Say you're minding your business, and you find yourself being stopped and harassed by an agent for a three letter government entity. How do you interact with them?>inb4 shooting themWhile that is the logical and moral answer, I'd like to make it home to goon to Hitomi Takanaka while listening to Masayoshi Takanaka.
I would escalate until I get shot dead
>>65331815I act politely and thank them for their valuable work of ridding America of un-desirables
>>65331815I'm white, therefore I would comply. Unless they were In The Wrong whereupon I would fight them, win, and be vindicated in a Court of Law.
>>65331815i'd talk to them like i do the county sheriff. "hello, what can i do to help officer?"
>>65331815Ask what fund I should move my TSP into.
>>65331815Go with him tofuck yamudda.
>>65331815>appetizercrash outdump the mag>main courserace homelight up whoever comes up my driveway>desserteat a 00 buck 12 gauge when the bobcat breaches
Im white. They dont stop me. I give them a thumbs up as i drive past.
>>65331815Generally attempt to deescallate the situation while maintaining my rights. If my rights are violated I do my best to preserve my life and document the violations so I can win the court case and achieve restitution.
>>65331815AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED?
>>65331815>Hitomi TakanakaHow old is she now? Is she still active or retired?
I call my contact at the Secret Service and have her sort it all out.
>>65331815Turn the engine off, tell them I don't answer questions without an attorney and I don't consent to any searches.
>>65331827Are Good and Pretty undesirable?
>>65331827
you re supposed to find the nearest cop and tell them that guy threatened to kill you or something along those lines and have them ice the three letter agent for you
>>65333311Extremely.
>>65331815I'm a citizen so I just show them my driver's license and leave. Sucks to suck if you're a brown illegal I guess.
>>65331815never interacted with feds but had cops called on me multiple times for being suspicious I had a job monitoring air quality for asbestos removal and I would spend a lot of time just chilling in my car in shitty neighborhoodscops always relax once they see I'm a white dude then I calmly explain what I'm doing there and they leave after we wish eachother a pleasant day
>>65333493No you hsve to be an obstinate asshole and escalate a suspicious persons call into a shooting
>>65333496that doesn't sound very productive
>>65331815I had a chat with ASIO while already being detained by the feds, their stratergy of leaving me alone for ages wass boring as shit and it was pretty funny when they unironically did a little good cop / bad cop but over all they just wanted to know if I was a terrorist and I'm not.
>>65333504If you don't escalate every police encounter into a use of force then you're a boot licker. Sorry, I don't make the rules.
>>65331815I would throw my tactical tranny flag at them to distract and blind them, then try to run them over then get shot in the head and scream "I CANT BREED" while dying and posting my last posts on reddit
>>65331815I start shooting [spoiler]with my cameras[/spoiler], try to verbally and legally escalate without getting killed and sue them.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist.Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.
>>65333524>wakes up and writes tranny and reddit fanficseek professional psychiatric care
>>65333555And this is supposed to be bad or something?
>>65333567The coming for me part is, yeah
>>65333555I only see socialists and jews quoting this.
>>65333572What if I don't like you?
>>65333575The guy who wrote it was awarded the Lenin Peace Prize by the Soviets. That should tell you all you need to know.
>>65333593And Adam Smith, the father of modern captialism said economic rent seeking was the greatest threat to capitalism.You can be wrong about some things and right about others.
>>65333607That's correct though.
>>65333612And he was wrong to think capitalism could exist without rent seeking, it goes all the way back to feudalism and has never been defeated by any economic system.
>>65333620You're clearly too low IQ to argue with
>>65333633Name any time and place in the last 1000 years rent seeking hasn't existed.The commies have come the closest at times but still couldn't get it done.
>>65331815Shit my pants and act retarded. What are you gonna do, arrest me for being retarded?
>>65333620>>65333639What's better: a system that generates a 100k per citizen with 15% rents or a system that generates 10k per citizen with 1.5% rents. Because that's really the difference you're describing.
