HK in my hand editionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikTarget(s) of the month for July. Shoot some redcoats. If you pass the first one, try the second.https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/kloq65.pdfAttach this month's archive code "hg-qual-7-26" to help the collage maker find entriesOther printable targets and drills:https://www.tier1concealed.com/pages/three-sevens-drillPrevious: >>65329253
First for EDC
>>65334136>glock>iphone>toyota The jokes just write themselves.
My 4506 guide rod just murdered my monitor, lol
>>65334198my dad did that with the recoil spring of his new 1911 into the ceiling of the hotel room
>>65334128>it keeps saying my new thread is spamThe system knows your shit taste
>>65334198Lmao I had the same thing happen with some airshit pistol years ago, I slammed the mag in, overtravel because airshit quality caused the gas valve to get hit which spat CO2 and a BB out the barrel.
>>6533422445 ACP is the deadliest caliber on Earth.
>>65334227Let's see Paul Allen's handgun.
>>65334251>Paul Allen's handgunHere, I dislike it.
>>65334128Yes
>>65334167whats the joke? that he likes glocks, iphones, and toyotas? how is that funny?
>>65334256How about posting your own?>>65334261Nice, I have a .45 Expert too. No Tactical, though.
>>65334269>posting your own?My HK? I can later, it's in the back of the storage cabinet.
>>65334262The "i dont think for myself, i just get whatever's popular" starter pack
>>65334276Very nice.
>>65334292>think for myselfThose of you that force this shit are jerks. I went down that path of "think for myself" when I first got into firearms and it was a dumb decision. If I could go back in time I would stop myself.
>>65334292anon why do you think those things are popular
>>65334292>glockworks forever, perfectly fine>toyotaassuming it's more than five years old, works forever, perfectly fine
>>65334325They had the best marketing
I didn't do pitcairns button one handed but not too shabby if I'm being quite desu with myself
>>65334347Those are some great groups with micro compacts. How do you like the HK compared to the FN or other micros? Worth the premium?
>>65334325Do you think Burgerking makes the best hamburger?
These werent mag dumps but as fast as I could get the dot back in the general vicinity. I'm working on not prepping the trigger and making every trigger pull a fast but steady pull even at slower speeds to mimic how my fingies be moving at faster speeds
>>65334363>absolutely groupmogging pantybinBased
>>mfw missed out on the P2000 which is the perfect combination of aesthetics and featuresI wish the P30 was more square and the USPc grip was longer.
>>65334386Literally EVERY product made today in EVERY field of interest is ugly as shit now, what the fuck happened
More strays on these groups but I was really pushing for speed, trying to shoot just on a streak of color returning. I slowed down on that bottom left one I think though >>65334357Thanks! The only other true micros I've shot have been a p365, p365x, and a g43x. I immediately liked the vp9cc more than the 365s and I shot the 43x really well so it's hard to knock that one too much but it's definitely more snappy. Vp9cc takes the cake for recoil impulse and trigger feel. Still got a little of the trigger bite with the vp9 but I've built up my calluses a bit more since then so roughly 300 rounds through it today and no blisters or blood509c is easier to shoot because it's a little chunkier and has really nice grip textureI brought my p30sk too because I haven't shot it in a while and it's smoother than the vp9cc but I couldn't bring myself to shoot more than 3 mags with itOverall I think the vp9cc is worth the price if you're a paddle enjoyer, if you can cope with button release I'm sure there are cheaper guns with similar recoil (hellcat pro and such?) it's also just a really good looking gun
>>65334362Do you think burger king is more popular than mcdonalds? Are you even American?
>>65334413I think burger king makes a better burger but it's certainly less popular than dirty rons
Posting my USPs in an HK bro thread
>>65334413I think your moms popular
>>65334420How does the recoil in the tac compare to the 45 compact?
>>65334412Thanks for the write up, I may end up picking one up in a couple years once they go on sale. The look of them is fantastic so the fact they shoot so well is nice to hear.
>>65334167Don't shit talk Toyotas, fag
>>65334420
I've heard people say pocket revolvers are uncomfortable to shoot for extended periods and not very accurate. And those people are right. That said, still really enjoyed this little guy.
>>65334262The joke was pantybin had to settle for a good ol toyota because his dodge charger was repoed.
>>65334438>not very accurate.Good enough
>>65334428Enormously less recoil on the tactical. The USP45c is very gentle for a compact .45, but the USP45T has the size and recoil system to handle .45 very softly.
>>65333798Look on the bright side. The pistols cost so much that if they don't declare bankruptcy before figuring out what heat treatment is or how to flip their back strap release upside down, or how to make a pistol feed from a magazine, they'll make their money back quickly.
