im in Virginia
>bunch of demosharts just banned everything
and uhh that's it. That's what we get for living next to Demofags

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>30rd mags
>paperwork free suppressors
Damn France’s laws are better than Canadian ones. The only advantage we have is we can take our rifles out innawoods and they are unregistered

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>>65327116
>I'll start with mine, France
I moved couple years ago and all I could find as a new range was my local civil-servant job related airguns-only range. Every other "normal" range is overcrowded and won't accept new members, plus I lack available time to find another one. Well, good enough so I can keep my loicence and my guns so good enough overall... Until my authorizations expire. Which is in 6 months. Last week gov says it's time to launch the procedure again, and it must be done before september 1st. Fine with me, nothing in the law says I can't renew my guns authorizations because my range is air-only. It will be ok, you can shoot airguns, 44 mag or 338 Lapua, the loicence is the same, there won't be any problem, rule of law is cristal clear.
>Let's do it then
"Well no can do sir. Yeah, the law is on your side here. But we, the local authorities, won't allow you to keep your guns because you did not officialy fired your restricted guns in a regular "normal restricted guns" range, which is non-mandatory from a legal standpoint btw, plus you were diligent enough in your air range. But the answer is still no. Because fuck you.
>WTF ?
Couldn't you tell this to me before, like last 2 years when you took my money so I can merely use a air range which finally "doesn't count" just because you said so ?!
>yeah but fuck you
"We don't care. Just go fire in any regular range and give us the proof you did so."
>wtf
>Which fucking range ? They are all full membered and won't allow anyone else normally, plus it's middle july and the season will end in a month. Nobody will let me become a member and shoot before september/october, if I can even find a spot somewhere. What the fuck Im I supposed to do ?
>lmao
"Just go fuck yourself and don't forget to pay us a new loicence next year even if we refused to give you the ausweiss to renew your guns."
>France.

>>65327116
Michigan has a hodge podge of good and bad laws

The good:
>no magazine restrictions
>no caliber restrictions
>no assault weapons ban
>no waiting period
>NFA items allowed
>Stand your ground laws

The bad:
>Concealed carry license required to carry, and it costs 215 dollars to get one
>Concealed carry license or temporary license to purchase required to purchase a handgun (the ltp is the stupidest shit ever, you’re paying the police 10 bucks to run an NICS check on you, and if it gets approved you still have to do the NICS check at the point of purchase)
>Concealed carry license or temporary license to purchase required for any private sale
>red flag laws

>>65327167
>ltp
Yeah that stuff is a real pain in the ass. Same here in Poland. I'll say what our laws are but they're trying to mess them up right as we speak since they accidentally made it real easy to get guns by European standards.
>join a sports, collector's or hunting association
>1-3 months for the first two, year for last one
>get medical papers
>file police paperwork and you can get anything short of full auto on sport's and collector's, second might let you have full auto if you get special permission
>hunting is long guns that aren't full auto, 5 round mag limits on both rifled and unrifled
>hunters can have silencers and use them at specific times or on the range, special permissions license for the other two
>aforementioned license to purchase

But now they're trying to make it mandatory to do the medical papers every 5 years and generally just do a whole bunch of stupid crap. Only reason guns are now becoming common place here is because they didn't even know what they were signing into law.

Sucks for French bro but around here ranges are ghost towns and you can basically just get written in and then most days have the range pretty much to yourself. Blessing and a curse because if criminals ever figure it out it's easy for them to rob guns from people since you'll meet like maybe two dudes.

>>65327137
That got a statewide injunction that goes into effect on the 21st, stop being a black pilled pussy bitch crying about being a victim and actually annoy your representative. I bet you won't even send an e-mail because, "it'll change nothing" you're the reason they think they can get away with it.

>>65327116
Czech republic

You need gun license and every firearm must be registered. Getting the gun license is ez and took me 2 weeks in total, its just criminal history check, medical check (same as for drivers license) and gunlaws test and manipulation test.

Minimal legal age to own guns is 15, minimal legal age ro carry for self defense is 21 (concealed carry is practically permitless)

All guns are legal (except full autos those are may issue) you have to state reason to own guns no proof required and especially with self defense authorities are prohibited to question the validity of "self defense" reason, thats allways valid no matter what.

Self defense with use of firearm is a constitutional human right.

It is legal to own high capacity magazines for self defense

>>65327166
Get a very Jewish lawyer, duh.

>>65327190
That's the biggest difference to here. Our's is still a cucked "may issue" and in practice isn't issued unless you got connections. Self defense and national defense are both constitutionally defined but despite multiple wars starting they're trying to limit the laws even further because cattle will as cattle do.

I'm really envious that you guys managed to not get completely fucked by boomers on that front.

>>65327206

I can legally buy browning m2 (converted to semiauto) with 2000 rnd belt and mountid onto a tripod into the hallway and as long as its "for self defense officer" they cant tell you shit

"Why do you have 4 pistols and a vz58 all loaded up with you?" "Well ofcourse its for self defense"

Recently it was legalised to own full autos for self defense however full autos are still may issue unfortunatelly.

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>>65327116
So they control picrel?
Every free, freedom-loving frog should own one.

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>>65327197
Yeah i've tought about it. It means going after the head of my local federation, who is a happy few member of the national federation board. Which is, basically, a state sponsored mafia. Attacking them will blacklist me forever from even owning even a .22 6 shots 100 yo revolver.

>live in NY
>ignore gun laws
EZ

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>>65327116

Jew York State here.
>Background checks for all firearm purchases (including private sales)
>Pistol permit required for handgun ownership, not just CCW. Will take nearly a year to process and cost you ~$400 for fingerprints, photos, application fees, "safety course" where I never even touched a weapon, oh, and you need to have 3(? Can't remember) people you've known 5+ years who also CCW to sign off on your app...
>"SAFE Act" 7 round magazine limit that can't and hasn't been enforced, so 10rd mag limit
>Firearms can have 1 "military feature;" anything else is an illegal "assault weapon"
>"Military features" are
>-pistol grip
>-collapsible stock
>-ability to accept detachable magazines
>-Threaded muzzle for suppressors/muzzle devices (brakes/comps/flash hiders)
>-Le Bayonet Lug

Picrel is a neutered AR...either have to have to gay stock or bullet button/pin the mag to the well and load via take down...

Picrel

>>65327166
It's true that most shooting range are a pain in the ass here, mostly because of boomers. 90% of shooting ranges are just them shooting .22 from bench rest position with fucking 12X optics at 50 meters. I had a funny experience once :
>new to the local range, come in for the first time after registering
>take my AK out of the case
>guy next to me (a boomer of course) stares at me like I just pulled out an RPG or something
>comes up to me and says "you can't shoot that here, it's forbidden"
>nothing in the range rules say so, simply reply "no it's not"
>he insists and tells me full auto guns are banned for civilians
>explain him that it's not full auto
>clearly he doesn't believe me, asks to inspect my gun to make sure it's not full auto
>absolutely not, I don't know you and you clearly don't know anything about guns
>asks to see my paperwork
>are you a cop ? No then kindly fuck off and let me shoot in peace then
>boomer goes to RSO
>RSO tells him the same thing as me
>gets mad and leaves

There are good ranges though, mine allows basically everything except .338 and 12,7mm. It can get crowded on weekends but I have free time during the week, there's usually not much people.

>>65327232
^Pretty much this^

I'm already a felon and the government says I can't protect myself period, so what's another broken law??

>>65327206
That the biggest difference of czech laws to the rest of europe, self defense is sacred thing thta can not be touched. There are no club mbershi requirements (unless you are less than 18) and no limits on how many guns one can own, nobody cares of its military gun or not, it is allways legal for whatever reason and especially if its for self defense, the law literally says that "self defense" is a valid reason to own guns even if its untrue.