>>65331815This is not legal advice, but as a lawfag here's what I do for myself. First, I'm respectful and calm, even if the officer isn't. The street is not a courtroom, if an officer is going to violate my rights, screaming or interfering with them is only going to make the situation worse for me. If I'm walking in public, hands are at my side, not in my pockets, I'm standing still and not shifting my weight. If I am in a car, my hands are above the steering wheel or on the dash, open with palms facing up. "Yes, sir; no, sir" even if the cop is power tripping.Second, I'm cognizant of the scope of my rights, including their limits. An officer can briefly detain me to conduct an investigation if they have reasonable grounds to do so. From court opinions this standard is incredibly easy to satisfy and officers are trained on the magic words to say to reach it. I ask if I'm free to go and comply with what the officer says. Also, I know cars have very limited privacy rights. They can stop me for any traffic violation, regardless of their real motivation. Officers can search the entire car if they can see anything inside that gives them probable cause to do so. Also pre-arrest, my right to silence is not self-executing. I need to affirmatively invoke it. I also know I never have to consent to a search under any circumstances, but physically interfering with one is a bad idea.Third, most officers are decent people, and unless I am the target of their investigation or give them reason to think I'm breaking the law, they are motivated to keep the interaction brief, safe and respectful. Although I am not obligated to, if I can answer questions or let them search something that will give them peace of mind there's nothing fishy afoot, I am personally inclined to do so. I don't think it's worth my time to assert my rights to a hilt at great personal inconvenience when waiving them is the better option.
>>65333694>median US income $51k>median US rent $18k>35%But economic rent seeking isn't limited to property rental, it's also why politicians care way more about the DOW than the cost of living.
>>65333750I was talking about economic rents, retard. Any system is going to have people skimming off the top. Capitalism is the only one that can deliver high incomes.
>>65333752If you like getting paid a big number while costs skyrocket you would have loved Zimbabwe, you could be paid billions per day.
>>65331815I try to attack their morale and psyche so that something I say will eventually have them putting a bullet in their head.
>>65333752you're rightwe should keep chasing big number and make line go upwhat's the worst that could happen?
>>65333760But that's very obviously not the case. Zimbabwe is vastly more socialist than any western country, certainly America. Why is it every time I debate communists they just fucking ignore the very obvious differences between real world capitalism and communism.
>>65333802Bro, don't you know a correction could hurt someone's retirement accounts? We need to pump those numbers up and increase the Social Security tax in order to make sure boomers are able to enjoy a life of luxury and continue to see thier home equity sky rocket!
>>65333807I'm not a commie and don't hate capitalism I just think classical liberalist economics worked way better than neoliberal economcis, both systems are capitalist.
>>65333820Then all you really hate is the modern administrative state that enables almost all the corporate rent seeking behavior.
>>65333829>administrative stateNo, under classical liberalism the state had more power than corporations and exercised it often with anti-monopoly laws and CEOs & boards going to prison for crimes.What I hate is the "small government" of neoliberalism that says the state should stay out of business and let the corpos have free rein.
Actually had this happen to me. This guy has the right approach >>65333741You should also remember Title 18 USC Section 1001, which pretty much says that any lie is an automatic felony. They will try to ask you a trick question that they know the answer to to trigger this if they have nothing else. Another thing: don't be surprised if it's the FBI. As a matter of fact, from what happened to me and what I've read it's far more common than the heckin doggerino shooterinos of the ATF since the FBI is usually the only federal law enforcement agency the average normie knows. 99% of all glownigger encounters come from an """anonymous tip""" from some sperger's IRL contacts. This means classmates, coworkers, "friends", neighbors, and other associates. They will run down everyone you know to get dirt on you, and after that, you will pretty much be a modern day leper since nobody wants to be entangled in your mess. The only option at that point is unironically to move, drown it out with liquor or your mind-altering substance of choice, and to never speak of it again to anyone except your lawyer.
>>65331837>step out of the car while we wait for a k9 unit to come sniff your car, then we'll lie and say we got a hit, and detain you while we destroy your car. We'll be sure to turn off our body cams while we're doing it, which of course will result in no consequences.
>>65333555I'm still here and glad I didn't speak for you.
>>65333842But that's not the case. The state has never been more involved in the economy. Why do you think there's so much lobbying and byzantine regulations? So the incumbents can raise barriers to entry and maintain their market share.
>>65333854>The state has never been more involved in the economyThis is highly arguable.