>>65334448I had similar groups. Good enough the vast majority of self-defense situations.
>>65334276>>65334261>>65334256>>65334128>>65334386>>65334436God damn I love H&K Handguns.>>65334457I have to say that shooting the USP Tactical and Mark 23 back to back suppressed, the Mark 23 is easily twice as soft shooting as the Tactical. It's pretty shocking.
>>65334413Do you think McDonalds makes the best hamburger?
>>65334478It's on my list, I have some long gun builds I have to do first.
>>65334362no, that would be hardees
>>65334485a mcdouble with extra pickles is pretty good. Yesterday I had two and that was the only food I consumed. 5.86 after tax, paid cash so they can't track me.
>>65334478>I love H&K Handguns.Same.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY
Hugging and Kissing guns? Gay ass brand lmao.
>>65334478>Mark 23 is easily twice as soft shooting as the Tacticalyeah the fuckhueg slide of the MK23 makes 45 insanely controllable. for the shit that gets talked on it for being $2300, there are certain things that it does really well
The only HK I own is a VP9SK can I still hang out with you guys
>>65334503no one said otherwise
>>65334377Apples to oranges, grid targets are not applicable for my purposes.>>65334167>glockUltimate reducer of melanin.>iphoneIncluded free with the data line.>toyotaIt just works.>>65334327Mine was manufactured in the autumn of 2019.
Personally, I liked to watch The Sopranos.
Luv me VP9cc
I drive a Honda, carry a glock, wear a g shock, and eat at McDonald's
>>65334478hk makes a 1911?
I drive a Fiat, carry a PX4, wear Giogio Armami and eat at local pizza joints
I drive a Mazda, carry a HK, don't wear jewelry, and fancy a smashburger cooked on a cast iron skillet
>>65334362that would be Cookout
>>65334516>can't hit for shit>um akshully I don't need targetsThe whole world is your target LMAO
>>65334582that dude still posts in every thread?
>>65334573Smash burgers are god tier taste
>>65334585pantybin is a disease
Blackbeard customs is now making a guide rod mounted comp that works with railed frames. It’s made of steel so from the weight alone it does a decent job for recoil control.
>>65334534We finally got it. I told you guys.
>>65334478>God damn I love H&K Handguns.Why though? What about HK inspires this weird brand cult they have?
Any rmsc optics that are especially cool looking or unique? I already have a sig romeo clear.
>>65334602not him, but you're allowed to love other handguns...
>>65334602Because their "fuck you I know what I've got" pricing can be easily justified by their quality. They know it and everyone who buys HK knows it
guys... get this...you're allowed to like other brands of handguns, too.
>>65334603MPS-CEotech Eflex Enclosed Vortex Enclosed defender
>>65334602>Why though?I understand why us oldfags like H&K but I'm a little baffled why young guys do. Though most of the young guys I know shoot Sig, Shadow System or Canik
>>65334602HK doesn't really have a cult any more than other brands do, poors just hate it because they can't justify $1100 for a non-optic polymer DA/SA pistolThe P320 linebackers' league has been by far the most irritating group of gunowners in recent memorybefore that, hipsters were acting like they'd discovered the ark of the covenant by buying a CZyou also have the 1911 boomer defense leaguecurrent year, it's p365's and 2011s>>65334638they just run
>>65334599The VP9cc seems fine but posting this radioactive shill sours my mood on it.
>current year, it's p365's and 2011sPredict the next big thing.
I unronically like taurus and keltec my taurus spectrum has never failed and is a regular in the carry rotation
>>65334648>radioactive shillMe? I was always right.
Congratulations, you jumped the shark so hard that anon isn't even sure whose posts belong to whom.>>65334198Captured guide rods FTW!>>65334347>>65334347>Hornady Critical DutyI used to carry that daily and it always cycled reliably.>>65334526>The SopranosGradually declined after the first season, blatant pandering to women and queers.>>65334582Every round was on-paper, get some glasses. >>65334412>trying to shoot just on a streak of color returningIn this racket, we call that shooting reactively.
>>65334650I can break bread with people that like Kimber and Taurus. No Sigger will ever have a place at my table
>>65334649polymer slides
>>65334661He's a total retard who spouts stupid shit that I don't even think actual HK employees on commission would have the balls to say, I feel my interest in the VP9cc wane every time I see that name pop up.
>>65334664What about a P226 9mm? I was thinking about one of those.
>>65334671>He's a total retard who spouts stupid shitWhat the fuck? I wouldn't even say that about you
>>65334667
>>65334678You heard me. He better be getting checks from HK for being such a cocksucker about every single HK product that HK shits out for good or bad.
