>The Army spent almost half-a-billion dollars on a Texas ammunition factory to restock the military’s supply of 155 mm artillery shells, but the facility has yet to produce a single round in two years, a Pentagon watchdog found. The facility, in Mesquite, Texas, was brought online in 2024 after rounds of rapid-fire contracting to speed up the Army’s efforts to replenish artillery shells sent to Ukraine and cover increased training needs for U.S. forces.>The Texas factory was supposed to be producing 30,000 155 mm shells each month by October 2025, according to a Department of Defense Inspector General’s report. But by this March, it had yet to deliver any and the IG report said it did not expect to deliver any before September.
>>65332643i can see a nipple
>>65332643its an empty lot with 2 indians claiming to be ammo factory
>>65332654The full manufacturing power of US army btw
>>65332643>contracting
>>65332643>TexasThere's your problem.
Tooling is expensive and takes years to set up properly. Army took a gamble on a shortcut with wrong tooling and it failed.
>>65332643>TexasAnswer is racist.
>>65332916Saar bloody benchod whites not like trustworthy hindus saar
>>65332643>people think America could outproduce China in a war when we can't even build new ships or make new factories to manufacturer ancient artillery technology :/
>>65333086This one time I was walking up stairs and I stubbed my toe, so I'm 100% stairs disabled forever.It's just like that.
>>65333095more like you had 2 years to walk up the stairs but you're still on the ground floor and think that it's perfectly fine and nothing is wrong
>>65333115I walked those stairs 480,000 times just in 2025 btw.
>>65332643Is this that new turnkey factory they bought from Turkey? You know its bad when you import your cutting edge tech from Turkey of all places. Its like importing engineers from India.
>>65333183It's not cutting edge when we're in rhythm producing tons of them annually.
>>65332657Nah. It’s good old fashioned NIMBY-ism
>>65333115and then you remember you don't really need to go upstairs
>>65333086China couldn't even control the South CHINA Sea if they wanted>it's another implessive thread
>>65333259480,000 times a year
>>65333262They are trying to, and just ignoring or dismissing them as a threat is how we get our shit kicked in because we weren't prepared. Stop saying>implessiveand start trying to figure out how to sell a strategy of massacring chinks in fishing boats in the South China Sea to people at home here in America.In theory we could very easily blow up the chinknese fishing boat fleet, or any other [insert enemy here], like Iran for example, but then we have to deal with Wall Street lobbyists (rich civilians) screaming at their senators demanding we stop the war so their share prices stop tanking. Or we have significant (poor civilian) public opposition that also forces a halt to operations in some way or another because apparently just killing the enemy is not politically viable.If you think about it, the greatest enemy the US military has is dumbfuck civilians, and those are a greater enemy than China ever will be.
>>65333484I suggest a Moderate edit
>>65333262>we have millenia of military history on how underestimating your enemy is a horrible idea>/k/: CHING CHONG DING DONG VELLY IMPLESSIVE WE'LL REKT THEM EZPZ GG NO REsigh
>>65333570Right and then we have a war right in front of us with over-estimated stupid faggot pinko niggers.Guess how chinks do be?
>>65333570This is the enemy with an impressive military history right? But this one time right?
>>65332643What do you think went wrong? As far as I can tell General Dynamics got paid half a billion plus 2 undisclosed grants offering great shareholder value.https://seekingalpha.com/news/4580320-us-army-to-proceed-with-delayed-general-dynamics-ammunition-plant---bloomberghttps://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/?parent=general-dynamics&order=state&sort=asc&page=3
>>65333484The US can strike every major chinese port and manufacturing hub with conventional weapons. The chinese can't even reach Hawaii, let alone the west coast. The US enjoys the same advantage it's had for over a century, having no potentially hostile neighbors that can threaten the mainland.>but the ship disparityTonnage wins wars. The chinese have 3 conventional CVs of dubious quality that have yet to even complete a global navigation exercise, let alone naval aviation of any kind.>shell productionIf the US is using tube artillery against the chinese it means china has already lost the naval and air war because the US has invaded them.>overall productionAlmost 1200 F-35s and counting, meanwhile china has yet to produce an actual 5th gen.>but the 6th genLol. Lmao even. Plywood models don't win wars. Being on the third generation of stealth bombers does.
>>65333583Bitch, you just lost a war to Iran.
>>65333583>past performance is alway indicative of future resultsRIP your investment portfolio
>>65333648Right, Ayatollah Trump #1 and #2 dead, entire US navy and air force gone, no us nuclear capability.Total Iran win.SEETHE
>>65333650This one time Cousin Derl's ultimate stock tip is SOLID FUCKIN GOLD!
