If russia uses NOOOOKS what would be the best way to use them?Firing a single nook seems like a bad idea because it could fail to detonate and get shot down, and wouldn't actually have a massive significant impact militarily speaking. The negative PR and international reaction wouldn't be worth it.NOOKING a major city like kyiv would do a lot of damage and maybe force a surrender but also probably would be too diplomatically damaging.My guess is the best use would be to declare war on ukraine fire 5-10 nukes at major military targets and troop concentrations, preferably having mobilized and trained up a ~100-200k conscripts in the months before hand and then launching a major offensive. But I think the temptation to keep nooking would be too powerful, once you've already fired one you might as well keep using them, why risk your aircraft flying combat missions for a reward of 1 damage to the enemy when they could drop nooks and deal 100.
by accidentally (on purpose) dropping it on Belgorod
>>65336201Hopefully they nuke Berlin because nobody would care enough to counter strike
>>65336207turkey would declare on russia
>>65336201Nukes are fake and gay
>very organic THE BEAR WILL NOOOK threadMore sea tankers and airbase in Engels got blown up if you're wondering
>>65336201>If russia uses NOOOOKS what would be the best way to use them?Trade them to the saudis for gasoline probably.China won't let them use nukes.
>>65336238tf is china gonna do about it?they could cut off support or sanction russia at most
you're laffin but if the situation gets bad enough to threaten him personally (open domestic rioting) he just might do ithe's old and dying anyway, he doesn't care what happens afterwards
>>65336303I can see it happening if ukraine drone strikes end up totally fucking the economy and causing shortages of fuel and food.The obvious move would be to surrender to ukraine but that would result in Putin being killed because ukraine won't accept the type of terms that the loss of 200k or however many russian soldiers its meant to be.So he can't continue the war but can't stop the war either so the only option is to escalate via nooks
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>>65336201>If russia uses NOOOOKS what would be the best way to use them?Nuking moscow and st pidorsburg>no i mean the best use for russiaNuking moscow and st pidorsburg>i mean the best use to improve the future of russiaNuking moscow and st pidorsburg
>>65336323>nuking st pidorsburgThat would be inconvenient for Estonia and Finland.
>>65336331tell them I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but it's for the betterment of mankindI'm sure they'd understand
>>65336331they would be standing outside in sunglasses and shorts, cheering. Every year thereafter "Nuke Day" will be celebrated. Surely people will get radiation poisoning and cancer, but theese are all perennial alcoholics who didn't plan on living forever anyway, you gave them a happy ending.
>>65336331If you told any of them that you're planning to nuke pidorsburg, they would beg you to let them do a button press
>>65336340One could reasonably organize a "Nuke Moscow Day" event, where a ICBM get yearly chucked at the Moscow Crater and people can enjoy the show from a convenient yet safe location, with food stands and re-enactments, and music. Hell, make it a charity for the victims of Moscow, like Ukraine, but also including the rest of Russia, the obscenely impoverished part that got sucked dry by muscovites.
>>65336392it will give them an excuse to stand outside in sunglasses and shorts and get drunk
>>65336395Well yeah, that's the idea. One could get a partnership with the US, who would provide the nukes and treat the event as a test campaign, greatly benefitting from the data, without financially burdening the event organizers. It's a win for everyone if you ask me.
>>65336404I have a better idea, turn it into kind of a competition like how Russia used to run that "Tank Ballet". Invite all the nuclear powers to participate. Points will be give for yield, novel systems of delivery, artistic flourish, mushroom cloud shape, etc.
>>65336274>they could cut off support or sanction russia at mostAre you pretending that such a move wouldn't be absolutely disastrous for Russia?
>Tactical strike on frontline strongpointLeast escalation risks, "testing the waters", has the possibility that the strike itself is insignificant and they gain nothing and still face huge repercussions>Strategic strike on e.g. Lviv logistics hubs/Odessa portsMassively higher escalation + risk of fallout to western countries. Has the advantage that they could actually destroy targets that are previously out of reach. Probably results in significant civilian casualties.>Capitulation strike on Kyiv???From a pure military perspective, a nuclear-tipped Oreshnik or other IRBM offers the most novel capability over what russkies can currently achieve with conventional arms. Nuking the frontline is mostly pointless because of how dispersed the forces are, nuking hard, static logistics targets they can't reliably attack with Iskanders or cruise missiles/drones brings more value. What happens afterwards is anyone's guess, nukes aren't an "I win" button unless the zigs are willing to expend tens of warheads and nobody pushes back.
>>65336410>"Tank Ballet"Wasn't it called Tank Biathlon? They were running around and shooting, so it makes sense as a name. I think that was a cool competition, must have been fun to partecipate in too.