>>65334681The VP9CC is actually very good, what is your problem?
>>65334649i think the era of the 2011 will stick around for a whilesomeone will either release or amplify the marketing for some low bore axis fixed barrel design and send one to pewview, who will do his stupid shit with it and people with more money than sense will bandwagon on itpoors will permutate into alloy and even bigger frames for the p365XXXXXL and the 43x and 49 will gather steam until glock releases the 50 (probably a 19 with a slightly longer grip and factory steel 43x-type magazines) and retires the 19 and will return us to the fullsize/duty carry yuga of 2016handgun vogue operates on a continuum of>ugh, I want to be comfortable, this gun is too big>This small gun is great! It doesn't shoot awesome, but I can look past that>Wow, these duty-size guns really shoot well, I should carry it>Carrying a duty gun's not bad, I value shooting more than comfortable concealment>ugh, I want to be comfortable...
>>65334686I don't like obvious shills even if they're doing it for free.
>>65334693>19 with a slightly longer gripbut... why? It's already long enough. More ammo?
>>65334649I'm hoping it's Laugo Alien style gas operated pistols with fixed optics mounts / irons.
>>65334031I like it a lot, but I'm partial to it because it was my first too. All my issues with it I believe come from user error because of my ineptitude with firearms. >First time shooting >Sometimes the slide doesn't fully reset >Don't know what's wrong>I was shooting it dry out of the box, not a drop of lubricant on the gunBig thing for me too was ease of disassembly. Take the mag out, flip a single lever, pull slide forward off frame. It's not one of these guns that take three hands and special tools to take apart.Pic is my 7.62x25 sexo brick. Love my a tokarev caliber gun
>>65334672If it's made in West Germany, sure
>>65334563Sorry. I'll take a picture of all my H&K pistols just for you, slick.
>>65334697I'm sorry you feel that way, because he has a lot of videos taking about HK guns and going into explicit detail about the innards. I think you should get over that.
>>65334649Laugo Alien clones
>>65334602Because of the way they shoot, the way they look and their reliability.
>>65334702Eh, I'm not a collector.
>>65334700>>65334705Could be neat, but what a goofy gun.
>>65334698big guns shoot better, long grip is generally more comfortablethe 60% of the population that doesn't have big hands seem to really like the 43x, so cutting down on the amount of polymer thickening things by dropping the end plate and thinning the grip and magazine seems like the natural direction glock's goingI'm not saying I like it, I mean thick grip panels on a non-vertec 92 is basically my ideal grip size and shape so none of this applies to memost companies have been coasting on marketing a "compact" pistol that they made "more ergonomic" by just blowing up its proportions to that of a normal midsize gun. the future will probably be taking duty/fullsize guns and shrinking them because "you get the spectacular feel and controllability of a fullsize gun, in a smaller package!" because consumers are stupid
>>65334614>>65334709Except they aren't particularly special in any of those regards? Above average lifespan/reliability, I'll give them that.Otherwise? There isn't anything special about the fit and finish, the designs, etc. They are widely known for objectively meh triggers.I like my P30L because of the grip ergos. It's the size of a G17 with 2 rounds less in the mag. The finish is weaker than a Gen3/4 Glock.Cultists really calling themselves out itt.
>>65334714The only goofy thing about it is the slide cuts and comically oversized magwell. Both of which only pass because it's targeted mainly at competitive shooters as they are the only ones willing to pay that kind of money for a pistol that is a bit more sensitive to loading in exchange for a small performance advantage.That bore axis and fixed sight setup is sexy as FUCK.
>>65334671>>65334681>>65334697Teufelshundtactical literally works for HK USA.
>>65334734yeah and he's fucking wrong and a liar
>>65334629Thanks
>>65334725I shoot the USP platform of handguns better than any other handgun I'd carry for protection. They have been 100% reliable for thousands of rounds. Like others said before, it has a Euro brutal design that is timeless. I love the ergonomics of the grip, the oversized trigger guard and controls. The match trigger and LEM light triggers are amazing. Even the stock trigger can be good, or decent, but it's never a detraction where I am missing shots. Better than a Glock for sure. So if I have a handgun that's reliable, and I shoot it the best, why wouldn't it be my favorite handgun?
>>65334725I mean there is certainly something special about the designs to me. Theyre like a 1980s bmw. Simple, boxy, angular, but still somehow sleek. I can't think of another brand that nails aesthetics the way hk does
>>65334740Hey if it works for you, it works for you. USP does indeed have a timeless look. I never liked LEM triggers myself. There's nothing wrong with a handgun being your favorite because you shoot it the best.>>65334748Is this really true of any handgun after the USP though? They've been moving away from that aesthetic.
