What is the bridge equivalent of eternal flight, eternal suspension?
>>65361717Anon, that bridge look small? can they just drive around it while the river is dry?
>>65361717This post has convinced me that the Iran war is going amazing for the United States, and that the pool is finally open.>>65361725What happens when it's not?
>>65361733>What happens when it's not?They can build pontoon.
>>65361742I eagerly await Pontooooner 2.0
>>65361725Not transporting vital supplies and parts, no. Bridges exist for a reason.
>>65361765So, nobody bought it since youre still spamming it here?
>>65361752Then can they simply using other way to bandar abbas? The us wont have eyes on that port 24/7 so simply sneak in while They're distracted.
>>65361793>funnel your entire logistics network into a single choke point>while currently subjected to enemy airstrikes at all hoursWhat could possibly go wrong?
>>65361806Then gamble on the premise that US dont have enough ordinance to kill all of their supply vehicle.
>>65361787which was the thread where they went on the spiel about the plates?I found it funny but i apparently forgot to save it properly
>>65361717>we didn't need water management>we didn't need Assad>we didn't need Hamas>we didn't need Hezbollah>we didn't need our Ayatollah>we didn't need our senior leadership>we didn't need a navy>we didn't need air defense>we didn't need enrichment facilities>we didn't need portsYou are here>we didn't need our bridges>we didn't need control of the strait>we didn't need oil exports>we didn't need allies>we didn't need desalination plants>we didn't need humanitarian aid
>>65361793>They won't have eyes on that portOh my poor naive thirdie.
>>65361717Can you put this on a map so we can see why or if its important
>>65361816Blowing up trucks doesn't require anything complicated and doesn't require a 100% success rate to stop traffic.
>>65361742>shitskins can buildno they can't lmaothey can't even feed their own troops
>>65361862Bandar Abbas is crucial to Iran's war effort.
>>65361806There are many pathways to bandar abbas.
>>65361821At what point on that list does the pool open?
>>65361881Oh silly anon, it never closed (unless you're Iran).
>>65361870Cool, but why and how? A map or some context would be nice. My biggest issue with trying to follow this conflict is both sides do the same thirdie shit of showing something broken, going "phaaaaoooor look at this wect/iran finished!" and that's the end of it. No result, no why it matters, just spammed drivel.
>>65361884But why no us ship sail here?
>>65361891Just google a map next time. Bandar Abbas is the city right next to the choke point. If they lose control of this, they lose control of the choke point.
>>65361894There's plenty sailing there anon, what do you mean?
these threads are so botted it's impossible to have an intelligent conversation about warfarethe internet is dead
>>65361881Has Iran tried to challenge the blockade yet? It might help their economy. >>65361884Mashallah>>65361891It's a port city in a naval war, fill in the rest>>65361894>But why no us ship sail here?You can just park ships out of missile range and still blockade. Can you show us on the livemap of Hormuz Strait maritime traffic where Iranian vessels are enforcing a blockade? https://www.marinetraffic.org/HORMUZ-STRAIT/ship-traffic-tracker
>>65361911I havent seen any US warship sailing thru the strait. Care to prove me wrong?
>>65361914Irgc and israeli shills have really skull fucked my interest in this global economy fucking venture. It doesnt need to be like this but sand people gonna sand people (both are sand people)
>>65361821>we didn't need our bases across the GulfYou are here>we didn't need the straits>we didn't need the global economy>we didn't need to pay under $10/ga at the pump>>65361884So how come we aren't seeing 90+ tankers and freighters passing the strait daily? Oh yeah, it's because the pool is closed.
>>65361925>israeli shillsGuess who enable this behaviour?
>>65361901>if they lose control of thisRemind me, anon, how many times has airpower alone managed to take and hold ground throughout history?>>65361911May we see it?>>65361922>muh blockadeSo when is it gonna open the pool? Because it sure looks Iran can do this a hell of a lot longer than anyone else. Comes with not giving in being an existential issue for them.
>>65361924https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/31/business/us-military-guides-strait-of-hormuz.htmlHappy to help, my shitbrown muzzdog friend <3
>>65361926Al-Quds status?
>>65361929>IRGC shillsGuess who enables their behavior? Don't even start with the whole one way poor arab sand people :( boo hoo shit, they aint saints either.
>>65361939Nononono, /pol/zisters, our response?
>>65361942Mitzvah B'peh status?
