>The first combat use of T-72B3A tanks with the Arena-M active protection system, modernized to counter FPV drones, ended unsuccessfully.>On video ЦCП «Oмeгa» footage of the hit to the rear of the T-72B3A tank – the anti-aircraft gun didn't work. How column of tanks (10 units) was hit near the settlement of Mayak, 48.41418, 37.31780, Donetsk Oblast. >There are no details yet about why the APS failed or how many tanks were equipped with it, but it's clear that the attempt at a massive deployment of Russian armored vehicles was unsuccessful.Weren't APS and EW supposed to make tanks the king of battlefield again?
>>65359714the air defense cuckolds don't strike again
>>65359714not even Israeli trophy is 100% effective against drones and the jews actually know what they're doing. did russia really think they would be able to make their own version?
>>65359714Was this part of the failed Russian mechanized push that got slaughtered before they got into contact with the Ukrainians?
>>65359714>drawing a conclusion from russians failing to do somethingTheir regular APS never worked either, this is a dumb argument.
>>65359744probably
>>65359728>did russia really think they would be able to make their own version?No. But whats important is potential customers/propaganda outlets THINK it works
>>65359744>column>mechanized unit>pushIt's 10 tanks. Barely a platoon. Is this what the Russian "second wave" looks like?
small indie tank industry please understand
armor is dead. vehicles should do what soldiers have done. abandon all armor and just put on a camouflage suit.
>>65359815Don't be so mean. They spent a year building enough tanks for that massive assault.
>>65359753>they're still trying mechanized zerg rushesI thought this retardation was over years ago
>biggest Russian armored push in years>10 tanksfucking lol, lmao even. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.They really have lost 12,000+ tanks, haven't they? I'd wondered if perhaps the claimed stats were hyperbole on the part of the Ukrainians but I'm starting to suspect it's true.
>>65359984>Putin publicly claimed that City 17 has been taken >Officers at the front know this isn't true, but don't wish to push that up the chsin of command >Frontline units get told to mass enough metal and men to do a "shock and awe" strike against Ukrainians >It goes exactly as observers predicted>Cycle will repeat until Putin's version of reality is manifested into existence
>>65359753So... how many tanks?
>the wildberries in simferopol and tver just got hitUPDATE THE CHART
>>65359815>>65359980Russia is also rationing fuel for its military vehicles. They receive like 20 liters per day.
>>65360018Total count for that particular day was 28 tanks. I think the number being given for that particular assault was around a dozen or more
>>65360024Silly khokhols hit a fireworks stand))
>>65360029that's a big fireworks stand
>>65360034i bet she's ecstatic
>>65360038>Actually doing the soipoint meme
>>65360051Her mouth wasn't agape with soulless eyes
>>65360051>soipointgo outside
>>65360055>Only basement dwellers know what a meme is!It's not 2005 anymore dude. :V
>>65360051She's one of us.
>>65360038is she going to get gulag'd?
APS has to be on.
>>65359728>jews actually know what they're doingthat is all american tech, designed and paid for. jews cant build anything themselves
>>6535981528 tanks were destroyed that day and more than a dozen IFVs/APCs on top of it
>>65360026Isn’t that like 5% of their remaining stock? Jesus.
>>65360253As of early-mid June? That singular loss of tanks would be 1.3% of the remaining tanks that are in storage. However, Russia lost around 105 tanks in the month of June while July is currently at 125 tanks (including the count of 28 tanks on July 23). So so far, Russia lost roughly 11% of the last known count of stored tanks within the last 2 months.
>>65360274>775 T-62s>1/3rd the remaining armored forceSomeone is going to be gold plating his lobster rolls if he isn't already....
>>65360004>You have chosen or have been chosen to assault City 17.
>>65359714>Weren't APS and EW supposed to make tanks the king of battlefield again?May we see a video and not just a sandnigger tier still image hiding the effect of the strike?
>>65360213uh huhhttps://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/1gtpf90/why_is_there_no_domestically_produced_american/
>>65360274Somehow I’m doubting that massive hidden tank fleet Jompy keeps screeching about is real.