>>65334725Every black semi auto gun looks identical to me and I can't tell the difference between the hk or glock in this picture
>>65334663I put two boxes of critical duty +P through it while I was testing carry ammo with it before I remembered it's not rated for +P. So I stepped it down to standard pressure critical defense 115g
>>65334740>Better than a Glock for sureI was agreeing with you until you got to that point
>>65334602>Why though?It's usually because of a computer game, motion picture, animé or manga.>>65334760>can't tell the difference>melanin afflictedMany such cases!>>65334766>not rated for +P. So I stepped it down to standard pressureI thought the point of +P was to maximize MV's out of a subcompact.
>>65334224One of those bull barrels you need the little tool to compress the spring on the guide rod to disassemble?
>>65334815forgot linkhttps://www.kgbcustom.com/bond-arms-bullpup-rare-boberg-design-9mm
USP knife
>>65334534I gotta gets me one of dem, vp9a1f is a bit too large for cc. I have to wear very specific things to conceal it
>>65334832I've been carrying one of my P30s for the past few years so I was interested in getting something smaller with a dot. My holster for it finally shipped today.
>>65334128How are your proof and serial marks so bright white? Mine have a kind of dingy yellowish tinge to them despite my gun being newer than yours. Is there a method of cleaning that would improve the look without harming the finish?>inb4 you should pour this ultra corrosive acid on your serial number anon heh hehSave yourself the keystrokes, I’m not THAT retarded
>>65334841That's the main reason I'm thinking of the vp9cc. Small, same mag release, vp9 drop safety, the optics equipped model isn't that much more expensive than the OR, and I trust the performance of 9mm HST if I ever needed it.
>>65334592Sell me on the P30L as my next fun.
>>65334855I've put a few hundred rounds through mine at this point and I'm very happy with it. It fills the hand nicely with the extended mag and shoots very well. I've been pretty comfortable carrying the P30 but I would imagine this will feel even nicer.
My manual calls me an operator, does yours?
Yes
>>65334915I should take my guns out on a field trip again. They yearn for the trees.
>>65334915I heard it has a similar trigger to the vp9a1f, I love my trigger so I'm pretty sold on it. Gonna talk to the FFL I'm close with and see about getting one in
>>65334919How many payments you got left on that thing?
>>65334919Why do you have an instruction booklet with no optic?
>>65334950He put the acog on a credit card that's currently maxed and has to get his money's worth for validation online (it was used but he spent 1500$). SNAPbin is on disability so he's not paying it off for another 2 years.
>buying HK>in the current or any yearlol
>>65334982what's his disability?>>65334987>t.nonoperator
>>65334996Obesity
>>65334997I wasn't talking about burt
>>65334614lol no>>65334815Okay deal because of the mags, but not stellar. The guns are only about $700 used now
>>65335000Burt's a skinny twink actually. Look up Gunbelievable on youtube
>>65335022damn there goes that headcanon
>>65335037He has some good vids even if they come off a little preachy sometimes
>>65335037I've met Burt before but it was dark and stormy, I only got a good look at him through the flashes of thunder. The voice is wrong, too skinny, and he's not pale enough.
>>65335047I heard he was completely hairless, and pale too
We've seen Burt's hands ITT before. He's a large fellow
>>65335004DELET THIS
>>65335064If he posts a timestamp photo of him holding one of the myriad of guns GB and him have in common within the next 15 minutes I'd concede
any anons going/have gone to Camp Perry this year?
>>65334438>>65334448>>65334471As someone who is bored to death by plastic/aluminum wonder 9s et al, I find the challenge of a tiny wheel gun to be extremely enjoyable. You can definitely tighten up those groups with practice and it won't cost you much more than 9mm since you're only loading 5 at a time and working that DA trigger really makes you focus a lot more. Of course, dry practice at home is always helpful and free.What types of ammunition are you shooting?
>>653350644u
>>65334495>Walking around a trench system in cammo with a red white and blue hat and your head and chest exposed.>Slowly walk around a corner while looking down at your gun and reloading in the low ready>Slowly aquire steel spinners 15 yards away>Have someone record you (while recoding FPV, of course. )>Post it to the intent.Who the fuck is that guy?
>>65334347added
>>65334877You like comfy ergos, the HK brand, and John Wick. You also like a trigger that is worse than a USP even if you throw money at it.
>>65335126>going full larp on the clock is stupid>crouching is disincentivized because it makes it hard for the RO to see your gun and the 180 for the stage is down below the trench line, in front of the shooter forward, biased downrange>reloading because I had just finished engaging five poppers and an IPSC steel at 50 yardslet's see your match footage of clearing a double spinner, retard
>>65335126>too stupid to recognize a 360 stick cam on his backJesus, Anon. Do you fall for AI shit too?
