What are the wider implications of Flamingos now being equipped with French guidance systems, new European booster rockets, and manufactured at scale in the EU?
>>65324056I just wish that Ukraine would use the Flamingos to target the Black Sea and Baltic fleets
>>65324056When will they be ready >>65324056
>>65324062They won't use them against the Baltic fleet as long as the threat of jamming still exists.
>>65324056>So called UkraineI know this is a zigger state controlled source, they really can't help themselves pretending Ukraine isn't a real nation it's part of the media breifing.
>>65324092
Why won't russia just distribute iglas to their citizens to shoot down these missiles?
>>65324056>>65324167https://youtube.com/watch?v=V8aQ8Tnz8Q4Pink flamingo,A child of a sunset,Pink flamingoUsed to dance here once. It could have been in some previous life -hard to recall.Just think of something nice,I may grant your wish.
>>65324056the last flamingo strike all got shot down. they need to make them fly lower to the ground
Why are Russians scared of Flamingo's when the Bongs produced three types of cruise missiles (free of US parts) and plan to give them to Ukraine? If Ukraine has multiple cruise missiles and Flamingos and drones, then TRD will keep continuing.
>>65324217Nah, just need more of them.Russian aviation only has so many planes.
>>65324056>What are the wider implicationsUkrainian technology is not as great as they claimed, since as always they turn back to NATO tech
>>65324244Have you ever considered that collaboration with systems that are already tested saves money and creates a more effective product.Ukraine only has so many people, they tap into the expertise of Europeans with 20x their current population and that's ok.
>>65324247No-no, it means that they are NAFO roosters and there are copious amounts of not gay gay sex taking place right now
>>65324217They have like 5 AWACS, they just need more.
I always held that the only problem of V-1 was the primitive guidance of the time. There will always be a place for something with the form factor of V-1 even if as air defense bait until it degrades.
>>65324183Giberish.
>>65324244>turn back to NATO techFree tech is good tech.
>>65324247>they tap into the expertise of Europeans with 20x theirintelligence and experience and technological development, because Ukrainians were themselves snowniggers until 2013.I don't have a problem with that. The whole point of this war is that Ukraine is trying to free themselves of the USSR and that is why they are deserving of our help. If they were just fighting to be a different flavour of snownig, they can fuck off.But if I had a dollar for every time I've been called a vatnik for doubting that Ukrainian tech is suddenly better, faster, stronger and harder than NATO tech, hoo boy, believe I could afford a very good steak dinner
>>65324056Who's making the jet engines for them?
>>65324436> Ivchenko AI-25guess
>>65324056It pretty obviously means that Russia is going to have to first denazify NATO before they can finish denazifying Ukraine.
>>65324451Holy shit. Being the rust belt of the former-USSR has its benefits sometimes, I guess.
>>65324463
>>65324062Hot take:They'll use them against the Caspian navy.Specifically, before 2029 they'll have rendered the Caspian sea as unusable for Russian shipping as the Azov sea is right now.
>>65324056The implication is that Europe is increasingly working towards Total Vatnigger Death. With luck they’ll help Ukraine inflict suffering on the subhuman vermin that makes the 40s look like a joke.
>>65324056>a relatively simple targetThen why do they get through?
>>65325454at least it's not a boeing
>>65324056>>65325454
>>65324407lyrics never translate well
>>65324062No, no. The Pacific Fleet. Paint the rising sun on them too.
>>65324058>Calling a weapon to kill a productIs there anything more kino in modern warfare?
>>65325613
>>65325802The real questiion is:Where does Rybar hide the money FirePoint paid him for the ad?
>>65324058Man I love when range visualizations stop looking like circles on mercator projections. It makes it look like pumping a stat too high in a game and breaking the mechanics.
>>65324411>But if I had a dollar for every time I've been called a vatnik for doubting that Ukrainian tech is suddenly better, faster, stronger and harder than NATO techYou'd have 0 dollars because you'd be arguing with straw men.
>>65324056they need better nose art since shark mouths are boring and cliche
>>65325870Just ask the Luftwaffe, they paint shit in random 'taste the rainbow' livery at times.
the sales pitch of the flamingo used to be "sure it's a piece of crap with 9% hit rate but at least it's cheap"with euroshit in it, it will no longer be cheap. whether it stops being a piece of crap remains to be seen
>>65325916>when the slaves in the factories got uppity and artistic
>>65326020yeah I'm sure strapping modern guidance system is going to double the price
>>65324463>The Soviet Union just upped and dumped thousands of engines in junkyardsFucking really?