>>65333854>The state has never been more involved in the economyThey are giving more tax dollars to political donors than ever but everything runs through contractors now instead of the direct government employment of the new deal.With middle men you prop up stock prices keeping rent seekers happy, without middle men you spend less while paying the workers more drastically increasing velocity and driving demand to stimuate the economy.
>>65333859No it isn't. Unless you're talking about like the depression and WW2, maybe there's an argument for certain industries. But to me it sounds like you had the progressive-republican era in mind from the turn of the century.
>>65333849Good thing this doesn't happen to White people!>oh waithttps://youtu.be/3P36bPNMxIM
>>65331887
>>65333555At no point did any of those groups have any interest in speaking out for me lmao.Immigrants are scab labor btw
>>65333335Worked for the atf guy in columbus ohio (he got tazed and quit iirc)
>>65333894>and it IS a scienceIt should be but there is way too much political and ideological influence for it to function as a science in reality.
>>65333887You should read about Shane Huffman. The two arresting officers admit on bodycam (because one of the two pushed the wrong button on his bodycam and failed turn it off) that they want to arrest him so that they can seize his new truck for their police department. Of course the charges were dropped, but if the guy didn't have some internet clout behind him thanks to a fucking youtuber, he'd have lost his brand new 100k truck.
>>65333899This. That stupid fucking quote omits the truth that the former groups fucking hate me and want me to die, so that's why I'm not defending them.
>>65333957But defunding the SEC while refusing to prosecute the few they catch is.
>>65333873I was more thinking British East India Company but you do you
>>65333311Yes.
>>65333311Very much so. >>65331949This. It's weird how leftists only care about feds when they're doing their jobs and not being used as a private hatchet force for the Dems.
>>65334084No one cares if redditards get themselves killed
>>65333849You had drugs in your car and got popped for it, didn't you?
>>65334077We've been "going to war with China in the next 20 years" for the last 50 years at least. Worst case of blue balls ever.
>>65334084Only traitors help invaders.
>>65334101>cops are infallible, and incapable of being corrupt.
>>65334158>muh dems and pubsYou have been fooled by a fake war between people that agree on 95% of economic policy.
>>65334155>Maybe we start by deporting the millions of people here illegally squatting in our housing stock.Yes people making slave wages have always been able to buy loads of housing in the current $400k avg housing market.>Couple that with regulatory reform so people can actually develop property rather than spending seven years waiting on a permit. Reform to what, anarchism? I've seen how contractors bumblefuck every single job. They routinely violate those permit conditions and blind eyes get turned because the permit is the only thing making them do the bare minimum to protect their surroundings.>Finally, end student loans and promote trade schools so 18 year old leave high-school with marketable skills rather than promissory notes and leftist indoctrination.I'd rather see more student loan and scholarship options for trade schools, college isn't for everyone. Lots of kids simply aren't capable of abstract thinking. I'd also like to see more financial support and reform in medical job paths. Current residency protocol was written by a man who was coked out of his gourd and we could use more docs to relieve pressure on the medical system.
>>65334148>These goalposts have wheels on themJust don't be an illegal :)
>>65334164Oh its just the standard magat cletus, he really does make being american fucking embarassing
>>65334158I vote for this. Total Democrat Death.
>>65334193>illegalexcuse me, it's undocumented migrantjust like how robbery is actually undocumented sale and purchasejust like how rape is actually undocumented consent
>>65331815law enforcement literally can not harass you. they either have a legit reason to want to talk to you or they leave you alone because they have a job to do.
>>65334200You're not American. >>65334207Bingo, that's the lingo.
>>65331815I don't get stopped by cops, but when I do, I give them my card, commend them for doing a good job, and tell them that as treasurer of the local HOA may I thank them on behalf of the neighborhood, who are all grateful for their assistance in making sure we all sleep safe at night
Guys can we talk about guns?
>>65331815Don't act like a nigger or liberal woman and you will be fine.
>Election tourist thread Capitalism and Communism are both total failures and rely on the same cope of 'My perfect form has not been tried.'Also no one in this thread has a gun, or legitimate US passport (Can be refuted by posting the fully unredacted 3rd and 4th pages of it.)Most importantly. The Ukrainians took out 1/6th of the Russian shadow fleet in the Black Sea yesterday. Which also explains why these threads are popping up.
