>See's Italy's adopting a new rifle>Looks inside>M4 cloneEvery new service rifle will be a partial or complete M4 clone and you WILL like it.
I WILL like it because the M4 is great
Turns out once you swap out the shitty buffer tube and add a bit of chrome the AR-15 is the perfect rifle
>>65325969>bit of chromewhere?
>>65325968The M4 is like "The Chosen One" In books. Sure they are great, but its so overused it's gotten boring. This also applies somewhat less so to the AK.
>>65325994yeah, but it's like the original "chosen one", so it gets a pass that all the copies don't.
>>65326004Only if it has an A2 on it.
>M4 = slopftfy OP
>>65325964>Looks inside>M4 cloneIt's a short stroke gas piston, you fucking retard. It's an AR18 in a different shell, just like 99/100 new military rifles.
>>65325969>Turns out once you swap out the shitty buffer tube>he says, talking about a rifle that very obviously has an AR buffer tube, damn thing literally has a magpul CTR on itare you like retarded or what?
>>65326066Its just the tube. There is no buffer or spring inside. They also have a folding stock version.
>>65326092yeah, and yet they're using that because it's better than shitass folding stocks. AR buffer tube the best.
>>65325972inside the bore of the barrel and bcg duh. also inside the gas block. yknow what chrome the whole bcg inside and out. AND the inside of the dust cover. and the lining of the flash hider. magazine well too just to be safe
>>65326066No, I'm talking about the shitty original Edgewater buffer tube assembly that was replaced in 1966
>>65326170ohhhhhh, you were talking about the XM16. I thought you meant the NARP.t. guy who asked the chrome
>>65326170okay, so you are retarded.
>>65326179If you could tell me what I said that was retarded I'm all ears
>>65326189>thread about the NARP and M4>brings up the fukken xm16e1-->M16a1 out of nowhere
>>65326189>bring up irrelevant bullshit out of nowhere as if it has relevancePretty retarded.
>>65325994It’s “overused” because it’s the best. War isn’t a fashion show for hipsters.
>>65326196Personally I think the major changes that turned the AR-15 (of which the M4 is a variant of) into one of the most successful infantry rifles ever fielded is slightly relevant as to why, as OP put it:>Every new service rifle will be a partial or complete M4 clone and you WILL like it
>>65326243>Uh I want to talk about changes that happened decades before the M4 ever existed, they have nothing to do with this conversation but I really want to talk about them!Retarded.
>>65326249I was happy enough to leave my comment as it was, the debate sparked by your claim that this is irrelevant information has taken up the majority of this thread. But as >>65326047 pointed out OP is wrong about it being an M4 clone, so the entire basis for this debate is wrong.
>>65326267It's okay man, I'm glad you watched a forgotten weapons video today
>>65326047Everyone's been using AR-18 systems in different shells for decades but apparently NOW they all have to look like fucking AR-15s and I hate it.
>>65325994>This also applies somewhat less so to the AK.AK had all of the last 40~ years of that title. With optics, lasers, suppressors and attaching shit to rifles, AK is hitting it's dead end unless they put more effort into giving it a face lift that isn't the AK12.
>>65326576>NOW they all have to look like fucking AR-15s and I hate it.it's either AR15 look or extruded aluminum with pic rails look (SCAR, Bren, etc)
Here, I fixed your AR-15.
>>65325964It's like the crab evolution thing but for rifles
>>65325964EUGENE STONER SUPREMACY
Bros I miss kino fishguns so much...
>>65326606>made it worseflash hiders existno need supressorrifle is fine
>>65325964I thought America was the villain? Why is everyone just making the AR?
>>65326647White Americans is the villain, hope that helps.
>>65325964I thought rear charging handles sucks and forward assist is useless, why do people keep adding them into their m4 copy?
>>65327183This looks so much better.
>>65325964>accurate>reliable>proven>mature ecosystem>parts commonality with virtually every other NATO countrywhy WOULDN'T you pick an AR clone?
>>65325964It's sad that it seems like the whole world has come to the agreement that the average soldier is too retarded to figure out how to use a side charging handle, and now we're stuck with the AR15's stupid charging handle
>>65325964Complaining that every modern rifle is an "m4 clone" is like claiming that every car is a "Cadillac clone" because you use your feet to accelerate and brake and a wheel to steer.
>>65327492More like crying about every car turning into Toyota/kia because every car look the same with the same ugly color
>>65327492Many of these supposed AR15 clones are actually ACR clones in an AR15 bodykit. See sig mcx.