Welp goddamnit another one. People are losing their shit and we had stray bllet scares at another one and lead shut down an indoor range and it's just getting NUTS for ranges.Is it even preventable? Happened in your area? Also webms and such related.
https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2026/07/fatal-shooting-at-central-ny-gun-club-troopers-initially-consider-wound-self-inflicted.htmlforgot
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32343169/There's this but it's useless "well sometimes it happens and boy we ought to talk about it" the paper.$30m grant, pls unnerstan.
some typical magazine news show handwringing...https://www.wsmv.com/2025/05/01/suicides-gun-ranges-nationwide-devastate-families-staff/
I think the literally most recent? It's RI and if I lived there I'd be pissed too.https://eastbayri.com/stories/tragedy-as-man-takes-his-life-at-tiverton-gun-shop%2c134439/
>>65350827it's always the fucking indoor ranges isn't it
>>65350881I have never even seen an outdoor range that has rental firearms.
>>65350890I've seen event days where they draw new members by renting .22s, but not as any regular thing.The topic is what it is but still, the MANY fucking problems ranges face now! Lead shit returns pages of results lately when you search the news, it's like the secret dagger for indoor ranges.Not to mention over all cost is just UP. I fucking got back into 1:32 scale slot car racing because you can do something fun for an hour for $10.If anyone has that recent self double tap, I need to save that one. The instructor was right there too.
>>65350827we really need at least a psychiatric analysis to own a gun
>>65350827Any place where access to guns is available will inevitably draw people who wish to do nefarious things with them, including suicide. It's the focus on these places that is suspect. You're going to find biased media hit pieces that are only intended to chip away at gun rights. It's the same type of vilifying propaganda that once upon a time successfully lead to the prohibition of alcohol nationwide.
>>65350827>Another one.We've seen this before, you ignorant piece of shit. The fucking video is timestamped a decade ago.
>>65350921That's just gun prohibition with extra steps, but you know that. This is a stealth gun control thread.
>>65350827Why do you type like an ESL?
>>65350921And if they fail we euthanize them.Anyone incapable of practicing the Bill of Rights should not be a citizen.
>>65350828>disable my ad blockerFuck off with that shit. Make yourself useful op and post story in thread.
>>65350828>>65350827>less than 10 deaths nationwide every year in a country of 325 million>wtf ban them nowfucking retard. more people die in auto accidents yearly on race tracks renting cars and motorcycles
>>65350936Why do you ask questions you already know the answers to?>>65350827Fuck off, grabber.
>>65350827Not even entirely gun related, but what the fuck is up with the entire concept of self harm and suicide? Like nigga just go do what makes you happy if you're upset. Get a new job, move, whatever man.
>>65350976Ive had an idea for an organization that involves teaching suicidal people UXO removal techniques. They can spend the rest of their life contributing to the world and others by removing hazards until they have an accident and get what they have longed for. Or they can just purposely fail on their first try and get it as well. Either way results in the UXO not harming someone else.
>>65350976>do what makes you happyWhat if there is nothing to make them happy?
>>65350990Find what makes you happy then. This is not rocket science.
>>65350993>like nigga just go drink water if you're thirsty>go find some water then. This is not rocket science
>>65350976Assuming this isn't bait, the problem is that for those people, nothing brings lasting joy anymore. Getting a new job ends up being a different flavor of dealing with some malicious moron having authority over you in a dead-end entry-level position. Moving costs a significant amount of money, as does finding a new place to live.Simply put, the quality of life has been on a steady decline since the 2008 housing crisis as necessities become more expensive, distracting luxuries become cheaper, inflation outpacing wages, the middle class vanishes, goods and services become shittier due to planned obsolescence & being built to harvest your data, etc.I almost don't blame them; there's not a lot to be hopeful for unless you're already set for life.
>>65351002>outpaces*I am not ESL, I just didn't fix that part after tweaking the format of my post.
>>65350976Suicide isn't a question of being happy like that, man. It's not an equation of "i haven't had fun in four days so my happy meter is empty time to kms", it's the result of a state where the prospect of no longer being seems better than any alternative. If that's something so utterly alien to you that you can't comprehend it then I'm glad for you, but for a lot of people life is too much, at least in the moment. When the future looks to be such a horrid experience that not experiencing at all is an enviable alternative, people punch their own ticket.