>>65326738yeah, its hard to believe isn't it.That statemant is almost like the one that usually pitched by used car salesman.
>>65326020>he thinks Ukrainians are paying for the guidance system
>>65324463Mad Max cruise missiles were not on my bingo card when this war started.
I liek Mingoes.
>>65326020I don't think the guidance will increase the cost in a meaningful way. To my understanding the most expensive and logistically worst part is the engine So we might see those black rockets turned to green on the diagram, not much else will change.Also Flamingos are sadly mostly a PR product. All other FP weapons are where it is at. They are just not that sexy and intimidating to look at.
>>65325870>Good old shark mouths, nothing beats that
>>65326851>Also Flamingos are sadly mostly a PR producttell that to Titan-barikady
>>65325870I say keep it simple and just use a sharpie to write OwO on the front.
>>65326890Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>65325870Paint realistic glans and veins, I've heard Russians love BBC.
>>65324463>I'm putting you together for one last job
Isn't the biggest bottleneck of flamingo production the engine?Have they sourced another engine yet? Because the current one has limited stockpiles available for use.
>>65326738Beyond (notoriously poor) service life limits, and unable to be inspected for safety from the rudimentary state of USSR's NDT tech. Necessity now finds value in "garbage" with better-than-even odds of powering a one way trip.
>>65324463>"Hi there landfill manager. Could you point us to the lot with all those old jet engines in the thousands? We kinda need them.">"Lot number 90/12. About time someone came to recycle em.">>65327076>Music to my ears comrade.
>>65327084They're doing testing on a domestic production engine, but it'll be months/years before it can scale up for mass production.
>>65326890I'm not saying that FP5 don't work. All I'm saying is that the hype is much larger than the actual impact of them. Quite the opposite of FP1 and FP2.
>>65326020>repeating the old zigger propaganda againIt's afraid.
>>65327325they are hyped because Ukraine already had long range drones but it's only domestic cruise missile. There are drones that can perform FP1 or FP2 mission, there are no missiles that can perform FP5 role
>>65324056More suns!
>>65327632omg teh nuuk!
>>65324056>There will be more flamingoes
>>65326851>To my understanding the most expensive and logistically worst part is the enginethey are apparently adding European boosters as well>>65326890what about it? factories in ww2 got pounded much harder but nobody was able to bomb enemy production to a standstill
>>65325870Bullet Bill would be a fun alternative.
>>65326851>I don't think the guidance will increase the cost in a meaningful way.good guidance is expensive, especially if the enemy employs jamming or whatever. if the flamingo uses shitty guidance then that would explain why it literally can't hit the broad side of a barn (routinely misses massive industrial complexes entirely)
>>65328787just a regular Rammstein show
>>65329328>(routinely misses massive industrial complexes entirely)Russian warbloggers claimed they were easier to shoot down because they're bigger and have a jet enginenot sure iif that was just a lie, if they're huffing copium and the Flamingos just crash, or if this was a tiny grain of actual truth frmo Russian AD
>>65329496At least in more recent strikes, Flamingos were launched at longer ranges at more important targets, while being far less numerous than the dronespam we've seen against oil infrastructure. Scrambling Sukhois against 9999 drones isn't worth it, but a half-dozen large cruise missiles on the other hand are
>>65328926WW2 saw a lot more bombs dropped, but accuracy was such that they were not always dropped on the right city, let alone close enough to damage their target. One bomber today is more able to take out its target than a hundred were then.
>>65324217>last flamingo strike all got shot downsource?
>>65328944>Bullet Bill would be a fun alternative.I think that actually is Bullet Bill/Banzai Bill.There's been quite a few different versions of him over the years.
>>65329617There is footage of Flamingos getting downed on approach to the refinery. There is neither footage nor satellite imagery to indicate the refinery was damaged. They rolled bad and flew over an air defense site that slipped under the radar. Happens sometimes.
>>65328944>nintendo sends their death squads to Ukraine
>>65329858About bloody time.
>>65324056I guess the cost per missile would increase, and it means the guidance system wasn't great originally. Or that the people working on guidance systems can make it for other weapons. Would increase the general speed of weapon production.
>>65329847What the fuck is that bottom-left one?
>>65330108That's King Bill.https://www.mariowiki.com/King_Bill
>>65326020So, they will "only" triple hit probability? Yeah a nothingburger.