>>65327235
I always found it funny that many Europeans believe in stereotypes about US gun laws and think you can just go to Wallmart and come out with an AR15 while many US states have retarded laws like these and are way more restrictive than most EU countries

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>>65327189
>emails stop demoshits from banning guns

>>65327246
Oh yeah. Don't get me wrong, there are fun stores all over in NY, and you can walk in and walk out with a *neutered* AR with a quick background check.

But that's not nation-wide. I lived in Missouri for a while and that place was great. Walk into any gun store, background check, walk out with hand gun without permit...

>>65327224
Sorry to hear that anon, my solution would be to make a list and burn it (((in Minecraft))) but I understand you're in a tight spot

>>65327232
Based, all commies must hang

>>65327250
Virginia was, until July 1st, excellent because background checks were stuck down in court so we had parking lot gun sales again, like the good old days. July 1st happened though and fucked that, so we only had like a year of decent freedums. That's what voting Democrat gets you.

>>65327247
You're pathetic trash

>>65327247
Even if you think they don’t do much it takes literally 5 minutes to write one

>>65327262
See
>>65327189
Are you spreading misinformation on purpose or just so eager to be oppressed that you brag about it to anyone that will listen?

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PA
>no minimum age to own any long guns
>18yo to buy and open carry long guns
>21yo to buy and obtain permit to CC handguns
>background checks for commercial long guns and commercial and private handgun sales, no background checks for private long gun sales
>no gun registrations but they keep a papertrail of handgun sales and transfers
>no permits or licenses to buy or own, just permit for hunting plus stamps for certain game
>no mag cap bans (except for shotguns when hunting, I'll get into it below)
>suppressors legal but need to go through the ATF song and dance
>can open carry without permit everywhere except Philly
>can CC but need permit
>shall issue state
>handguns need to be unloaded in car unless you have CC permit
>rifles have to be unloaded in car no matter what with mags/ammo in seperate compartment from rifle(so trugg guns are limited)
>hunting laws are a bit arbitrary
>hunting big game & turkey with semi-autos not allowed
>hunting with full-auto not allowed gpes without saying
>hunting with semi-auto handguns not allowed
>hunting with semi-auto shotguns allowed
>hunting small game with shotguns requires shotgun be restricted to 2+1 capacity
>hunting large game with shotguns require slugs only
>castle doctrine
>stand your ground laws (with proportional response)
the state was on the verge of constitutional carry but the faggot governor vetoed it
all in all as far as northeast states go it could be far worse

>>65327263
ooAAooOh im Emailing HARDERRR

>>65327268
an injunction is a start but it's not a solution. I would very much like to see the SCOTUS hurry the fuck up and definitively conclude that ARs and similar arms are 100% protected under the 2nd Amendment. They obviously are, and I know Demobraps do not care about the Constitution when it comes to guns or baby's lives and whatever but SCOTUS would make their dogshit laws a lot harder to enforce.

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>>65327267
Exactly...it does so little because it takes so little effort. You think your "representatives" read that shit? Lmao

>>65327167
All of the bad laws are from the past 3 years btw. I’m very worried about our state’s future. Because of all the retarded niggers in Detroit, arabs in the outlying suburbs, and jeets in Troy, the demoshits have a very strong voting block

>>65327281
I guess I should also mention
>no guns banned but the ones on the NFA
>no waiting periods
>no red flag laws

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>>65327281
>>65327289
oh and if you get 3 DUIs in 5 years you're banned from owning guns
big government once again oppressing the poor drunk driver

>>65327281
>national gun tax is reason that you need tax stamps for stuff
>the tax is de facto abolished because it's now free
>somehow still legal to tax things despite there not being any actual tax
It's almost like the EU stuff
>no actual legal basis for EU to make gun laws in member states
>still enforces gun laws with fines

>>65327116
Arizona, the good:
>concealed carry without a license
>open carry
>can hunt with a silencer
>short list of crimes you can shoot people for includes arson of an occupied structure
>structure includes vehicles

the retarded:
>cannot shoot a charging shitbull unless it actually scratches or bites you

US law, Arizona copied almost verbatim:
>cannot bring a gun to school unless it is unloaded, out of sight, and in a vehicle that is locked when not attended by an adult
I'm a revolverfag and this law is the only thing that makes me want a magazine pistol I could load quickly.

>>65327302
because naturally they still want paperwork on you
and funnily enough I'd rather it'd be the other way around
I've come to accept that the government wants its cut of just about everything
it's really only the fact my name is going in their database that actually bothered me

>>65327311
>cannot shoot a charging shitbull unless it actually scratches or bites you

I've never understood why the government believes we have to suffer in order the prevent further suffering.

The whole point of self-defense is to prevent bodily harm.

NYS
>Retreat first state
>Legally obligated to try to run away/barricade yourself in your home and call duh poleez
>Cannot use potentially deadly force unless it's used on you
>Elderly Vietnam vet went to prison for shooting an urban chimp coming at him with a raised crowbar...

If that's not potentially deadly, lawd I dunno what is

>>65327324
>Cannot use potentially deadly force unless it's used on you
i hate these sorts of things with a passion. Whoever makes these laws should have their head smashed

>>65327321
Yep, it's always about control. Police are apparently resisting the government access to police gun owner databases, at least that's what I've heard. I'm really hoping they don't cuck the laws too bad and maybe make the judiciary stop fucking around with interpretation of the law.
>gun gets stolen from some guy's car while he's taking a piss after a day at the range
>loses license because improper security
>gun gets stolen because they found the key to it hidden somewhere near the gun safe
>doesn't lose license because laws don't explicitly state where the key has to be kept

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>>65327182

It should also be noted that

>Sport license allows you to CC which makes us one of the several countries on Earth where there is a practical way for a regular civilian to do it
>guns designed before 1885 that don't use fully self contained cartridge can be sold to anyone 18+ and owned by everyone, technically even by kids lol
>it includes percussion revolvers and lots of people keep them for home defense
>carrying them is also not prohibited
>pepper sprays, knives, telescopic batons, stun guns and tasers are also legal for everyone to own and carry

Correct me if I messed something up, the last time I checked the laws was a while ago

>>65327330

Lawmakers gonna make laws...I just hate how sheeple juries go along with it..they KNOW it's stupid and if they were ever in the same situation they would defend themselves, but you put those idiots in the box and they just go full "hurrr, bud idz duh lawwww."

>>65327357
>guns designed before 1885 that don't use fully self contained cartridge can be sold to anyone 18+ and owned by everyone, technically even by kids lol

I owned several 12ga shotguns and a .22 pistol at 12 years old in New York. Cool story.

>>65327357
I remember some case where a dude pulled a gun in a club at 10PM and they decided it isn't allowed but I keep hearing that you actually can EDCC so not sure. I'll look it up, I've been thinking about BP revolvers so I can dick around at the range with a pistol.

>>65327357
Do a barrel roll

Finland: shit, kiked to death. Don't believe any fag who comes in to claim this dystopian shithole has good laws.

>>65327335
>doesn't lose license because laws don't explicitly state where the key has to be kept
i feel like this would do nothing to keep you from going to prison if your psycho teenage son found your key to your safe and used it to kill someone. Subhuman prosecuters would be coming for your head as always. There's seriously barely anything you could do to keep a smart kid from accessing your guns.

>>65327457
I mean legally you don't actually have to keep the gun safe in your home so it would be a PITA to do something like rent a bunker the kid can't break into or some other ridiculous scenario so I'll settle for
>practically impossible

>>65327415
All I know about Finnish gun laws is that you need to stick your hunting permit on your gun itself and it looks really ugly

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Netherlands, probably getting some shit wrong. About owning guns
>must join a shooting club
>they're all indoors and suck dick
>must shoot >=18 times and be a member for a year
>you can then own a single non semi-automatic small caliber weapon that would be persmissible at the olympic games
>but only if the cops and the club like you
>a year after that you can own up to 5 single shot rifles and pistols up to 9mm
>a year after that you can own a number of high caliber semi-automatic rifles
>police can visit your home at any time and try to do this at least once a year
>if you don't renew your license for whatever reason and later want to own guns again, go back to start
>guns can be taken if you're charged with something
>even before guilt is established
Now if you're a mentally ill retard intent on shooting up your neighbor for making too much noise and had the police called on you 300 times, all this goes without a hitch. If you are a law abiding citizen that sticks to the rules, they will absolutely fuck with you.