>>65350921>triple taps store clerk for no reason>then immediately puts one through his own skullWtf am I even looking at here?
>>65350988Based “do it faggot” program
>>65350990how do you know nothing will make you happy when you haven't even maxed out all your credit cards to hike across mongolia yet? all these bitches who an hero themselves haven't even attempted 1% of the things that might possibly make them happy yet.
>>65350921
>>65351052that clerk fucked his wife
>>65350921Pajeet behind the counter didn't deserve that
>>65350881Indoor ranges are for urban normies and niggers, the former of which commit sepuku at astronomical rates.
>>65351022Dubs of truth. It is a means to have one moment of control in a world where nothing can be controlled or even leveraged in ones favor.
>>65351126street shitter should have stayed in his own country then
>>65351052>no reasona reason is not needed to clean up indian filth
>>65351097>yup, thats me
>>65351253>yup, thats mehe came in with the shooter, the were close and hugged just to the right before going out of view. Guy had two drinks, one for him one for the shooter, but he obviously looks stunned.
>>65351367Damn the finns are niggers
>>65350827>>>/pol/ >>>/b/ get this garbage off a sfw board what the FUCK happened to 4chan
>>65351371Lol pussy
>>65350921Did he shot himself in the head twice? At 0:34 and 0:36
>>65350827My personal favorite
>wanna own a gun>live in euro so laws are kinda meh. not impossible but it's just time consuming and have to spend money>finally decide to bite the bullet after a few visits at the range>get sacked the day afterfucking hell
>>65351369It's like half gypsies shooting each other up and the other half is drunks blowing their drinking buddies away with a shotgunThe average person is almost completely isolated from gun violence
The real problem is every little bullshit thing, suicide, enviroment, noise, sets off some fucking libshit.I'm almost thinking put in AI cameras and if it looks like you're about to point the gun at your face, a little boxed claymore goes off and pellets your legs so you have worse issues to deal with while you're tackled.But people get so fucking sensitive when you solve shit with explosives.
>>65350976As others have noted, depression isn't merely unhappiness in the moment, it's a mental illness where nothing can and will ever make the person suffering it happy. They're just constantly depressed with little energy or will. Imagine living like that day after day. Suicidal ideation is on top of that and could be likened to the draw of the One Ring in that it's always there and grows stronger with time.
>>65351074>just go through a great deal of effort and put yourself in debt and make your future prospects even worse to do something that doesn't even sound appealing to you right now on the hopes that your entire life will just 180 and suddenly the happy juices will start flowing because you did something "different" it's great that you don't understand this so hard, but giving that advice to someone who's suicidally depressed is about as useful (and feels about as good to hear) as telling a paraplegic to just stand up and do a backflip if he's sad about his legs not working.
>>65351658Seems ranges can't do much about it.You can screen somewhat but then new members feel second class.Maybe smart guns? You're not "depending on it" in the moment after all. It's not yours so the mechanics are on the range. Sit a guy at a desk full of "off buttons". Maybe. I'd be concerned about those instructors Desu.Laws and shit aren't going to work as the never seem to.I still think mini claymore to the legs has charm though.
the simple fact is that there are many people who don't have the mental capacity to safely handle/own firearms
>>65351673In Australia and shit they chain the guns into a firing position so they can't be pointed anywhere but downrange. You still have to hold them up and aim to hit the target since there's some slack to it, but you literally can't go more than ten, fifteen degrees off center.They did this exactly because of this issue.
Being suicidal or depressed is just pure selfishness. You are not receiving the attention you so desire. The world must revolve around you and specifically make you happy. Some people wake up and look like they have shit themselves, while others who have various illnesses wake up happy and try to do good for the people around them. Don't be a piece of shit and try do something good for somebody other than yourself.
>>65351690"I can't wait to go to the Cenobite Pistol Club!"GRIMStill gonna be able to get your head in front of it. I don't thing physical restraints will do it. I think those retarded Smart Guns MIGHT do it. Deactivate when not pointing in a 40 degree forward cone so the whole front of the range is still open to hit or miss.Of course sci fi doesn't always work out in reality either.
>>65351770"Don't worry, you can only fi... BLAM"Is one issue. Retard confidence.Or you could Nork it and make you sign up a blood relative for a $100k bond to insure your membership.
