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Ergonomics edition

Target(s) of the month for July. Shoot some redcoats. If you pass the first one, try the second.
https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/kloq65.pdf

Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik

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>>65319814
Brother eww
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>>65319814
WTF is this OP!?
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>>65319825
>>65319829
there are you happy now
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You WISH you had the money to be this Gucci
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>>65319837
XD glock hybrid
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>>65319814
OP is a nigger
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Gunbroker find of the day, a stainless/brushed nickel? German P229 .40 magazine. A steal at $50.
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>>65319862
Looks like NP3 coating which is a aerospace nickel PVD coating
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Forty Five
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>>65319862
>$50
You got a P299 for $50? WTF congratulations
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>>65319875
The one on the left is a very shiny nickel coating that is flaking off. The new one could be NP3. My first PD issue gun was a 1989 P228 which tb dept. sent back to Sig to have the slides coated in NP3.
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>>65319889
No just (1) mag. Sadly. Kek
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>>65319572
$142 a month? That is more than he spends on ammo in a year. I can’t even post from PC anymore this is ridiculous. This site will be completely dead soon.
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>>65319825
Do you not have the 5.56 glock? Ngmi
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>>65319937
>Glock
Brother eww
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>>65319862
How tf did u get it for $50?
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>>65319932
>I can’t even post from PC anymore this is ridiculous.
Every time I try to post from my shitter at home it makes me wait 60 seconds. Terrible.
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>>65319932
>he can’t access /vip/
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>>65319912
>different markings on them
which are the temu ones
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Tell me why I shouldn’t preorder the Colt acro for my Ruger MK4.
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>>65319857
>the 'ech
Is this the pantyboy gun?
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It's not in comic sans.

I was lied to.
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Alright what do you guys think of this upper/lower combo
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>>65320058
Put it on a p01.
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>>65319932
>>65319983
I have never had an issue with the new captcha on mobile or desktop. I'm convinced I'm just a better poster than anyone complaining and you guys should stop being faggots.
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>>65320011
>cylinder gun
>cube optic
Really negro? Lern2pair
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>>65320084
It just started today. Think what you want, I might be free of this place soon.
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>>65320085
My hunting guns are plain and boring. I wanted an enclosed red dot, and the colt isn’t much more than a holosun.
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>>65320096
Whats stopping you from just leaving now, forever.l?
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/k/ tells me that the best 22 LR pistol to get is either a ruger or a buck because muh grandpappy did and so did his grandpappy

youtube tells me the best 22 LR pistol is one of those miniaturized real guns, that's flimsy and falls apart. the rationale being you need to develop a reflex for quickly recognizing a malfunction and taking corrective action, preferably on a gun that resembles the one you'll carry. so once you move on to the 9mm or whatever, the one that actually works 99% of the time, you'll be better equipped to deal with the failures in an emergency

who is right?
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>>65320163
Neither
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>>65320173
that looks like it would be a nice gift for your local chinese restaurant tycoon slash underworld figure, I will make a mental note of this for later
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Do you guys like star handguns?
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>>65320192
I like the Star 30M I got for $200, even if it does need a new extractor and they are nonexistant
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If I have my FFL order me something specific, does that negate the usual transfer fees that come with having something sent to my FFL from gunbroker, for example?
>inb4 ask your FFL
I'm just curious what's the norm.
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>>65320263
Not if its a big box store and its on their website already
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>>65320263
In my experience yes, assuming you are paying them their price and/or MSRP for the gun. That's the key difference, in fact if they charge you a transfer fee on top of a gun they priced i'd turn 360 degrees and walk out.
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>>65320275
>>65320278
Roger that, thanks. It's a private FFL I've been going to for years, but I usually end up buying weird stuff to have sent in.
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I’m using a dryfire mag for my Glock and I have the 10 lb trigger in and it is set to the same weight and pull as a NY trigger

What the fuck how did my fathers manage to use this shit

I’m on rep 400-500 today and muscles ache I didn’t know I had. On a side note; I think it’s really helped with my grip because stuff that didn’t matter at 5lb trigger with a short wall and reset absolutely matter with a NY 10lb trigger
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>>65320163
22lr is a garbage round that should have died a long time ago in favor for a rimless equivalent.
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>>65320263
>does that negate the usual transfer fees that come with having something sent to my FFL
Yes. They are ordering it from a wholesaler/distributor and marking it up to you from the wholesale price. They are getting their $50-100 that way.
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>>65320163
Uh I don't think either of those sources told you either of those things, because they're both as varied as White peoples eye color and you'd never be able to boil it down to something that specific.

What do you want to do with the gun, and how much do you want to pay?
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>>65320304
I liked to get rimmed if I'm being honest
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>>65320313
His beard must stink.
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>>65320163
Get what ur great great grandfather got and keep the legacy going.

In all due sincerity tho I’d get the one that was recommended cause family legacy

The YouTubers aren’t wrong in principle if you’d train that much. But I don’t know when one thing is more theoretical then realistic with skill transition and what not
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>>65320075
>Sezzles at least one Mossberg m2c a month
What manner of creature is he? This is disturbing.
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>>65320305
I see, thank you.
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>$900 budget
>first full-size handgun purchase (own a sig p238)

92fs or a 1911?

1911 is bad ass, but the beretta is cheaper, cheaper to shoot, and will allow me to become accustomed to a DA trigger pull.

what say you queers?
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>>65320355
1911 is highly overrated
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>>65320077
I don't like the blocky front ends of accessory rail frames on CZs
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>>65320357
i just think they're neat
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>>65320345
They're probably murder weapons and he gets rid of them each time.
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>>65320357
go to hell faggot

>>65320355
you can almost buy both for 900 if you get a used 92FS and a tisas 1911 is still sub 400 for the most basic (IMO get something more modern optioned, GI 1911s suck)
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>>65320362
then buy it my son
>>65320368
search your feelings, you know it to be true
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1911 was only good because no one leaned into perfecting pistols until the rifle was solved
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My 1911 is my favorite auto loader to shoot.
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>>65320310
What do you think of the .22LR version of the 92FS? Thinking of getting one so I can practice hip fire
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>>65320374
>beautiful
>one of the best triggers in an autoloader ever
>still made after 115+ years and popular
>in its time period shit on every other gun and still does, shooting competitions write rules to prevent it from competing against more “modern” guns
>guns still use the browning tilting barrel action
>mentioned in more Medal of Honor citations than any other U.S. firearm
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>>65320388
I haven't had the best of luck

I know some people say theirs work. So you can roll the dice, but without the hefty Beretta site discounts I think the kit is quite overpriced considering it's just an aluminum slide and barrel made by Umarex.

Also they widely seem to not tolerate light hammer springs
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Burt has the .22LR 92FS conversion kit, not the .22 LR M9A1 they made
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>>65320378
perfecting pistols was making the 1911 double stack
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>>65320237
I've been wanting a 30pk, firestar or bm desu. Is it really hard to find replacement parts if shit breaks? Also I heard you can't dry fire them or you'll break the firing pin?
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>>65320411
I could go for a 30 pack too right now.
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>>65320355
1911 if you want something cool. Beretta if you think you might need to shoot at someone and you don’t know if you’ll practice

I’m currently running the dryfire magazine to see if my trigger pull gets better if I use an obnoxiously heavy trigger to force me to address firearm fundamentals that aren’t an issue with a normal weight trigger. It also is helping me build muscular endurance, but doing 500 trigger pulls a day will do that

A DA trigger makes dry fire easier because the trigger resets for you and you don’t have to rerack the slide.