>>65360327>unironically citing redditAnyway, Israeli weapon development is heavily aided by America both in technical knowledge and funding. Iron Dome is the most well known example.
aren't tanks supposed to symbiotically move with infantry so the infantry can use the tank as mobile cover and the tank can use the infantry as screening for anything smaller than another tank? we've seen endless footage of infantry shooting down drones, you'd think they'd send them to travel with tanks for this express purpose>if they don't hit the drone and it blows up the tank they're all deadthey're all gonna be dead anyway since the strategy seems to be ww2 meatgrinder tactics
>>65360302Note that those are unfurbished, stored tanks that are decades old and most likely econonomically unfeasible to fix up and not active duty tanks. >>65360332It never was. Jompy, for whatever fucking reason, refuses to believe that Russia is losing just as many tanks on the frontlines that they are currently producing on a monthly basis. Despite there being plenty of evidence that Russia's currenty active tank fleet is barely able to maintain its current numbers. He's also claiming that SOME of the refurbished tanks are being put in storage now, but has so far refused to release satellite imagery that back his claim. Though if Russia is actually putting refurbished tanks back into storage, than its more than likely a temporary thing and not a permanent one like he believes
>>65360349>Note that those are unfurbished, stored tanks that are decades old and most likely econonomically unfeasible to fix up and not active duty tanks.They would have to be taken apart bit by bit and remanufactured but since it wouldn't be Russia doing it anyway the economics might work out, especially if Russia had no other option. If they were modernized by being made Norky there would be so much work being done (engine and transmission would be replaced probably as well as the gun) that all that would be left would be the basic hull and turret shell.
>>65360332He isn't so much screeching as pointing out that there are between 2k and 3.6k tanks not accounted for. Unless you take the Ukrainian MoD number as gospel, which I think is overly optimistic.Well OK maybe he is screeching, but he is on xitter, that is pretty normal there I think.However: That number is pretty much the on-paper, pre-war tank fleet Russia had. I suspect that they just refurbed them and put them in the (now empty) garages where they used to keep the majority of their more modern tanks. most of these places have metal roofs, so not even SAR can take a look.I also suspect that they keep the refurbed T-72B hulls in storage so they can make 'new' T-90Ms by building turrets.
>>65360348Everything is supposed to symbiotically move with everything else in combined arms operations.
This isn't like my Broken Arrow
>>65360348>we've seen endless footage of infantry shooting down dronesWe've seen many multiples as much of infantry getting blown apart by drones
>>65360503>
>>653600242 in petersbergs as well.
>>65360152I'd gulag her every day, calls to putin, anal inspections, torture rape etc. Some days she'd break free and retaliate ofc...
>>65360213Just like Americans can't make their own tank guns and had to beg Krauts for them. Stop being a retard.
>>65360024The Wildberries facility in St. Petersburg has completely burned down apparently. Also:>FP-5 Flamingo missile struck the Russia’s Avitek defense plant in Kirov>Avitek produces components for air-defense systems, missiles (KH-101 and KH-59M2/M2A) and ejection seats for Russian combat aircraft.Fucking finally dude
>>65360702>no more pilot is fine posts from fighterbomber:(
>>65359714I guess irl doesn't have peakers advantage. Shit.
Not gonna start a thread for this but Russians tried armoured breakthrough at Dobropilia and lost nine tanks, two BMPs and three Grads and some more ended up damaged.
>>65361246>three Gradshow far up did they move them? they should be miles behind the front
>>65361246GRAD GRAD GRAD
>>65361246Why the uptick in armored pushes the last couple of weeks? I can't think of anything that has meaningfully changed.
>>65360702>ejection seatsAt least those pilots will die 2 inches taller.
>>65361313
>>65361253>they should be miles behind the fronthaha drone goes bzzz
>>65361326His monkeness has ordered that Festung Donbabwe must fall by Autumn
>>65361313i gotchu senpaihttps://youtu.be/fTFxE32onKs
>>65360349>>65360411There's also the very good possibility that a large number of those "missing" tanks were so thoroughly ratfucked that several hulls went into refurbing one tank and the empty shells either got sent to salvage or stacked up in a warehouse.
>>65361360Really? I thought he ordered it to fall by last year's cuck parade, and then by last fall, and then by last winter, and then by spring. So will he just issue a new order that it has to fall by spring 2027 when nothing changes?
>>65361326No idea honestly.
>>6536033790% of American military tech is shared with Israel, the other 10% they steal and US willingly turns a blind eye.
>>65361326>plans to attack nato get exposed>shift stockpile of tanks reserved for said attack to frontlines
>>65361326Probably testing their new APS.
