Deployment of a combat drone equipped with a machine gun using a marine drone.Kinburn Spit.
>>65326921That little drone hit anything but the target.
>>65326921Air drones have proven to be a real deal but I guarantee these UGVs will prove to be wunderwaffen. Big, slow, highly visible, emitting like a mother fucker, there's no way it'll replace human assault teams
>>65326921>Ukraine provided dollar-store D-day before Russia could>doesn't lose any guys doing it>>65326921Fuck you OP, You posted seven minutes before it even showed up in my feed.
>>65326932They can be sentry guns, at least.You know, since Russians are truly Xenomorphs.
>>65326921>limited battery and no way to recharge did they just deliver the ziggers a free machine gun?
>>65326957What made you think he didn't have explosives to blow himself up?
>>65326944Please not to insult xenomorphs.
>>65326961>so we're going to boat over this expensive robot to pop off a few rounds then blow itself upo..okay
>>65326932Nope. ADTWME (Always Do The War Math Equation). You can afford to lose clankers. Humans, however yokel bumfucker they are, take at least 18 years to bring up to adulthood, and lots of money to train. If they get injured, you have to take care of them until they die. If they KIA, you get a morale penalty to their families and the public. Clankers are cheap AND can be used for frontal assaults without caring for casualties. Heck, put bombs in them and send them to kamikaze when their bullets run out. Human assault soldiers are deprecated.
>>65326970The robot was deployed to destroy the radar stations located there.There are no people on this land because it is too dangerous for anyone to be there.
>>65326921They're a little overrated.
>>65326957somehow i dont think a singular machine gun in contested territory is a big deal
Future military doctrine is going to include a swarm of kamikaze drones battering the enemy position before a 100 of these little robo-dudes banzai charge themselves into the fray. It's gonna be awesome.
>>65326924>king of sniper
>>65326944This post is xenophobic. The xenomorph is an apex species, the russian has just learned that ass is in ass.
>>65326921this is implessive tier but whatever
>>65326944Xenomorphs actually pulled back and stopped doing wave attacks after taking enough casualties, its a plot point that saves the Marines since the turrets were almost dry
>>65326932Meat is expensive, metal is cheap, plus metal doesn't get tired, hungry or scared.
>>65326924He's trying his best ok :<
>>65326944>What do you mean "THEY cut the power"? How could they cut the power, man? They're animals!
>>65326932They've proven effective in two ways: point defense, and frontline logistics.>Point defenseSuperior to a sentry gun because of the ability to reposition. They are ideal for holding small strongpoints, i.e. an isolated trench or a small building. There was famously a case (almost a year ago now, I think) of a Ukrainian experimental UGV solo holding a trench position for 6 weeks. Not UGVs plural, one UGV, that would only leave the front for 1-2 hours at a time to get batteries and ammo resupplied. It held up against multiple assaults and was not destroyed, they just declared the trial successful and pulled it off the line after 6 weeks. Since then I've seen a lot of similar UGVs in footage, I think it may be their default combat model now.>LogisticsThis one is pretty straightforward. You can bring food, water, and ammo out to forward positions that would be hazardous to reach with a team of guys. If it gets blown up oh well, send another. This is basically how russian "logistics" operate now except they use men instead of UGVs, and that is why we have literally 1000+ mobiks getting FPV'd in open fields every single day, and why most of them are alone - they're mules. A UGV is always more expendable and as an added bonus, doesn't need to haul its own supplies of food water and ammo like a soldier does. Also, they've proven to be really nice for casualty evacuation, and honestly I expect this will be the first and major way we see UGVs integrated with Western (American) ground forces. Every single one of those replaces a team of 2-3 men that would be a litter team - and since one of those is supposed to be the squad medic, this also means you can keep doc up at the front.As for offensive missions, those are still in the experimental phase for sure. The tech is rough right now, but it will evolve.
>>65326932ahem
To that guy who thought these things were worse to fight than a BMP I present you this evidence.
>>65326924thats why i think these things should be outfitted with grenade launchers insteadbut some other anon told me they jam too much, is there any solution to that? like maybe a chaingun that fires grenades instead
>>65327284UGVs for CASEVAC and carrying stuff (EW gear, generators, food, ammo and so on) were already in tests before 2022 in the west.I think we will see UGVs as 'base stations' for essentially tethred UAVs with optics/thermals, with some autonomy built in, just to maintain surveillance over an area. An operator just has to act whne/if something gets detected, that way one operator can cover a lot more frontage.