>>65334252Even after that institutional residential investors will remain a major political donors.>>65334258>I KNOW people who do this even in today's market, yesDo they think gold is going to crash?>You think investing carries zero risk, don't youI think index funds being down over a decade is extremely rare.>it means that at 90% CGT people will say "lol fuck you, goodbye"Good, do you think the S&P 500 is short on liquid and couldn't possible fund expansion without shareholders?
>>65333453>I'm a citizenThese here fancy Amazon-operated AI cameras say you're a known terrorist. Must be a fake ID.
>>65334290Good thing it's illegal for states to regulate AI, I would hate to see grandmothers roaming the streets.
>>65334295Please understand, if we don't privatize the surveillance state, China might nationalize thiers. Hope you don't mind all the new white noise from that data center in your back yard.
>>65334284>ive advocated for exterminating iran>somehow this makes me a leftistOh cletus, if only you understood how fucking stupid you are
>>65334312>Im one of the good ones though! My party loyalty is on the record! Lol, lmao
>>65334306>You didnt need that 1 billion goy!
>>65334306I did vol EMT in a red state for a bit, it was still bad. Walk up, kick the knife away, tap, drunk tank for 8 hours, back out they go to do it again. Fuck reagan.
>>65334248Not on nu/k/, and you can thank hiroshimoot for that. All we get now is stock images or twitter/reddit screencaps that are clearly intended to start an off topic conversation. I bet the mods even leave this thread up until the bump limit.
>>65334233NTA but why are /pol/chuds and miggers so likely to bring up r*ddit unprompted?Not just the site itself, but specific boards?Is it because that's they found out about 4chan when the Trump board got nuked?If so, why pretend? Who do they think that they're fooling?
>>65334330I always enjoy asking them why reddit is hated here, they never know.
>>65334330Why do you know so much about reddit?
>>65334330Jesus i never thought it was possible for someone to not outgrow /the_donald. I guess they had to go somewhere, but its been a fucking decade.
>>65334336Shut up magat, you shame yourself
>>65334318>avoids the questionIt's not even a drop in the bucket among COVID relief fraud. It is good that they caught it, as with any fraud, but it gets outsize attention. There are worse cheats out there who no one gives a fuck about because it didn't happen with Somalis (possibly the most dysgenic group of people to ever walk the Earth after abos).>>65334319I've got a fucked up story my parents told me, I'll post in another post.
>>65334345Do share, I've got my favorite no good deed story on standby.
>>65334345 cont.>be my mom>live in DC>Reagan throws all the completely insane out on the street>mom is walking to work>there's a bum out on the street>big black dude, profoundly mentally retarded (we're talking 20-40 IQ range)>disgusting, matted hair, not been cut in at least a year or two>soiled himself>hes literally standing there with the same mental activity as a houseplant>dressed in rags>there's a huge tear in his pants>his dick is hanging out>shock>my mom a proper lady from the South; she is horrified but also concerned that no one is doing anything>calls the police.>police calls EMS>EMS takes him awayNow, knowing what you know about the government, what solution do you think they chose to solve this problem.>a. new haircut, shave and shower>b. a comprehensive mental health plan>c. take him a long-term care facility>d. new pants>e. euthanized himIf you guessed a. and d., you are CORRECT!Same guy, same place, same drooling vacant expression. BUT new clothes and haircut. Problem solved!>in b4 Ramjeets cuckposting There was a sadder story she told, there was a guy that I guess used to work as a conductor. Got institutionalized at some point, let go under Reagan. This poor bastard immediately went out on the street (where else is he gonna go?) so he went back to the bus station and would just wander onto the buses he used to conduct. No one stopped him. He'd be completely silent until the bus got like 100-200 yds from each stop. And they he'd bellow the stop.>CAPITOL HEIGHTS! CAPITOL HEIGHTS! >TICKETS TICKETS!>ALL AAAAAABOARD!and then when the bus finished for the day he'd get off (or get let off) and he'd sleep at one of the stops :(Fuck Reagan, seriously.
>>65334064>>65334030>>65334158Braindead retards.
>>65334400Some homeless just want to be homeless mate. There's spaces going begging in full time homeless shelters here in the UK, but derros won't use them because they're not allowed to take drugs in them.