>>65334128Is there a long slide version of the PX4?
>>65335099>ammunition158gr LFP on 4.1grs of 231Originally intended for my lever action but they're not that accurate so I have 500+rds to put through my SmithI carry 125gr Gold Dots
>>65334167I like my goyota
gay
>>65335147I am not a zoomer faggot so I don't record everything I and post it to the internet. >>65335151I was to distracted by how bad he was. I should have known he doesn't have any freinds. But hey hey bout a bunch of gear and that's what the hobby is really about.
>>65335228In what way, specifically, am I bad?The gear was required, it’s a 2-gun match and the division rules require at minimum level three plates and 3L of water in addition to a bunch of other shitPost your match footage if you’re so good, dipshit
>>65335172I honestly can't tell much difference between 158 gr lead and 130 gr jacketed. I would say maybe try 110 gr lead, but>I have 500+rdsYou should probably work through that. On the bright side, you'll probably be a lot better by the time you are don't. I suppose that's a lesson on making test batches before cooking up an entire run.
Let's play Gunbelievable bingoBingo!
>>65335269If you had to recommend one of these guns, which would you pick and why?
>>65335267>lesson on making test batches before cooking up an entire runThat's actually from a few batches, 1800rds+. I shot a bunch through my GP100 too. It's just more difficult to clean than my Smith.
>>65335269now that's gunbelievable
USP chads keep winning
>>65334649Considering the market is currently running on repackaging older concepts to sell to new audiences, I'm betting that DA/SA gets another turn in a few years. The last big release of a new DA/SA pistol that I can remember was the P-07 in 2009, and there are tons of people in the last 17 years who have never touched a DA/SA gun and would eat up the marketing.
>>65335289I read a 9mm USP has 100k round lifespan before you even need to consider replacing any parts
>>65335241You walked around a corner expecting to shoot with an unloaded weapon looking away from where you knew the target would be. I don't have to post shit. Maybe you shouldn't either if you can't take the heat.
>>65334495I’m confused on how you’re supposed to clear those two spinners. What’s the goal?
>>65334128>>USPs are "bombproof">>no one ever says whyusually they mention the heavy steel slide like 99% of other guns aren't the same
USP had issues back in the 90s, firing pins would break after a few shots, IIRC it was fixed in 2005
>>65335344My dad has one of the bad ones, it snapped while I was shooting it. It probably hasn't seen 1000 rounds in the 20 years of ownership.
>>65335171Beretta was on the edge of discontinuing it completely before the compact carry renaissance, so I really doubt they'll make an even bigger one.
>>65334128HK makes the very best firearms. Wish I could afford one. One day...
>>65335333>whyThe recoil spring guide rod is part of the locking system. The more force applied, the harder it is to unlock the slide. That's why you can shoot .45 Super through a bone stock USP 45.
>>65335330Spinner has to be rotated 360 degrees (generally driving the larger bottom plate over the top) That specific presentation was a mandatory 4 and 4 (i.e. one hit on each spinner plate, twice), then shooter could spin one or both spinners for a stage time bonus. In most 2-gun action matches, the RO will call "over" and you can continue with the stage. vidrel is from a much more recent match where the stage was to spin both spinners at 100 yards with rifle, then 80 yards, then 15 yards with pistol, then back out to 100 yards with rifle.>>65335326are you one of those goofballs that watches match footage from people and leaves comments like "you need to use more cover, too exposed"? I was pushing the rules for that stage as-is because reloading was technically supposed to only happen while standing at a specific engagement presentation. >noooooo you have to have eyes front at all times and not look away and commit to the tactical cqb goon larpthe bottom of that trench is filled with exposed roots, spent casings, and rocks, I'm not going to trip, fall, and blow my own head off or get DQ'd for a 180 violation to impress you>I don't have to post shityou're the one talking shit who clearly has zero understanding of how match shooting goes because in two separate posts you've implied that I should be john wicking and eating DQs for breaking the 180 and talking shit about wearing a colored hat and not larping hard enough in a time+bonus match format
>>65335081No, but I wanna go next year. I wanna get some LPA sights and a co.petition barrel fitted to my M9. Plus I want to get a Pardini K12 for air pistol matches.
>>65335393>That specific presentation was a mandatory 4 and 4 (i.e. one hit on each spinner plate, twice), then shooter could spin one or both spinners for a stage time bonus.any penalties for misses?
>>65335330Ridding spinners, they don't stop You van learn more at https://meatspin.com/>>65335126>>65335228>>65335326You sound extremely jealous. Also you're clearly a noshoots nevercomped.