What if the range WAS the social support? Change it so like the vibe is an american style diaspora culture club; my town has an irish, uke, tyrolean (austro-italians), and indian "home" or center where families join and there are dinners and a bar and shit. I go to the uke club like if my car fucks up or job fires you or life is shit, another member down at the bar on thursdays probably has a job or knows someone. Just add a gun range to it, it's great for everyone.
>>65350921No way, anon! Next you tell me its possible that nations have 20% of the US private gun ownership, but only 0.01% of the fatal shootings!
>>65350921>Clean up, aisle 2
>>65351684FAT
My LGS has rentals and a lady went in four years ago, signed the paperwork for the rental (on which she indicated she was not mentally ill) and went onto the range and killed herself. Naturally her family made a huge deal about it and attempted to sue the range (guess the family color) but no lawyer would take the case because the deceased basically lied on the paperwork before splattering her brains on the wall
Mods hardly exist anymore and they let the botspam of off topic bullshit continue because /k/ would only get 30 posts a day without it.
>>65350921No I love seeing americans getting shot
>>65350921>9mm
>>65351367The total homicide rate of Finland was 0.9 per 100 000 in 2025 so that graph is simply a made up fake. Probably made by some butthurt Russian after Finland joined Nato. https://yle.fi/a/74-20178903
>>65350940Based. They also need to own land to vote. Go back to tradition. Make them have skin in the game.
>>65351000Even below room temp sub Saharan Africans can find water in the desert and somehow survive and thrive.
>>65351845It probably includes suicides
>>65350921Fuck off, we need subhuman control not gun control
>>65351684Somehow I can tell just by looking at him that this nigga doesn’t wipe his ass…
>>65351541damn. did the instructor get hit?
>>65351138Don’t forget Indians pointing guns at people too. Indoor ranges are never worth it, lead poisoning sucks.
>>65350921Only Nazis would want to make it harder for normal people to get gunsSounds anti 2ANo Psych analysis by some marxist monkey from one of those liberal ivy league colleges is gonna prevent shootings from occurringIt takes armed and vigilant citizens with a duty to defend themselves, other people and their countryWhat if you had to take a psych evaluation to buy booze? Plenty of drunk assholes kill others on the road and/or beat their wivesOr to smoke weed?Its just ludicrous
>>65351854Suicide is not homicide.
>>65351371Stfu pussy. Get back to work, drone.
>>65351371Shut up NERD
>>65351541Being fat is unhealthy.
>>65350940?Would you like to know more?
>>65351721Was there an eclipse I missed? Shit.
>>65351684looks like a bersa .380>those have decockers and safetyhow the fuck this fat shit manage this?
>>65351887this but unironically
>>65351849You know what? Even if it was a symbolic square foot of forest preserve, you should have to own and pay like 3 cents tax, JUST to go through the motions. You could make the "land price" $20.But not, even that retard minimum can't happen. But even that would help.
>>65351853we must respect the digits
>>65351882Lane dividing walls could be deeper on both sides, that's one possible thing.
>>65351887Dude it's not for possession though. It's a rental, if Rent-a-Center says no channel 15 or no warranty, you don't get it while renting.
>>65351721>you have no feasible way of altering your life's trajectory and would rather cease living than continue down its current course? well how is mister nosenberg going to feel if he has to let the neighbors see him driving last year's lexus because he couldn't continue exploiting you? did you ever think about that, you selfish prick!?
>>65350921>Turns to look at the other guy before shooting himself in the headGotta make sure homeboy is properly traumatized.
>>65351721>you're miserable and hate living? have you considered being useful to other people for nothing in return, you selfish piece of shit?
>>65351690austistralia is a massive retarded orwellian nanny state so it isnt to be expected
>>65351887>Only Nazis would want to make it harder for normal people to get gunsBoomer lolberts are so fucking retarded. Nazis loosened the gun laws for the vast majority of German citizens. It was the Marxist regimes like the USSR which banned or severely restricted private gun ownership.
>>65350890there are a fewhttps://www.bluetrailrange.com/
>>65351690How do you even do that? I'm trying to envision the universal mount they have
>>65352034I don't respect any such nonsense what-so-ever.
>>65352502That's because they're entirely fixated on the Nazi disarmament of jews and gypsies (and other subversive elements).German citizens actually enjoyed less restrictions
>>65352043That's actually worth considering, but getting a gun in the first place doesn't require anything like that, so it'd be a little weird to require it for a convenient sample. It locks the convenience behind an arcane restriction that applies nowhere else. You could probably get more done by requiring noguns to schedule in advance.