>>65327348Out of the box, no.But some old aircraft cannons like the (in)famous MK 108 had a compressed air system to clear jamsAnd that thing was pretty much a grenade launcher
>>65326932>replacethey don't have to, they enhance the human element, they can be used as the recon element, because the enemy has to react to them
>>65326921Discount D day but the discount is in human lives
>>65327301I never understood the point of Skynet making full on armies of these things. OK you need a bipedal assault troop for...some reason. Why go through the manufacturing difficulty of giving it detailed skull like features? Why the human teeth? Why binocular vision limited to the human FOV instead of 360 degree awareness?>le filmFuck I know but come on a hostile AI with mass manufacturing capability should be able to build something better and more efficient than that for line infantry. Save the super detailed shit for infiltrators. Also why did they all look the same? Shouldn't it have figured out it can build bots and print flesh suits in any human shape?
>>65327371terminator 1 wasn't this way
>>65327371Originally, T800s were mostly infiltrator units while the brunt of Skynet's forces were tanks and aerial platforms.Also Skynet is completely fucking retarded and continued to get more retarded as the series dragged on.
>>65326924Could be useful for loitering.
>>65326921Offload a drone on the shore. The drone then proceeds to shoot an installation located further down the shore. Just exactly what does this ground drone do that a drone boat could not do?
>>65327371It wasn't communicated on screen but that future war scene where you see them in T2 was Skynets last stand so it was throwing whatever it had left directly onto the frontlines. Those were incomplete infiltrator units rather basic foot soldier units thrown directly from the factory into battle as a final act of desperation to hold back the human attack. You wouldn't get it from watching the film but the humans are meant to be on the offense not defense in that battle.Later media has no excuse though.
>>65327371>I never understood the point of Skynet making full on armies of these things.that was never the plan, that was its last ditch effort to stop the Resistance from getting to its central hub, the main "bulk" of its army was the hunter killer drones and threaded terminators, with T800s as the infiltration units
>>65327404This is equivalent to SOF doing a raid to destroy a specific enemy installation, you could also use it to drop sensors of your own, seems more like a proof of concept, I'd bring a UGV that can deploy FPV drones.
>>65326924Baby steps. Don't forget where we started, you are early.
>>65327515These Redbull adds are getting out of hand
>>65326944>You know, since Russians are truly Pidormorphs.fixed
>>65327515>from shitty Pepsi can bombs to consistently droning Puccia's fuel industry into collapseThis war really is one hell of a joyride
>>65327413>>65327421Thank you, that makes way more sense.
>>65327360yeah thats why i was proposing something like a chaingun, since those are electrically operated, they shouldnt jamof course a normal chaingun would be too heavy for this little fella, thats why i was thinking something like a grenade launcher chaingun
>>65327539And to think we had ziggers complaining about offtopic about all the sweet kino we were getting despite the syrian threads being fine for years.Makes you wonder if they were real people all along, they have since resorted to shilling other boards and denegrating /k/ elsewhere instead hoping others dismiss us.
>>65326932UGVs have already held positions for weeks, they only had to restock ammo every now and then.
>>65326921Could these be used to cross the Dniepro River and create bridgeheads for infantry without risking loses? Afaik the whole area west of Melitopol is fucked because of the fuel shortages, and most of Russia's infantry are stuck in the Donetsk getting cube'd in Konstantinovka. Idk what's going on over in Kherson though, or if Ukraine has the manpower to spare for an offensive in Kherson. I know the Dniepro and the risks involved with crossing it is what's preventing any fun offensives over there, but idk why else you would need drone landing craft.Would it make strategic sense to try and retake Kherson oblast, to contest Crimea and force Russia to relocate manpower in a brownout prone region? Or am I just being retarded
>>65326932They're a bit scetchy for offensive operations, but they have absolutely helped Ukraine to hold the line.And with UAV support they could actually become viable for offensive operations.
>>65327020Okay but did they actually destroy the radar? Or just boat over a mg, pop off a few round and film it for paypiggie donos out west?
>>65326932Combined arms, as always.>UGV-launched UAVs>USV-launched UAVs>USV-launched UGVsreally>all-the-things launching all-the-drones
>>65327622Why do russians seeth and gnash their teeth at countries a fraction of their size like they invaded and raped them 5 years ago, when they are always the ones doing the invading.
>>65327917I think it was more of a proof of concept for the Ukrainians as well as them telling the Russians "Hey, we can land UGVs anytime we want anywhere in occupied Kherson." Especially since the Russians were screaming up and down that the Ukrainians were planning a beach landing either in Kherson or Crimea
War will become unfathomably gay and lame, innit?
>>65328527>he doesn't wanna see robots blast the fuck out of each other with increasingly absurd weapons and counter measuresyou're the only homo here, gayboy. I look forward to battlebots with guns and explosives.
>>65328256Because seeing them doing margianally (or significantly) better than themselves stirs their slave genes and they can't stand it. Everyone from the old soviet block has to be like them or worse off.