>>65335402almost fell for that
>>65334422I like anons mom.
>>65335279Good lord, man. I hope you get your lead levels tested at your yearly physical.
>>65335397usually 2 gun action match rules don't penalize misses unless you give up the target (outside of the odd paper IPSC which uses normal USPSA A/C/D/M scoring converted to time pen/bonus)at my monthlies and usually the big regional, the penalties are: >forfeited engagement/target not neutralized: +60 sec>missed HVT/clearing shot: +60 sec, sometimes only +10so basically your penalty for missing is that the engagement takes more time and missing on the spinner fucks up both your timing and the spinner's momentum, which will fuck you up badly on certain stages par'ing out on a spinner and stacking like 4-5 "not neutralizeds"
>>65335402>>65335393> Also you're clearly a noshoots nevercomped.And you've clearly never done real.Have fun with your LARP. This is unironically worse than reddit.
>>65335425>And you've clearly never done real.>Have fun with your LARP. This is unironically worse than reddit.have you?
>>65334478In 4 usp.
>>65334491>paid cash so they can't track me.
>>65335438Thats a nice door, whos your door guy
Spain or a Spanish colony will win world cup. Not America, not even Canada. Beretta troon SEETHING!>>65334241What is up with this meme
>>65335439
>>65335425>And you've clearly never done real.lmfao shut up you clowni posted some match footage because it's fun, not to get divebombed by some drama queen 3051 about how imma git kilt in the streetz
>>65334602Just like em.
Guess who's back from PRISON?!?! Those Federales didn't hold me, I am reborn in JESUS CHRIST
>>65335389That doesn't make sense. If that were true then why does HK throw a fit if you don't use a specially approved low backpressure silencer?The only things that are different about a USP locking system is the guide rod can slide on the takedown pin a little which lengthens the dwell time, and it has a secondary coaxial spring which isn't engaged until the slide is about 70% of the way back. What is causing this non-Newtonian unlocking you're describing?
>>65335367That makes sense, I guess.
Why no 10mm USP?
>>65335457Burt get a life. There's more to life than guns. Get a better hobby for crying out loud. Seriously, you could take up cooking, fishing, restoring cars, etc. No one is saying give your guns up and stop shooting em, but there is more to life. Let me ask you, do you think the people here are worthy individuals to receive your advice? Because I think they're bottom of the barrel scum, and i have barrels of evidence to prove it.
>>65334693>>handgun vogue operates on a continuum of>ugh, I want to be comfortable, this gun is too big>This small gun is great! It doesn't shoot awesome, but I can look past that>Wow, these duty-size guns really shoot well, I should carry it>Carrying a duty gun's not bad, I value shooting more than comfortable concealment>ugh, I want to be comfortable...100%. Anything smaller than a compact is an absolute fucking meme.
>>65335333it just doeshttps://youtu.be/1E6IfdUJn6s
>>65335464It ain't broke so don't fix it. Handguns are stagnant tech anyway, they're essentially perfected. They can get a little better slowly, but at this point the contest has been who makes em cheapest
>>65335475Then they should focus on making them look better. Most modern guns are ugly as fuck
>>65334756>Is this really true of any handgun after the USP though? They've been moving away from that aesthetic.nta but no and it's sad.
>>65334824v cool I've never seen someone with one.
>>65335471I'm at stage 1-2 of the continuum and debating dropping my gen 1 shield 9 (neither very comfy to carry nor very nice to shoot) in favor of 1 .380. Currently going between the larger, easier to shoot ruger security 380 and the smaller easier to carry bg 2.0 carry comp. Anyone have any input other than to stop being a bitch?I want to carry a compact 9 but I know any that has a grip that I can get all my fingers on will be too big.
I know there is a sticky but I heard that Smith and Wesson quality has gone downhill, is this true? I'm interested in a revolver for ccw but also back country hiking/camping. I saw the TFBTV video about the new nightguard that is coming out and it looked nice but then I heard that qc from S&W is spotty. Should I just try and find something older? I thought there was a wheelgat general.
>>65335467It's unbelievable really
>>65335511I wouldn't pay any more than $600 for a brand new S&W revolver, because if you get a lemon, you don't have much invested in it. Stay away from any of their performance center revolvers.
>>65335493Holster makes a fuckton of difference, I had a kimber micro 9 that was less comfortable to carry than my P99, partially because longer muzzle keeps it from tipping out, and partially because a fuzzy G-code incog is just a flat-out comfortable holsterWhen in doubt, go bigger but not necessarily heavier
>>65335493I feel like any adult male can carry and shoot a Glock 19 well
>>65335526That star is precisely shaped for perfect timing
>>65335515Could it be 'Gunbelievable?'
