There's a growing possibility the US (and much less likely Israel) could launch a limited ground op into Iran. Objective: decapitate IRGC leadership, seize hostages for leverage, and destroy key drone and missile factories. This might be coordinated with Sunni Baloch rebels, Taliban factions on the Iran-Afghan border (they want that river), Kurdish groups, and remnants of the anti-Ayatollah protest movement. None of these factions are huge, but with enough support they could achieve Israel's ultimate goal: a broken, infighting Iran, even if the Strait stays closed for months.So the question. What weapons and transport systems make this viable?Start with the obvious nightmare: small drones. Ukraine showed us. FPV kamikazes hunting squads, quadcopters dropping grenades into hatches. How does a several thousand strong expeditionary force survive that? Vehicle mounted jammers? Handheld Dronebusters? Directed energy Strykers? Israel's Drone Dome? Does every convoy need a rolling C-UAS umbrella, or are backpack electronic warfare kits finally standard issue?Then insertion. Moving thousands in and out undetected. V-22 Ospreys flying nap of the earth? Amphibious landing at a seized southern port? Submarine launched SOF teams securing airfields ahead of C-17s?And the ground allies. What do they get armed with beyond air support? Javelins and AT-4s for Iranian armor? Switchblade 300s so Kurdish fighters erase IRGC commanders from a mile away? Stinger MANPADS if Iran's aging helicopter fleet shows up? Secure comms like Starlink packs and encrypted radios to coordinate a multi front uprising?What weapon is make or break? What is overrated? Where does it fall apart?
Would require a massive build up of men and material in-theater which we just aren't seeing.
>>65330393We aren't talking about an Iraq style invasion. Its a limited operations of less than 10k US soldiers going in simultaneously to take out or capture top IRGC or govt officials ( or family memebers for leverage), eliminate drone/missile facilities and possibly just cause maximum distruption for a limited time while the various rebels make their moves. Some units might also be deployed to take some key positions for the rebels so that they can entrench and be more of a pain in the ass for the Iranians. If the primary objective is the Israeli one of turning Iran into a infighting state it could be an option.What i am interested in is what weapons could the US supply to this rebel factions as a force multiplier and what systems could the US forces use to deal with small drones today.
>>65330436>they are just going to bag/shoot HVTs, blow up stuff, and help rebelsAnon, most of the senior guys worth targeting have already been blown up and replaced, most of the good military targets have been blown from the air, and most of the potential rebels were machine gunned by the regime months before this kicked off. There's nothing left to do besides hunt down every fucker who could potentially launch a flying lawnmower off the back of their pickup, and then go stand on every street corner making it difficult for anyone to assumble new flying lawnmowers, and there's nobody left whose willing to do that dirty work for the US.
>>65330386None of these groups will die for israel. This includes the Kurds, as they have been thrown under the bus countless times.
>>65330436>Dump a ton of high end military equipment on various rag tag ME rebel groups engaged in a civil war, including the TalibanOh yeah that's a novel idea that's never been tried before, I'm sure nothing bad could ever come of that.
>>65330436>dis nigga thinks Iran is gonna fold like Venezuela What kind of wishful thinking is this? Iran has been preparing for the final showdown with the Great Sheytan since the 70s, and have learned from Saddam's, Qadafi's, and former Ayatollah's mistakes. Mainly, those being you think you can negotiate in good faith with Israel and thier vassal state. What will be the cope be 10+ years after the Ayatollahs or some other theocracy is put back in place after the American instituted provisional government falls after the US withdrawal? On top of that, hasn't Iran been completely and utterly annihilated for the 30th time this calender year?
Ah, perfect. The coalition of seething muslims have shown up to derail the thread by talking about jews instead of letting people on /k/ discuss weapons and tactics in a hypothetical scenario, like the board's purpose. I love 4chan.com/pol/!
>>65330460>All you have to do is be our meat shields one more time! We promise to recognize you as a state this time guys! I can't believe they keep falling for it.
>>65330499Calling out Jews should be the main thing we should all strive for
>>65330460>countless timestake a wild guess who did it the last one time too
>>65330386Get the Jews to keep assassinating IRGC personnel until the more moderate factions can control them.
>>65330499>hey guys, calling out a war Israel has been trying to incite since the 80s is heckin antisemitic and le /pol/Kys shylock. Nobody except dementia/lead brained evangelical boomers are buying into your propaganda.
>>65330499>>65330554The Jew is immunized against all dangers. One may call him a profiteer, manipulator, scoundrel, parasite, swindler, it all runs of him like water off a raincoat. But call him a jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out."
>>65330482It worked if you look from an Israeli perspective, which to me seems the obvious way to explain every decision. What where the sworn enemies of Israel?Saddam, Gheddafhi, Assad and now the ayatholla. Even if nation building failed and the countries are a source of problems like refugees in the west for Israel it was an amazing success. If those countries became friendly to the west and successful they could always become a danger for Israel again. Since they are all so broken, with militias infighting and financially ruined they are not posing any sort of danger to Israel for the forseeable future. I don't think Israel ever wanted a rich Iraq aligned with the west as it would always be a coup away from being a threat. The only Muslim neighbors they can tolerate to have wealth and stability are those so militarily weak that would never really be able to go toe to toe with Israel anyway. Now only Iran ( possibly Turkey later ) and minor groups are left to be broken in order to ensure Israeli hegemony in the region. When you look from this perspective and ignore what could be the benefits or issues for the west its all becomes clear. So arming whatever minor faction in Iran even if they will keep fighting for decades and maybe to some terrorism ever so often in Europe is irrelevant as long as it keeps Iran broken long enough for it to never be a real danger to Israel for decades.
Lets keep the tread K please.What weapons could the US supply to the rebel and separatists to deal with IRGC besides air support and what systems can moderately large US SOF units (100 to 1000 strong) deployed temporarily trying to take hostages for leverage or similar missions could use to deal with stopping drones today ( real system available not marketing CGI)
>>65330386>decapitate IRGC leadershipalready done>seize hostages for leveragebad optics. and the affected leaders could be replaced anyway>destroy key drone and missile factoriesdonein my judgment you'd need a large scale ground invasion. which no one wants, so it won't happen
>>65331100>bad opticsafter blowing up a school full of little girls and starting a war on request of a guy wanted for genocide I am not sure what optics is there to lose. Even if he kidnapped the daughter of every IRGC general and molested them, after the Epstein stuff, I don't think it would make much of a optics difference.
>>65331100Yeah i could swear i already saw like 10 shitter/Truth-posts stating this exact thing.
>>65330994Your knowledge of history is severely lacking, holy fuck
>>65330994>What where the sworn enemies of Israel?ESL detected, opinion discarded>The only Muslim neighbors they can tolerate to have wealth and stability are those so militarily weakEgypt and Jordan are both neighbors and former enemies that now coordinate with Israel to shoot down Iranian drones while maintaining respectable military capabilities. Read a book or three, retard.
>>65330386get a few thousand alquaedas or whatever those guys are called to be the frontline cannon fodder for your army and then advance with tanks only after the enemy has been evil attritedisrael should have a sizablee mizrahi population they can also throw into the grinder if they lack kurds this time