>>65336438Yep, you got it, thanks anon I had a brain fart trying to remember it
Since this thread is retarded I'm going to ask an equally retarded question. Nuclear tomahawk thru the door. Iranians have a bunker we blew the hatch off of, and they in their infinite benevolence managed to clear the debris. Alright say we got a BGM-109G and a target worthy of using it, it's 1000 feet underground in the rock. Tomahawk goes in the tube, detonates, clears the entire mountain, kills everyone/everything inside. All of the electronics are fucked, some Iranian daycare is hit, the whole nine caboodles. Who gives a shit? Does Russia/China lodge a complaint? It's obviously a legitimate military target.
>>65336446They will take it as carte blanche to do the same and use whataboutism as their arguments
>>65336450it's a bit different using a nuke against a fortified underground target with minimal backlash versus using one on a populated civilian center
>>65336323>Nuking moscow and st pidorsburgDo you feel that Trump should bring back something like the W53 warhead? The B61 is kind of weak so to totally destroy Moscow so it could never come back you would have to use to use more than one. Probably three or more.Pic is W-53 / Titan warhead at 3.8km.https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=9000&lat=55.751667&lng=37.617778&hob_psi=20&hob_ft=12418&fallout_wind=17&ff=50&fallout_angle=358&zm=10
>>65336446Any country using a nuke and not getting SEVERELY punished for it will lead to instant mass proliferation of nukes as every country that doesn't already have nukes will do the risk versus reward calculus and come up with a very strong case in favor of nukes as a deterrence.The currently non-nuclear countries will see the risk of nukes used against them go up by a lot and the risk of international condemnation or sanctions go down by a lot and act accordingly, also knowing that every other non-nuclear country is doing the same. This is the main reason China will absolutely not tolerate Russia using nukes.
>>65336489I think it would be hypocritical considering the Chinese have doubled their stockpile, they are obviously considering using them. The USA has between 600 and 800 of them in the water right now ready to rain hell on America's enemies if called upon. Huge difference between hitting an underground tunnel system and hitting a city, and we got plenty loaded up for cities while so do they.
>>65336503There is not any difference, no.What you've done is legitimize nukes as a battlefield weapon. The arsenal expansion of anyone else is totally irrelevant and I dont see why you bring it up. Do you not understand the implications involved ed at all?
>>65336513They've always been legitimized, the entire cold war was spent expecting the other side to launch on us. We had Davy Crocketts and Tomahawk land attack missiles with nukes on them. Tanks all come with NBC protection for a reason. Using one underground to hit an enemy's stores of nuclear material they promised to use on you and your allies shouldn't be that big of a deal.
>>65336306>Putin goes live, announces that they surrender to the Ukies and he hopes they will be gentle with ruskiesThen immediately shoots himself on live tv. How would this play out?
>>65336545best case he gets replaced by another dude who says nah we aint surrenderingworst case there's a power struggle/semi civil war and then the winner says the same thing
>>65336532>They've always been legitimizedNo they haven't, you retard. How closely were your parents related? Name the times a nuclear weapon was dropped on an enemy target post Nagasaki.
>>65336545>How would this play out?Like any other broadcast of Swan Lake.
>>65336550The cold war was a cold war. We'd discussed dropping it in Korea, in Vietnam, Nixon threatened to use nukes against the USSR if they didn't stop fighting with the Chinese. Dropping a nuke down an Iranian tunnel isn't going to cause a retaliatory strike by a nuclear armed nation. It's going to destroy an underground bunker and a bunch of refined uranium.
>>65336547>Random Russian warlords with ICBMs and tanks>Selling ICBM, $25m USD only
>>65336404You are letting me imagine a world where I could bet money on polymarket with which nuclear power would win this year's "No Russia Nuke Day" and I am beyond grief that it is but a fantasy
>>65336454>>65336585That's not the point. It drastically lowers the threshold for use in the future by all nuclear powers
>>65336503>I think it would be hypocritical considering the Chinese have doubled their stockpile,Well duh, they're a nuclear country so they're the better sort than the nukeless plebes. Also saying "Chinese" and "hypocritical" in one sentence is a bit redundant.
>>65336201>If russia uses NOOOOKS what would be the best way to use them?On Moscow.
>>65336274Start muscling into siberia with armed forces and annexationWhat is pozzia going to do about it?>inb4 nook ook...again!Chinks have more then enough to glass muscovia in retaliation. They ain't going to risk shit for ass ends like vladivostok or sakhalin. Only thing they can do is bitch about it
>>65336489Yes and that is why chinks are banning monke from chimping out completely. They don't want nuclear proliferation in taiwan, korea and japan when westerners ultimately weasel out from retaliating eye for an eye against monkeperium
>>65336207As a german i wouldn't be against that shithole being glasses. But I assume most of russias NOOKS is corroded to fuck at this point.
>>65336672glassed*I deserve this for phone-posting.
>>65336672Berlin is basically Seattle except all the AntiFa are 90