>>65335425You're trying way too hard.
>>65335481>Most modern guns are ugly as fuckBot-tier thing to say. First of all, your subjective opinion is not a fact that can be proven. Second, it doesn't matter how they look. No one cares besides gunfag retards. This general has admitted that aesthetics are important, hence they are FAR dumber than most other gunfag retardniggers. Aesthetics don't matter, or do you plan on showing everyone your strap?
>>65335481I agree.
>>65335568>aesthetics are importantI agree anon
>>65335526A $600 Smith is worse than a <$400 Charter, and also Smith is the literal Greatest Satan
>>65335481FN makes good looking handguns, even H&K modern guns are ugly.
>>65335583>I'm a gun nut, anonNo fucking shit, only nuts and glowies here
>>65335538It was already shaped perfectly over 50 years ago.
>>65335530I have tried several over the years and currently a cheap chink kydex holster is the only one that I've found really alight. Bulk is a big issue, since I wear relatively fitted clothes and am on the smaller size. I don't think I'd buy the bg2 without shooting it first bc I really have not found myself to be too good with micro guns but this one seems to have solved a lot of the handling issues like grip length.>>65335531That's getting somewhat wide and long, but I have a very similar sized gun I played with concealing earlier and AIWB was actually not bad.
>>65335597>That's getting somewhat wide and longWhat are you, an Oompa Loompa?
>>65335542Perhaps
>people itt think they have aestheticNo karat gold plated Deagle, no aesthetics. You don't even have a silver plated revolver, and that's to speak nothing of sapphires and emeralds. Where's your platinum plated USP45? Where are your authentic bone grips? You have no aesthetics whatsoever. How many gold plated guns do you even have?
The banter isn't as funny knowing that it's just a couple of Burtsmen and chronic baiters that occupy multiple generals.>>65334946Everything you see in the photo was paid in full at the point of sale.>>65334950But I do have the optic, a 4x32 ACOG just as the Operator's Manual depicts. The mechanical sights on my pistol are also Trijicon manufactured so I am a Glock operator by extension or Gloper8or if you will. >>65335137TYFYS>>65335321Did you read that in HK Pro?
>>65335425>And you've clearly never done real.You are 16 years old at absolute most, grow up dipshit.
>>65335657Hello good fellow, seems you have good taste
>>65335657Bcm sisters.. what have we become? Spending more money on the optic than the gun? Forced to use a bare bones made in USA Glock? We got to cocky
Is the LCP max really a bad option compared to the bodyguard 2.0? I can get the lcp max for 240 and the bodyguard 2.0 for 370 after fees. I'm not sure which one I should go for
>>65335730Sneak your BCM in the thread before mods yell at the rifles.Also, how often do yall dry fire? Do you practice on multiple targets or the same poster from middle school?
>>65335738LCP MAX G2G
>>65335738It's a night and day shopting expirence. You're paying 50% more for a gun three times as good. The LCP trigger is very toilet plunger esk, and the gun flips like crazy in your hands due to not enough undercut and bad grip texture. Call around and find a range that rents both and side by side them. $240 is still a significant ammount of money compared to the average spend, so whats stopping you from dropping an extra $30-40 on a range day to see if you believe the BG 2.0 is worth it.I honestly love this fucker like you wouldn't believe.
>>65335728Didn't know you were a Gloper8or too, COG bro! Always a pleasure>>65335740NTA but remember to use thread locker on your guide rod, pardner. I've read that Gen6 reverted for this reason (vid rel)
>>65335740>>65335749Cute holster
>>65335749did you have any issue with the sights? I've heard that the sights are misaligned straight from the factory
>>65335761Thanks dog, the QVO draw claw is amazing. My shot timer just came in the mail so I'm going to do some draw drills and see how my splits compare to the FN 509c side by side.>>65335762Mine were fine, I think the leftward lean to my groups is just due to it being a tiny gun. I did pick up some nicer irons for it though since the stock sights have a lot of gap between the rear and front irons making the sight picture difficult to perfect at longer ranges where it matters more. Haven't installed them yet though. My BG 2.0 did need to get sent back to smith for a light strike issue that was worse with some ammo brands but that was a quick easy process and they even polished the feed ramp as a bonus. Seems like I have heard less issues as it goes, not sure if smith fixed a manufacturering issue or the employees just got better.
>>65335772What shot timer did you get? I've been meaning to pick one up so I have actual numbers to gauge my progress
>>65335779NTA but Shooter Global Go is great. It has an app to store statistics and more features, super easy to program drill or adjust settings through the app instead of playing with the two buttons on the timer.
