>>65323923
that's an interesting catch method. I assume those hooks are lighter than the landing legs of Falcons. Reliability is probably worse though, I wouldn't trust floppy cables to never ever buckle wrong, no matter how much tension you put on them

Why are you so butthurt, chinkshill?

>>65323923
about 10 years too late and just in time for starship to mog em
and nova.... and terran R, and new glenn

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>>65324002
oh I forgot neutron too
china may as well just give up, we are going to absolutely dominate by multiple orders of magnitude

>>65323923
I dont get what stabilizes it as it descends. What stops the crosswind from tipping the whole thing?

>>65324002
>>65324007
raped any dogs lately?

>>65323923
>carrier aircraft

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>>65323923
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>>65324037
That's a Russian Proton rocket.

>>65324037
>chinks don’t even bother with flight termination systems
Insane really

>>65324037
Why do retards freak out when China does literally anything and try to downplay it?

>>65323923
Interesting choice. Shitposting aside, I'm wondering why they went with this system and not something similar to SpaceX or using a landing leg system
>>65324037
Wasn't this the rocket where the guidance system was installed upside down?

>>65324051
no, just a natural reaction to multiple years of intense, targeted chinese shilling.

>>65324052
Landing legs are heavier. This looks like it can handle landings in heavier sea states, too.


>>65324054
>"Anybody who doesn't immediately dismiss everything the Chinese are doing is a paid Chinese shill targeting me directly as the Main Character of Reality whose opinion creates Truth!"

Ok.

Or the Chinese don't care what you think and it's just that some of us have noticed that they've been very busy bees for the last 30 years and we don't spend 24/7 trying to dismiss it because our egos aren't so fragile that we need to deny reality. Truth is truth regardless of what you want it to be, and someone who faces truth is not in a worse position than one who denies it in favor of a comforting fantasy.

>>65323923
>Arresting gear can be used to recover space rockets on top of carrier aircraft
Neat, I had been wondering what they catch mechanism was, since the thing that looked like a docking collar wasn't used and stays out of the way while the rocket descends.
Seems like a pretty simple mechanism, hard to fuck it up and the maintenance requirements and procedures would be well understood, there shouldn't be any surprises.

>>65323923
Breddy smart.
Mecha Godzilla ideas expansion
Can have less precise rocket control and compensate by elaborate capture tower

>>65324069
Sure sure, well give compliments when they actually surpass something instead of aping things someone else has done, fair enough?

>>65324052
>I'm wondering why they went with this system and not something similar to SpaceX or using a landing leg system
it's cheaper and safer that SpaceX "grab the rocket with chopsticks" method.
BUT, SpaceX way can deal with way heavier rockets and it's designed for quick reusability. They want to be able to grab landing rockets, refuel them, and launch them again in a day.

This new chinese method will not be able to that.

>>65324052
>I'm wondering why they went with this system and not something similar to SpaceX or using a landing leg system
Landing on legs is extremely difficult. You need very precise and fast rocket engine trust and trust vector controls. Complicated by rocket engine exhaust reflecting from ground and inducing additional forces on landing rocket.
Here is you slowly falling through area of space without exhaust reflected back at rocket and catching tower is compensating for all errors by it's catching wires movements.

>>65324052
Legs are dead weight, which is why even SpaceX is doing the "Mechazilla/chopsticks" for recovering the Starship. What the chinks are doing is an alternative by using ropes in a sea platform instead

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>>65323923
KINO!

>chinkshill starts samefagging and spamming, again
Tiring

>>65324010
Top side support. The thing was swinging back and forth like a big pendulum while the barge rolled with the waves.

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>>65323923

>>65324079
>SpaceX way can deal with way heavier rockets and it's designed for quick reusability. They want to be able to grab landing rockets, refuel them, and launch them again in a day.
The cables won't be any slower than the chopsticks, you just spool up the cable to reset the system, it would take a minute.
There's a crane arm there which I assume is to transfer the rocket to another craft or a dock or something.

Once the landing tech is a mature technology, I assume both will be transferred to land-based landing pads for more rapid turn-around.

I think this might be a situation where it doesn't really matter which one you use, both can be scaled up and both will work fine.
There might even be an iris-like convergence where both tend towards multiple catch mechanisms spiraling in from sufficient directions to handle the weight and forces in question.

I think both systems have some potential as a space-based docking mechanism as well.