>>65360513yes, but between tanks and infantry, infantry has the higher killcount against drones to my knowledgedrones are more dangerous to tanks than they are to infantry, because at least the guys can all run in different directions to minimize the damage, whereas tanks can only split up into many different directions when they explode
>>65361430There's that plus the fact that not every refurbished tank hull gets turned into a tank. They're also turning them into things like TOS launchers and armored recovery vehicles as well.
>>65359714I dont think that is arena-M. it is too different.Probably a decoy to increase the tanker morale.
>>65361791Functional tanks tend to require numerous FPV hits to disable and then destroy, especially if they have cope sheds which do help against drones even if they make the tank worthless for anything besides being a ghetto APC that baits FPVs. This is compared to infantry moving in the open that generally don't survive 1 FPV, let alone 2. Unfortunately, even surviving 20 FPVs in a tank still means that you just die because there are a lot more than 20 FPVs available per tank (and artillery is available should the FPVs be inadequate), so the extra survivability is moot given the circumstances.
>>65361931So.. this is it. The flowery end of armored assault era.
>>65360348If a drone spots infantry moving with a tank, they'll just call some artillery to force the infantry to disperse, then the drones move in and pick off one by one, it's a impossible tactical dillema.
>>65359815>10 tanks>PlatoonWhat did he mean by this
>>65361326Might be trying to force a breakthrough somewhere now that the economic damage is becoming obvious. IF Russia could get some momentum going then they'd get some leverage in the conflict/'peace talks' and might be able to get Ukraine to stop shwacking their shit. Obviously Ukraine's position hasn't been weakened very much, if at all, so that would basically just amount to desperately flailing against their defensive lines but it isn't like Russia's military has much else to do. They can do nothing and get shit on or they can fight and still get shit on but (maybe, hopefully) get something done.
>>65360026>>65360253>>65360274>>65360248So a single armored battalion is all they can muster these days then? I guess I'm jaded from all the previous fuck ups, and I bet this was a serious effort, but lmao.
>>65359815>Barely a platoonA platoon is 3-4 tanks. A company is ~14. So this is closer to a company or, more likely, just three platoons.
>>65359714were any of those franken-tanks seen recently? they were popular some time ago and supposedly successful at least in wasting a couple more fpv for disabling themi assume they had plenty of time to make more if they were any good?
>>65361649>it came to me in a dream
>>65361326It could be that this is their final chance to use them before they run out of enough fuel to reliably get this much armour assaulting at once again.
>>65363666I'll trust you on this one, satan
>>65360152They made her make a public apologyWhat preceded that and what followed is up to a discussion. I wish for the best, but we're talking Russia here unfortunately
>>65361246wbms?
>>65362118Isn't Trump sending his envoys to Puccia once again? It might be just posturing to impress these retards.>>65364186Ask and you shall recieve. Inb4 reddit. Yeah, I know, but it's easier than to skim through Telegram channels.https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1v5e7k9/dobropillia_sector_russian_forces_attempted_a/
>>65364218>>65364230Your response que glitched saar.
>>65364260Yes, my wi-fi had some weird lag and when I refreshed the site this happened. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>65360152already was
HE'S TOO SLOW
>>65364275I will assume this to be true unless proven otherwise rather than demand a posting of hands. Carry on.
>>65364281>SLOWHe's edging.
>>65364299If you assumption really was that I'm a Pajeet than I'll have to disappoint you.
>>65359714>There are no details yet about why the APS failedRussian radars don't fucking workhttps://defence-blog.com/leak-exposes-radar-failures-in-indias-mig-29k-fighters/between these and the numerous air defence cuckolding incidents, this must be obvious by now
>>65364559Da cumrag. I too, am of demoralize.
>>65364559>We destroyed some vehicles>SEE! THEY'RE ASKING FOR MONEY!Huh?
>>65364559I think they're giving the world a pretty fair trade. Infinite amount of ziggers suffering for some spare change and rusty cold war surplus that would've been otherwise be thrown in the garbage is not bad at all
>>65364557No problem my giant thumb kindred.
>>65360038
>>65364559Yes, I am Hans Hitlerovich and of confirming this, we must stop supplying Ookraine and instead give our armaments to the mighty poccnr.
>>65364767It’s a fucking fantastic deal.