If you can get one of the lasers so you can verify ur not throwing your shots

My iron sights for my handgun are ever so slightly to the right and if not for me using a heavy ass trigger in conjunction with a laser and a target about the size of a human eye I would have never noticed it.

Actually. I’d say the 92FS for the double action trigger so you can dry fire without having to rerack the slide
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>>65320417
lmao
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>>65320421
>Actually. I’d say the 92FS for the double action trigger so you can dry fire without having to rerack the slide
Dryfiring ONLY in DA can leave training scars where the user can't switch between DA and SA mentally. They'll throw the second shot not registering mentally the switch to SA.

You have to dryfire your SA shots on the dead DA trigger
>1: DA pull
>2: SA pull shorter but mimicking the length of resetting the trigger
>3+: continue SA dry fire
only issue with this is that you make the SA pulls very fine, since you can't lift off the trigger which would reset the DA pull. You kind of want to train your trigger finger to come off the trigger far enough that in live fire and your hand tenses up you don't get trigger freeze. (finger too tensed up and could not reset the trigger).
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>>65320403
Bait used to be believable
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imagine carrying a gun called an equalizer
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>>65320436
I swear a few years ago people were saying not to let go of the trigger until you are ready for the next shot.
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>>65320449
scared glock boy?

>>65320452
Shooting is always evolving, I have no idea what they're going for with that advice.

But what I was talking about was that when I first tried to shoot rapid fire (sub .2 splits) I would constantly get trigger freeze and it was very hard to train out. Then I realized I got trigger freeze since I was dry firing sloppily and would ride the reset.
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I want a [spoiler]9mm [/spoiler] 1911
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>>65320436
>Throw the shot

It’s possible but I’d imagine if ur at that stage you’d start racking ur slide to get used to that switch

Alternatively; if he’s shooting fast enough to blow thru single action he might be in an accuracy by volume scenario.

Obviously it’s hypothetical; but given it worked for me when transitioning from an HK USP to Glock I shill it for everyone

I’ve never had the issue you referenced with the trigger not resetting all the way with a Glock, and I ride the trigger like a motherfucker and do have formal training under my belt. I know Glock isn’t double action, but I would like to believe I’m close enough to be accurate.

But I was also extremely good at shooting and had a very nasty tendency to disassociate under stress; so it’s genuinely possible I’m a horrible example for some unknown reason.

Please keep responding and letting me know if/how I’m wrong; I think it will benefit anon to see 2 people discussing the topic in detail and then he can make an informed decision. I have to sleep but I’d love to continue this conversation on. The reason I’m using a lot of anecdotal is because I don’t want to present my ideas as objective and want to include where an error to keep the other anon from giving my statements more credibility then they deserve
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>>65319988
They are all German Sig proofed zipper backs. If you know Sig mags, you know.
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>>65320472
>I want the balls cut off my 1911
I know what you are
>>65320468
Buddy I've never even fired a glock keep that shit to yourself
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>>65320452
It sounds like it’s about presence of mind. It seems similar to why someone would want a Double Action Kellermen trigger
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>>65320473
>Alternatively; if he’s shooting fast enough to blow thru single action he might be in an accuracy by volume scenario.
it'll show up in rapid fire pairs from DA to SA where the shooter pulls the SA trigger expecting a longer DA pull. The DA shot is where it should be but the SA which you'd expect to be more accurate than the DA pull is off low left or right. I saw Joel Park talking about it in a video where he sees it commonly enough with some DA/SA shooters
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>>65320486
Well shit, I fucked up and we need to stick to what works for the general population and tailor it from there. I’m glad you corrected me so that I didn’t fuck this anon over in the long run

In that case I’d tell anon to get the 92FS and get the coolfire trainer so he gets the full simulated recoil and the double action single action transition
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>>65320480
I want 3 1911s.
9mm, 10mm, and 45 :) I think that would be nice. but seriously idk why but I want a 9mm one. Just seems it would be fun.
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>>65320475
Looks like shit, of course west German sigs were literal trash with weak slides so it fits.
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>>65320503
9mm 1911s are one of the smoothest shooting guns, the full steel frame, the 1911 action itself makes shooting them super flat.
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>>65320475
>some have 3 dents up top, some 2
>dents in different locations in some of them
I'm still not convinced
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The spookiest thing just happened. I was in the garage putting some stuff in my trunk when the driver door slammed shut. I dove down and drew my carry gun to check the ground since I couldn't see anyone standing. I'm pretty worried, a truly skilled ninja could have easily avoided my detection and might still be lurking out there.

So I ask you, what is the best gun for ninja defense?
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>>65320357
>t.pantyboy
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>>65320494
I don't think it's a super common issue but it's easy to enforce bad habits with dryfire, dry fire can create issues as well as it can foster skill
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>>65320516
Fucking nigger stole my image.
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>>65320523
>Stealth is optional
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>>65320411
I just got it so I'm still looking around, the usual places like numrich do have a lot of replacement parts, just not the specific one that I need.

I have heard that about the firing pins but I also read in a number of places that was fixed specifically on the 30M. The ones you're looking at it might still be an issue.

But I cannot stress enough that this is a great gun for sub $300
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>>65320516
Probably an 8 gauge shotgun
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>>65320397
It's exactly the same slide, barrel and recoil spring assembly. Do you think the plastic frame, zinc slide rails and potmetal fire control components make a beneficial difference?
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>>65320532
What a handsome looking gun. I'll have to look around for good deals for one in the future.
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>>65320514
It was made in 1989 and saw duty use for 11 years, so it has wear from actually being used. Can yours say the same?

>>65320504
Yes that’s why the folded slide West German Sigs are so low in value.
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>>65320516
>you don't need a weapon lig-ACK
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Hello. I just want to ask a legal question about Handguns and how far you can decorate them like a CSGO Gun without getting into trouble.

For example: What if I put this Glock Backplate onto a Glock, and then had to use said Glock in a self-defense incident. Will I get into any legal trouble for that? I've heard rumors of prosecutors not liking the Punisher Symbol, but there's no actual cases of anyone being prosecuted for having that on any of their guns.
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>>65320602
It's literally my only gun that doesn't have a light. It does have night sights but maybe I should get a light for it.
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Anyone use the mantis X10 before? Thinking about getting one since its basically the same cost as a case
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>>65320610
It's not illegal but it might get brought up.
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>>65320630
Doesn’t tell you anything more than what a red dot does unless you want it for metrics for live fire
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>>65320610
There is no court case where gun modification has ever come in to play (other than dummies doing full retard conversions). The two closest would be New York v. Magliato which people try to say is precedent against having a "hair trigger" because, get this, when he pointed a gun at someone while threatening them and then pulled the trigger with his finger, it went off and killed the guy. The other was that time ATF tried to nail a guy for an unregistered SBR because he put a rubber cane tip on the end of his pistol receiver extension which, among other things, they tried arguing made it a rifle

Like anon said, that doesn't mean the jewish prosecutor won't try to use your "NATE HIGGERS" backplate for character assassination

tl;dr You can do literally anything you want
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>>65320663
Are R.I.P rounds back on the table?
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>>65320630
I love it

It’s worth every penny and helps me dial in small minuscule details. Think of it as training insurance. You’re paying however much it is, to have a machine tell you you’re fucking it up if ur doing it wrong

You should also check into the coolfire system
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Saw a kel-tec p11 for sale at Cabelas for 100 bucks.
Unknown age or condition beyond that it looked fine, I did not fuck with it cause I had to take a shit and they were about to close.

