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This is a thread dedicated to discussing anything and everything related to the OG American Army. What they wore, what they ate, how they fought, what they fought for, you get the idea.

I guess I'll start the discussion with what might be a silly question. How many on the Patriot side actually served for the entire duration of the war? Like, if you were serving in the Continental Army at Yorktown in 1781, what were your chances of encountering a survivor of Lexington and Concord, or Bunker Hill in the ranks? Was it common or did they have a constant stream of newfags coming and going? Eight years is a long time to dedicate your life to a cause at the expense of everything else, and must've been even longer even back then when you had half the average lifespan of a person today.
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>>65303232
>How many on the Patriot side actually served for the entire duration of the war?
The first enlistment periods were limited to one year. In 1776 three year enlistment periods and even "whole duration of the war" enlistment periods were established to prevent the recruitment crisis of the early Continental Army. But I couldn't find any numbers on how many actually chose the ""whole duration of the war" enlistment period or how many repeatedly enlisted.
Probably the most well known soldier to serve for the whole duration of the war was Joseph Plumb Martin.
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>single-handedly defeats Britain and saves America
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Forgot the image lmao
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>>65303232
how big was the Continental Army at its peak?
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>>65304748
~50k
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>>65303232
I saw a reenactment of the siege of Yorktown at Versailles of all places today. It was for the 4th because of all the French troops. I only saw the skirmish in the morning and not the full battle.
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>>65304823
And the natives were in red face which I thought was pretty based
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>>65304782
hard to imagine the american army was ever that small
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>>65304823
Did they trace that guy for that The Virgin meme?
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>>65304868
>>65304823
This might be the most based thing France has done this century.
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>>65303232
>when you had half the average lifespan of a person today.
how there are still people who don't understand this baffles me. If you survived childhood, you had the same lifepan as a modern person (70s-90s).
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>>65306530
There were Englishmen doing the redcoats and I spoke to one American but they were living in England. I didn't over here any Americans.

>>65306595
There was a whole themed event for America's 250th at Versailles. Reenactments and stuff in the gardens and an exhibition in the palace.

>>65306581
Slaves and cotton? I don't get it tho
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>>65304823
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>>65306643
Not the same, no, it was still lower.
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>>65307890
>>65306581
jej
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>>65307890
Lol
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>>65303232
>back then when you had half the average lifespan of a person today.
That's accounting for infant mortality, retard.
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>>65303591
>>65303593
Googled it and that's pretty based.
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>>65307890
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>>65303232
>you had half the average lifespan of a person today.
That's because there were more wendigos back then, retard. George Washington personally killed several.
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I've enjoyed reading and listening to stuff about the Battle of Bunker Hill. George Washington hadn't shown up yet, and there was quite a bit of uncertainty and miscommunication among the American militia groups.

The British set Charles Town on fire with artillery because there were guys in the town sniping out of buildings.

Also interesting is that people in Boston climbed up on their roofs to watch the ongoing battle across the water.

Factors that influenced the battle included the June heat, the low supplies of water and ammo that the colonists had, and the fact that Prescott's men worked through the night to build an earthen redoubt (fort).

There are several good videos, but I like this one.

https://youtu.be/FcfzpwlYUZU
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>>65307890
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blue and buff is a fucking neat color scheme that is unfortunately impossible to use with modern uniforms without looking retarded.
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>>65311062

Was there any hope of the Americans actually holding the ridge or would the British have simply kept attack Zerg-rushing them to drive them off?
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>>65306595
>reenactment of the siege of Yorktown at Versailles
>redface
I now renounce my hatred of Fr... no I don't Based though.
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>>65314749

The third and final assault was literally with walking wounded because the British couldn’t find enough fresh men. It absolutely could have fallen apart if the Colonials had brought up more supplies.
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>>65304823