>>65334346Sorry your safe space got nuked post jeet flood magatard. Sorry you got mad enough to mass report everyone like the redditor you will always be.>>65334400Mine>vol gig still, trying to be a good human being on christmas eve>emt/firefighter, mostly support roles>get a call for a tanker to run water to an ongoing structure fire>house is turbofucked>about 4 runs back and forth in a 40 mph max tanker>got the story from the investigator>older couple invited a bum in, its christmas after all>let him crash on the couch and they go upstairs for bed>he lights a crack (?) pipe>passes out, hot pipe falls onto newspaper>burns the house down>3 dead>cameras uploaded it all to the cloud before they meltedThe asylums could have been reformed, but elimination was fucktarded.
>>65334496Some boomer must have really gotten his chain yanked.
>>65333555First they killed all the dirty commies, and I helped. Then they killed all the darkies, and I laughed. Then they killed all the jews because they were stupid and didn't listen to me when I told them to go after the jews first because they were integral to making the former groups influential and important enough to eliminate in the first place.Then they never came for me because they did exactly what everyone wanted them to do and I had been a more extreme racist imperialist than they could ever hope to be for decades.
>>65334522I apologize, you're not the most reddit being here, that would be whatever boomer got butthurt over some cold take.
>>65331815Assuming you are a law-abiding citizen, you comply. You have nothing to fear.
>>65334482Christ that's horrible. Sorry you had to deal with shit. Good on you for volunteering so someone else didn't have to see what you saw and suffer what you did.For me it was seeing the people that were just beginning to sink. Like they were beginning to fall through the cracks, and the smallest effort would save them. from a really long time ago:>pick up kid at bus station one evening>he called us (always a good sign, less likely to get stabbed/excreted on)>"trouble breathing">hes like 25, get him in ambo>assess patient, hes still normal enough that I don't notice anything off until I ask for address>"uh i dont remember, I just moved here...">clams up>realize a few tells that weren't apparent at first in the bumpy ambo>has a tic>has the start of that schizoid mask>realize hes covered in grime but still had to wherewithal to bother cleaning his hands/face/neck, so that I didnt notice he'd been living hard until i did lung sounds under his shirt>has an anime sweatshirt, One Piece or Bleach or something>I dont know shit about it except for memes, but I try to engage him>the medic disapproves anything he doesnt understand, but no one cares what paramagicians think>kid starts to open up>reluctantly reveal my power level and talk about FMA, SNK for like 30 mins>kid was so desperate for human interaction he won't shut up and let us take the rest of his history>medic finally asks if hes feeling better>"oh yeah haha im good...">any relatives we can call?>silence, looks about to cry>realize he just wanted a place to sleep and probably cant live at home anymore>very beginning of schizophrenia>drop him off, say goodbye>feel like shitDidn't see him again so maybe he got help. But probably not.I think about that poor kid in his anime sweatshirt, and wonder if hes still wearing it out in the cold. He's not even top 100 worst calls i've been on, but he sticks with me more than most of the others. Bastard cruel world.
>>65334607>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_KnivesYou are going to (briefly) feel a bit silly when you and all the other useful idiots get turned on when you're no longer needed. A tale as old as time itself, but chuds are incapable of learning.
>>65334417>why wont mentally ill people just act sensiblyyeah its a mystery they must like being insane
>>65334752>At least 85 people died during the purge, although the final death toll might have been higher,[b][c][d] with some estimates running from 700 to 1,000.Wow I always thought that it must have been like a hundred thousand people as much as leftists talk it upLiterally who cares
>>65331815Depends. If it's the TSA or ATF, they get >>65333303 and can go on ahead and fuck off back into their office. If it's the FBI or CIA or one of those infrastructure security firms, I'd be willing to shoot the breeze with them, maybe even let them stay over lunch.
>>65334758>it'll never be me!Those were just the most important ones.The rank-and-file got to die in Russia or France or Southeastern Europe while the Great Leader got more and more addicted to drugs. And with his final words he cursed the people who had died for him by the millions for failing.Better yet just be a first-worlder, reject your brown third-world instincts and let the ideas you champion stand by their own merit. If you're right, you won't need brutish violence to get your way. Or don't listen to me. It won't be my mass grave.