>>65327513
lol that fucking sucks ass

>>65327513
btw did i mentioned that in czechia police is explicitely banned from visiting your home unless you own fully automatic weapons? but im so sorry for your loss

>>65327116
Argentina

Gun Permit is now easy to get.
Unlimited guns, limited ammo at home(1000 rounds per caliber, except for shotgun shells, 22lr and 32acp (2500 rounds cap))
All kind of ,semi auto, guns allowed, with no magazine max cap, only exception are guns in fn 5.7mm, they are banned.
Military style magazine feed semi auto rifles require a special permit (be a gun club member and a gun safe).
Suppressors are regulated and allowed now.
Reloading allowed, you can only have one kg of smokeless gunpowder at all times.

You can walk in any gunstore and buy any gun you like and take it home in the moment now, no waiting period. (except for aforementioned military rifles). I bought a 1911 and took it to the range the same day.

Life good, also PCC in .45 and 9mm are allowed without the special permit. (we call it "decree")

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>>65327545
>>65327550
>tfw not a Czech chad
I'll spare you the details of getting permision to shoot rats with an air rifle.

>>65327556
and thats funny, in czech republic i can legally carry whatever gun i want and if some crackhead pulls out a knife at me i have constitutional right to shoot them and it doesnt matter if the attacker dies or not there is a good chance it wont even get to court, however if i shot a rat or god forbid shoot it with an airrifle, then its animal cruelty and i can go to prison for that

>>65327116
NH
No rules basically

Not great, but mostly better than before. Used to be you could only own 4 long guns on a hunting license in Sweden, and then up to 6 if you justified it to the cops.

Now you can own 10, and you don't need to present any special justification. Also, it used to be difficult to own any automatic which wasn't a fudder sporter on a hunting license, but that's also a lot more lax now, so if you want to, you can actually use stuff like an M1 Garand or M14, which you couldn't before.
From a practical point of view, there's more suitable weapons to go shoot moose with, but you could have them just to have now, basically.

>>65327479
I don't think that's ever been mandatory but old people liked doing it for some reason, so you have those gay stickers on every used rifle

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/k/raut here
Here's how to become hasguns in Germ0ney:

hunter
>pay 2-4k eurobux
>take at least 120h of lessons (either couple of hours every weekend for half a year or 2-3 weeks all day everyday) about everything (laws, animals, hunting customs, animal diseases, shooting lessons)
>pass three exams (oral, written and practical) which can be pretty hard depending on your previous experiences
>paperwörk and waiting
And now you've got a hunting license, which is the most hassle free way to buy guns and ammo in Germany. Unlimited long guns (now full auto), suppressors and associated ammo await you. Though you're limited to two handguns. Dont forget to renew the license (~70€ a year).

sport shooter
>find a club that belongs to a sports association that shoots the disciplines you're interested in.
>apply for membership
>shoot for ~1 year with the clubs guns before you can apply for your gun license
>two kinds of gun license: yellow is manual action firearms; green is for handguns and semi-auto
>with yellow you can buy 2 guns every half year, but don't have to prove the "need" everytime; just show license, receive gun
>with green you have to apply for each prospective acquisition by type of weapon and caliber in advance, proving your "need" for it
>need to shoot 18 times a year or once every month to keep your guns
I'm sure I forgot or got something wrong dear Schützenbrüder so please don't crucify me.

btw you can buy pic related on a hunting license

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>>65327762
collectors
>Ancient tomes speak of dark rituals in tongues long since forgotten. Abhorrent sacrifices to malevolent gods from the unfathomable abyss.
On a serious note:
>already be hasguns (not sure you need to)
>choose a (narrow) field in which you wish to collect guns (ex. german sidearms from 1914-1945 including captured weapons)
>have state approved weapon expert (the guys who sometimes testify in court) write you a certificate that your chosen topic has indeed got historic significance
>apply for license and start collecting
There are fewer and fewer collectors around every year and I'll admit I don't know the whole process. So take what I wrote with a grain of salt.
Collector is also the only way to get full autos here (legally). If your collection is judged to have significant historical value you can apply for an exemption form the BKA (federal police). Be prepared for ridiculous demands by your local authorities (parts stored in separate safes, alarm systems, notify authorities when you take it to a range that lets you shoot it (kek god luck finding one)).

ALSO: Prerequisite for any type of gun ownership here is a clean criminal record, a gun safe and near masochistic love for paperwörk and a slow inefficient bureaucracy.
As a gun owner you can be subject to unannounced visits by your counties gun registration agency. It differs wildly by county and by the people at the agency. I've been visited once in the 13 years since I became hasguns.

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>>65327572
>i have constitutional right to shoot them
does this actually happen?

>>65327762
"now full auto"

did you mean semi auto? Full auto is a machine gun, you cant own those.

>>65327363
the judge and prosecution do everything in their power to make sure the jury doesn't know jury nullification is a thing and it's illegal to talk about it in the court room so the defence just has to hope one of the jurors knows about it
and even then if the case is 100% caught red handed on video tier open-and-shut the judge has a bad faith clause to veto jury nullification

>>65327799
I meant to write "no full auto".

>>65327793
I'm assuming the Czechs have some gypsies, muslims, and druggies around here and there. I vaguely recall mention of a story a bunch of years ago where some Czech shot and killed someone with a carry gun, and it was ruled justifiable.

>>65327793

last year a guy shot 2 unarmed attackers that tried to rob him by the ATM, after the shooting he informed the police (as the law requires you to) and handed his firearm he used to the police for investigation, he didnt go to court, he wasnt charged with anything and after 2 months the firearm was returned to him official verdict of the police investigation "we found no evidence of this being unlawful self defense"

on duty municipal police officer was attacekd by a person with a broom and he shot the attacker and basically the same story (if on duty cop shoots someone it is usually treated as a self defense)

this year armed man shot aggresive dog, owner of the dog was sentenced to community service for not having the dog leashed

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>>65327254
Yeah, and that's saying something. I just checked the rules : if I can't provide proper documentation before 1st september, I'm supposed to forfeit all my beloved guns and ammo to the police (~15k€, and I'll never see them again), and get the whole legal "first timer" circus again like 7 years ago, starting with airguns courses, then .22, then all the papers, exams, and so on, it's a 2 years process. Godamnit. And I'm not even faulty here fuck everything.
>so what
I might have a solution. A coworker of mine asked his private range headmaster to let me shoot a single time couple days from now and - hope so - sign my paper so I can have a proof I did shot a real gun under surveillance last 12 months. If I can manage that and don't shit myself, I'll have to give the paper to my airgun range headmaster, so he can (if he's not in fucking vacations), give it to the local federation, so I they can give it to the national federation (alongside other papers I need to provide), so I can maybe keep the guns I PAID FOR AND LEGALLY OWN godamnit I hate everything.

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>>65327838
Sounds rather reasonable. Wish we had rights to actually defend ourselves like that in Sweden, but no, nothing matters more to the police and courts than the perpetrators themselves, they must NEVER EVER come to harm, and they will often try to fuck you for using anything but very mild violence.

I hate communists, tye-die witches, greens, and socdems so much it's unreal. I miss having nice and clean nuclear power and not being fucked in the ass on power bills so much.

