil, defeats both rail and truck infrastructure already.
>>65316484Nah. Too dispersed, too numerous. Sending logistics to a screeching halt by hitting the fuel infrastructure is way more efficient.
>>65298995>are antennas valuable military targets?Yes, the radios they connect to are important. It is worth it even if the only accomplishment is temporary communication disruption.>sending dozens of drones to knock them out doesn't seem like the best use caseDrones are cheap, lives are not. Penny pinching in war is about selecting the most important targets and using the maximum amount of ammunition on them. It does not mean you don't attack enemy targets.An enemy headquarters that cannot communicate is a valuable military advantage.
>>65299339so they do have brainshohols btfo once again
>>65299339I wonder how long the zigger got to experience that before fading to nothing
>>65322652>Russian long distance rail is diesel isn't it?Well, kinda. The MAIN main lines are electrified, but quite a lot of the not-quite-so-main lines are not.if you consulthttps://www.openrailwaymap.org/And switch to 'electrification' you can see for yourself.It's almost hilarious, the parts of Ukraine they occupied use 3kV, while the Russiasn net it connectgs to is 25kV.Not like it matters anymore, trains througfh Donbas and Melitupol are probably a no go at this point, and I expect the electrical system to be shut down.It'll be diesels all teh way.>So hitting the oil, defeats both rail and truck infrastructure already.Not quite, locomotives can carry fuel for days.OTOH, a rail line is pretty easy to observe and to interdict.
>>65299136Russia still has collective farms?
>>65313249In this case it's the prudent thing to do. Not all shortages are equal. Something like TP during covid was a massive demand spike relative to actual consumption brought on by fearmongering and paranoia but production and distribution were untouched, in this case you've got both a supply collapse and distribution breakdown.
>>65299006A couple of reasons.The first is one of Russia's biggest exports is Oil and Gas so its how they fund their war of aggression against Ukraine.It's been relatively steady until trump started another war by attacking Iran and threw the global oil market into chaos. And on top of that, trump also lifted sanctions of Russian oil, meaning they were looking to make a windfall in profit from the current crisis and use that to further fund their war of aggression. And they were doing that as you can see from the massive spike in March. This is why refineries and transports are such valuable targets, and why Ukraine has been heavily targeting them. Since if russian cannot refine and transport their oil, they can't sell it, no sales, means no money. And no money means it's harder to conduct their war of aggression against Ukraine. Which is why the price immediately dropped againAnd the drones are relatively cheap compared to the damage they do. And even then, it would still be worth it to knee cap the Russian war effort.The fact it also helps demoralize Russian civilians by bringing the cost of the war to their door steps without putting them in direct danger is a major bonus as well.
>>65322652>>65322812Has everyone forgotten about the fact that Russian trains cant get spare parts? They relied heavily on foreign parts and expertise to properly run their rail lines, Ukraine, for a little while, was destroying russian trains and shit. I dont think the rail-based logistical system is in much better shape than their other methods of transport.
>>65323285Honestly I feel like those are the easiest local or chinese replacement bits to find.Ball bearings I mean, might be expensive but it's not that difficult to makeshift with extensive effort.
>>65299136Never, or at least, only Russian vassal states in Africa will starve.
>>65316735I will remind you that Russia already did and does this to Ukrainian grain silos.
>>65321775Yeah but if you get the number of refineries, terminals and storage tanks down to zero then you've effectively kicked the rich parts of Russia back into the pre-industrial age.
>>65323285>Has everyone forgotten about the fact that Russian trains cant get spare parts? They relied heavily on foreign parts and expertise to properly run their rail linesThis is only 100% true for the high speed rail, they essentially use a copy of the German ICE from Siemens.They can maintain their stock of Soviet-era diesel and electric locomotives, and the rolling stock.These are 70s-era shitboxes, but they will be able to keep them runnig for fucking ever.They WILL lose reliability, comms, electronic coordination equipment etc., eventually, but to be frank they already go slow as fuck anyway, and their whole system is used to shit reliability and breakdowns.This means freight movement is slow, and will get slower. Throughput will suffer even more.The whole system will not collapse, but it will not be able to take over from road transport, especially not anywhere near the front.Ukraine could go and hit rail bridges in the same areas they are hitting refineries right now. They just do not do it because tehy very much want to avoid direct civillian deaths.Same with striking river/canal locks.
>>65322618>tragic side effect>not an intended outcomeSince when?
>>65298995antennafag hereyesthey transmission equipment destroyed likely was worth somewhere in the range of 10-50 millionand rebuilding will take 2-6 months.... not accounting for sanctions
>>65316484Why bother when the farm equipment and silos are non operational due to fuel shortages?It's more effective to just keep doing what they're doing and blow up ships and refineries. Less of a war crime too.
>>65323772>Since when?Since western voters have opinions that matter.
>>65300919specifically sodiums handle down to -40c without losses which is great unless you live in Siberia AND you didn't already put it indoors
>>65300236I can agree with that, they really should target tel aviv instead
>>65316484They should just start blowing up substations in mainland russia too, they are pretty much irreplaceable assets and shutting the lights off in the whole country disables the whole (war) economy overnightWould quickly bring an end to to this
>>65325401>unironically thinking that the west isn't an oligarchy
>>65326595We do get to vote for one of the oligarch fighting each other