>>65334787whoops meant >>65334763
>>65334787>Better yet just be a first-worlderYou say while insulting the sacrifice of a first world nation to keep back the asiatic hordes
>>65331827Found the loyalist
>>65334607Holy based.
>>65331832>I would fight them, win, and be vindicated in a Court of Law.
>>65331837You can help by licking my boot, peasant
Whole lotta this in the (You)s.
>>65334809What roman law did Christ break, retard?
>>65334796>You say while insulting the sacrifice of a first world nation to keep back the asiatic hordes>keep backReally tired of this ridiculous meme.The Nazis destroyed more European buildings, literature, artworks and tradition, and killed more whites, in their ~15 years in power than anyone else had in the last century or more.>sacrificeYeah starting a war and losing and sacrificing millions of lives.>ima hold back the Asiatic horde!>*starts a three-front war against several times their own population, and an order of magnitude more than their total land and resources*>*makes everyone's colonies declare independence after the war*If you were serious about civilization you'd loathe Hitler not just for his failures during the war and his needless destruction of European culture, but also for the postwar order he brought about with his greed and ineptitude.But you're just an ignorant LARPing idiot who cheers on whites killing whites on the instigation of the original LARPing faggot (who wasn't even German and it mindbroke him). The tradition lives on this day.
>>65331832lollmao evenThey're going to drill you in the back of the head and then get a pension for emotional trauma, then leave the country.
>deradicalization bot glowing brighter than the sun ITT
>>65334835I dont care about civilization and I want it destroyed, hitler was a Wotanic avatar that the whole world lives under. He was right and zog controlled UK and USA had to fight >>65334822who cares about christianity, its for browns now and responsible for mass immigration and they want to make sex illegal, christian morals are servile and spineless
>>65334848What a faggott. >>65334796
>>65334822Treason and Sedition for being "King of the Jews," retard....read a fucking book
>>65334853two different posters ahki
>>65334858You aren't familiar with "t." I take it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGBVpyiW-9MFuck /leftyk/
>>65331815If It's ICE shake their hands and direct them to the nearest illegal
>>65334944>please exploit me harder daddy bourgeois!>take my surplus value of labor, I've been a bad little cuck for capitalism You are the reason they call us goyim.https://youtu.be/E2lncyoqPlA
>>65334854>The Bible as approved by a faggotNah. https://youtu.be/UOcGy94YrtU
>>65335007>Unironically believing in the labor theory of value
>>65335025All the capital in the world is useless unless you have labor to produce a surplus of value to either products or services said capital is meant to provide. Hope this pdf helps.https://content.csbs.utah.edu/~ehrbar/cap1.pdf
>>65335065>I spent twelve hours making mud pies so therefore I deserve money because of the labor I put into it
>>65335084>I was born a nepo baby so therefore I'm a more productive member of society than a farmer, simply compare our objective monetary valuesThe labor theory of value is a strawman of something Westerners inherently recognize. Wealth is an abbreviated artificial metric, and optimizing for metrics as if they're real poisons them into uselessness.
>>65334848You have to be 18 to post here
>>65335102>Wealth is an artificial metric because... because it just is ok Chud>Also I'm entitled to money because you somehow objectively quantify how much someone's labor is worth
>>65334858>ahkiIsn't that the paki/arab word for brother?
>>65335134Yes>Inb4 anon copes and claims he said ironically
>>65335007>>65335102>us>Westerners
>>65334290>I need to run your ID>Ok...>IDACs comes back clear>ok anon here's your ID backWow
>>65335129Basically, yes. This is standard 17th century New England WASP shit inherited from ye auld Scottish-family-store-in-London paradigm. The culture deliberately refrained from scaling up in pursuit of gains, as we might do in the modern day, in favor of maximizing self-sufficient smallholders' numbers; because that's the whole damn point of the economy. Not gains on spreadsheets, but maximizing personal self-sufficiency and independence, and minimizing the labor required to maintain it. Society consciously sacrificed the optimization of profit for this, because profit was merely a convenient indicator in the pursuit of this goal.Modern capitalism has rejected traditional Western capitalism so hard, the distance between tradition and Marxism is smaller than between the two types of capitalism.