>>65327820
if you havent done anything illegal such as shooting someone that has surrendered to you or tried running away, or if you havent informed police as soon as possible and if there was at least a tiny little possibility of the attack potentionally being lethal the case very likely wont even get to court. Its valid self defense unless proven otherwise.

however we dont have castle doctrine, if someone breaks into your house you cant shoot them just because they have broken in, they have to attack you or atleast they have to be "about to" attack you

>>65327856
>AND LEGALLY OWN
Yeah well now I read myself again, gun "ownership" is quite a big word in Yurup, obviously...

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>>65327866
There's sport shooters and hunters around Europe, and collectors, though it varies from country to country.
More hunters than anywhere else in the Nordic countries, we fucking LOVE shooting and eating elk and deer around this part, so we have shitloads and shitloads of rifles for that.
(Oddly, we don't seem to shoot and eat as much duck though, because it's much less commonly available in stores here, and is expensive when you find it, even though we have ducks and they're delicious).

Switzerland is the gold standard for actual collecting here in Europe, and with a collector license there, the sky is just about the limit. If you have your license, if you can afford it, and you can store it, you can buy and have the gun, including SMGs, HMGs, even little autocannons and stuff.
Swiss collectors are probably the most important preservers of historically significant and rare weapons on the continent, and they can actually go and shoot the things too.
Pic related belongs to an Anon here who's in Switzerland, and it only scratches the surface of what he's got.

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>>65327897
This is his toggle-locked, automatic cannon.

>>65327838
here we gave community service to two guys for smuggling a 17 year old, making CP with her and pimping her out

they didn't have guns of course, that would have been terrible

>>65327928
I could flip a coin on if that was Sweden or Britain. :(

>>65327928
yeah we also do these things, but if you are the 17 year old you can legally arm yourself at that age and altho you cant legally carry firearms yet at that age "officer the gun was unloaded, i loaded the gun just before i shot the attacker in the self defense"

or you can just have stun guns or pepper spray or telescopic batton or a knife those are completly unrestricted, in fact cold weapons or bladed weapons or nonleathal weapons arent recognized by the law to even exist, in fact there is no specific object defined as "weapon" not even firearm is a "weapon". "weapon" in czech law is this abstract thing, its any object that is at a specific point in time being used to make assault more effective. anything used as a weapon is a weapon and anything unused as a weapon isnt a weapon

>>65327962
>>65327962
this is making too much sense, I don't believe you

>>65327968
and do you know what is a czech definition of a long firearm? it is a firearm that isnt short

thats what i call common sense

>>65327235
I have a cuck lower to put multiple uppers on and just fly undercover with my no-no antisemetic hardware.
>>65327238
If they kicked in my door I'd have hundreds of felonies for the 100+ 30rd mags I own.
No NFA items though. I'll tell Hocoul to go fuck herself with a rusty rake but I don't want the ATF to shoot my dogs.

I'm from Ohio, what the fuck is a "gun permit"?

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>>65327415
Unfortunately, this is true. The laws for the most part cater to hunters since the majority of gun owners here are boomer fudds with durr rifles and shotguns. Obtaining a permit on a sport shooting basis is a total pain in the ass, particularly for handguns.
Also, semi-autos with a capacity of over 20 rounds (short) or 10 rounds (long) are considered "particularly dangerous" and you'll have to suck dick to obtain those.

>>65328061
It's not even that the laws are bad, they are, but the shit cherry on top is that the cops can and will pull even stricter rulings out of their collective ass

>>65328095
That too.
>Says here in your records that you were depressed ten years ago and I also don't like your face, so fuck off
>The firearm you're seeking to obtain is too scary-looking and thus "not fit for purpose"

Hungary

hunter
>pass hunting course
>pass psych eval
>pass med eval
>pass gun safety course
>buy safe
>go to precinct to inform them of your intent and the kind of gun you want to buy
>wait
>wait
>get permit to buy

can now buy bolt actions and pump actions with a limited tube
Orbán let us buy suppressors as long as we have a matching caliber firearm that is registered in your booklet as having a threaded barrel

aside from that, not much changed in the past 20 years
using thermal / light amplifying weapon sights isn't a crime now
it is now legal to keep the gun outside while you're at home (didn't used to be the case, lol)
mandatory maintenance checks were abolished
police aren't bugging your family while you're away to make them show your guns so they can arrest you
home defense / shall issue licensing never ever

sports shooter
>all the above
>1+ year membership in a shooting club you may apply for a license with endorsement from the club
>annual medical exam
>each competition category requires a different licence
>have to compete in 3 (iirc) "ranked" matches per annum or your license is forfeit

can own semi autos and handguns, all EU limitations apply

>>65328138
>sports shooter
>>all the above
Wait, what? So even if you just want to shoot smallbore pistol or trap or something similarly non-lethal you still have to pass the hunting course?

>>65328138
>all EU limitations apply
You know, trade is nice and all, but Germany and Brussels need to fuck off for all of eternity, I'm sure that Europe would be better off by killing the EU and replacing it with strictly a set of trade agreements.

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>>65327116
Laws?

>>65328123
This was the end goal of the psych evaluations Dems wanted to push on Americans who wanted to buy a gun. State bureaucrats letting antifa have firearms but if you sound chuddy or don't trust the feds during Obama/Biden's tenure you're paranoid and can't have a firearm. Thankfully it failed, but we came so close to this faggotry.

>>65328138
lol hungary be all anti EU until it comes to gun legislation

>>65328123
>Says here in your records that you were depressed ten years ago and I also don't like your face, so fuck off
I have experience with this exact thing and getting a loicense was a fucking pain. Took me more than a year of trying to find a shrink who didn't consider me a lunatic simply for wanting to get into guns. I finally found one by complete accident who was into big game hunting and wrote me a paper clearing me of all suspicion of being a school shooter terrorist
Cor bless my dude

>>65327666
>if you justified it to the cops.
Well, you, umm see, there are ethics laws which means I need a large and small calibre for different size game. And also a shotgun. And also big and small calibre rifles for group hunts which require 1-3x magnification optics unlike the rifle scopes I'll have for my solo hunt rifles. Oh and a 6th slot on the license for borrowing weapons from friends (it counts against your limits) so I can shoot them and see if I like it, put it down in writing as "purpose of experience" or however that translates.
>actually get the limit of 6
Kek.

>>65328286
i wonder if the countries that have these justification bs actually use the guns for the reasons declared

>>65327955
Swedish 17-yo smuggled into Britain

>>65328313
I guess? For hunting it makes perfect sense because it's cheaper to buy multiple weapons and scopes rather than expensive infrequently found scopes or scope + red dot. Borrowing weapons? Cheaper than buying to try something new or some type of setup you haven't used.

For sports?
>Yeah I need it for x y z competitions
>Legally required to go to said competitions

Collector's? Well you'd have a collection and the laws around those laws are a pain in the ass in terms of range use etc.

Self defense/defense of others - what it says on the tin.

Then you get into non-firearms firearms licenses like "sonic" guns in use by sports referees, self-defense weapons that have an effective range of a metre, a firearms usage license (instructor at shooting range/school etc.) and possibly some other bureaucratic nonsense that would be better served by just having a SINGLE FUCKING LICENSE TYPE.

>>65327167
Similar to Minnesota.

The good:
>no mag limits
>no caliber restrictions
>no AWB
>no waiting period
>NFA allowed
>ghost guns allowed

The bad:
>no stand your ground (castle doctrine applies, though)
>need a license to concealed carry, which requires paying for and taking a course first
>need a license to buy a handgun or semi-auto rifle
>red flag laws

In this case the restrictions are because of liberals in the Twin Cities area. The only reason they aren't worse is that the legislature is split 50/50.

>>65328372
How much of a pain is the license to purchase? I want to know how badly I need to brace my ass.
>t. Coloradan

>>65327584
Can you explain how a state as blue as NH never got typical blue state gun control laws? Is there a big hunting culture or something?