>>65333570China also has a recent military history of fuckall so there's that
>>65333648wait, it's over?
>>65333691might as well be. US is like Russia
>>65333570>reaction to constant propaganda trying to create artificial consensus about chinese gear>people start filtering it out instinctivelygee i wonder how this happened.
>>65333732Right, Russia killed 2 Zelenskys and 3 Ukrainian cabinets of ministers, losing almost nothing.
>>65333732>US is like russia SAAAR!repeating something will not make it true, thirdie.
"BUT CHING CHONG SHIT ISN'T GARBAGE JUST BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON RUSSIAN..."Post Maduro.
>>65333746>b-but we killed some guys that got replaced the same day!Did that open up the straight? Thanks for closing it, btw. Greatest goys all the way
>>65333775Literally China cares about the strait aside from spare change, Chang. My grocery bill hasn't wobbled this whole time.
>>65333732hundreds of thousands of Americans have been killed in Iran apparently
>>65333775We're going to kill you all you know. Except a bare facade the West is tired of poors.
>>65332643>How does the government fuck up their budget?Niggers and jews
>>65333082Oh and jeets
>>65333617Because you didn't read my post, let me tell you how shit will go down.>China does a microagression/macroagression near Taiwan/the South China Sea>We respond by hitting the chink fishing boat army>China immediately applies economic pressure to Wall Street (rich civilians) by declaring force majeure on cheap Walmart chinkshit and expensive Apple chinkshit saying that they can't deliver any goods to US companies due to this "war">At the same time, they start using social media talking about how the US blew up Hongki the poor fisherman and his three cats on a fishing boat that definitely wasn't a chink naval asset. If the US struck their mainland or any of their bases on their artificial islands, they'll spam some bullshit about how the US hit the kindergarten on the chink military base. They'll also start spamming in EVERY SINGLE social media site about getting drafted for a war in China, thus also applying pressure on the general public (poor civilians)>Poor liberals will be all up in arms against the war because they hate America in the first place, while poor conservative chuddies will be anti-"dying for ZOGmerica". Normies will see "AMERICA BLEW UP CATS and a chink fisherman" and that's the only news story they will remember, that America blew up catsThe resulting public fervor causes political issues for the current ruling party, and by the midterms or next presidential election, the new congress or presidency is inclined to just sue for peace with the chinks. If a Democrat president is in charge, the anti-war liberals will simply sit out the election and cause a Republican win. A Republican president is in power? You get what we see now with Trump - massively declining support for the Republican party while shitlibs are all hopped up and angry.This is the big flaw with the US government - terms are too short to allow for protracted wars. I could also go into detail on the need to allow for looting in war, but the character limit sucks ass
>>65333787It's true. My dog was deployed to Iran and hasnt returned my mail in six weeks.
>>65333784Ignoring the prices at the pump now, are we? Gas prices went from sub $3/gallon in my area to over $5/gallon. It's back down to just over $3.80/gallon now, but the gas prices are still up, and this is exactly why no one supports the war with Iran. We could just hijack Iranian naval vessels and seize Iranian oil and sell it for rock bottom prices in the US and force gas down to under $2/gallon, but we don't have the balls to do bold shit like that. We should, but we're bitch niggers. Loot, people. It's what we should do in war.
>>65333893nta but my gas prices went up less than a dollar and even now it's barely higher than before the war.
>>65333893>we don't have the balls to do bold shit like thatIt would take trillions of dollars, tens of thousands of lives and decades likely ending like Afghanistan the second we leave.
>>65333570We have millenia of history that show China is pathetic. Suck my dick, shill faggot.
>>65333861>china has economic leverage over the united states, their largest customerAHAHAHAHABABAHAHAH
Whats with the delusional jingoism in this thread? The USA can't even control the Strait of Hormuz, facing China is out of the question. We can't even best the ultra-sanctioned Islamic theocracy we've been preparing to battle for decades and take control over the tiny lane of water that the petrodollar relies on. China would eat our lunch and cripple our country and you know it.
>>65334005>what's with the delusional chinese jingoism in this thread?/k/ is heavily targeted by 50 cent-ers>l-le US can't even!it can, it just doesn't have the political capital for another full-out sandwar with deployed troops, something trumpy boy specifically campaigned he wasn't gonna do.once again thirdies make estimations of US capability based on the US...not using it's capabilities, genius.>petrodollarHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>o-ourHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>65334005So long as Iran can hit a cargo ship from 50km they can close the strait, for the US to open it they need to launch a full scale land invasion and control ~1000km of coastline.The US is going to lose to Iran not because Iran has a more powerful military but because Irans goals are much easier to achieve.