>>65335191>We need to establish Marxism in order to return our traditionalist preindustrial pastLefty/pol/tards are really something else
>>65333849>>65333887It happens to gooks surprisingly enough.https://youtu.be/4i3UXD41F0k?>tl;dw Iowa gook visiting his family gets held for an hour after a traffic stop because he told the cop he was visiting family in California and the cops held him on a drug investigation. He won 40k in a subsequent lawsuit for multiple 4th amendment violations, including running his CCW pistol without proper probable cause.
>>65331815>minding your business, and you find yourself being stopped and harassed by an agentYeah riiight...
>>65331815I wouldn't pull that soverign citizen retardation, that's for certain.
>>65331887Its bearcat not bobcat
>>65334744A lot of those kids are non compliant with their meds and the family can't handle the shit so they get kicked out. Its almost a choice on their part, just take the fucking meds and live with mom & dad. They never do and even worse often sElF mEdIcAte with weed until that big schizo/psychotic break finally hits
>>65331815The same thing you do with any other law enforcement: hand over license and registration, refuse to answer questions without a lawyer, don't act like a retard. If they do something they're not suppose to, lawyer up after the fact and enjoy your settlement.
>>65333741This is the correct answer.Meeting a cop or agent is fundamentally a business exchange, where you don't have as powerful a position as the person you're talking to.Courteous, respectful, volunteer a little extra to sweeten things, don't try and be fucky, don't get cocky, don't try and 'stand up for yourself' and make yourself an 'equal' to be 'man to man', or 'win' the encounter. You win by leaving as soon as possible. It's nothing to you but a time trial.If you absolutely feel hard done by, you can get his ID, or just remember the date, time and license plate, and report him. In 99.9% of civilized countries it won't be police auditing police, so odds are he'll get some flack.
>>65336059Nailed it.
>>65333741Shitposting aside, thisBoth sides play this game, and the winner is the innocent party who is the most patient and waits for the other guy to slip up and cross the line. And if you're truly innocent, the deck is stacked in your favor. So just wait and keep your cool. I've converted a wrongful arrest in cuffs into being begged not to file a report down the station, in this way.
>>65335161Guess they forgot to check that grannies ID then
" I don't even know you're wife get your fucking hands off me!"If you want people to intervene, you have to make them think they hold cards. In this case, that they as a bystander know the three letter agents wife is cheating on him... with someone. It's intriguing, familiar, a common concern. And the second one guy nearby yells that you deserve it for being a home wrecker, another will yell that you didn't do anything. And if you yell "help he's a spy" that doesn't seem plausible, it scares people, and three letter agents typically impersonate some minor authority like a repo man and then policy come to take someone into custody, both so for the camera it looks like a police arrest, and so there are "two" authorities in support of each other. But you say it's a personal beef about someone's wife, suddenly that's a very plausible reason 6 dudes in any uniform might jump a random guy. And if they try to fall back on the truth that it's national security that's SO implausible not a damn person will believe them. Not one. And it hits the net as "police take revenge on cheating partner" or some such, nobody is going to even attempt to check before uploading video footage whether it's really a federal operation. We all got kidnap training prior to being posted because of the likelihood of local authorities trying to kidnap us in relation to diplomatic and commercial disputes. But I point out, that due to the risk of a suspect simply shooting a spy dead in the street, which tends to garner a lot of publicity as well, three letter agents typically disappear people as opposed to kidnap, unless it's in transit.
>>65336052Nobody could be that stupid. If spies kidnap you that's not a legal process, it cannot be lawful or unlawful, it's only popular or unpopular.And you must signal distress at the very first point you lose the ability to sign, you just don't get a second chance. If police pull you over for speeding, and you were speeding, you sign. Because once your hands are on that dash you can't sign, you'll be transferred to a second car, never make it to a cell, you're gone. If you comply with a kidnapper you get kidnapped, how fucking stupid would you feel 30 seconds later in the back of a car, with a gun to your head, nobody knowing where you were while a federal agent is parking your car near a bridge they're going to throw your body off the next day? And if the body is in the water for a week and its unclear when you initially went missing, that case never gets solved.
>>65331832You would be labeled a terrorist before the bullets exit the front of your skull