Is it a good deal no matter the condition?
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>>65320472
A hi power? They cute.
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>>65320766
Hi powers are a true ally’s gun.
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>>65320503
>but seriously idk why but I want a 9mm one
>>65320505
>9mm 1911s are one of the smoothest shooting guns,
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>get new wheel gat
>comes with moon clips
holy shit moon clips fucking SUCK to load i think i'm going to be gay and by a loader for them
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>>65320821
Why wouldn’t you get a speed loader? I didn’t know people didn’t like them.
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>wake up 5am, check phone and there's a new Budischowsky listing alert on ebay
>sweet wooden grips, looks legit since he's got a clear TP70 spare parts kit listed separately
>order it and fall back asleep
>arrives today and pretty clearly 'close but no cigar', peg/tenon or whatever angled askew, slide stop notch more horizontal than vertical, and a few mm too short at the rear
well I feel stupid for not looking closer, but no big loss.
So what do these actually fit on? Be a shame to deface them to fit since they're otherwise nice, and not wide enough anyway. Don't seem to quite match any of the wood grips I've seen online for German made / special edition Buds either (pictured left).
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Saw a Saturday Night Special at my LGS for 100 bucks. Should I go for it? Jennings 22lr btw.

>>65320046
you like pantyboys, don't you?

>>65320355
Got a P938, so very close comparison to your .380 variant. Go with the 92FS, I've seen some for 700 USD new at my store regularly, and it's a libstate. Plus, there are options for picatinny aftermarket modding for nightstand gun use with it.
>>65320393
NTA, but that would explain a few things from my experience with my 22LR kit. Multiple light strikes, and the takedown lever being obnoxiously difficult to rotate into position. The former could have just as well been the ammo (Winchester stuff, was discount at the store and marked 'NoRefunds')
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>>65320504
I have at least one hk brand hk mag with that type of back.
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>>65320838
Time to buy a dremel
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I’ve never needed spare parts but if I had a usp .40 I’d get this.
https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-hk-usp-full-size-40-sw-pistol-parts-kit
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>>65320853
>Should I go for it?
Cheap range toy so why not. Plus they look neat
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>>65320853
>Jennings 22lr
No
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While you halfwits ridiculed my silhouette concepts, there was someone taking notes.
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Panties: twisted
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>>65321426
You really can’t see a difference between printing something and drawing it yourself?
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>>65321430
Yeah, the difference is that my targets are 66% more efficient.
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>>65321457
With that kind of efficiency you could make some real progress if you actually shot.
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>>65321457
I don't see the problem.
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>>65320921
Shame it's not in .45

How much parts compatibility is there in a .40 parts kit for a 9 or .45?
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Threadly reminder not to interact with picrel
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>>65321426
you make your own targets for a variety of reasons, chief amongst them to cover up your tendency of getting Czone hits you noshoot pantyboy
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>Lilybin derails
>For some reason people still reply to him
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Turn your trip back on, DiaBurtes
>>65321469
But I have made progress which is why I don't need 66% of the target

>>65321474
Then we are in agreement

>>65321499
>tendency of getting Czone hits
Quit projecting. I wouldn't be surprised if you were the guy in the left lane who was shooting the floor, kek.
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>>65321512
>Says the guy who is almost hitting the floor
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>>65321535
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FFS, would anons just please consult the graph and not respond to the bait/troll?
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>>65321512
>can't see my czone hits if there is no czone
certified pantyboy moment
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>>65321542
Some of it is more than likely Lily samefagging
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>>65321542
I give him one (you) per day and only if he responds to me first (he does).
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>>65321542
>graph
wat graph
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>>65320472
Very nice to shoot. Go for it.
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>>65320531
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>>65321568
>wat graph
>>65321481
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>>65320821
Half moon clips are easier to load, the full moon clips are an invention of competitive shooting. If you can get half moons for whatever gun you have, I was thinking about the S&W 1917 and the .45 derivatives of it
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>>65321457
Pantyboy target
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>>65320853
>takedown lever being obnoxiously difficult to rotate into position
I had to file and grind both my kits to fit. It's like the cylindrical cut on the barrel for the takedown pin to rotate within is too far forward or something. Seems to be a common complaint
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What toy should I get solely for competition? I can't decide between a 9mm 1911 and a fancy version of the M&P 2.0, like the PC or all steel version. I'm aware those are very different things
Also don't say the Shadow 2, I'm not convinced it's worth the price tag
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>>65321723
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>>65321586
nice.
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>>65321723
I have a massive erection for the M&P Competitor, just don't buy the used one at my gun store before I get a chance to.
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>>65321546
>see my czone hits
You want to break my balls over borderline Charlies?

>>65321706
sybau
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Getting TWISTED
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Pretty good groups if those were at 25 yards
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>1911 talk
Hell yeah brother
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>>65321848
Drop the 2 and you got the actual range
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>>65321852
Pachmayr 1911 grips are THE sexiest handgun grip in all of history.
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Dumb question, 92x performance defensive anon from last thread:
-I tried the wraparound grips, the texture turned me off on the backstrap part.
-Pulled out my CZ P01/SP01 to compare. I think the SP01's curve fits into my hand the most comfortable.
-Theoretically a softer/less textured backstrap grip would work for me but I got to thinking
-Is it possible to take a softer rubber wraparound grip and mill out the area the grip scales normally go but leave enough material around the screw areas/some sort of liner so that you can use whatever grip vertec grip panels your Beretta can take IE Performance series or straight top, etc. and just screw through both?
-I see a benefit in a rubberized liner providing mild shock absorption both for your hand and for anyone who wants to run wood grips.
-Drawback would be buying "2" grips in a sense + a little bit of increased grip panel width but those could be thinned down.
>See my shitty ass picrel for a drawing of it.
-I want as good a grip feeling as possible but the stock wraparound was too bulbous or at least too strongly textured for me to get comfortable with it. But I'd also like some wooden or metal grips and those are only the vertec style scales. Something like this would be the best of both worlds. Am I just autistic and retarded about this?

-Also 1 final thing, the slide serrations are well made but really fucking flat especially on the rear serrations. I'm used to CZ style ones where they come to more of a point. I don't need them deeper, I just need the trapezoidal shape more triangular. Front ones are fine because I can push back on the slide more easily but I am very used to pinching the rear serrations from behind the sight and pulling back on my CZs and the Beretta ones are just way too smooth to the rest of the frame to get a tight enough grip with how smooth & slippery the rest of the 92x slide is.
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>>65319814
Tanfoglio knowers I need qrd on this shooter. Some say it's nice, some say unreliable.
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>>65321902
No

There are products that do kind of what you're describing, mostly from Hogue or Pachmeyer. Hogue makes products that tend to install over grips, and Pachmeyer or maybe someone else used to make partial rubber front/backstrap wraparounds that install by sandwiching the edges under existing grips

Try some other grips, or maybe a Hogue cock sock

As for the serrations idk what to say. A 92 is already exceedingly easy to rack, easier than a CZ's little tiny fingertip gripzone
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>>65321902
>>65321937
>other grips
Pic related, other products have different thicknesses and shapes
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>>65321937
I probably just need to practice a less pinch & pull method then. Because the serrations are so sharp/slide rides inside of frame meaning less real estate but also more horizontal pressure on the frame, I'm used to pointer/thumb of off hand on the back of my CZs and pulling hard. Target sights so I dont wanna interact with those at all on the beretta but I'll probably just get more used to racking from the front then. Thanks! Also I wish the spare parts for Berettas werent retard expensive, I want smaller safeties because they're mildly unpleasant to engage upwards w/ the thumb but more importantly they really restrict your clearance for dropping the slide. Might just put standard/brigadier controls on it or since I shoot left handed, leave the oversized safety on the right side or try to mill a mild curve/cutout on the front bottom of the safety that is easier to push against.
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>>65321586
Nice slim grips. I was thinking about putting slim bushings on my next build, probably a two tone commander with harrison grips
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>>65321959
If you aren't racking by push-pull method look into that. For 92s I almost exclusively use the scallops at the front anyway, I think they feel better and gib more control. You'll figure it out