>Gun laws in your country
>amerilard "well in my state"
FUCK OFF

>>65328402
The USA is a country and the EU is globohomogenising laws across members so it's effectively the inverse and they're all the same in different countries. What's your problem?

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>>65328402
Europe is one country at this point. I refuse to talk to you as a Germ, Czech, Nord, etc. Also hurry up with building your Euroid army.
>>65327116
>Ohio
Pretty gud except for when the Republican flavored Jeet gets in and imports even more H1Bs. Only bad laws are related to hunting, apparently you can only use straight walled cartridges or something I don't know, I just poke holes in paper.

>>65328383
Not that bad if you just want to purchase (and not carry--the carry license is separate here):
>go to county sheriff's office
>fill out a form
>wait 30 days or so
>license arrives in the mail
But you have to renew the permit once a year if you want to buy new guns.

>>65328402
Well yeah, the United States doesn’t handle its gun laws on the federal level. How else are we supposed to discuss our laws? I bet you’re a noguns Belgian

>>65328402
Our states are as large and culturally distinct as your countries.

>>65328466
>Our states are as large
often true
>and culturally distinct
oh come on you don't actually believe that

>>65328477
Name 5 things that Alaska and New York have in common besides speaking English and being part of the United States

>>65328477
>oh come on you don't actually believe that
Yeah, I'm exaggerating a bit. But you'd be surprised. If you talk to a hick from rural Alabama and a yuppie from Seattle, you'd think they were from different worlds.

>>65327166
So if you lose the license, do you have to sell them and get the license back then rebuy the guns?
And do you wake from this nightmare?

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>>65328402
Burgerland is 50 countries spotwelded together under one Federal Government, each state has a capital, state government, and their own laws. They ain't all gonna be hoodnogs and white trailer trash.
Some are similar to each other, but there can be some pretty substantial cultural, social, historical, legal, economical, and ecological differences between all the states. If you teleported from Alaska to Louisiana, those are gonna be two VERY different places with rather different peoples and circumstances, there's countries here in Europe which differ less from each other than those two do.

The U.S and E.U don't compare 1 to 1, obviously, but broadly you would need to look at the American states like how you look at European nations differing from each other here.

>>65328319
lmfao, landed on its edge I guess. Were they Pakis or Somalis?

>>65328441
You're a special kind of brown retard, huh?

>>65328487
If you talk to a rural Spaniard or, and may god forgive me for uttering this word, a Belgian you'd think they're from different countries.

>>65328497
I hope the Francoids have something similar to here were you're still allowed to own but not keep the guns and they go to a police lockup. It's expensive but if you have rare pieces and a chance of getting them back/selling then you don't get raped on government appraisal of your collection.

>>65328510
>Were they Pakis or Somalis?
I don't know I made it the fuck up.

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>>65327897
Canadian here, I mad jelly I'd never get get to ever see any of these :(

>>65327197
Your Jew, now he's good for a few things. A lawyer/accountant/HR guy, a deli sandwich, and intricate wood. Personally I have to have blacks cook my bbq, play bass, run asphault, and their churches are way more high effort.
Italians will do your clothes, Arabafricans are good for dress shoes, and you got your greeks for ties and hankies.
Asiatics is mostly food and stereos.
The Lord's tribes all have their jobs anon.

>>65328519
In the US say someone dies with pistols in a permit state and nobody has one, you can remand them to a lawyer who charges to keep it in a safe.
Then you have time to get it on someone's permit or sell it. If the lawyer doesn't care it could stay with it for a long time as typically they live 1200 years.

>>65328519
>If you talk to a rural Spaniard or, and may god forgive me for uttering this word, a Belgian you'd think they're from different countries.

..yes? What are you trying to argue here

>>65328540
Belgo-Spanic Reality Tunnel, it's new from CERN.

>>65328487
but that kind of difference exists even in individual countries. Go to southern italy, speak to some guy from a random town there. Then go north, and talk to some guy walking down the street in milan.
You can find differences like that in any large-enough country, especially if you try to focus on the differences between rural areas and big cities. No country is a cultural monolith. But the 2 previously mentioned spaghetti eaters will (culturally speaking) still share more with each other than either of them do with a swede, or a brit.

>>65328548
>No country is a cultural monolith
San Marino
Vatican City
Pretty much every pacific island
Monaco
Andorra
Liechtenstein

>>65328548
Fair point, but I would bet you that a yuppie from Seattle and a yuppie from Vancouver, Canada have more in common than a yuppie from Seattle and an Alabama hick. I appreciate that you are making reasonable arguments on this website.

>>65328477
You really know nothing at all about America or their people if you think they're basically just all the same across all 50.

I don't even know where to begin with that, so much of how each region of America was built up by European settlers is colored by which other countries besides England that those settlers came from to begin with, like how you'll find a lot of German and Czech heritage in Texas, much French heritage in Louisiana (because it was a French colony), plenty of Italian and Irish in New York state, endless Spanish in California (because it used to belong to Mexico), and a lot of Greek in Ohio.
That's just for the Europeans as well, the Chinese and Japanese had a lot of later history in California, Louisiana is black as fuck (and not just African, but Caribbean and Jamaican), and then you're counting in the natives, not just the mainland natives, but then the Hawaiian natives, who are completely different and completely removed and distinct from them.

All of this has blended together and intermingled some over the centuries, but not to the point of a sheer indistinguishable mush across the board, because regions are still pretty distinct from each other, and you can see that in just the food alone. Most of that blending and transforming has been primarily regional. Which is actually a lot like how Europe itself has been.

I don't wanna be all "muh melting pot," because I think liberals exaggerate the fuck out of that, but they usually hate whites so they are very wont to completely disregard the actual diversity between the various kinds of whites who primarily built Clapistan.

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>>65328497
See here >>65327856 TLDR I sell everything for cheapos in few months span or lose everything to the police and can go fuck myself hard. It's that bad.
>>65328519
>I hope the Francoids have something similar
Nope. The only way to do it could be to make your stuff registered under the name of some really really trusty buddy, if he has available slots in his name, and hope for him not to screw you and give everything back once your legal fuckery is done, because the moment your guns are registered on his own state account, they belong to him and you have no way to claim them.
>in sum
Im a fucking law-abiding cuck who's fucked in the ass by some nefarious office faggot who somehow decided my loicence, which is the same as anyone else in the country, worth shit because the only range I could find lately deals only with airguns (as if I was happy with it). Fucking hellhole of a cuntry.

>buckshot banned (except for collecting LMFAO)
>semiauto rifles and shotguns easily accessible through the excuse of hunting, 10 round magcap for regular use
>.22 handguns also easy to get
>actual handguns take more effort and you are limited to 4 except for collecting
>CCW technically achievable but unlikely to get in practice
>two different types of ccw which allow for the acquisition and carry of different handguns, B-class for judges, politicians and pigs (actual non-dogshit handguns) and B1 for burghers (anemic dogshit like .25 acp, most potent chambering on this list is .32 H&R Magnum)
>suppressors available, technically suppressors which provide sound reduction above 50db are prohibited but this is a non-issue so far
>''SBR's''(firearm with an overall length that falls under 60cm when the stock is collapsed/folded, barrel length doesn't matter and thus an SP5 is fine but an SP5K is not), 'handguns which are semiautomatic versions of automatic weapons' and large-capacity magazines may be acquired for the purposes of sport shooting but how this works in practice is anyone's guess
>machine guns and other category A weapons may be acquired for collecting purposes but how common this is and how much time, effort and money it takes to get to this point is unclear
>draconian limits concerning ammunition, tl;dr can't possess more than 500 pistol cartridges, 1000 rifle cartridges and 5000 shotgun shells at once
>expanding handgun ammunition only allowed for CCW/collector's permits
>extendable batons are class A weapons for some reason

I suffer in Portugal.