>>65335779I got the SG Timer GO with pocket clip, it came reccomended from an anon here and when I researched it further the reviews online backed up that it was a great product. I hear good things about the kestrel but it's also exactly double the price. If you're in the market for one and have $310 to burn that's the one Ben Stoeger and most other instructors seem to prefer for their classes. Otherwise I'll post a write up this weekend when I shoot with it.
>>65335786Damn I bet this is the guy who reccomended the SG Go to me lmao. Anything I should do with it before I take it out to the range with me?
>>65335797No. It’s sensitive to pick up dry fire so you can practice draws at home with it. Just position the mic close to the gun when you dry fire.
>>65335805Sensitive enough* It also can work for indoor shooting ranges by lowering the sensitivity to 25-30%
>>65335657>paid in full>on a card>at 24APR
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>>65335833nta but YWNBAW Pantybin
>>65335444meme? .45 is a stone cold killer, anon
>>65335837>YWNBAWThat's the only correct thing in your post, I am a man and never claimed otherwise.
>>65335888Hi Jeff
>>65335888Why does that say 2013?Why is it so dirty? You don't carry that shit in your wallet do you?
>>65335467I wouldn't normally reply to this, but it's delightfully coincidental that I was JUST musing to myself not 20 minutes ago how fantastic this hobby is. Wondering if other hobbyists enjoy their hobbies as much as I do. Do people really have "love" collecting coins or quilting? They might get a thrill out of climbing, but they're not doing it every day. Other hobbies might be fun, but this one is bliss. I fucking love guns so much it's unreal. I don't WANT another hobbyAlso I like this scum>>65335738>>65335749This is accurate, minus hyperbole. The Max is a good gun, cheapness is a virtue because of the risks we put our carry firearms through. But where the Max feels like a plastic tool, the BG2 feels like a real piece>>65335762This should never be a concern for you with any gun imo. Don't expect sights to be zeroed, because hardly any company does it. Expect to correct sights to YOUR posture and YOUR eyeballs every time, and you will simply be all the more pleased when you don't have to :)In all my years I've only ever considered two to be "off" from the factory, pic related that had a wiggly loose barrel and the Hudson H9 because they frigged up ordering sights from a supplier or something and said frig it ship them out and tell them a 12:00 hold is normal and covering up your target good. Everything else has been easily on paper, which is all they (or most buyers) care about, and almost all have been correctable to a crisp personal zero
>>65334597Conceptually cool, but his execution is way off. He needs to make a seamless transition from frame to comp to maintain the aesthetics.
so are we back to hkfagging? is berettafagging dead?
What other pistols have that cool front scallop cut? The hi power and the og short rail cz75 come to mind.
>>65335945I haven’t bought the 94X yet so basically.
>>65335738theyre both shit, get a glock 42
>>65335945No germs or wops for me thanks.
>>65334563>>65334703I kept my promise, you catamite.
>>65335969Based to actually post against my shitpost
>>65335947I absolutely despise that look so I notice it in other pistols. The firestar m40/m43 series has it, the modern M&P 5" barrel models have it, the Ruger p89 has it, the walther p88 has it, and tanfoglio has a wealth of them in various surplus models. I hate it. I hate you for liking it. I hope you enjoy whichever you choose but why you enjoy it is beyond me. It's disgusting and an aethetic blight.
>>65335903What sight pusher would you reccomend Burt?
>>65335945Not once I get one of those too.
>>65335999The deeper the better I say.
>>65335969v cool.
>>65336003What gun is it for? I got one for glock recently but I haven't used it on other pistols.
>>65336003I've been shilling those ones for years. Long enough that the original manufacturer no longer makes them and you can only find chinese copies. If you search 'sight pusher' and sort by price you can find lots of vendors selling this design. This one's $18 for example not that you should buy from this """person,""" God it's crazy how cheap they are nowhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/397421834078Anyway, a lot of cheap designs are extruded aluminum, they'll bend or strip if you gronk too hard. These kind are very solid but it takes more care and prep than the MGW dovetail style. Protect your finish with tape or cut up plastic
>>65335947Staccatos have it. It makes holstering easier
>>65335275None>if you HAD toUgh fine the AA2000 is actually extremely underrated, it gets a ton of completely undeserved hate, and they're still pretty cheap. Pretty much everything else either has detrimental idiosyncrasies or is outright crap
Oh hell with it I've been shilling these for too long without actually knowing if the chink copies are any good so I'll put my money where my mouth is
Any non-hamplanets here? (Sorry burt) How do you carry when you’re jogging? I’ve been using a G26 on a belt under my shorts and it sucks. I’m thinking of carrying my j frame in a hill people gear snubby fannypack.