Anywho the closest thing to the grip product you want are the old M9A3 Hogue rubber wraparounds, but they're gone now and they're not compatible with the safety models. And you couldn't modify them to allow a plastic grip overtop if they were

It looks like there are a LOT of new 92X Performance wraparound offerings since the last time I looked, it used to be only 2. Have a look around and give some different grips a try
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>>65319814
Just flagged an entire mall, end to end (I had to check prices in both stores).
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>>65321902
Get Hogue’s “wraptor” rubber grip tape and add some to the back strap
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>>65321902
Checkering file or gunsmith
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>>65320837
i don't have one for my new gun, only reason. it was cut for full moon clips and came with them so i wanted to check them out.
>>65321649
im finding that out, i'll look for half moons later.
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How much do skills and training carry from gun to gun? Obviously manual of arms is different, those need to be practiced separately. But if I only take my carry piece to the range the marksmanship improvements pretty much carry over to my nightstand gun right?

Assuming both are irons or both are optics.
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>>65322037
Fundamentals do but your personal maximum speed and precision won't because differences in ergonomic geometry change how you present, aim and break shots

That said you get familiar with what you own and can be proficient with a wide variety of shapes and sizes, but it's not likely you'll be at your very best with more than one or two specific guns at a time
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>>65321990
Definitely get the tool to load and unload moon clips, otherwise you’ll bend them and it’ll lock up the gun

>>65322037
It’s kind of like getting into a different car. You know how to drive.

>optics vs irons
Skills built with optics transfer to irons. You have to be very proficient with irons for the skill to hop over to dots. Things like trigger control and stuff transfer easily but in terms of presentation and control dots are operating on an entirely different level.
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why do people not call them reflex sights anymore smdh
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>>65322051
>Definitely get the tool to load and unload moon clips, otherwise you’ll bend them and it’ll lock up the gun
go it, any brand in particular? there is a 60 dollar one on amazon that looked okay
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>>65322103
TKcustom is the big one, they have a screwdriver tool that strips the spent cases out

That was the one I had before I sold it all
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>>65322106
yup that's the one i was looking at. thanks i'll grab it on my next amazon order.
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1911 knowers, I call upon you because I am indecisive: Alchemy, Wilson, or Ed Brown? I am leaning toward an Alchemy Prime or Quantico based purely on aesthetics.

I honestly find most of Nighthawk's lineup to be kind of ugly, and Les Baer's gaudy Trump gun is stupid enough to put me off them as a whole.
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>>65321825
>borderline
pantyboy moment
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>>65322279
no knowledge of ACW or Ed Brown. I don't particularly like ACW since their marketing guys suck at shooting and he is utterly repulsive looking and has a dick broom mustache
https://youtu.be/dMdLUC7nbAg

Bill Wilson has never let me down, except a really old .45 Sentinel (3.5 inch) that burns through recoil springs super fast. My Elite Professional is perhaps the best 1911 I own record wise, thousands of rounds without a failure that was not mag related. I got it used for 2.3k. Wilson's optic cut seriously sucks though. Nighthawk's is so much better.

Nighthawk despite me being 4/4 of having to send them back, their CS is very good. My most problematic gun which is a 10mm
>NOTES
>Initial Inspection: continued premature slide lock issues...this is the 4th time back for this same issue
>NOTES
>Replaced slide, barrel, extractor, firing pin stop, slide, and thumb safety - WW
which they did for free and I didn't even buy it from them, I bought it used. I'm fairly certain they also redid all the upgrades that the gun had (serrated rear of the slide, IOS optic cut, DLC finish) which means they did like 2000 dollars worth of work fixing the gun. I think they could have just dimpled the slide stop so the detent has more to bite into but that doesn't fixed the problem but just the symptom, so they rebuilt the upper.
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>>65322355
also ACW is owned by Cabot who do those stupid art guns that never get shot
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>>65322279
Les Baer or nighthawk. Baer makes the most well fit semi customs for the money. Nighthawk makes the best full customs for the money. Nighthawk is "full custom" by virtue of the one gun one smith thing even though they make the same designs. You will not be unsatisfied with either.

Alchemy is fine. Some people bitch about their quality for the price and exclusivity, the sprint run thing sucks. Ed Brown is really not a good value in current year. Check out Shauland Performance, Valor Precision, Pilot Mountain Arms and KC Customs as well.

FWIW nighthawk puts really ugly grips on their guns and if you just change them out they look a lot more normal.
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>>65322355
>I don't particularly like ACW since their marketing guys suck at shooting and he is utterly repulsive looking and has a dick broom mustache

Oh come on now, Eli is great. Guy has fantastic taste in guns and knows his stuff. He's a good shooter, it's the the pipsqueak redhead guy who sucks.

I like the way ACW does their beavertail blends, trigger guard undercuts and square trigger guards. that's about it. As a builder I take their pistols as inspiration but I would never buy one
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>>65322416
Yeah I was looking for this video where they were shooting a .45 and it was >45 degree muzzle flip. Couldn’t find it, they might have deleted it.

I take it back since I realize now he looks like that because of their magnum PI gun. Still not how I would present a gun. If I was doing marketing you wouldn’t even see my face, it would just be pictures of the gun and then I fly out one of those guys who makes the gun look like it has zero muzzle flip to shoot exploding water melons and soda jugs
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>>65321512
This range looks like a riot.
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>>65322409
I’ve read some horror stories of Les Baer on the fourms 1911 forum and 1911 addicts that makes me hesitant to recommend them

They make beautiful guns but their hard fit style with 500 round break in gives me some pause. There is a guy who can’t even get his gun to unlock since it’s fit so tight on 1911 addicts right now to do the 500 round break in
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What should we have Ben make a video of next?
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>>65322437
But that's not really a problem is it? After a few thousand rounds, or a few weeks of racking it and dry fire at home with snap caps it will be perfectly clearanced. I can't imagine being deterred by a gun thats too tight, personally.

They still do hand checkering at baer which I think is neat. I am a 30yo boomer and the old fashioned way les baer's shop does their guns just appeals to me.

Personally I'm at the level where I'd feel comfortable buying a caspian slide and frame and a kart NM barrel and just building the whole thing out with harrison small parts to my tastes. just don't have cash for that
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>>65322416
>it's the the pipsqueak redhead guy who sucks.
1911syndicate has the eyes of an actual psycho killer. Guy creeps me the fuck out.
Eli is tolerable when he's talking strictly about guns, but you can tell he's the sort of autist whose IQ drops to rock-bottom when it comes to anything other than his special interest. He also affects that goofy ass southern accent. Nails on a chalkboard to me.
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>>65322484
A tight gun will never be as reliable as a loose gun.
And the accuracy benefits are very minimal.
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>>65322484
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t21744-newer-les-baer-45-barrel-fit
This and how their “Comanche”/commander people have issues with since they don’t use commander length barrel fit
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>>65322437
>>65322484
>>65322530
Obsession with slide to frame fit is boomerlore for morons who fingerfuck their guns more than they shoot them. 1911 accuracy lies in barrel to bushing and barrel to slide fit.
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>>65322530
I don’t think there is any proof that loose guns are more reliable
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>>65322432
That it does. In spite my lack of skill, it's everyone else that's shooting the floor and ceiling.

