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In hindsight, it wasn't that bad. I'd rather be in the first wave and take my chances against couple of machineguns and mausers instead of going against modern drones. I say the media has blown it completely out of proportions
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Idk man you just had to be there to get it
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>>65338082
>In hindsight, it wasn't that bad
it was such a slaughter the first two, maybe three waves I forget, were wiped out. The captain of a destroyer was watching and knew it was going to fail if they did not take out the pill boxes on the cliffs, so he ordered his ship to sail danger close to the shore and open up with all guns to destroy the pill boxes, which gave the soldiers who landed after a chance to get up the cliffs/beach to make the landing successful. If you were in the first two waves you dieded.
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>>65338082
By US standards it was bad as not even the ACW had US troops just straight shoved into a meat grinder the way they were in Normandy.
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>>65338082
It varied wildly. There was one company on the right flank of Omaha that landed, got halfway across the beach, and then got wiped out. Over half the men were killed in seconds. Meanwhile, at Utah, there were relatively few casualties, even when part of the first wave got dumped onto the wrong beach.
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>>65338504
Utah, in general, WAS the wrong beach. All waves ended up landing off target, iirc. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. was in the first wave at Utah (the only general officer in the first wave at all, who was hobbling around the beach in the first wave of D-day with a fucking cane), which proved quite fortunate, since he recognized almost immediately that the unintended landing site was superior to the planned one. He started making calls and coordinated the entire landing force to shift over, rather than splitting it between two locations.
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In hindsight, it wasn't that bad. I'd rather be in the first wave and take my chances against couple of bows and trebuchets instead of going against modern drones. I say history books have blown it completely out of proportion.
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>>65338082
In foresight they didn't have modern drone hell to compare it to so their entire scope made it more terrifying to them.
Same-Same
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uh oh stinky
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>>65338446
>not even the ACW had US troops just straight shoved into a meat grinder
*Lols in Battle of the Crater
Lmaos in Pickett's Charge*
>the way they were in Normandy
There was a massive deception plan, bombardment plan, and Sherman DDs, what more do you want? Until maybe 1991, the June 6 landings had more support allocated than any other battle in human history.
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ampelasproject.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/52572259/First%20Wave%20in%20Omaha%20Beach.pdf

>Most of those who jump into shallow water are quickly knocked down by a bullet. Weakened by fear and shock, they cannot rise again and drown in a few feet of water.
>Within seven minutes after the ramps drop, Able Company is inert and leaderless. At Boat No. 2 Lieutenant Tidrick takes a bullet through the throat as he jumps into the water.
>Along the beach only one Able Company officer still lives, Lt. Elijah Nance. He is hit in the heel as he quits his boat and hit again in the belly as he reaches the sand. By the end of ten minutes every sergeant is either dead or wounded.
>To the right of where Tidrick's boat is adrift, its coxswain lying dead next to the
shell-shattered wheel, the seventh craft noses toward the beach. It carries a medical section of one officer and sixteen men. The ramp is dropped. In that moment, two machine guns concentrate their fire on the opening. Not a man is given time to jump; all aboard are cut down where they stand.
>By the end of half an hour, approximately two thirds of the company is gone forever.
>Only one other Baker Company boat tries to come straight in to the beach. Somehow the boat founders. Somehow all of its people—one British coxswain and about thirty American infantrymen—are killed.
Idk man sounds pretty fucking horrific to me
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>>65338082

Don't forget mortar and artillery, and those "machine guns" were mostly MG42 with a 1200 round a minute firing rate. The biggest problem with places like Omaha beach is the tanks never made it ashore. So you have soft skinned infantry trying to assault fortified positions. The Canadians on Juno suffered half the amount of casualties because their tanks did make it ashore and could assault the bunkers.
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>>65338082
Drones are great against isolated targets and small groups.

Today meat waves of that proportion would be answered with tungsten rain, which is even more terrifying.



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