>>65333861>it's another china will do x and nobody else will do anything because that would be mean and not fair post.
booby booby booby
>>65333893my gas barely wobbled lol
>>65334021Another opportunity to continue the thousand year China humiliation. They really are such trash. If they weren't dickless lady-boy One Child fags, they'd attack. Winnie the Pooh has no cock.
>>65333775those goalposts grew legs
>>65334019the US still retains a rich set of escalatory actions
>>65332643Europe out doing US again.
>>65333893>over $5/gallondam sun u live in shit area
>>65334369Bitch please, i live in a red state and they did that. I cant imagine what happened to my fucking illinoying neighbors.
>>65334334The only realistic option is to bomb the fuck out of Iranian power infrastructure and bridges. Maybe desalination plants too. The problem is that if we do that, Iran will unleash a nuclear temper tantrum and blow up all of the GCC pipelines and refineries. This would fuck up oil prices for a decade as it would take a very long time to repair the damage on this facilities. Iran would probably fall as it would mean they have no water, money or power left, but I would not guess it would be a quick process, they would drag it out for a couple of years before collapse.
>>65334390>I cant imagine what happened to my fucking illinoying neighborsnot enough
>>65334390I live in a blue state and my gas never even got close to $5
>>65334394yeah we'll see how self-destructive they are. i'm not sure trump's threats are working on the hardliners. the threats work on the more sensible ones but it's obviously easy for the hardliners to sabotage them.
>>65333732Russia gained land, it's much easier to count that as a win than the US against Iran.
>>65333784>got mine, fuck everyone elseI'm European and and I get why South America hates you
>>65332643>https://taskandpurpose.com/news/texas-ammo-factory-zero-shells/>the Army allowed General Dynamics to convert machines used for M107 shells, an older 155 mm round that the M795 replaced>the new production lines were never able to produce acceptable M795 parts using the reworked equipmentIt's amazing that "journalists" still think it is acceptable to fluff up an entire goddamned article when they can answer their own question in two fucking sentences.these people need to be whipped with an extension cable until they learn to appreciate brevity
>>65334489nta but why the fuck should I care what south america thinks? or euros for that matter.
>>65334489Sorry change they hate you more
>>65333966>>65334021Let me repeat myself.Wall Street (rich people/lobbyists) will oppose the war because the cheap manufacturing base that allows them to make short term profits for shareholders will no longer be available. Leftists and right wing chuddies will oppose the war on the basis of either "we're killing nonwhite people so bad war!" or "we're fighting for the jews". Wall street has lobbyists, shitlibs and chuddies have votes. Wall Street wants cheap labor and cheap manufacturing, which China has. Shitlibs and chuddies want America to fail, fall, or be reformed into a society of their desire, and that means opposing any wars or conflicts the current form of government gets into.Any war with China will not be doomed by Chinese military might, but by political opposition and restrictions at home. We will not lose a war with China because they sank half of our carriers, but because of corporate interests and people who can vote who oppose the US altogether.Sure, we can occupy Afghanistan for 20 years. But the ROE made by shitlibs in the State Department says you can't use heavy weapons near civilians, so the Taliban will be firing off RPGs from the top floor of the local school while classes are in session, and all you can do is pull back and try another day. You can't kill the pedos in the Afghan government who are fucking little boys, because the pedos just shook hands with top US diplomats and arresting them for fucking kids would embarrass the State Department, so you have to sit there and listen to the screams of kids being raped. The Taliban, of course, will be recruiting those rape victims.We will not lose the war because we lack military might or they possess it. We will lose the war because the civilians back home are obsessed with looking good for the news stories (like the State Department), hate America and want it to fail (shitlibs and chuddies), or have vested financial interests in the countries we are fighting (Wall Street)
>>65333570Frustrating, isn't it
>>65334586Only intelligent poster in Chinese threads I've seen in a long time
>>65334352may I see it?
>>65334659https://tvpworld.com/88592214/nato-chief-rutte-europes-artillery-shell-production-has-surged-sixfold-in-two-years
>>65332643>as of March 2026, the production rate is 36,000 rounds per month, or 432,000 rounds per yearthis is about 8x-10x of pre-war production, by the way
>>65332643Everyone adjacent to government is grafted grifters.It’s part of the selection process. Russian tier since at least the end of the Cold War.Pair that up with a system built upon an aversion to doing anything with labor that isn’t jeets out sourced or imported where the outcome doesn’t matter and it’s over
why are there so many chink shills today? did something happen?
>>65334688Xi had some people shot.
>>65334708ah, that would do it.
>>65333086Invade us then chink nigger.