>>65322351
Your groups probably look worse than mine.
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>>65322543
Commander length slide rails*
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The two on the left both hold 8, right one holds 6. The si mags came with the gun or I would have never bought them. I got these magguts to try because I end up never using the si mags even at the range. Now the mags will start seeing use provided they pass the test tomorrow. The test is just shooting with them.
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>>65322546
Guns being built so tight that they need a 500 round break-in period isn't proof?
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>>65322554
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>>65322555
No, an intentionally hard fit gun where the builder tells you to shoot it to wear in the barrel lugs is not evidence of slide to frame fit influencing reliability. Get your own proof.

Go buy a rattletrap gun or take a stone to a nice gun to make it loose and reliable if you want.
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>>65322554
The follower in the middle magazine is FUBAR.
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>>65322483
Argue about grip angles so he can make a video shilling for Glock. If he was based though he'd shill the Lugar grip angle and get everyone to buy Mk1s
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>>65322523
Yeah he gets asked questions about cars and knives and travel and get gives like answers an 18 year old might say. It's kind of funny. But ask him about swenson guns or wilson accucomps and he knows the most.

>>65322530
Okay so what? Nobody's taking a baer custom to war lol. They're competition/bullseye guns at best, range toys or safe queens at worst. It's well known that hard fit guns get destroyed by sand and humidity, so just don't carry one into war. Same reason you wouldn't drop into mogadishu with a .30 cal P210 or olympic target pistol.

>>65322543
Wow that is horrendous actually
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>>65322563
You know that the break in period is also about slide to frame fit, right?
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>>65322572
It straightened out once I put rounds in it.
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>>65322581
>Okay so what?
The post I replied to seemed to imply that a tight fit gun will be perfectly reliable eventually
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>>65322583
No. Specifically the lower barrel lugs are oversized
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>>65322432
>he thinks snapbin's range is a riot
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>>65322607
lmao
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>>65322554
>>65322557
>I'd like OEM 10 rounders for my 43 now 43Xers got served
They won't make them tho.
>Ok I'd like Magguts+2 so I can almost flush fit 8+1
Magguts won't ship them overseas, and won't even answer emails.
>I'd like a kydex holster for my 43+recover+PL-Mini2.
Nah brother, can't find that in here.
>What now ?
Now i'm a sad, sad europeon 43er that's all.
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Someone's selling a prodigy for $500 because they snapped the plate screw. Assuming this is legit and all that's actually wrong, how easy is this to fix?
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>>65322655
Judging by the skin color and the jewelry, that gun has way more problems than just a stripped screw.
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>>65322646
That sucks. How many would you want to get?
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Nobody got yelled at by the RSO today (no one shot the walls)
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>>65322596
Perfectly reliable for bullseye/comp shooting totally drenched in light grease, yeah.

You (or whoever said it) are right though that even a "normally" fit 1911 will still be more than accurate than the shooter, you can be competitive at anything with a slightly above average accurate 1911.There really isn't a need for the gun to be retardedly tight in current year, so yeah its boomer bait.

It's actually not that hard, as a machine shop, to make a gun that is excessively tight, it's not like something to brag about. Making a gun that is both reliable and accurate is. I think Staccato is way underrated for how consistent they are at making exceptionally accurate pistols that also manage to pass the 11 testing criteria
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>>65322616
>three yards
>average split of 1.75s
>revolver grip
>thumb input

>>65322587
Not GTG, bro.
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>>65322666
But somebody else might have been shooting at my target
>>65322682
Two second per shot rule on the range (I break it every time)
>revolver grip
LMAO
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>>65322682
>Not GTG, bro.
Thanks pastebin I’ll keep that in mind. I’m sure you’ve seen a follower get a little hung up before.
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>>65322682
You mean a teacup grip? That's not it btw
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>>65322690
I too disregard the rule against rapid fire.

>>65322697
>seen a follower get a little hung
It's not that, I've just never seen a polymer handgun-follower that thin before T BH.

>>65322700
Whichever grip it might be, that thumb twitching doesn't look optimal.
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>>65322726
He does the HRT thumb on all the webums but his groups are still better than yours.
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>>65320355
1911 was my first ever handgun, still shoot it, carry it, love it. I'm of the opinion that more recoil = more fun, and DA/SA is overrated.
That said you wouldn't regret the 92fs either
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>>65322726
>polymer
Oh it’s metal.
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>>65322690
Man what the actual fuck is that grip? It's like a 13 year old played re5 on release and drew it from memory 10 years later
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>>65322737
It just werks
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>>65322655
They may have damaged the threads trying to get it out, considering the monkey marks around it

My gunsmith charges 50 dollars per screw to extract and he’s really good at it.
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>>65322745
It looks bad. Your dominate hand thumb is presenting your support hand from getting onto the gun.
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>pastebin shitting on someone else's shooting ability
That's called "slowfire". It's a pretty useful way to build skill as a novice (like you are) Notice how he's shooting a group with a discernable center and you're throwing shots all over your fucking target? The word "split" shouldn't even be in your vocabulary until you can shoot groups. But you'll never understand that, because you're too arrogant to know how fucking stupid you are.
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>>65322745
If you ever shoot at a pace somewhat nearing the resemblance of speed you will very quickly find out how fucked that grip is. I would immediately stop training in that bad habit if I were you but wallahi bro
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>>65322754
That's on purpose to prevent my wedding band from digging into my right ring finger.
>>65322761
I've mag dumped at speed (allowed if you have an instructor with you). I'm happy with all alphas. Can't ask for a timeout to remove my ring when I need to actually use my gun.
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>>65322771
>Speed
15 in 10? lmfao
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>>65322771
Have you tried not being married instead
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>>65322760
>That's called "slowfire"
It's called I don't want to be banned from this range because the next closest range is about an hour from me. My groups are tighter if I shoot at a cadence, which is ~1 shot per second
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>>65322777
>15 in 10?
God I wish we can have 15 round mags
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>>65322730
>>65322760
Slow fire offers no insight since it can work with any grip.

>>65322736
>metal
Soudesuka
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>>65320355
If you get a 1911 get a classic at least, like a Colt Series 70. I had a Betetta 92fs and it’s cool but don’t expect to carry it, not too comfortable IMO it dug into my side crouch something fierce, highly recommend a railed Beretta like a M9A1 which I’m actively looking for a good deal on. Like other anon said, 1911s are actually super overrated also I’m a 9mm fan myself.
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>>65322797
I've never met anyone so invested in something that is so fucking terrible at it, my god. You truly make this thread miserable.
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>>65322797
You do realize that I shot the group on the right in less than a second for all 7 rounds from concealment (0.96 draw, 1.87 total)

>>65322804
1911s are not overrated
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>>65322797
>those groups
I ignore
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>>65322797
>non-drawn targets
Snapbin why are you presenting someone else's groups as yours?
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>>65320547
i miss pepsi nitro
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>>65322817
I member pepsi nitro
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>>65322807
1911s are outdated, not quite obsolete they still stack up to modern day pistols but in terms of practicality there’s way better options. They make good comp guns but as a duty/ carry pistol? They’re far away from being as good as people say they are.
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>>65322797
It’s some wonky looking hybrid spring deal with a replacement follower. All of the reviews are good but I’m still going to put like 300 rounds through them tomorrow.
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What's the least ideal gun you have carried?
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>>65322825
what's it like having shit for brains
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>>65322830
G43 lol.
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>>65322830
Tokarev
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>>65322830
Any micro 9
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>>65322832
Wouldn’t know, you tell me faggot!
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>>65322825
As a carry pistol for me the manual and grip safety makes it very easy to carry and holster.