>>65324093
it's the CNS ufuckupwealldie

>>65324095
>antichinkshill starts samefagging and spamming, again
Exciting

>chinkshill is projecting again
It's sad that you always do this on the weekend. Imaging wasting your life like this.

>>65324000
Posting an achievement isn't being butthurt idk.
>>65324007
Funded by starlink speculation, but starlink is still 50% negative revenue year on year even if they keep telling everyone it's making money (by splitting the companies costs to different companies so the cost doesn't count)

The next viable competitor willing to dump cost into a higher orbit (so they don't need to replace the entire constellation of sats every 20 years) will likely sweep the market and the competition will kill what little profit there is left in said market to justify temporary sats.

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Reddit invention.
Shame on you 4chan

>>65324112
Honestly every fucking chinese achievememt thread goes this way
This is seriously cool stuff and it's a great idea imo.
It's also an idea that doesn't need such a huge, risky Space X tower and is imo actually superior to SpaceX's swing arm design.

No need to put the rocket at an angle to swing into the arms safely, meaning less complexity required on the rocket for landing, less risk of failure due to tilt from both the stress and the complex movement causing risk, less need for sideways structural integrity due to less tilt (thus a lighter rocket), less fuel needed due to no lateral losses.
No need for heavy landing legs
Wider capture area to make up for shortfalls or errors
The wires can take up slack far easier as they have more degrees of freedom and they can be raised higher, easier.
The system can be boat transported and able to handle small trajectory deviations due to the boat being able to move, meaning (a tiny amount) less fuel can be required on the rocket for return.
Oh and the landing area probably doesn't need replacing/resurfacing so often, with less moon dust, which might be valuable on the moon.

What I find personally cool is what it could be. The system could hypothetically be adapted to be a huge, three tower system using pulleys just like a pulley cutter/printer if they ever want to adapt it to make the land area require even less precision than what they have.

It basically means china could hypothetically undercut spaceX on low cost launches by the end of the decade, I imagine SpaceX will be copying China this time for low cost launches, and if they don't, they are fools.

>>65324093
I would be a nervous sailor.

>>65324153
Engineering doesn't give a shit about what social media it gets posted on anon.

Also in the very post you link to they say
>it's hardly an original idea
The chinese system also uses runners, which are simpler and less error prone than that design.

>>65324177
>Wider capture area to make up for shortfalls or errors
>The wires can take up slack far easier as they have more degrees of freedom and they can be raised higher, easier.
The cable system has some self-centering characteristics that I think would be pretty helpful too.

>>65324177
>Honestly every fucking chinese achievememt thread goes this way
Because chink shills can't help themselves. Even when China does something actually good or cool like this, they have to use it to shit on foreign things.
If you read the news about this new system, it's all about how amazing and better is than SpaceX, and how China is dominating the space race vs the US, which is delusional.

>>65324177
>It basically means china could hypothetically undercut spaceX on low cost launches by the end of the decade, I imagine SpaceX will be copying China this time for low cost launches, and if they don't, they are fools.
Fucking chinkshill

>>65324186
>If you read the news about this new system, it's all about how amazing and better it is
This thread isn't though, it's purely descriptive and it still invokes you implessive retards.
Face it, your goal here is just to prevent anything Chinese from being discussed or analysed.

>>65324177
"something something China YAY!"

Another thing imagined in the power-point dreams of the East then made actually working in the West.

>>65324190
>Face it, your goal here is just to prevent anything Chinese from being discussed or analysed.
Nothing to discuss. Chinkshits are trash and you should kill yourself
>it's purely descriptive
lol
lmao

The chinese shills are so desperate to post about this, must be labelled high-priority

>>65324212
>>65324000
>>65324095
>>65324115
Don't you have Lindsey Graham to mourn?

>>65324185
Oh true I guess, I imagine it also means that they can transport the rocket off the ship easier due to it already being suspended and moveable. If they expand the systems movement to include a second layer or even a crane they could lie the rocket down on the ship and then land a second one without having to return to dock.
Space X also uses top lift hooks for that anyway so same deal just potentially higher turn around.
>>65324188
I hope Elon has less hubris tbqh. You make every Chink thread insufferable too btw. China is a threat we need to compete with and copy from, and not rest or get hung up on the idea that we can't copy them, get over it.
>>65324191
If you can't see it you are stupid. It's working, on video, right there.

>>65324201
>Admits he's wrong
Implessive

What kind of nonsensical retort is that?