>>65361360Which autumn tho
>>65364912Just remember karma is a bitch
INDEPENDENT THOUGHT ALERT
>>65365761do they not care about their own safety anymore? why would they allow themselves be filmed saying these?
>>65365805>safetytheir workplace just got obliterated
>>65365817>panic detected
>>65365817
>>65365836so I wouldn't get droned but the drones still found me
So whats stopping someone from making multiple orders of very flammable stuff, waiting for it to arrive at one of the warehouses and then calling in the strike?
>>65365867It would need to be a seller buying it, not a purchaser. Sellers stock warehouses, warehouses move product to purchasers.
>>65364798is that fred durst
>>65365860They don't think it be like it is...
>>65365752>Just remember karma is a bitchWhich is what ziggers are discovering, slowly and painfully.
>>65365752eliminating ziggers is positive karma, I consulted the akashic records
>>65366020>In 2015, Durst stated his interest in obtaining a Russian passport and spending half of the year in Crimea.[59] On October 8, 2015, the Russian newspaper Izvestia reported that Durst responded positively to Sergey Aksyonov's call to settle in Crimea. He wrote a letter stating that Vladimir Putin is "a great guy with clear moral principles and a nice person."[60][61] Additionally, at a concert during the 'Money Sucks Tour' in Voronezh, Russia, he picked up a flag thrown on stage with an anti-Ukrainian slogan on it. Because of these controversies, he was banned by the Security Service of Ukraine from entering Ukraine for five years starting in November 2015 "in the interests of guaranteeing the security" of the country.[62][63] In an official statement, Durst denied reports of asking to acquire Russian citizenship.[64]>In November 2025, a Limp Bizkit concert in Tallinn set for May 2026 was canceled due to Durst's Russia comments.[65] Estonian Minister of Foreign Affairs Margus Tsahkna stated that those supportive of Russia, especially following the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, had "no place on Estonian stages." The show's organizer pointed out the band performs in pro-Ukrainian countries and that Durst never spoke in favor of the invasion, while his previous comments were presumably due to "living in a distorted information bubble" at the time.I mean...it could be?
>>65366640>living in a distorted information bubble>i apologize sir i was a fucking retard and fell for basic bitch state russian propaganda at the timeAt least he admits it.
>>65366640Some do it all for the banan, some the nookie
>>65366640
>>65366687>>65366677>>65366640at least he didnt go full retard like those "trad" idiots that move there
>>65366698>Leo is a devout Christian who had become increasingly disillusioned with everything from political division in the US, to genetically modified food and what he sees as the rise of the LGBTQ movement.>At the time, he believed Russia offered an attractive alternative: a society built on Christian faith and family values – a view heavily promoted by the Russian state.>But over time he has also become increasingly concerned about elements such as restrictions on access to information.>Within weeks of arriving, Leo says they were defrauded of 5 million roubles – about £52,000 ($66,000) – by a contact they trusted, leaving them homeless.>When I spoke to Leo earlier this year, he was living separately from his wife in the city of Ivanovo, and his older children had returned to the United States.I wish more of these retards moved to russia
>>65366704Why are American Christians so fucking schizo? There is little difference between a yankee fundie and a muzzie fundie.
>>65366697this faggot has such a unlikable face
>>65366704>see gay pride parade>upend your life and move to russiai don't understand why some people are so triggered by some rainbows and femboys
>>65366704>granted asylumKek, what the fuck was the reason for alysum?
>>65366713*Asylum, ignore my little stroke right there
>>65366704I'm glad his kids escaped at least, surprised the authorities let them leave.>>65366711It's the fake forced laugh he does. Say what you will about Charlie Kirk but he had proper debating etiquette.
>>65366704>what /pol/ does to a nigga
>>65366697>>65366720>that boomer stare after they hit you with most inane facebook conspiracy
>>65366713>Many of the would-be migrants are attracted by Russia's Shared Values visa, sometimes called the "anti-woke" visa
>>65366720>Say what you will about Charlie Kirk but he had proper debating etiquetteThats probably why Israel had him killed. People like Tucker are just lolcows
>>65366704>society built on Christian faith and family valuesThis is what I don't understand. Do these people just forget that it was an atheist, communist state not that long ago? What fucking traditional Christian values do they think Russia has?
>>65366765Dunno, does the whole WH40k larp count?