As a duty pistol they’re being looked into more and more as they make such good comp guns they allow shooters to faster and more accurate hits. The trigger is much more forgiving.
>inb4 manual safety
Yeah they’re guns for people who can remember to take off manual safeties, people well above the minimum
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>>65322805
My shooting is mediocre but not the worst.
>miserable
Stop being a drama queen.

>>65322807
>from concealment
You do realise the Bill Drill is meant for OWB drawing. I'll be focusing on the Rousseau Drill in any case.

>>65322809
Rude.

>>65322827
>hybrid spring deal
Curious, let us know how they performed tomorrow!

>>65322814
>presenting someone else's groups
For direct comparison.
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>>65322863
>My shooting is mediocre but not the worst.
Yet you feel the need to give advice, and even criticism LMAO
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>>65322863
> Rousseau Drill
It’s called the Mozambique drill, retard
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>>65322830
USP 45. I am a large man but not large enough to conceal that brick.
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Went to the range for a pre match class, pretty much where they verify you can draw from the holster without flagging yourself. The final bit was an El Presidente drill on the clock. I scored 12.2+4, how'd I do?
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>>65322863
Hello /hg/, /arg/ poster here. Whats the monthly challenge yall do? I see you guys do a thread competition for accuracy at a set distance and use the same target sheet. I'd love join in on that if someone can provide the print.

Also I just bought a TISA 1911A1, any 1911isms I should know or just general 1911 knowledge that important? I've been a Glock shooter up till now.
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>>65322891
We did two monthly challenges, I’m too lazy to do the collage and no one but Burt and maybe one other anon attempted July.

For accuracy challenges, get B8C targets (20 cents each) and shoot slowfire at 7 yards. The reigning champion is laser beam anon who puts all 5 into the same hole at 7 yards with his Gen 5 Glock with ACRO. Shooting that same target at 25 is also a regular benchmark.

>1911isms
Extractor tension: easy to tune the existing but you might want to get a quality extractor from a U.S. manufacturer (EGW, Wilson, etc)
Magazines; more important these days for JHPs but if one brand of magazine is giving you an issue, try a different one. MecGar, Wilson, CM power mag, Tripp research, etc all use different follower and tube designs. Your gun might be particular for one over the others.

1911s don’t just jam, there is reasons they jam that can be deduced, mark your magazines so you can tell them apart.
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>>65322838
Why?
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>>65322920
Try shooting one.
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>>65322935
I have and it shot as well as any other tiny gun but it held a few more shots.
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>>65322884
We've all tried it.
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>>65322912
Got ya, thank you my friend.
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>>65322884
>I am a large man
4u
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>>65322884
Would 5'10 150 be able to conceal it and be honest
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>>65322830
When I first turned 18 (dixiefag, you can carry under 21 here) the only pistol I owned was a .38 1905 Hand Ejector with a 5" barrel, in an old Bianchi hunting shoulder holster. It was awful, did not conceal, and I was only really comfortable with carrying five rounds because of the hammer
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>>65322830
I can't legally carry where I live, but I had to carry once for a reason I wont say...USP...in my jacket's inner breast pocket. It was not that bad
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>>65322834
Why?
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My LGS has a S&W 1006 for sale for $1050 with no magazines, and magazines are $200. Is there a cooler gun I can get for the money?
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>>65322960
lmao based
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>>65322994
Yeah, ones with magazines
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>>65322960
At the time, an 18 year-old could open carry in my state, but couldn't conceal until 21, so I open carried a Ruger Blackhawk for a few months before getting a better gun.
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>>65322884
That’s entirely if you’re a manlet and secondly your holster selection. USP .45 is surprisingly easy to conceal. Probably due to how light it is compared to other .45s
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>>65323004
Kimber DS Warrior Longslide 10mm
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>>65322982
Why do I carry it?
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Someone link me the best possible USP 45 IWB holster

No Enigma bullshit
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>>65323075
What’s wrong with the enigma
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>>65323013
Anythings easy to conceal, try sitting down and having a meal with it on.
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>>65320304
But it didnt because the paper hunters and squirrel getters who reload are insignificant compared to the ones who want the cheapest ammo that possible to produce to a reasonable standard, which for rimfire I can only imagine has improved massively since 1887.
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>>65320378
Then why is it still good
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>>65323084
>enigma
For me, it's the sugma
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>>65323164
steve jobs
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wtf why is it so cheap

The very cheap stuff used to be $1.40 on a good day with regular ammo at near $1.80
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You fucking RETARDS continuously BITCH about this pastebin FAGGOT and about how much he SHITS up these threads but you can FUCKING help yourselves from replying to him. If you fucking MONGOLOIDS just stopped replying to his obvious fucking BAIT then none of this would be happening.
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>>65323198
4chan has evolved unc. People reply to themselves when nobody else will.
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How to conceal Model 29 with a 4" barrel? I have a shoulder holster with tie downs, but that won't work when not wearing a jacket.
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>>65323198
He's the designated /hg/ punching bag
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Do you guys remember your first time carrying concealed?
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>>65323298
Yeah. I was sitting in some bleacher stands at a Rodeo and some kid flipped up my shirt and saw it, then yelled at his mom and dad "THAT MAN HAS A GUN!"
>I'm not joking
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>>65323305
Lol why would he do that
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>>65323231
appendix, shift it to the right just slightly

>>65323298
Yeah I was carrying illegally in california at a walmart in palm springs and i felt like a god
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>>65323315
You were carrying *infringed* anon
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>>65323333
sovereign quads
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>>65323315
>appendix, shift it to the right just slightly
Mmm, yes. Thank you.

>>65323333
chegged
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>>65323336
I shoulder carry btw
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>>65323305
Imagine if this kid met this anon >>65323315
and he got arrested and had to do time in a California prison.
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>>65323118
I did better than that, I sat through an entire movie at a theater and it was fine, forgot I had it till I stood up.
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>>65323298
I had my usp in an owb holster with a jacket over it.
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https://palmettostatearmory.com/glock-tac-light-w-laser-and-dimmer-black-tac4065.html

These weapons lights are the shit for a full size handgun. 11/10.
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>>65323064
Why is it not ideal? I find my G43 to be an extremely comfortable& concealable carry
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>>65323351
After the theater shooting I was carrying a ppk appendix and I had just started carrying. My shirt rode up during the movie and when I left the theater this Mexican family saw it. The guy's eyes got all wide but nothing happened.
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>>65323369
>70 lumen
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>>65323298
I went out to do some errands and was constantly wantching peoples faces for a reaction. When I got to the BofA I thought the security guard would know for sure after I hitched up my belt with locked eye contact. Nobody gave a heck
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>>65323383
Yeah I felt in the moment like I was printing like crazy but I know I wasn't
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>>65323314
I was wearing a lighter collared shirt. I was probably printing or the shirt was riding up as I sat. I wasn't super attuned to what clothing I needed to wear. So maybe he just saw it or wanted to know what I had under my shirt. No clue.
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>>65323008
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Having two points of reference this close together might compromise sight focus. If so, I'll have to revert back to the older scheme where there was just the one.

>>65322867
>criticism
That guy who slow fires at three yards is the one who started the argument, not me.