>>65351690In Cuckstralia you can have your firearms license suspended over allegations made by your "friend" who is politically opposed to gun ownership and shooting even when you've been cleared by doctors for gun ownership lolhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Ausguns/comments/1uc0zlj/firearms_licence_suspension/
>>65352575These people are so fucking stupid. At the time of the founding of the USA the founding fathers explicitly stated that only white free men could vote and immigration to the USA was only limited to whites. Several of the original 13 states had laws banning blacks free or slaves, or natives from owning firearms for obvious reasons limiting it to white citizens only.Meanwhile Marxist regimes prohibited all personal and private gun ownership for every regular citizen equally except for the vanguard and party elites.
>>65352644>>65352575An example:>Virginia: Passed early laws disarming enslaved people; by 1723, statutes explicitly stated "no negro, mulatto, or indian whatsoever" could possess a gun.>: The Negro Act of 1740 made it illegal for both enslaved and free Black people to keep or carry gunsPerhaps these bans should've stayed in place and mass repatriation occured so Jamals and Tyrones wouldn't inflate the homicide overall or gun related so massively in America
>>65350921Fuck off niggerSHALL
>>65352644Thank you for confirming both that:a. The Founding Fathers did believe that gun control is Constitutional.b. All gun control is inherently racist and class based.
>>65351721You dont understand depression.
>>65352673>banning niggers and muslims (and not letting them into a first world nation in the first place) or troonie autistic schizos who should be in an asylum from guns is a bad thingCzech, Polish, Finnish, Slovakian, Slovenia and Swiss gun owners all laugh at you retards.
>>65350827What does this 10 year old video have to do with it?>>65351371Kill yourself, bitch.
>>65351721Stefan Molyneux's video on abuse, parental mistakes, and other things leads to a section about hopelessness.He says, "Most people think help for someone who sees no way out is to repeat all the normal things, "You'll be fine, stick your chest out, pull yourself up by your bootstrap. They are telling someone who has already tried all those things, and it's nothing more than pouring water on a drowning man."I'm paraphrasing, going from memory, but the meaning is the same.I havent seen that video in nearly 15 years and that part stuck with me.If you won't actually take the time and effort to care, say nothing.Don't pour water on a drowning man.
>>65350921>we really need at least a psychiatric analysis to own a gunwhy? all the crazy people will die within weeks of their first gun
>>65352673Nah, they just rightly believed nonWhites were not people.
>>65350993Kill yourself retard
>>65351668if you are unhappy enough to kill yourself then why would you care about debt? if you find something that makes you not suicidal anymore then it would be worth it, and if you don't then you were going to kill yourself anyway so it doesn't matter. the point is that if you kill yourself because you're unhappy but haven't tried doing new things that might make you happy, you aren't actually killing yourself because you're unhappy, your survival instinct has malfunctioned and happiness is just an excuse.
>>65352794Anon, being bedrot depressed isn't about being happy or unhappy. It's about being mentally unwell. When I was suffering from anhedonia (look up the definition) doing things that formerlly made me happy, like hanging out with friends, playing in my band, making a good meal, or going to the shooting range just made me frustrated and even more "unhappy;" (in the sense that you're describing) because I wasn't getting any pleasure whatsoever out of it. Kept having the recurring thought that if this is how life is just going to be now, then I didn't even want to wake up. And this went on for years.It's a rough spot to be in.
>>65352757>Don't pour water on a drowning man.Why?
>>65352927I think its an inelegant way of saying you're not helping. Generally if someone is gasping for air it's not good to waterboard them.
>>65352757>Don't pour water on a drowning man.This is the same kind of babying that leads to not putting gas on a man on fire. You just need to toughen up.
>>65350827>Is it even preventable? I've seen ranges that won't rent you a gun unless you bring one of your own or have another person with you. This probably just prevents the range from getting sued, to be honest.>Happened in your area?Yep, one of the RSOs at my range told me the story. Guy at the range turns in his lane and hands the RSO his cell phone. RSO looks at it and sees that its a video call with a suicide hotline. RSO manages to grab the guy before he offs himself. Probably more of a cry for help than a real attempt.
>>65352757>"Most people think help for someone who sees no way out is to repeat all the normal things, "You'll be fine, stick your chest out, pull yourself up by your bootstrap. They are telling someone who has already tried all those things, and it's nothing more than pouring water on a drowning man."they aren't trying to help, they're saying don't make your problem my problem.