UK
Our gun laws are complex
Need a certificate to possess firearms. There are basically two certificates; shotgun and firearms.
Shotgun
Must have a smooth barrel 24” or longer and max magazine capacity of 2 cartridges, or it’s a firearm. No limit to the number of shotguns that can be owned, but each needs to be listed on the certificate and police notified of acquisition or disposal. Need a certificate to buy shotgun ammunition, no limit on quantity, police do not need to be notified and it’s not recorded. Ammunition does not need to be secured. Solid shot is classified as firearm. Need to demonstrate a reason to own, be considered a suitable person and have two referees. People without a certificate can shoot on suitable premises under supervision. Shotguns need to be secured (usually a cabinet) when not in use.

Firearm
Every firearm needs to be listed on a certificate, along with the quantity of ammunition to own and purchase. All ammunition purchases need to be listed on the certificate. Calibre of each weapon needs to be approved as suitable for the stated purpose, and land or range where it is to be used must be designated as suitable for that calibre. Pistols are only permitted under very strict conditions. Self-loading rifles are not allowed except in .22LR. Permission to acquire a new weapon must be approved in advance by a variation on the certificate. Firearms need to be secured (usually in a cabinet) and ammunition and the bolt (if easily removable) in a separate cabinet or facility. Firearms certificate similar requirement to shotgun except justification to own each weapon and the amount of ammunition needs to be agreed. A non-firearms certificate holder cannot handle weapons except under strict supervision conditions. Air rifles of more than 12 ft-lbs are firearms. Sound moderators currently considered as a separate firearm, but this requirement is going to be rescinded in the very near future.

There’s probably loads of detail I’ve missed. As I said - complex

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Chile

Oh boy, where do I start

First: Any firearm whatsoever requires licensing and a permit. To obtain the license to own and the permit to purchase, you must first pass a course on the handling of weapons (extremely granular for some reason: pistol, revolver, rifle (rimfire), rifle (centerfire), carbine (lever action [treated as a different category to centerfire for some reason]) and first aid, background check, a psych exam, then an written exam in the gun control office. You also need to certify your income, have the police visit your house to check your address, and have "appropriate security measures" in place (very arbitrary; for 1-2 guns, a locked closet should suffice, but depending on your city, you might be asked to have a safe. For 2+ guns, usually, a safe in a locked room is enough, but you might be asked to have bars in your windows and an alarm system even. Then, if you actually want to use your firearms, you need to either sign in for a club (whole other can of beans) or have a hunting license. The whole ordeal can take months if you live in Santiago or larger cities, a month at best. You need to renew all of the paperwork every 5 years and every 2 years for the transport permits. You need to retake the course to renew your licenses, even if you have already been shooting for years. You could be an Olympic gold medalist in skeet, but you'd still need to do the course.

Overall, there are 3 usual valid registrations for a firearm: Defense, small game hunting, large game hunting, and sport. You have a limit of 8 guns total, 2 for defense and 6 for hunting or sport, unless you're a "qualified sportsman" then you can have more.

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Sweden
Basics: Gun ownership isn't considered a right. Each gun requires an individual license. A license is only issued if the applicant is considered to have a legitimate need for the gun in question.
With a few exceptions, firearms are to be kept locked in a safe when they're not in use. In extreme circumstances, firearms may be legally used as self-defense tools, but only in life-or-death scenarios when there are no other options.
Even in such situations, gun owners are expected to fire warning shots, shoot to wound, etc, before shooting to kill.

Common "valid reasons" to own firearms include:
>Hunting:
It's very easy to get qualified as a hunter with a valid reason to own firearms. Hunters can have up to 10 long-guns of various types without needing to specify exactly why they need each specific gun.
Hunting rifles must have barrels at least 18" long, 20" for shotguns.
Semi-auto rifles that take "military-style high capacity mags" are a no-go (excluding .22s and PPC). Shotguns are limited to 2+1 capacity and can't have detachable mags.
.22 pistols may be had by trappers.
>Shooting sports:
Anything goes. ARs, AKs, short barreled rifles/shotguns, 100-round drums, belt-feds, full-autos, handguns, etc.
An individual has to join a recognized shooting club that's active in one or more particular shooting sports.
If they've shown themselves to be trustworthy and dedicated to the sport, the club will vouch for them when they apply for a license to get one or more appropriate gun(s) to practice their sport of choice.
>collecting:
In theory collectors can get a license for pretty much anything, that's not the case in practice. It's subject to arbitrary labyrinthine bureaucracy that I don't understand.
>protection:
Guns owned/carried for specifically self defense.
Technically allowed but rare. Unless you're in witness protection, or you're personal friends/family with the local police chief, you can't get this kind of license.

Still 7/10 by Euro standards.

>>65328646
Defense allows you to purchase handguns (pistol or revolver) and shotguns (if in a rural area, non-semiautomatic). It is relatively the "easiest" way to have a firearm but the most restrictive. To take it out for practice or to the gunsmith, you need to arrange a permit with the gun control office, from your house, to the gunsmith/shooting range, and back. You can only buy 200 rounds a year and can only take it for practice 2 times a year.

Hunting: Shotguns (manual action only), manual action rifles and carbines, revolvers. It is a bit more involved because you need a hunting license. You can get a permit (an additional, separate step) to "Transport" your weapon in a case, to and from the hunting field to your registered address. Try not to detour too much, because you could get wacked if found with your gun out of the way. You get to buy 3000 rounds a year per registered weapon, and store only 1000.

Sport: Handguns, shotguns (manual action and semi-auto), rifles (all calibers, semi-auto only in .22LR). You need to be part of a club, and the club you are a member needs to have the facilities for the gun you want to purchase. IE if you are only a member in an indoor club, you're not going to be allowed to buy a .308 rifle. You need to get an additional permit to transport your guns to the range and competitions. 3000 rounds a year per registered weapon, and store only 1000.

Collection: You can register guns as collection pieces but you can't buy ammo for them. Unsure if you can register guns as collection pieces and then take them to a range that sells ammo and shoot them there. You only have a small allotment of like 10 undeactivated collection firearms, and a larger amount (100?) of deactivated firearms.

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>>65328621
>All ammunition purchases need to be listed on the certificate.
How does this even work? Say I go to the range once a week and buy a box of ammo every time before I go. Imagine I do that for 2 years. Do I have to list all 104 purchases in some database or literally on the physical certificate itself?

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>>65328651
The "qualified sportman" clause: If you have a gun owner for more than 5 years, you're an active competitor and your club provides an affidavit you can register more guns (unsure the amount) and get to have a reloading setup. Impossible otherwise.

Police CAN and WILL come to your house in an extremely intrusive matter every once in a while to check your guns, and WILL try to gaslit you into surrendering them (they even come with prepared statement forms you just have to sign to give them up). If you have less than 2 you can meet them at the door, if you have more they WILL come in and inspect your safe.

Carrying concealed is illegal (technically is shall-issue; the problem is they don't issue it to anyone but ex-military/police members). Letting your kids shoot is illegal unless they are registered as hunters/sport shooters. Suppressors are illegal. Buying ammo requires you to go to the gun control office and get the ammo stamped. You need to register scopes and red dot sights to the gun. You can't use a hunting weapon for sport, or a sport weapon for hunting. There are some centerfire semiautos in circulation, but they are extremely expensive: $40k for a Garand, $100k for an AK, stuff like that.

Now my opinion:
Why bother then? I mean you can still enjoy them at a normal way. Drive to the range, shoot, come back. Go to competitions. Have a gun in my nightstand if some robber enters my house. It's just a pain in the ass.