>>65334720https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Sister_Hong_incidentPeople are still being arrested and shot because of this, the lastest was today. All the news is garbage so it is "anon said so".
>>65334688>if you raise concerns about american weaknesses you're a chink shilli'm going to laugh so hard at americans on this board if a war in taiwan actually does break out because they're like retarded children at this point
>>65335598ok, chink shill
>>65335598>i'm going to laugh so hard at americans on this board if a war in taiwanim going to raff so hard when China tries something, anything, and it fails
>>65335664>https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/07/05/dont-shoot-the-rubber-trees-vet-recalls-absurd-rules-of-engagement-gis-faced-in-vietnam-war/>Vietnam’s principle cash crop was rubber...This stuff was then either smoked or steamed, bound into a bundle, powdered with talc and stencilled with the name of the owner of the plantation and its fruits: Michelin.>The French were still there, or at least their colonial mercantile representatives were. The rubber went out to make tires, shoes and other goods. Cash came back. The war might interrupt lives and, in many cases, end them, but the business of rubber went on pretty much interrupted>American artillery was one thing the North Vietnamese respected. It wasn’t all that accurate, but there was a lot of it. During a barrage, hundreds of shells could fall from the sky, bracketing an enemy position, wrecking everything. But not in the rubber plantations; they were off limits to American batteries.>Whether Bunker himself approved this policy I can’t attest, but it was a rule to avoid firing into the plantations. Once the enemy had figured this out, the way was clear. Even if you’re not as smart as say, Ellsworth Bunker, or the local North Vietnamese commander, you decided to set up shop in the rubber plantation, digging in headquarters, hospitals and barracks. And posting guards to warn when the poor benighted 11th ACR came through.>But artillery ruined the rubber trees, which cost money. That the policy also cost lives, American lives, seemed to be a secondary concern...And providing enemy a safe place to hide, to make sure the Michelin Tire Company didn’t suffer any losses, was advice from hell.
>>65336140bot broke
>>65336155You're a nigger and I'm still typing because I should be asleep and I'm not.If the rubber story hasn't hammered home the fatal flaws that /k/ keeps not addressing, then let me explain how this will work.We attack China, or China attacks first. Doesn't matter who, only that this escalates into a proper shooting war.Normally, the force with a stronger navy would implement a blockade. However, Tim Apple needs his iphones that are made in China, and the extended Walton family needs cheapshit chinkshit. As such, this "blockade" will be ineffective at best, as vessels sail to and from China, business as usual, because there are vested economic interests in continuing to ship cheap chinkshit or expensive chinkshit from China to America. And we haven't even gotten to the bit about how the retarded Europeans have decided to deindustrialize fully in favor of simply making everything in China forever. Their fault, but our government may be weak enough to submit to their demands. Don't believe me? We desanctioned Iranian crude because of le oil prices. Michelin rubber is just another historic example. Chinkshit will be a third.Assuming the chink carriers are sunk, the fishing boat navy is destroyed, and we have total - if useless - control of the seas, we now need to address the issue of the chinese mainland itself. The US government, having received many calls from lobbyists, Tim Apple, the Waltons, and all the other major US companies, have implemented ROE stating that we cannot hit any chinese manufacturing centers. It doesn't matter that the drone bombs and iphones come out of the same factory, we can't hit it, because then Tim Apple's shares might go down in value slightly, and the US government is obligated to compensate Tim Apple for damage to his chink factory if we cause any damage at all to it.
Meanwhile, domestically, this war with China causes everything to become more expensive. Midterms happen every 2 years, so unless we totally defeat China within a single year, there will be insanely negative political consequences for the party in charge. The Economy has always been the primary concern for the general American public, and with rising prices, now it's not just the shitlibs and the chuddies who are upset. The normalfags are upset now too.Speaking of the chuddies and shitlibs, they oppose the US as it currently is, and their economic message is what actually resonates with normalfags, not Total Nigger Death/Total Faggot Pride. The economic message will be simple:>What are we fighting for? Rich Jews In American Government!Remember those Rules of Engagement I was talking about? Joe Normie opposes the war for economic reasons, and now he sees US soldiers dying because we're not allowed to shell the everliving fuck out of the chink drone factory, because Tim Apple's Macbook Pro factory is next door. Joe Normalfag knows that he will gain absolutely nothing from us winning the war, while losing it quickly might return us to the status quo quicker. He also knows that if we win, Tim Apple, the Waltons, Wall Street, they will profit like mad while he gets shafted by inflation. In Joe Normalfag's mind, he can see no benefit at all to winning or fighting, and while fighting, he'll be suffering economic pain.
>>65333787Its true. Those school kids were all American