When this thread invariably gets deleted we'll see you back for your fourth or fifth attempt to spam this same showpiece on /k/.

>>65324236
Other than your impotent seethe, the thread has been highly interesting.

Also reminder that this is the toned-down shill thread, so only spacex is finished
In the first one, f47, b21 and the us itself is finished
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65317891

>>65324242
Or, hear me out, this one could be full of real people at real people hours.

>>65323923
>using a phone camera to capture a video from a computer screen
wow, amazing technology

Implessive

>>65324228
no, chang. I don't mourn for boomer politicians.

>>65324267
Damn, amazing how these real people just all disappeared at the same time after dumping all the script, then all come back in waves every some hours.

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>>65324230
>or even a crane
Isn't that what picrel is?
The first time I watched the video, I expect that to move around and catch the rocket and I had to look some more to understand the cable system.

>>65324230
>I hope Elon has less hubris
Anon, that isn't something I'd put my own money on.

>>65324228
>still pretending in his head like everyone on /k/ is a lindsey graham fanatic
we're TZD fanatics.

>>65324069
>mentioning something chinese on /k/ is likely to get you branded a shill because people are tired of trying to filter one good china thread out of the thousands of blatant shill threads
yep.
simple fact is: when most china threads are very clearly made in bad faith at the outset, people are just done with china as a whole, nobody's going to bother "finding out" whether or not this is a normal thread that doesn't immediately slide into subtle attempts and then not so subtle attempts at chinkshilling, it is just entirely rejected.

>>65324177
>It basically means china could hypothetically undercut spaceX on low cost launches by the end of the decade
hahaha, no.
most of the things you said are total horseshit, the main reason they're using this system rather than a catch arm is because spacex guidance is way better.

>>65324100
>The thing was swinging back and forth like a big pendulum while the barge rolled with the waves.
I'm curious what the solution to that is. Makes it hard to lower it down and weld it to the deck like SpaceX does
>>65324947 pic shows a grabby claw, but that wouldn't really work if it's swinging either.
Can you pull the cables taught to stabilize it?

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>one step closer to the red star alliance
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.

>>65324991
>Can you pull the cables taught to stabilize it?
That would lift the rocket up rather than stabilise it.
Lowering it to the deck could do so though.

>>65325068
>That would lift the rocket up rather than stabilise it.
Wouldn't more tension help counter the swinging? And wouldn't lowering it onto the deck while it's swinging be difficult as well?

>>65325084
>Wouldn't more tension help counter the swinging?
Tension shortens the cable, this raises the rocket. The input of kinetic energy from elevating it will probably accelerate the swing also. I suspect that having a firmer lever to pivot on would also increase the efficiency of the swing.

>And wouldn't lowering it onto the deck while it's swinging be difficult as well?
Probably, yes. I'd hate to have my hands on those controls.

Though a little slack in the cables would absorb some of the energy of the swing.
It's kind of a crazy idea to pitch to a project management committee but I can imagine a little process running in the cable system that monitors the swing and dynamically adjusts the tension in the cables selectively to absorb or resist the swing so as to bring the rocket to a stationary position.
So basically you'd have an AI process that did the equivalent of kicking and tucking on a playground swing to stop the swing dead.

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Not weapons.
>>>/sci/
>>>/out/
>>>/lgbt/

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>>65325114
>It's kind of a crazy idea to pitch to a project management committee but I can imagine a little process running in the cable system that monitors the swing and dynamically adjusts the tension in the cables selectively to absorb or resist the swing so as to bring the rocket to a stationary position.
Actually this makes a lot of sense. Probably less about tension and more about moving the anchor points. Like those ball balancing robots.

>>65324682
It's amazing how people don't sit on 4chan at all waking hours?

Implessive!