Self-defense law inside your property isn't that bad. If you have everything in rule you can hunt as well. And after all, this is LATAM. If you get caught hunting with a properly registered sport-registered gun, nothing is going to happen. You can talk the cops out. Same with being caught carrying, the self-defense clause still sticks and you get a slap in the wrist for carrying illegally. Nobody checks if you really have 1000 rounds max at home. At the end, it's the typical 3rd world poorly enforced shit.

>>65328666
>You need to register scopes and red dot sights to the gun
Jesus fucking Christ. Sorry Chile anon, I had no idea this law existed anywhere in the world.

>>65328680
Yes it's stupid as fuck since scopes and red-dots are still free-for-sale since they are the same thing you'd use in an airgun or airsoft.

For telescopic scopes, more than 16x requires permit-to-purchase and being in a club and stuff like that, even if you're mounting it in an airgun.
For red-dots, it's entirely arbitrary. A cheapo Chinese sight is free for sale, but an Aimpoint or Eotech with firearm specific mounting requires purchase permit.

>>65328694
What's the "official" reason for why you'd have to register a red dot? You can't kill somebody with a red dot and it doesn't make the gun more dangerous. Do you just have cucked politicians down there or is there some logic to this I'm not seeing?

>>65328699
There's none. They just wanna clamp down in ownership and make it as much as a pain in the ass as possible and get people to not bother and give up their guns. There's already a huge amount of 22lr bolt-actions floating around that nobody wants because they switched to high-power air rifles that just shoot a little less hard but need no paperwork.

This was pushed during the previous leftoid govt which was very much aligned with Agenda 2030 and was butt-buddy with Trudeau, he announced a "total ban of civilian firearm ownership" to one-up his Assault Weapons/handgun ban. It didn't work because even 'sane' left-wing politicians recognized it would be insane so they just introduced shitty restrictions like these and the round limit.

>>65327281
Until next year when we get a democrat trifecta and they enact NY tier laws.
Buy what you can while you still can.

>>65327289
Uhm askeully, SBSs and machineguns are "banned" but being in compliance with the NFA is a defense to prosecution, so they aren't really banned.
Prohibited offensive weapons is a stupid law and should be repealed.

>>65328402
>hey guys discuss gun laws in your country
>NO NO NOT LIKE THAT

>>65328477
>meanwhile Bri'ish are constantly trying to tell me of the very big and super significant cultural differences between Yorchestercrier residents and Wingblottoms residents (they're all either muslims or freckled red heads)

>>65328665
There’s a space on the certificate. Every time you go to the gun dealer to buy a box he checks if you are authorised then records the purchase on the certificate. When I was shooting .22LR I asked to buy 500 and hold 600, so when I got down to less than 100 I’d go buy another 500 from the RFD

>>65327554
How about carry?

>>65328694
NTA, but I knew that bullshit law you had, in Argentina here they wanted to pass a similar law.

How much is a Glock gen3 in Chile?

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>>65328872
Always be wary of People From Birmingham.

>>65328933
Used? Like $500 to 700. New Gen 5 are about $1100

>>65328965
At least prices are not that bad, a brand new gen 5 in here is around 1300, but used Glocks tend to keep their value.

Kast needs to get his shit together and flex gun laws, I don't understand why some governments ban reloading ammo.

>>65327116
USA
>shall not be infringed*

*terms and conditions may apply

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>>65327281
Grew up in PA but live in Idaho now, insane how many people here think it's just another libtard state cause of philly. Had a some coworker gen x fag not believe me when I told him that minus the LTC and some hunting laws that it's a pretty decent gun rights state
western red states don't know how good they have it

Australia reporting in
>no weapons for self defense
>gotta have a "good reason" to have one
>"good reasons" include and are mostly limited to sport shooting and protecting livestock on a rural property
>gotta store guns and ammo in separate rooms in separate safes
>being licensed to own a gun means the cops can search your property without a warrant and without notice, failure to comply can lead to your arrest
>ever been depressed? if your GP wrote that word in his notes, you can never touch a gun for as long as you live
>criminal record? you stole a lollipo and were charged for it? never allowed a gun again.

There's also this weird catch-22 i havent figured out yet where you CAN fire a gun at a shooting range, but you cant freely go to the range without being a member and you cant be a member without getting a firearms license... which you cant get unless you are a part of a shooting club or a member of a gun range. You need the license to be a member and you need to be a member to get the license... it all seems designed to make it impossible to get a gun.

Meanwhile if you want a hot piece you can always find a bikie gang member and give him $800 or so for something in the 9mm variety.

The problem with Eurabia isn't the model restrictions, it's that self defense is de facto illegal.

>>65329034
It truly is. You know that European countries with sizeable Muslim populations are fucked beyond salvation when even a shithole like Brazil has better self-defense laws than they do. There is a direct correlation between allowing in massive numbers of muslim immigrants/refugees and the native population losing their individual rights.

>>65329030
>There's also this weird catch-22 i havent figured out yet where you CAN fire a gun at a shooting range, but you cant freely go to the range without being a member and you cant be a member without getting a firearms license
you think that's bad? I heard mexicans can own a single handgun but they can't take it to the range to shoot it and practice.

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>>65329034
It's both. I feel I'd probably do pretty fine with something like a CZ75 Compact, but I still want a real Uzi and real Colt 733 because it'd be cool and fun.

>>65328163
>I'm sure that Europe would be better off by killing the EU and replacing it with strictly a set of trade agreements.
EU used to just be a set of trade agreements (EEC) but I guess unelected bureaucrats need mission creep (total federalization of the European nations) to justify their jobs.

>>65327189
>you're the reason they think they can get away with it

No the imported D.C. workers that overwhelmed NOVA/Loudon County/etc did. They have a statewide registered voter advantage and the state democratic chair is basically the DNC. It's donor priority one to gun grab. They did the gun grabbing bills before almost anything else. Especially the "progressive" aka free shit for browns/illegals they ran on. Those letters don't matter.

>>65329030
>Meanwhile if you want a hot piece you can always find a bikie gang member and give him $800 or so for something in the 9mm variety.
As fucking usual these laws mostly just stop normal tax-paying people who've never done anything wrong in their life, while crooks all have as many burners as they'd like.

>>65329034
It's worse than just the law being bad, on a societal level people don't think they should defend themselves and even lobbying for armed self-defence instantly paints you as a lunatic who should be disarmed
The sheeple living here are just fucked in the head

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>>65329017
Good for you for coming home to what is perhaps the finest /k/ state in the union. Make the trek to the Loon Lake bomber crash site on July 25, and you can meet some charmingly autistic friends.

Indiana: Expect to wait 10-20 minutes while they make sure you're not a violent felon. Then you're allowed to buy anything and carry it around concealed with no permit.
Just don't bring it to the State Fair or the Casino

>>65329628
I read that as India at first

>>65329630
i'd never admit that sir

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>>65329628
What happens at the state fair?

>>65329633
you eat one of these then ride a tilt a whirl and chork

>>65327190
i just love our CZ laws about guns. pew pew. nothing to crazy, just few simple rules and test. all it takes at the end is not being a coplet idiot about it

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>>65329634
>>65329633
site messed up not me

>>65328896
>>65328665
(cont)
I gave this some more thought and the .22LR clubs I used to belong to had ammunition stocks that you could buy at the range. If you bought it at the range, shot it at the range and didn't take any out then it didn't need to be on your certificate as it wasn't technically in your possession. So many shooters would turn up, buy a box, shoot a few squads and then, if they had any left, label up the box and put it in the club ammunition safe. If you wanted to remove any from the range, even a single round, then technically the range warden would have to enter it on your certificate.

The club used to bulk buy ammunition and record every box sold against the member. They also had a record of who turned up and how many targets they shot, so they could account for all of the ammunition.

Obviously these were secure indoor ranges that also had safes for club guns; I doubt if full-bore clubs and outdoor ranges could have similar arrangements.

