How come there's never been any militia/minuteman/oogabooga group that has modelled itself off of motorcycle clubs? In the sense that you have vetting processes, you have full "patched" members, you have monthly dues, and the organization builds up wealth to the point where it starts creating LLC's and businesses that can start generating revenue to the point where members can start actually making money? Combined with charity events for them tax write offs. And since it would be a more serious organization, guys will actually grow a history with each other and a greater attachment to communities. That is all to say, you would end up with organizations that would actually fill the role of being a real "minuteman" militia blah blah blah whatever you want to call it? It could even start to get political since it would have some pull too.Why has nobody done this? Everything is just a fucking larp with two or three other guys where you just mag dump at trash or bring yourself to bankruptcy from buying gucci gear and equipment.
Because 90% of people attracted to the idea of being part of a militia imagine themselves as being elite operators clearing buildings of nameless 'bad guys' in a post-civil war America as an excuse to buy expensive range toys, but have absolutely no desire to commit to anything approaching training. 9% are the exact same but imagine committing ethnic genocide. Then for the final percentage, 0.9% fall into the above groups but actually find likeminded people and run around the woods larping.The final 0.1% are the people that recognize that a militia is going to overwhelmingly be a group that should invest in hardware tools, not guns
You mean like Oath Keepers?
>>65325793>>65325772Because riding around on motorcycles with guns on your back would be the fastest way imaginable to get arrested in the US. It's also the fastest way imaginable to get yourself shot if militias actually were in use. You no longer have to contemplate your fucking idiotic question, and we can end the thread now.
>>65325838I'm not saying they literally form a motorcycle club anon. I'm saying they mirror the organization and (legal) businesses of them. At least the smart ones anyways.
>>65325839Because anything branded as a militia, whether an actual militia or not (militias are illegal in the US, by the way) would be 99% feds.
>>65325846It's not a militia. It's a "club".
This is pretty much how every insular group operates to benefit themselves. Create organizations with strong vetting processes that enable the pooling of wealth which is then used to invest in business where revenue is divvied back across the organization. Rinse repeat to keep it growing.
>>65325852Then i refer you to my point about the "club" being full of fees. They will either prove you're an unlawful militia, or frame you as one anyways.
>>65325865Feds, not fees. Though I suppose a club would have fees as well.
>>65325865>Doing nothing but legal activities and legal business>"the feds will infiltrate and bring you downThe US hasn't fully gone minority report just yet. You still have to actually commit a crime first.
>>65325772If a large group of people collectively assemble and train with guns, the government will know about it immediately and put them all in prison.
>>65325872You stated in the op that they would be minutemen and boogaloos. Are you saying they wouldn't be doing ANY activities indicative of a militia? Then what kind of club would they be? Why call them boogaloo if they aren't at least pretending to do boog shit? If you get ten armed men with Hawaiian shirts in the same room, 11 of them will be feds.
>>65325885There is nothing illegal with establishing shooting clubs and training. They're not operating in either an official or unofficial capacity to that of a militia. By your logic, any civilian group who meets up to train is an unlawful militia. Any organization that offers training, even just things like pistol or self defense training is an unlawful militia.
>>65325895Look, if they can be made to look like a militia in court, they will be. It doesn't matter if they are really a militia or not. You used the term minutemen, were you implying that they ARE a militia, or are larping as one? If the answe is the former, then it will be immediately shut down by feds. If the answer is the latter, then they will be infiltrated by feds regardless, and anyone who joins who is not a fed will quickly leave because a group branding themselves as a militia that doesn't do militia stuff is fucking gay.
>>65325927From a purely legal standpoint. It is a legal organization of likeminded individuals who come together and associate over an activity. For mountain climbers, it climbing mountains. For motorcycle enthusiasts, it's riding motorcycles. This would be no different. And from a business perspective. It is a means to network and establish legal businesses through LLC's, corporations, non-profit and for-profit donations, etc. Every group that is successful in this country operates on the same principle: It's not about what you know, it's about who you know. To view this as illegal would legally demand that all similar networking organizations and groups be viewed the same way. Ethnic groups like African American organization, Jewish organizations, hell even Ivy league schools since the vast majority of students are from families who are already in the "cool kids club" (politicians, rich business families/dynasties, etc).
>>65325772The line of thinking is rational but it never plays out like this. One careless use of group power disturbing the community, if left resolved less than satisfactory, is enough for the group to decay all the way into gang of meat heads doing crimes to stay afloat until eventually taken down by the authority or another gang in shitty country where authority does nothing. Money all went up in the nose and mere association is enough to tarnish the reputation so no upstanding person that thinks about other people in his life would join them.
The moment you start accepting people off the street youre gonna get feds eager to take your group down coming in. They convince one retard to violate the NFA and its over.