>>65324002
>>65324007
Oh look the guy who lets dogs fuck his ass

>>65324991
>solution to that is
Does there need to be any? A little bit of swing countering the boats roll isn't going to hurt it unless the swells were huge.
But to answer the question properly, they could use the rollers to stabilise, but I think this was just an early test anyway. After landing they could hypotetically attach more points to keep it stable and as we discussed earlier it has a crane to help.
>>65325216
Highly unusual.
I post in bursts of about 5 posts every 4-6 hours myself because that's about when there are enough comments on threads to reply to properly.
>>65325121
Rockets are as weapons ajacent as the marines. Did you forget the space force is a thing.
>>65326152
Kek

neat

>>65324984
>most of the things you said are total horseshit
Do you have anything productive to add?
It landed pretty centrally, seems like the chinks have pretty good accuracy to me and all my points seemed pretty valid, only you complained.
Catch arm has far higher risk, and is far more complex for little reason other than that Elon thought it looked cool to be like an airport.
>>65324978
That's your own fault, I've been able to ignore blatant shill threads for a decade at this point, it's like being mad at Tankie threads from 2008 onwards, there are still good threads about the equipment when the right posters turn up, you don't have to continue seething about it either.
>>65325114
Just let it swing. Unless it becomes harmonic there is no need to worry about swing too much anyway.
When the time comes to lay the rocket down or transport it, you just attach more cables to the bottom part and jobs a goodun.

>>65326203
>Does there need to be any?
I mean, uncontrollably swinging around a 20 story tall, 700 ton rocket booster with some amount of highly reactive fuel inside of a steel cage on a boat seems less than ideal. You want that it to be as secured as it can be.
There is a reason SpaceX welds their shit down asap

>>65324041
>Why do retards freak out when China does literally anything and try to downplay it?

Because China strong propaganda is a thing, that being said this was a genuine accomplishment.

>>65324069
>landing legs are heavier
In no way are the physics of the material stresses for the mass involved different, you've just moved a relatively insignificant amount of weight onto more significantly more external complexities.
Instead of a suspension and easily replaceable leg it is now additional points of failure with the entire cable system.

It is interesting, surely, and a novel approach. I just don't see the utility in minmaxxing for a few hundred kg of dry mass with something so much more complex. It is sure to be more failure prone unless constantly maintained to absolute by the book perfection.
And china is not a paragon of by the book.

>>65324109
>The cables won't be any slower than the chopsticks

Ignoring that the chopsticks are on the launch tower whereas this is a barge at sea.

>>65326357
Landing legs are not an insignificant amount of dry mass on a rocket, as other anons have pointed out this is why SpaceX has moved to its chopstick system.

>>65324177
>Wider capture area to make up for shortfalls or errors

You appear to think that Starships have to arrive at an exact point for the arms to grab it.

>>65326350
It is. Thinking through the CONOPs though, it isn't a terribly useful one. The best comparison is a Falcon 9 booster that managed to ditch hanging legs.

>>65324991
>Can you pull the cables taught to stabilize it?

There is a second set of cables that extend to hold on to the base afterwards, like how SpaceX has that little robot thing that comes out and grabs the base of a Falcon 9 when they land on a barge.

>>65325121
Rockets are weapons newfriend.

>>65324991
>Can you pull the cables taught to stabilize it?
No, the cables only provide support at the hooks. The wires must flex to avoid peak loads spiking to infinity and snapping, and additional anchor points are needed to secure the booster in three dimensions.

>>65326378
>hanging
What the fuck? I meant landing legs. And I can only assume that another, very tall crane is needed to get the rocket out of the barge, because unbalanced load shifts are no joke, and a crane's the only way to do it safely.

>>65326233
A (mostly) empty LM10 first stage is probably around 25-30 tons, its actually funny how light they are when not fueled.

>>65326378
Functionally it isn't much different than Falcon 9 or New Glenn barge landings, it still has to be ferried back to shore craned off the ship and processed.

>>65326406
Functionally, it's not that different, but it does require more moving parts. It works, but getting those legs off the booster adds a lot of complexity and/or extra size to everything else. Gut check is that this isn't an optimal trade space.

>>65326367
I didn't say a few hundred kg per leg is not insignificant, just I don't see the real functional gain over the full device's (including catcher/lander base or whatever) program operational lifetimes.
Just seems like an engineering payload-to-orbit minmax borne from an excel sheet.

>>65326380
I'm curious how they attach themselves
>>65326399
That's light for what it is, but still a lot of mass to be swinging around

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>>65326443
>I'm curious how they attach themselves

>>65324041
It's two groups. Those who think China hasn't developed in the last 50 years and still ride around on bicycles and depend on Soviet tech. And those who know China has become a threat but play it down so China can keep stealing and developing their own stuff without scrutiny.

The rocket catch is a genuine achievement and using the cables seem less error prone than SpaceX's system. But I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of China's reusable rocket tech was stolen from SpaceX.

>>65326505
Going by how it crushed part of the raceway, those lower lines seem to have been improvised by deck crews to stop the rocket from swaying.