Cool
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>>65303580

Were enlistment durations actually honored or would they regularly find excuses to invalidate them?
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>>65303232
How detrimental was the South to the American Revolution given they were not only the reluctant colonies to join the war, but apparently, the colonists in the south used the war to settle old scores between themselves to the point there were more battles between colonists in the south, than battles between the continental army and British.
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>>65323884
They were and this was by design. Congress feared that the army could become a standing army and thus short enlistment periods were desired even if those brought with them the problem of keeping the army together for the next year.
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>>65323902

t. New Yorker who spent 2/3rds of the war licking British boots
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Ignorant Europoor here
I have a question for the ameriburgers : Between the Continentals and the militias, who played the most instrumental role in your war of independence ?
When I look at movies and the Internet, it seems like the Brits were defeated by a bunch a regtag farmers with hunting rifles and little else. I have my doubts
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Did the uniforms get standardized across the Continental army as the war progressed, like what happened in the ACW, with every regiments eventually adopting the famous blue/white/red uniform commonly associated with the Continentals in pop culture ?
Did the Continental army even ever managed to equip all of its soldiers with standard uniforms during the war, or did logistical and financial constraints prevent that ?
Also, which State had the best looking uniforms ?
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It is often said the war in the North was more similar to the European style of warfare, while the South saw more guerilla warfare. How true is that?
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The Americans had the best looking regimental battle flags
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>>65326825
yes
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>>65326806

>Between the Continentals and the militias, who played the most instrumental role in your war of independence ?

The Continental Army, and it's not even a question when you look at the the under-performance of the Patriot militia.

>When I look at movies and the Internet, it seems like the Brits were defeated by a bunch a regtag farmers with hunting rifles and little else. I have my doubts

It's all part of the great American myth making. And your disbelief in this story is correct. The militia were notoriously unreliable, and many Continental Army commanders such as Washington considered them more of a liability than an asset. They would often break during combat from the slightest amount of pressure given to them by British regulars and Hessian auxiliaries. And their desertion rate was high, militiamen would come in and out of service depending on the state of the conflict, meaning that they weren't even good at providing force multiplication as their numbers were often nebulous.

The only Continental Army commander who recognized their usefulness was Nathanael Greene. But that was more out of necessity, as the Continental Army in the South was severely lacking in trained professional soldiers. Independent militia and guerrilla bands, often operated without any organization and coordination. Greene was able to organize and coordinate the militia bands, in conjunction with regular units, as part of his Fabian strategy to reduce the British forces in the South by attrition.
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>>65326781
Don't boo me because I'm right.
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>>65326825
>Did the uniforms get standardized across the Continental army as the war progressed, like what happened in the ACW

After they started getting French support yeah but it was still common to see civilian clothes and captured uniforms being used in their place.
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>>65326831

The South was split right down the middle over independence so a lot of the guerrilla warfare started as communal violence with both sides going innawoods and forming death squads hunting each other down.
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>>65303232
i stand with the British!!
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British Rise up!
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Why do /pol/tards have a fetish for spamming the revolutionary war? Because Russian psyops have been telling them bongs bad and “plz do a revolution” do divide nato?? It could not be more transparent.
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>>65340070
>why does a primarily American image board celebrate the seminal event of American history
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>>65303232
>dying so some rich assholes didn’t have to pay taxes

Was this really what the average Continental Army soldier was fighting for?
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>>65344947

Yes that was exactly what they were fighting for
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>>65307890

Ouch!
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>>65303232

One of my ancestors was at Yorktown. Unfortunately I don’t know much about him except that he lived well into his 80s and wound up dying in an early train wreck (kinda weird to think a survivor of the Revolution lived long enough to see the emergence of railroads
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>>65351507
my grandfather whom mowed down russians with a mg 42 lived long enough to see them getting droned down
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>>65351517

Based Wehrmacht grandpappy
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>yesterday was the last day the American military was sovereign

Well, we had a good run.
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>>65354488

Huh
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>>65340070
>If you find the Revolutionary war cool and interesting.
>You are a Russian shill
>muh /pol/
Seriously seek help you faggot. Either you are some retarded Eurofag, shitskin retard or both. No shit an American Image board focused around firearms would discuss the war that started this beautiful country. Now go back to your tranny discords and cry about Russia there.
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>>65355877
Section 219 was agreed to via reconciliation. America's military is now officially, and legally, Israel's military.
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>>65340070
Idiotic question, might as well ask why do Brits like reading about Nelson at Trafalgar or the Duke of Wellington in Spain. It's just a cool piece of our military history.
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>>65357091
Surely this is a typically exaggerated headline or something, surely it's not THAT bad
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>>65357164
It's the integration between the two militaries and intelligence services, and also appoints a specific person in the government to oversee the transfer of military assets and intelligence that Congress does not get to appoint nor can they remove. This is just a means to allow them to direct that singular individual to give t
Israel whatever they want and act as a go-between for endless SMO's and facilitating classified intelligence. The person who this would be under the current government is likely Hegseth or Rubio. It's literally over.
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>>65357091