>>65327284>Point DefenseThis also scales up really well, a marginally more expensive control rig refit can do the same thing for a main battle tank, especially compared to the costs required to keep a crew alive in old 80s-meta hulls with the current threat environment. Prepared positions minimize the major difficulty of navigation, at which point it's just WoT/WT from camping spot in defilade with 2-4 great firing points, a single operator affair. Similar to how old WW2 tanks ended up encased in concrete as border or airfield fortifications, or disappearing-gun coastal forts.
>>65326924Motherfucker... "most amazing thing ever? LIKE WHATEVER!"Fuck you I love it and it's cooler than shit.HAIL THE DRONE D DAY!!!
>>65328875Yes, and the Ukrainians knew this, so they tried to leave the Russian sphere of influence and join the west, in the hope that things would improve for them like they have for other former eastern block countries. How dare they try and crawl out of Russia's crab bucket!
>>65328941I understand you have quotas to meet, but that's a really shitty attempt. Let's hope you can suck off your supervisor well enough to avoid becoming this month's drone sacrifice.
>>65327017Humans are actually pretty cheap.In the long run sure they're a loss comparatively, but they're a resource to dip into that can outcost clankers in the short term, they're just an AK and some bullets and food.Yes, it cost food and 18 years human labor to bring it up, but that doesn't matter since that's not a war cost, that's a before and after the war cost. Yes, in future clankers will be cheaper if you stock up, but human labor will always be cheap to dip into if you don't care about the future.
>>65327662>Could these be used to cross the Dniepro RiverAnon you are looking at video of it being used across the Dniepro and taking the landing under firecontrol (if not that accurately).
>>65328947Sure, whatever makes your last months on this world seem a little less unbearable.
>>65328941>shelled their own population for 8 yearsohwowitsfuckingnothing.jpg
>>65328964>Humans are actually pretty cheap.No they are not. Besides the cost of arming and training, for a state the loss of a soldier is the loss of the cumulative tax and productivity for the rest of their life had they lived.
>>65328941>and wouldn't have shelled their own population for 8 yearsAnd then Russia turned those people into cannon fodder after “saving” them.
>>65328970When an idiot pull out the dead donbabwian children you know they are a true retard.
>>65327020I wonder what unlucky squad of vatniks got the job to run in there and set up the radar in the first place
>>65328963>ukrainians can't really blame their supposed attachment to russia for their problemsyes they can, are you a retard? Russia has had their puppets rotting Ukraine from the inside for decades and the arming and encouragement of separatists has been a massive drain on its resources. Meanwhile Belarus gets handled with kids gloves for playing along.
>>65328983Girkin is a great example.
>>65328985>zelensky promised to resolve the conflict when he first got elected but he didn't actually accomplish anythingI think everyone should be reminded that Zelensky was the peace with Russia president and this whole war is because Monke wanted banan.
>>65328976Reminder that the Donetsk Separatist Army had +100% casualties over three and a half (3.5) years ago.
>>65328985>in a first-world country that number would be zero.Read the reports, it was mainly civies walking into russian minefields.
>>65327348>>65327360>>65327609Are weapon systems being made for drones at all? You think a new platform would be created specifically for unmanned weapon systems.
>>65328976Fuuuck you just reminded me of a photo of a couple separatist soldiers that had been pushed to the front in old ass Soviet bucket helmets and mosins early in the war.Someone greyed the photo out and it looked like it could've come off of any part of the WW2 Russian front. I wish I'd saved it.
>>65329000I see you are new to shilling on /k/, yes Russia does try to install puppets in all former Soviet states with varying degrees of success and failures.
>>65329000its the playbook of all kleptocrats, you can extract more value out of a more dysfunctional state, than a richer better functioning state.
>>65328973>for a state the loss of a soldier is the loss of the cumulative tax and productivity for the rest of their life had they lived.that quantity can be very low or even negative depending on the person
>>65329015Why would Russia support a separatist movement in Belarus?
>thread sliding into muh Ukraine corruption #2957What is burning in Russia this time?
>>65327622>denegrating /k/ elsewhere instead hoping others dismiss us.No. Stop. Don't gatekeep /k/ for meHow will the board function without a regular influx of clueless normies
>>65327951AYO WE HEARD YOU LIKE DRONES SO WE PUT DRONES IN YO DRONE SO YOU CAN DRONE WHILE YOU DRONE>sir please, this is a classified procurement meeting
damn if Ukraine is so corrupt i guess we will have to triple the aid to make sure enough is actually used for TZD
>>65328985Zelensky is currently in the process if resolving that conflictBy the time this is over russian backed separatists in Ukraine will be a thing if the past
>>65329114>sitting on an ocean of oil>can't exploit itTurning Russia into a Giga Venezuela would be so funny.