>>65329328How would you jam internal targeting system? I mean, they know the missile's course, they have sattelite images of the targets, they can load the "should be" image into the guidance system and use a camera and a CO2 tank with a few valves to adjust that on terminal trajectory.
>>65329533>. Scrambling Sukhois against 9999 drones isn't worth it, but a half-dozen large cruise missiles on the other hand areThat might be an explanation.
>>65329858>Nintendo's main office gets razed by a Spiderweb-like OPBudda doesn't take kindly to assasins in Ukraine and delivers his karmic justice swiftly.
>>65330132>I mean, they know the missile's course, they have sattelite images of the targets, they can load the "should be" image into the guidance system and use a camera and a CO2 tank with a few valves to adjust that on terminal trajectory.You send up an interceptor drone that holds up a picture of the refinery in front of the missile but a few degrees off while flying back to stay in front of the missile, the missile gradually goes off course seeking after the image.
>>65330132Keep trucks full of bunker oil around the factory and set them on fire if you hear that drones are getting through the outer air defenses. Create a smokescreen that blocks optical targeting.
>>65331759>haha stupid hohols you can't destroy our oil if we burn it first :))
>>65324058I have an erection now.
>>65331801If it lasts to long go see a Doctor or watch of those videos of those Russian "women" complaining about gasoline.
>>65329858Russia did bootleg and pirate a lot of old Nintendo games in the early '90s. It's enough probable cause for the Big N.
>>65324058I think the ukies have officially passed V1 status and have officially started snarkmaxxing
>a water bottle will save the russia
Zigzogs seething from the gas line are astoundingly retard>picrel, ziggy piggy seeing another refinery go
Please god put a pulse jet in them it would be so fucking funny
>>65325870Marichka pinups?
>>65332410the fuck is that video even meant to show?I know vatniggers love to reach, but what the fuck is there even to reach for here?
>>65332410>>65332677I’m also genuinely confused. I can normally speak tardese but I’m baffled.
>>65332410>>65332677>>65332682If you're referring to >>65332397 then it's a joke about the EU bottle caps which are now attached to the bottle, which Zelensky rips off, like everyone else in EU.
>>65332718that's fucking pathetic
>>65332718Is that the level of turdie cope? Holy shit.
>>65332677>>65332682>>65332718They should have attached it to their picrel and tank turrets instead, maybe then they wouldn't tend to fly away
>>65332718>like everyone else in EU.Lies, true EU citizens have mastered the attached bottle cap technique.
>>65329858Their death squads have all committed ritual sudoku after failing to murder the Palworld devs (just hit 1.0 release).
>>65333031>true EU citizens have mastered the attached bottle cap techniqueIt's bizarre the what ziggerbots fixate on as potential points of division.As if plastic bottle caps are more important to Europeans than fucking Russia up.
>>65333050Russians are experts in whataboutism. You complain about the USSR, "well the US lynched negros". Complain about their shitty tanks, "well the Shermans were a death trap".
>>65332397LMAOing at the Spanish PM in the background checking his phone and looking awkward because he just learned his brother lost his misconduct trial and is now banned from public office.
>>65333050I think it's mostly a meme anon.
>>65332718Amazing how ziggers focus on shit absolutely nobody cares about.
>>65333102That's one thursty man right there
>>65333109>That's one thursty man right thereIt's the president of Haiti making a speech to the UN asking for respect, dude is probably sweating bullets.And I think anyone in charge of Haiti is allowed to have a drinking problem.It's funnier in /gif/ format because he fucks it up and soaks his suit.
>>65333050It doesn't work because we're already aware that the shitty caps are a russian psyop meant to sow dissent within the EU.
>>65333202
guys, what's worse? dealing with a cap attached to a bottle or getting your infrastructure droned into oblivion?
>>65332718Wow, that’s the pettiest thing I have ever seen from Russia shills.
>>65333339Depends on whether the mandatory anal rape is homo or not.
>>65332410Wouldn’t be the first time a bottle led to war
>>65324463>>65324471>Taras Stark built in a cave! With a box of scraps!
>>65332410Yes, they'll sit on it
>>65324167V1A1, my beloved
>>65329617Alas they did pass over an unknown AD position.
>>65329617Ruslims got lucky with their AWACS, they've detected the missiles early on and figured out the route the missiles were taking, so they were able to scramble jets and intercept them.