Does that mean Israel is our military too?
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>>65360802

Yes
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Given that its drill and organization were created entirely by von Steuben, the Continental army .... was entirely Prussian in character
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>>65366426

They also started actually winning battles after that point
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>>65340070

It's literally the formative event of American history you retard
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>>65351507
>kinda weird to think a survivor of the Revolution lived long enough to see the emergence of railroads


Thats nothing.

There were civil war veterans who lived long enough to see nuclear weapons.
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>>65326806
The army all day long, the militias were shit (on both sides)
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>>65351507
Man you should look into the life of Ernst Junger if you think that's a leap
Man went from a time without common running water or electricity, through both world wars, the cold war, and died in the internet era
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>>65303232
The Rebel side had a daily ration of 1lb of Beef(salted or fresh) or 3/4 lb of pork or 1lb of fish. 1lb of bread/hardtack or even just flour. Early on they had 1 quart of beer/cider or a ration of molasses so they could make their own beer. Per week they got a ration of rice/cornmeal/vinegar/butter. For dessert they had something called Orange Fool
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BORN IN A BAR! Lets go raid some random fucking Island for gunpowder in the Bahamas gents.
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>>65373800
>Army
>Ever being the best
>Meanwhile Continental Marines
>2,000 troops
>3 major battles won against British
>49 dead 70 wounded through the entire war
Yeah you wish.
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>>65373882
>major battles
>2,000 troops
>49 dead 70 wounded

They obviously weren't major battles
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>>65373815
>salted or fresh
>fresh

I kinda doubt it was usually that fresh.
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>>65373844
>BORN IN A BAR

*Tavern
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>>65303232
I'm curious, why were they pushed aside in popular narrative compared to the Minutemen?
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>>65366426
Prussian and French mainly
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>>65381061
>>65329172
This is a fairly recent development btw. The Minutemen were always well known, but for most of American history, both popular culture and even the understanding of many laypeople focused primarily on Washington's Continental Army as the defining military force of the Revolutionary War. Starting around the 1970s however, libertarianism became increasingly influential among many conservatives, bringing with it an inherent distrust of government institutions, including the military. In that context the citizen militias came to be seen as symbols of armed citizens resisting government overreach, ordinary people who, with guns and determination, could stand up to any professional Army and they'd point Vietnam as proof.
At the same time parts of the American left embraced the Minutemen for a different reason, portraying them as symbols of resistance against European tradition and hierarchy, reflecting the idea that America was inherently opposed to entrenched authority, tradition and nobility rule.
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>>65381178
samefag, This clip of George Lucas is a good example of what many Boomers and Gen Xers genuinely believed about military conflict. Due to various popular misconceptions, they thought that any professional Army could be defeated by farmers and everyday people with guns if they had enough determination.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HDJyAapsLJw
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>>65303232
what was going on Florida?
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>>65303232
Plenty of equipment (uniforms, cash, muskets and ammo) were given by Spain, even british ones dyed gray iirc after the capture of the 1780 convoy
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>>65382458

Refused to join the rest of the 13 Colonies owing to their only very recent annexation by Great Britain
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>>65381061

Your average American can, at best, name five major engagements of the Revolutionary War

>Lexington
>Concord
>Bunker Hill
>Trenton
>Saratoga
>Yorktown

Of these, three took place in the opening two months and were exclusively fought by Minutemen (the Continental Army was only established on paper three days prior to the Battle of Bunker Hill), the fourth was fought almost exclusively by the Continental Army, the fifth saw extensive participation by Minutemen in the initial engagement and is widely regarded as the most critical battle of the war, and the sixth had nearly half of the Americans present be members of the Virginia Militia (albeit did not participate in the fighting and were used as a rearguard).

In short, militias were there for the very first and very last engagements of the war and thus got a disproportionate amount of the attention and the glory and largely overshadowed the Continental Army, which spent most of the war fighting the lesser-known battles.



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