>>65322877
>socialist country
vs
>mercenary that inspired the shooting drill

>>65322891
Welcome to /hg/, always nice to see a VIP in here!
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>>65320304
You can tell alot about a man based on his opinion on .22 long rifle
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>>65320304
22lr is secretly a type of primer
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>>65322830
Jennings j22 that likes to go full auto and go off when chambering somewhat regularly
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>>65323371
It's fantastic for carry it's just the gun itself is very small and has limited capacity. I'm okay with it, I chose this gun on purpose even over the g43x. But it is objectively the least ideal gun I have carried.
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>>65323383
I wonder how many people even noticed at the mall today. >>65321980
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>>65323298
>months of harrasment and stalking from the town schizo
>had been carrying at work (legally) for months
>finally get it
>wear every single gun on my permit for a week straight with a huge shit eating grin
it was winter and a giant dickees jacket so you really couldnt tell. my first time carrying apendix with my 19 in a t shirt in summer was way more memorable because i kept scanning faces to see if anyone could see.
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>>65323483
fucking ring of fire
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>>65323436
you can't even print what can be loosely considered a group. Everyone, including people who don't post their shots, are better than you by default.
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I have a possibly stupid question. When I'm at an indoor range, my groups are terrible and all over. When I shoot outdoors, I can reliably hit an index card sized piece of steel at 10 yards or more shooting at a steady pace of one round a second. Why is that? Is that just lighting or a skill issue, or maybe my eyes are kinda fugged?
I know I'm not a good shot.
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>>65323536
Air vortexes and harmonics
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>>65323536
Concussion from other shooters and sound amplifying indoors can cause or make flinch/anticipation worse
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>>65323536
Lead throwing you off like kryptonite
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>>65323536
Indoors is loud. I double up ear pro
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>>65323561
>>65323569
Hmm, thanks. I'll get some more practice in and make sure to double up.

>>65323562
Maybe I should start microdosing lead to build up a tolerance.

>>65323545
I think you're on to something.
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>>65323576
>Maybe I should start
Bro that's the neatest part, you already are.
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>>65322863
>>65323436
Shoot the challenge of the month if you're so great.
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>>65323576
Start eating lead by the brick, shock your core. It's good for the body
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>>65322745
>It just werks
If it works for you it works. Don't put too much stock on what you hear online, especially not from someone who shoots less than 250 rounds a year (40apr dodgechargerbin)
You can even point your thumb/thumbs up as long as you have appropriate pressure.
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>>65323580
>>65323585
heck yeah bout to chow down. and the zinc will be good for cums
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>>65323598
Eating scrap metal all by yourself handsome or are you gonna share?
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>>65323536
the air systems required for an indoor range make the targets bounce around
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>>65320838
Dang wtf
>>65322355
Geez just watching that ad is painful it's like he's playing a character badly
>>65322523
Apparently the 1911syndicate guy is a terrible real estate agent. Always found it weird how he said the channel was primarily to showcase real estate and advertise their business.
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>>65321721
recommended tools to fix this? haven't had any experience with fitting parts before, but I got some 400-600 grit paper that I'd use to sharpen woodworking chisels and such.
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>>65323584
I’m doing it tomorrow.
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>>65323656
Those are enormous magazines holy shit
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>>65323658
I’d say it’s about average.
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>>65323659
Kms
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How did they fuck this up so badly?
It's like they tried to give a nod to the hk backwards bullet ad, but they also appear to have the mags backwards? The little notched part is the front of the mag and the higher side is the rear, but looking at the baseplate of the mag in the table, it's backwards. But then you look at the baseplate which clearly tells the another story. I'm actually baffled
What were they going for here??
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>>65323536
I notice a difference in group size too and I've attributed it to my ligmatism playing up under fluorescent lighting and the ceiling baffles creating shaded/lighted zones because it happens when I'm indoors alone
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>>65323643
I already had a set of jewelers files and Dremel polishing bits that work a treat. I would not suggest sandpaper coarser than 400 grit to start, 600 should be fine to finish. And you will have to find something cylindrical to wrap it around which is exactly or slightly smaller in diameter than the takedown pin, because you must try to preserve that radius so the barrel isn't wibbly wobbly

What I did was go back and forth between Dykem, reassembly, filing, Dykem, reassembly, filing to keep re-identifying the contact points and attack them bit by bit. It's hard to keep a tool perfectly square by hand, so you'll have to correct alignment mistakes on the next go around. Use a sharpie if you don't have Dykem. You can see from pic related that after bluing it's still pretty much only contacting the rearmost edge of the cutout, but the barrel locks in tight with no roll so that's where I left it
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>>65323643
>>65323709
Oh, if you have a vise this will be ten times easier btw

Just go slow, you can't put material back
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>>65323701
So it's not just me. interesting, thank you.

>>65323622
Dig in :^)

>>65323623
that makes sense
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>>65321960
They feel great. Slim hogue aluminum. The flatter sides really works.
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>>65322279
Between those three, Ed Brown without a doubt. If I buy another 9mm in that price range it's what I'm going for for sure.
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>>65322830
Vz.50, NAA 22lr, Walther P38.
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>>65322891
>any 1911isms I should know
Get 4-5 spare mags at least. Shoot it a LOT.
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>>65323298
Yeah I open carried a manhurin P38 in an ulcle miles hoster to great clips as an 18 year old and felt like a badass.

I'm sure I looked like the ultimate cringe fedora tipping retard.
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>>65322658
4 magguts+2 at the very least.
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I’m getting a Glock to monkey with, want to put a thumb safety in it. What do I have to replace mechanically to get the crispest smoothest trigger possible, with the option to go in later with a file and lighten it up to taste?
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>>65323895
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>>65323921
Ok, fine with that too :(
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>>65323489
I guess it depends on what your definition of ideal is for concealed carry - so not objective. But sure I hear ya
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>>65323895
>I’m getting a Glock to monkey with, want to put a thumb safety in it.
I assume by "thumb safety" you mean a manual safety on the frame. They do make those so I'd recommend finding them used
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>>65323298

Yeah it was uneventful, which is what you want while concealed carrying
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>>65324276
Duh?
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>>65324285
Me personally, I try to avoid confrontations when I carry.
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>>65324291
Most everyone does this snowflake
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I’m debating on getting a handgun for my beloved grandmother

She’s like 70 and has arthritis so I have the feeling she’s going to get one shot off cause she’s not going to put in all that practice.

Here’s my thoughts and idea

>Glock store M1X. That’s a 19 frame and a 26 slide
>Radian ramjet and afterburner barrel
>Glock OEM flared magwell
Streamlight flashlight and laser w/ the pressure pad contour.
>Not sure about optic
>Johnny glock competition trigger
>Tangodown backplate

My thought process being if anything she will have one shot, and I want to make it as grandma friendly as possible. Which for me is hard cause my duty handgun straight up has brass weights in it for the sake of extra weight. I think the ramjet would be good because it balances out the snappiness of a sub compact Glock barrel

I’m thinking the flared magwell may be overkill, but idk. I just really love her but I can’t always be around her
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>>65324394
I've had gun store boomers try to sell my mother on some small caliber revolver being easier to carry, maybe it was 32 acp? Either way, don't just buy your grandmother a glock with all the racing stuff. Unless she's a gun nut shooting her whole life, you'd be going strictly for
>it's the thought that counts I guess
in this situation.
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>>65323521
>people who don't post their shots
Are either nogunz or noshootz.

>>65323536
>lighting
Definitely, my combat accuracy extends to 15 yards outdoors because of the superior contrast and definition with mechanical sights. I've even rang gongs out to 50 yards at the state range where there are no RSO's around so no eye pro to screw with my sight picture but it's shutdown right now (seasonal).