>>65366711I've never been a bully, but a lot of the big names in conservative media open their mouths and I am immediately filled with an irrepressible urge to give the speaker a swirly. I don't get it.
>>65360038I genuinely dont know how i would react in a situation like this, during the whole iraq&afghanistan fiasco my mentality whenever one of our soldiers died as someone who was opposed to it was along the lines of "that sucks, but they volunteered to go in this adventure with the americans and they knew the risk"but in a situation like this, where my country just goes head first into a woodchipper just for some oligarch ego BUT at the same time its my city that gets (rightfully) bombed back i have no idea if i would be able to be ok with it even knowing that its my country's fault for it.
>>65366727>commie terrorist kills man they have many times expressed their distate for because he's intruding in their spaces directly and effectively>deflect blame to le joos israel
>>65366791Yeah, its pretty much the perfect crime
>>65365805things can only get so shit before you stop caring altogether
>>65359714https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoUnrjYQkwits up
>>65366765They think Russia went back to being a Christian nation just because they changed their flag in 1991.
>>65366697
>>65359714>T-72B3A>king of battlefieldOnly if the other side has no tanks and no rpgs
>>65365761the interviewer is such a zigger holy shit lmaoalso rip to the first guy, hes getting forcefully conscripted for sure
>>65361931It doesn't matter how many FPVs it takes to actually destroy them if one is enough to break up an attack or make the crew bail out.
>>65365761>no specific terms will satisfy either countryDumb serf, just leave ukraine and ukraine is satisfied.
>>65365805Guy looks like he doesn't care anymore, if life was shit before the war even began its not looking any better now.
>>65366020
>>65372489Feels like he understands that, but this is the closest he can get to saying that before he's forced by glowniggers to make a phone call to Putin
>>65366712They got a boner obviously and they know russia is the world capital of homorape.
>>65372489He is kinda right though. You have 2 stances that can't meet in the middle here.>Get tf out of our country and leave us alone>Surrender and become our puppet again
>>65366710Same reason the vast majority of burgers are simple minded and way, wwaaaayy too trusting of alien mentalities >two fuck off humongous oceans pysically separating them from eurasia Especially when it comes to these asiatic tyrannies like pozzia or mainland changstan.
>>65366765All westerners were tripping each other white washing and forgetting pidor union the second it imploded. Pretending pozzia is born anew and totally reformed. Let's not act like it was something unique to that tard
>>65366697Why does he dislike Ukraine?
>>65372940money
>>65372956and ideological retardedness in believieng in russian saviour rhetoric
>>65372999>that one video where he visits a russian supermarket in moscow and holds up a loaf of bread and says "DIS WILL RADICALIZE YOU"still not exactly sure what he was going for with that propaganda angle. what, that russia has "modernized" by gaining a fucking supermarket in its capital?
>>65366710Because they’ve been on the receiving end of a political strategy designed to make a fundie state of retards for decades.
>>65373029Did you know russia has BREAD and TIGERS?!
>>65373280to be fair, russia and most countries, have better bread than america because too many people here want cheap prices and long shelf life resulting in bread being heavily processed. i didn't think it was a problem until a legit bakery opened near me and I've never bought bread elsewhere since
>>65373029It was more about the prices inside of the supermarket, but it was obvious to everyone that TC was paid by the Russians to be there
>>65373029Living in Moscow is absolutely dirt cheap if you already have wealth in American dollars, so they show off their .50 cent loaves of bread or whatever to try to make Americans seethe about inflation while conveniently leaving out that many Russians are only making four figure salaries and the standard of living outside of Moscow or Petersburg is abysmal.
>>65375023>Living in Moscow is absolutely dirt cheapWas.We can now make Russians seethe about inflation while paying the same or lower prices with vastly higher salaries and no need to pay black market scalpers.
>>65373029
>>65373029wasn't it a french grocery store?
>>65375683Kek
>>65375051>>65375023I have literally compared grocery store prices with some of my friends from russia, many commin grocery store items in russia were costing twice as much as they did where i live in the netherlands.Note that the netherlands is notorious for having relatively expensive groceries for western europe, and a shithole like russia where they don’t even make a tenth of what we do per month is having to pay twice as much money for groceries.Sadly didn’t write anything down, so i must admit i don’t have any hard evidence to show you right now, but i doubt it’s gotten much better in the year since we did that.