>>65323923
>carriers are BAD
>no wait they're GOOD
>wait but the drones...
>b-b-but rockets...
Which way, buggy man? Surely your handlers won't let you double dip on your scripts, will they? It's time to choose, buggy man.
It's time to choose.
Either way, I'm glad to see communist West Taiwan no longer relies on mountains of peasants to cushion landings with their bodies. I'm sure the survivors were getting sick of the scent of burning flesh mixed with hydrazine.
>>65324037
I'm starting to think this thing is some reverse invert nega shill thing, he's always spelling the word wrong, but like wrong wrong, you dig? Like, how hard is it to swap a video of Russky Myr's finest fuckup for any number of West Taiwanese fireworks?

>>65326538
the chinese have shown a cable arrestor system and spacex has shown an arm system, I don't see how either is less reliable. especially with that cowbow stunt spacex showed off during the 2024 catch sequence. seems pretty reliable to me.
https://youtu.be/nVNIoQUcFI4&t=48
their normal catches look nothing short of textbook and dead easy
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Gi3ZcH7g_9c

seems easier than that cable thing.

>>65326619
The cable thing is incredibly easy because the entire envelope of the cage is available. As long as the booster can fire its engine, it can place itself inside the catch envelope. SpaceX's is significantly smaller, but the important thing is that they use a boostback burn to get back to the launch site with intent to recycle the rocket immediately. The Long March 10b is the product of technology that's too immature to begin thinking about a fast turnaround.

>>65326363
>Ignoring that the chopsticks are on the launch tower whereas this is a barge at sea.
Oh right, fair enough.

Then you need slightly more boosters in this system, to cover the lag from catch to launch.
Once you have those extra boosters though, you'd maintain the same tempo with no problem.

>>65326420
>getting those legs off the booster adds a lot of complexity and/or extra size to everything else
It moves the complexity and mass to the catch platform rather than the rocket, which is ideal.

>>65326505
Neat!

That will stabilise in 3 dimensions well enough.
I assume that claw in the background will come into play, either to brace it for transport or load/unload it or both.

>>65326544
>those lower lines seem to have been improvised by deck crews
Please do not contribute any further to this discussion.

>>65326750
>It moves the complexity and mass to the catch platform rather than the rocket, which is ideal.
Depends on the reliability of the catch system. There's a lot more moving parts there, more material, and more things that can go wrong. If you can keep iterating through the problems, this can get solved, but the choice of down-range landing still limits the ultimate launch rate.

>>65326621
>with intent to recycle the rocket immediately.
An Elon pipedream is not superior technology anon.

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>>65326759
>Please do not contribute any further to this discussion.
If they'd planned it, the rocket would have had eyelets and they'd only need to run two lines to prevent unwanted lateral motion.
>>65326761
>An Elon pipedream is not superior technology anon.
Most of Elon's pipe dreams have a funny way of happening anyway.

>>65326760
It's really simple though, it's wheels on a track with a motor.
We have millions of 3d printers and trains telling you it's a reliable technology, they also technically only need two or three lines to catch it not 4
The swinging arm is more complex by far, and is far riskier to land into for the rocket and all the other things.
>>65326769
Hey Elon, are we going to pretend the cybertruck and hyperloop aren't a thing, or neuralink even. We're also not at mars, I seem to recall you promised 2016?
You have a history of overpromising for hype and funding for hypung retarded investors and that's ok, but using speculation is kinda silly in this scenario, both systems could theoretically have quick turnarounds.
China could also theoretically use steel beams instead of wires for the same design result as Space X, though they'd have to use wires or geared motors anyway to "catch" it I guess.
Wires are fine for this size, a larger system would be needed for a starship scale rocket.

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>>65326790
>Hey Elon, are we going to pretend the cybertruck and hyperloop aren't a thing, or neuralink even. We're also not at mars, I seem to recall you promised 2016?
...have you not seen a Cybertruck in person? Pic related: Giga Texas' outbound lot two days ago.
Neuralink installed its first brain interface two years ago. The most recent thing they made news for is electrode implantation without cutting or removing the dura mater first.
>Wires are fine for this size, a larger system would be needed for a starship scale rocket.
It's all a matter of staying on top of maintenance. Salt water corrosion is a whore, and the most likely reason why something will end up breaking.

>>65324039
What's even worse have you seen the locations where chinks launch their rockets?