>>65323584
I won't have target ammunition until next month ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>65323650
Hope you're having fun, Odin-75 anon.
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>>65324437
>combat accuracy
>8inch groups
Stop posting anytime
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>>65324453
Start shooting anytime.
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>take other people's shooting
>pretend it's yours
So this is the power of not being able to afford ammo.
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>>65324400
I’m thinking on the racing stuff cause it plays well into being old

Lighter trigger=easier on the hands that have arthritis

Less recoil= easier follow up shot

The flared magwell is nice cause if she needs to reload it’s easier. But I doubt that she’d need to get to that point

>Small revolver easier to carry

I never understood that. It’s a lot of extra weight + a small caliber. So yeah, low recoil. But it’s way heavier than it needs to be. And shorter barrel= more recoil. Shit, maybe granny needs a Glock 45 or a 49. We shall see
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>take other people's shooting
So he's ESL and noshootz, many such cases!
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>>65324501
Nice ten 3 anon. I’m currently debating on buying simichrome or flitz and polishing the inner front part of my gun to help with cycling

Not that it’s an issue, I just like having a super smooth gun
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>>65324394
Shield equalizer
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>>65324437
>it's shutdown right now (seasonal).
That sucks. We're on summer hours here which sucks but at least I can shoot. Speaking of which, I have to go.
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>>65324506
Can never go wrong with a slick action, my good chum but I didn't polish anything there. The slide and gubbins are just soaked in CLP before I scrub them.

>>65324538
Good luck, have fun and take photos!
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>>65324554
>take photos!
Yeah I saw some people arguing the other day and it lead to "post groups" so out of curiosity I checked my folder and I only have a handful of targets from a long time ago. This is from 2014 I don't even know what distance it was at but probably nothing impressive.
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Well...

Recommend me an IWB holster for the USP 45
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>>65324625
No
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Anyone use 1 of these hidden gun safes? Thinking of buying 1 to store my pistol. They're "locked" with a magnet. Are they any good for the bedroom?
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>>65324497
I get what you're going for, but you're projecting onto her. Especially a gun as a gift? Have you talked to her? That's not the type of thing that you just go
>surprise!
for someone. I know I'm sounding like a faggot but I just don't want to hear about anon's grammy NDing or some other shit at worst. Also you're focused on the trigger, but what about racking the slide? My mother for example literally cannot rack any of my handguns.
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>>65324656
Or 1 of these holewor safes I've seen on amazon since their on sale.
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>>65324656
>>65324664
Buy none and invest in a liberty safe for a few hundred.
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>>65324658
That’s why I referenced the tangodown backplate (so she can).

It’s not a suprise gift either. I’m talking with her about it

I also appreciate the concern, you are right that there is a lot more to it then just getting them a gun. It’s teaching gun safety and everything else

If she can’t rack the slide even with the tango down backstrap they have stuff that works like an optic so she can rack the slide on the table
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>>65324394
I assume you own a gun, and possibly even a Glock, bring it to her and have her try and rack the slide. I'm willing to bet money she can't grab it hard enough to do so. I struggled to believe that any woman was actually weak enough to struggle with racking the slide until I handed my mom a gun, sometimes they really cannot do it. Get her a revolver.
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>>65324664
I have one of these from harbor freight in my desk, it's solid.
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>>65324729
Let’s see

I’ve handed her a Glock before. But her hands hurt that day and she didn’t want to rack the slide even
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>>65324563
>nothing impressive.
Have you checked the groups by the general's self-appointed shooting expert?
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>>65324674
>invest
>in a thing that loses half its new value immediately
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>>65324691
Gotcha.
>tango down backstrap
If she has strength issues or arthritis, simply having more grip area won't do much. How does the M&P EZ series do it? They don't really explain it in as much detail as I would like.
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>>65324437
> I won't have target ammunition until next month
Why the fuck would you need “target ammunition” to shoot a 13 round course of fire at 7 yards?
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>>65324870
>he thinks the 40APR dodge charger is a meme
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>>65324870
He’s still paying off the financing for his BCM upper and ACOG at 27% APR.
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>>65324868
Shit, I like the sound of it

I will most definitely check into it
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Are desert eagles actually fun to shoot or are they only for collecting and memes?
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>>65324994
yes
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I blew it on the coin. The dot on my front sight is bigger than the coin. I definitely need to upgrade to optics. In other news, 300 rounds through the magguts today, about 100 of those were mag dumps, 0 malfunctions. That's about 18 reloads for each mag. I think that's good enough, I'm going to start carrying them. I'll keep testing them and do this again next week or the week after.

>>65324437
>Odin-75
No comprende.

>>65324625
I only tried one and I don't recommend it. It was an aliengear back in like 2012ish.
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>>65324870
I think he means he only has defensive ammo and he doesn't want to use that for this. I don't blame him, dots are expensive.
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>>65324394
We.had a pretty big discussion on this topic like a month or two back.
I think some of the best options were
22 mag air weight j frame or LCR with a professional trigger job (to lighten it enough)
Lcp max or bodyguard 2.0 with either ones dovetail optic or a milled optic to rack the slide. (May still need mag loader)
The 380acp p365 luxe
My vote is the 22 mag revolver as it's by far the simplest, maybe easiest to grab out of a purse, and you can put some fat plush rubber grips on it to make it even more comfortable for her.
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>>65324563
That's pretty good considering you were shooting in the dark

>>65324870
>“target ammunition”
As opposed to defense ammunition for carry and at home.
>13 round course of fire at 7 yards
With my Buscadero Ticondas? Not happening.

>>65325170
I thought you were the anon that recce'd Odin holsters. In any case, well done ventilating those red coats!
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SNAPbin wants to see your range results because he folders it and uses it different places to pass off as his own. Not even joking.
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I never claimed anyone's pistol or range results as mine, no.
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>>65325189
>Odin
Oh I've never used them. This one is jmck and thanks to whoever recommended them.
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>>65325228
Anon, your muzzle crown.
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>>65325228
One quick wipe with a dry patch later. It would probably be better to put this image with the others instead of that holster pic.
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>>65325237
I'm pretty sure it's just dirty.
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>>65325244
NTA but when gets sooty like that I spray some clp on a microfiber cloth and it comes right off like new
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>>65325244
Hopefully so, pardner.
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This drama is reminding me of 4-5 years ago when posts would show up in random threads bitching about a guy that didn't seem to exist. I can't remember the name, but I'm hoping somebody remembers what I'm talking about.
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>>65325326
While pantybin's credit score is virtually non-existent, he unfortunately (still) exists.
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>>65320757
>kel-tec p11 for sale at Cabelas for 100 bucks
Would, for collection if nothing else.
P11 was a significant step for the industry, the micro compact from before they were cool, and it was the precursor to the P32, which disrupted the entire mousegun market and forever invalidated the idea that straight blowback is a reasonable thing to do in a firearm optimized for carry.
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>>65325343
I read he owes over 70k to a man named anthony and another 20k to a man named moshe
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>>65325392
>>65325392
>>65325392
>>65325392
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>>65325228
>>65325238
what light is this?
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>>65325636
tlr7a. I'm pretty happy with it and just in case it wasn't clear that is with it covered in carbon, it's quite bright without that. That's also 300 rounds worth from today and however many were on there from last time.
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>>65320610
The jury selection process usually filters arseholes like the ones that would think weapon customization = criminal intent. However, the prosecutor will cross examine anything that the judge allows like when Thomas Binger brought up Kyle Rittenhouse's computer game history (Call of Duty). Pieces of shit like that would try to use your favourite colour against you if the court let them even though none of that has ever resulted in a conviction.



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