>>65328997We saw that happen with UAVs, so the development of specialised weapons for UGVs is probably only a matter of time>>65328999
>>65329021New drone assault started like an hour ago.
>>65329132Meant for >>65329095
>>65328578How long do you think we have before we reach the Gundam timeline? With giant robots blasting cities apart and space colonies being dropped on our heads wiping out entire landmasses.
>>65328527>literally coolest thing>this is lame
>>65329019So you're saying niggers and spics should be scrapped for parts to recoup the losses.
>>65326932>>65326944Would Ukraine adopt the same display though?
>>65329095Salavat Oil Refineryhttps://xcancel.com/Grimm_Intel/status/2076863604934983977
>>65329114That y-axis range is the real warcrime
>>65329542another drone strike has been successfully intercepted by an oil refinery
>>65329517Gepards already looks like this
>>65328256Because Russians see history through the lense of 19th century geopolitics where nations must subjugate one another and everything Russia once owned is forever rightful Russian clay. They do not see their neighbouring countries as other nations, but as extensions of Russia beyond the Russian borders. That's why they feel personally offended when one of those nations dares joining NATO or the EU. Notice how the guy says the Balts try to "distort history": Russian clay not being in the Russian sphere of influence is fundamentally wrong, in his mind, it's like fish living on land, or wolves eating grass, or Russians being sober.
>>65328947>I accept your resignation. I winIf you have to tell someone you won, then you didn't.As if there's even anything to win when shitposting.
>>65327951its only a matter of time before we see a USV deploy a UGV so it can in turn deploy some UAV's
>>65327348Bullet storm, but with those 20mm air bursting grenades they used in the OICW program
>>65327058I'd be happy with it
>>65329964>Ukrainians are extremely cheap, the men don't have jobs, they're tax burdens so killing them off saves money in the long runIt's all projection with you ziggers.
>>65327489>This is equivalent to SOF doing a raid to destroy a specific enemy installation, you could also use it to drop sensors of your own, seems more like a proof of concept, I'd bring a UGV that can deploy FPV drones.They could achieved the same outcome by having the drone firing from the boat it was offloaded from. This looks more like some kind of publicity stunt than a real raid. Was anything of this even real? The radar, completely exposed, in an area that is within ukie FPV range. What??? Then its destroyed, not by a drone boat with a machine gun, but by a ground drone with a machine gun which is offloaded a couple of hundred meters away from the radar by a drone boat. The ground drone then proceeds to destroy the radar, which is right next to the shore line, completely visible, and easily attacked from sea or land. Its like .... what? Why? Why all this circus?
>>65327662>Could these be used to cross the Dniepro River and create bridgeheads for infantry without risking loses?No they cant for several reasons. The ukies already had a bridgehead at Kherson, it had to be abandoned because it became a killzone.
>>65329988It's very obviously a publicity stunt. I guess they want to garner attention for investors.
>>65328256Because seeing that "people" can decide to live as actual people and thus become them, is alien to russia and is a dangerous example.
>>65328997
>>65326932>UGVs will prove to be wunderwaffenUGVs will soon be everywhere. Half of infantry work is going to be setting up UGV and the other half is responding where UGVs fall short.
>>65327017>(Always Do The War Math Equation). You can afford to lose clankersNon-americans are incapable of this arithmetic. They're still valuing human life as less than artillery shells, even when the rifle carried by an infantryman costs more than an artillery shell.
>>65327284>Logistics>This one is pretty straightforward. You can bring food, water, and ammo out to forward positions that would be hazardous to reachUAVs and UGVs have both been used to great success for logistics in ukraine. They've been used for medical evacuation too. Midwits on the internet really have no idea how much war has changed.
>>65329859>soon we will see a UUV deploy a USV deploy a UGV deploy a UAV deploy a UAVWe already saw a USV carrying UAV motherships.It is as unremarkable as a nuclear submarine deploying a midget sub that carries navy seals who have a UAV. Of course.
>>65327072>future military doctrine is going to be Supreme CommanderCue the Simpsons speech about war fought by robots on top of tall mountains.
ground drones and fpv drones working together to destroy a russian position, we kind of already had this tech with the SWAT robots i guess, wonder why the military didnt adopt it
>>65331937
>>65329875you mean metal storm?
>>65331937>2 FPV for one soldierWhat a joke. The UGV didn't even do any meaningful job in this enggagement.
>>65327284>A UGV is always more expendableNot for the Russians.
>>65331937in grim darkness of far east there is only warMoving remote controlled machine gun is nice idea, maybe add to that some kind of granade.For assaults it looks like fpv drones are much better without worry about platform being destroyed