Its in deep inland near populated areas and these things crash into towns all the god dam time.

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>>65326790
>a decade late to the reusable rocket game
>elon has already launched more mass to orbit than all of humanity combined since the beginning of rockets
>calls anything he's done a pipe dream
It's time to sit down bro

>>65326821
>all the god dam time
Any proof? As far as i know it is only happen a handfull of time.

>>65326827
>Any proof? As far as i know it is only happen a handfull of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_in_spaceflight#By_rocket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_in_spaceflight#By_rocket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_in_spaceflight#By_rocket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight#By_rocket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_in_spaceflight#By_rocket

>>65326821
I like how the people get up close to the rockets while they're literally leaking red nitrogen dioxide vapors

>>65324177
The point of the chopsticks is to put the booster back on the launch mount, load a new Ship, and launch multiple times a day.

>>65326832
It also simplifies the logistics for moving the vehicles to and from the launch site.

I look forward to the land-based installation of this catch system, which will serve as the prelude to a wayward Dong March 10B annihilating an entire Chinese farming village, as it's gathered for a dogmeat festival to celebrate the raunch of this grorious, most implessive rocket.

>>65326829
Ok, so only around 10++ failure from 2022. It is more than handfull but not as much as you claim.

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>>65326848
Why are you having so many failures with so few launches?

>>65324007


The whole payload launch industry is moot and a dead end that will never come to full fruition. The planned scale of orbital constellations would destroy the ozone layer from the satellites burning in the atmosphere.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2024GL109280

>>65326889
Damn that's crazy you should stop developing rockets in that case, what a silly waste of time it is

>>65326895
IT completely kills SpaceX's financial viability. The volumes to make it a sustainable business will never be there.

>>65324177
>It basically means china could hypothetically undercut spaceX on low cost launches by the end of the decade, I imagine SpaceX will be copying China this time for low cost launches, and if they don't, they are fools.
>>65326901
>IT completely kills SpaceX's financial viability. The volumes to make it a sustainable business will never be there.

The dumb ass chink is contradicting himself, gloating about things that don't exist and never will come to fruition

>>65326907
I'm not the chinkshill, The same limit and problem applies to the Chinese as well.

>>65326913
>The same limit and problem applies to the Chinese as well.
better let em know space is a dead end, they're wasting their time and money
I seriously can't wait til nova, Terran R, neutron, starship and new glenn are operational, falcon 9 alone is absolutely ass raping china and it's tiny compared to those other full reusable platforms

>>65326741
Is this not just a proof of concept before they move on to landing on land?

>>65324041
Cool it with the antisemitism.

>>65326935
>Is this not just a proof of concept before they move on to landing on land?
We have no idea.

>>65326864
>AI
Anon, I ...

Arguing with chinkshills is an exercise in futility

>>65326975
So what is the most reliable rocket? I’ll wait for your answer (I know you won’t have one because I’m right)

>>65326984
Different Anon
>Most reliable
Atlas V, but it's no longer available.
>Most reliable and available
Falcon 9, and it's not even close.

>>65326984
Long March 10B.
No Cap.
It is going to cause scene here but bring it on.

>>65326761
>An Elon pipedream is not superior technology anon.

You sound just like the leadership of Europes launch industry a few years ago when they dismissed reuse.

>>65326990
Falcon 9 has more launch failures than Atlas V but a lower failure rate due to having launched 6x as often.

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>>65326544
>those lower lines seem to have been improvised by deck crews
which is why they're on the same mechanism as the upper cables
because it was improvised
makes sense
>>65326769
>If they'd planned it, the rocket would have had eyelets and they'd only need to run two lines
The problem is that it's a 20 story tall, 30+ ton mass swinging in an uncontrolled manner.
They can't just clip some bungee cords to it, they need something that can grab onto it while it's moving

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>>65326741
This is obviously more comparable to Falcon 9 than Starship

>>65327075
>which is why they're on the same mechanism as the upper cables
>because it was improvised
What else could they anchor it to? There's nothing else there to even think about trying it with, planned or unplanned.
Look at how many lines they ran, and look at how they interacted with the rocket, and tell me with a straight face that they planned it that way.

>>65327147
>Look at how many lines they ran, and look at how they interacted with the rocket, and tell me with a straight face that they planned it that way.
It's literally exactly the same as the mechanism which caught it in the first place. How could you possibly think it was unplanned?