>>65327116
>What are the gun laws in your country /k/ ?
despite all the (legitimate) hate
Germany is actually fine in practice

>be member of shooting club for >1y and shoot there regularly
>do an easy test
>need a safe at home
>can buy nearly any gun up to .50bmg with some bureaucracy

there are some other stupid hurdles
like max. 2 weapons every 6 months (which you can get around, by you guessed it, more bureaucracy)
changeable (there are some funny hacks around this) magazines max 10 (long guns) or 20 (short guns)
or that police can come at any time to your home and check proper storage in the safe

at least they did allow suppressors a few years ago

overall
once you're set, and know the person in the city handling the permits (they are my shooting club KEK)
it's actually all right and minimal effort

if you want fun ammunition or carry in public for self defense your out of luck though
and don't even think of using it for home defense
shooting here is almost never "proportional force"

>>65329636
but what is important is that cops are on our side, remember when government was doing the ammo justification bs after the shooting, thanks to cops refusing to enforce it, this rule was abolished

>>65329034
meanwhile CZ

>>65329795
overlords tried to score some media points after that shit show. i bet they were shitting bricks when they recieved slap in the face

>>65329803
desu, god bless our gun lobby, there is no reason to be naive, politicians would love to purge our gun laws if it wasnt for players like CZUB, CSG and maybe even zelený sport and theoretically hermex could be there too

>>65327513
Correct as far as I can see, but some additions:

>Guns and munition need to be stored in separate safe or separately lockable compartments
>Safe needs to be anchored to wall or floor, or weigh in excess of 200KG
>Self-defence is out of the question, naming it as a reason for gun ownership is instant refusal of license. Self-defence with a firearm would only be considered justified if attacker shoots (with a firearm) at you first

The most retarded thing is that they're currently considering modifying the law so that storing legally owned guns at home will be severely restricted or completely forbidden. Then every single gun would have to be stored at the club, making these clubs, which are run by volunteers and generally have very limited resources, ultra mega lootboxes for criminals who want to steal firearms.

>>65329835
Glad to hear that it's not just UK politicians who are largely divorced from reality where firearms are concerned

>>65329816
>politicians would love to purge our gun laws

yeah...go figure. damn rats

>>65329857
But like ive said, luckilly much like in USA we have so many arms companies that it would be very unwise to do any restrictions.

>>65329835
That's a dyel law, 200kg ain't bad for a couple big lads

>>65327137
Rahimi and recent appeal court opinions have done a great job on neutering Bruen. The new test is now "has gun control ever historically existed, including restricting knives, then gun control is okay"

Magazines were arms a few months ago, now they're not arms and therefore can be banned. I really wish there was an active system to punish judges for bad rulings. There should be a Y/N block on every appeal court opinion to punish the lower court judge.

>>65329835
at that point fuck all that bullshit and just get them illegally, it would be easier to find people who know people than to follow all this BS and if you ever use it for self defense you can claim "i took it off of the attacker"

>>65329835
This idea is so retarded yet it always resurfaces in different places

>>65329979
Western european politicians almost never have a clue about anything firearm related and think that further restrictions on legal firearm ownership will somehow have a non-negligible effect on firearm related crime. Western European NPC voters concurrently also know next to nothing about firearms and will view ownership of them as 'bad' because they read a news article with misinterpreted and/or misleading statistics.

Meanwhile the rates of illegal gun ownership and stabbings (even among minors) are steadily increasing, not expecting any effective measures being taken against this.

>>65327166
>register in a range with a bunch of friends
>place is crowded with boomers, we play along the first month, buying 22lr
>boomers are OK once you drink with them at the range bar (yeah you read right and the booze is one of the cheapest in town)
>begin to buy militaria (k98, Carl Gustav, steyr m95...) to cope from thé lack of category B
>calibers above 22lr are restricted to a 25m range
>25m is stuffed with deflectors meant for 9mm
>volley fire 7.92
>we can no more shoot militaria rifles there

>>65330080
>boomers are OK once you drink with them at the range bar (yeah you read right and the booze is one of the cheapest in town)
Anon, in my range they put a big sign saying "Drinking and shooting is forbidden" for a reason, lol, I'm not shocked at all.
>>65328897
Carry is very restrictive, but If you are the business owner you can get it, I know a guy with a permit to carry a full size colt python

>>65328512
Your concession is accepted, Salim

>>65327116
Massachusetts
>Pros:
No waiting period. LTC/license to own is good for 6 years (they were recently trying to cut it down to only 3 but relented) and shall-issue as of 2022. Ammo can be shipped to you door (from the right retailer and proof of LTC). MG license isn't entirely impossible to get and SBRs are still allowed
>Cons:
Holy fuck we're in contention for the worst AWB in the country. Handgun roster is slightly less raped than CA's. New req's to get LTC are way too burdensome. Mag cap laws. Sensitive place bullshit. Duty to retreat (outside of one's home). Nobody knows dick about the law from the gun stores to the police to the politicians so you just have to clench your butt and hope you never run on the wrong side of the law. With any luck Viramontes will ease some pain this coming SCOTUS term, but I can at least say with my full chest that even here is better than the rest of the world.

>>65328163
you'll hear no arguments from me
this entire concept of the EU making laws for citizens of the member states is baffling to me

>>65328161
correction
all the above except the hunting course

>>65327167
>Illinois
>NY
>Maryland
>Washington
>Oregon
>Minnesota
Michigan is so unusually unfucked by its “one designated shithole city”

>>65327232
This really is funny. It’s not hard to get on the good side of the notmafia upstate. Lotta those gangsters never got caught and live wealthy, peaceful lives and so do their descendants. Tons of noncompliance up there. Lots of illegals too, if I believed in selling my guns I’d have sold them some

>>65327246
European’s new liberal brown-loving, outgroup-preferring retardation comes from America. Well, at least Americas example. You’re copying the worst parts of us, yuros.

>>65328177
Is this not severely outdated? NV and AZ USED to be like #1 and #2 in the nation I remember

>>65330037
>Western european politicians almost never have a clue about anything firearm related and think that further restrictions on legal firearm ownership will somehow have a non-negligible effect on firearm related crime.
No they don’t. Their disarmament is malicious and has only spread to more and more countries since the 1930’s

>>65327666
Any Svenskbög know if handgun laws have changed any for the better, given long gun laws have?

>>65327116
>What are the gun laws in your country /k/ ?

BRAZIL. Just facing SILENCE DISARMAMENT right now.

The """""""RULES""""""""":

- 25 years mininum.
- Fixed address.
- A job AND "income compatibility" with each gun.
- Zero criminal record AND zero civil process of any kind (if your ex made a false accusation of anything, you lost).
- Validation online docs renew after 3 years, for each gun, and pay to do dumb exams (logic, habits, 5 shots etc) . If you loose job, fixed address etc during validation period, lost gun.

The GUNS:

- Shitty Taurus? = 3 minimum wages. A (imported) Glock? = 7. A decent rifle? = 10, 20, 30...
- Carry impossible (only politicians and friends of the current dictator).
- Home defense (house/bussiness/farm) almost impossible and had caliber restrictions (max. 380 ACP/38 SPL). Training, because of carry, is impossible. Only 50 bullets a year.
- CAC (collector, hunter, sportsman) can access higher calibers and ammo, but need to spend a fuckton of $ joining clubs and paying taxes and more tests to "increase" level. If you want to train, need biometrics to create "temporary carry ticket" to the range every fucking time. If you use CAC guns for defense, lost gun + arrest.

The "extras":

- Executive is a commie.
- Congress and senate bought by commies.
- Supreme court full of commies.
- All police forces (local, civil, militar and federal) are 100% anti-guns. If you are totally legal, they will arrest you because... they dont like ordinary people armed, simple as.

I'm just tired of this freakish hell on Earth. Fucking disgraced country full. Just nuke it.

>>65327222
ngl I was thinking about making one, it'd be pretty edgy to have with an american flag