>>65350827Easy, just stick to private, member-only ranges
>>65352673based FF mogging slaves
>>65352818>isn't about being happy or unhappyyes that's the point. someone who is drowning will do anything to get air. someone who is mortally lacking joy would be expected to do whatever it takes to get it., but depressed people don't act like that so it clearly has nothing to do with happiness.
>>65353058Yes. Not sure what point you're trying to make or if you're agreeing. I could be hanging out with my friends shooting fireworks off on the 4th of July and still feel shitty. No big drastic measures like in a movie make you go, aha now I'm having fun so now my brain won't malfunction anymore.
>>65351882>saar ve hindus from india are to be utilizing the vertical foregrip vith the 9mm rifle, ve are more skilled in the qvickscoping than bloody vhite benchods
>>65351684What a fucking slob
>>65351097>Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here.
>>65352604You're looking for what credibly makes the difference, and it's like racing at a jeep dirt track. Yeah you pay for the hour of racing or whatever with their cars but they have a sign of the rules that exist for fucktards.It's sampling auto-sport but you could go buy a shit jeep and abuse it (no you can't holy fuck the market on any jeep like YJ or CJ is FUCK ME)
>>65351541For some reason I remember both of them living
>>65350976Someone committing suicide from depression is not very different than a person who commits suicide to escape a burning building. You can tell them help is coming, eventually the fire will be stopped. But they know it wont. The fire is pushing them closer to the window. They will do anything to escape the pain of burning.
>>65353606"The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling."
>>65353682>herself
>>65353701>xerxelf
>>65353419There's a difference between signing off on a form for a vehicle worth tens of thousands, and submitting to a psych eval when you just want to rent a $200 pistol for a half-hour. I wouldn't submit to a psych eval for a thousand bucks, let alone a half-hour with the prettiest gun on earth.
>>65353710>werwulf
>>65350976You'll understand when you're older.
>>65350988Just make a kamikaze branch of the military and give them gliders packed with explosives.
>>65350921>guy in the splash zone held the door for the hambeast and she preferred to open the door herself. Comical.
>>65352961> water on a drowning manSay nothing, hell say "I wish i could help"Don't slap a person across the face with indifference or tell them any of the things they've already said to themselves.
>>65350976I think it ties to personality disorders and brain chemical imbalance, the thing piloting the flesh suit is one of the scariest dangers to us because when the shit that wires us gets weird it can get crazy real quick. I think my dad's made like 5 suicide attempts in my life but they've been sporadic. The most traumatizing for me was when I was about 23 and had to physically restrain him from getting a gun to kill himself after he had been acting insane all day. He had been using Everclear to extract the chemicals of marijuana and dosing himself with it for some time for pain relief. Supposedly the medical professionals determined he just dumped all of his serotonin from his body which directly causes suicidal tendencies. He was released and fine after 2 days until his next two attempts a couple years later, after which he was again normal after 2 days in both cases. I think people have to realize that their brain will lie to them and unusual erratic behaviors can be fixed in short time if they have the self-reflective capacity to realize something fucky is up.
"My friend here loves guns in amine, do you think he would enjoy a range trip?"https://youtu.be/7lX24RKQQM4?si=-D5T_p8e9hFUAdZY
>>65354138>he had been using Everclear to extract the chemicals of marijuana
How is the number of VODA students an hero-ing at a pistol range 0?
>>65354958You could. It's not the easiest or cheapest or even common. It's what a retard might do. He deffo don't have the gear.
>>65351126Actually he did. They all do. They're here initially through a fake visa based on lying, scamming, and stealing. They run convenience stores and motels though race based 0% interest SBA loans. No white American is ever given a free fucking business by the federal government, but jeets are. The jeets then use them as visa scam mills to bring in more jeets who pay kickbacks to the owner and are essentially indenturedservants who work everyday. This has systemically gutted Americans if millions of jobs and lowered wages and working standards for all Americans. Each jeet then chain migrates their entire fucking family for infinity more jeets - forever - the chain literally never ends. We don't need them. These used to be jobs for Americans without college degrees. You used to be able to converse with the people at 7/11. The prices used to be fair and rung up accurately. Your credit card info didn't use to get stolen when making small purchases at a convenience store. We didn't live with such subpar standards.