>>65361939wait a minute, it is during the 30 day peace isnt it?
>>65361937The entirely of mainland Japan was and is controlled with the dropping of two (2) bombs, anon. Don't be silly. But anyways, you're moving the goalposts because you're a subhuman zutted muzzie. If the bridges are destroyed, how is Iran going to get its weapons from its factories to the city where it conducts its launches?Oh....Right....
>>65361971>If the bridges are destroyed, how is Iran going to get its weapons from its factories to the city where it conducts its launches?Knowing Iranians, they'll fill a bunch of school kids with spray-foam and lash them together into pontoon bridges
>>65361971they should be still sitting on stockpile of missile in their bunker.
>>65361959>zignogs have had to pivot to iran fudd to cope with banan losses>this, too, they will losehehe
>>653619395/31/26 is not current
>>65361986>can't enforce your blockade nearly 6 months after the start of a conflictcope
>>65361818Like every /gq/ threadAlso five people bought the plates
>>65361926What country are you in where gas is $10?
>>65361937>For themFor the remains of their government. Not the Iranian people.
>>65362006Magats really cope like this huh? I thought we were supposed to be blockading things, why are no ships getting through? And if we aren't and iran is, why are no ships getting thru?
>>65361818This one I thinkhttps://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65356518/#65356594
>>65362006are you retarded? the iranians don't need to stop every ship, they just need to effectively disrupt shipping from passing through with any consistancy or regularity, which they've done.
>>65361926Even in my deep blue shithole gas never got close to $10. It was shitty because my state has shitty policies (highest prices in the union thanks gov hairdoo) but you're clearly a foreign shill.Holden Bloodfeast strike these fools down with your sacrifice.
>>65362090>WeThirdie-chan...
>>65362093>https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65356518/#65356594yup, thanks.
>>65362094They can't stop the USN or any ship it escorts, making it a problem of countries unwilling to pay for American protection. It's not our oil. Yet. ;)
>>65361939>Before the war, an estimated 100 to 150 ships crossed through the Strait of Hormuz each day.>U.S. Central Command has helped around 70 commercial ships pass through the strait in the last three weeks, an official said.
>>65362094>>65362081There are no american magats, as you both lack the reading comprehension of a native english speaker, or even someone who just lurks here frequently. The post is pretty adamant that we haven't gotten "there" yet.
>>65362100>They can't stop the USN or any ship it escorts, making it a problem of countries unwilling to pay for American protection. It's not our oil. Yet. ;)the USN is not capable of escorting enough traffic to match pre-war volumes. only convoy movement would even be feasible for any sort of demand at all, and if I have to explain why that's not workable then there's no point in further discussion.face it - the Iranian anti-ship program has done exactly what it was intended to do.>>65362109a relative handful of ships passing through on occasion is not anything of note at all. traffic needs to be consistent and large volume (or so sufficently large volume that inconsisently is irrelevant) for the Iranian strategy to be ineffective, which it isn't.
>>65362117>the USN is not capable of escorting enough traffic to match pre-war volumes. only convoy movement would even be feasible for any sort of demand at all, and if I have to explain why that's not workable then there's no point in further discussion.the only real big workable solution I can think of is mobilizing more ships to provide essentially a complete blanket of protection over the area but that's heinously expensive.
>>65362109Are you trying to claim magachads are the ones whining about Trump? Weird cope but ok.>>65362117Destroy their own economy to spite a country that doesn't get its oil via Hormuz?
>>65362122>>65362117>heinously expensive.Not to mention even if iran's weapons are chinkshit they only need to get lucky once to get a hell of a win by sinking a destroyer
>>65362117>Relative handful>Iran's peak efforts barely reduced traffic by half and now it's being bypassed.Forgot to laugh at this, have a second (You)>>65362122Replying to yourself more because even your /pig/ger friends are scared to come here with you?
>>65362127>can't even follow a reply threadgrim dude
>>65362127>Destroy their own economy to spite a country that doesn't get its oil via Hormuz?yes? The Iranians will do this. The IRGC has been full in on it's martyrdom cult for decades. they are 100% willing to starve out all the world that does get its oil via hormuz and die in the doing just to spite the USA. I'm glad you understand this.
>>65362132Snap back to reality
>>65362134>Replying to yourself more because even your /pig/ger friends are scared to come here with you?i just forgot to put it in with the main post.>>65362132i wouldn't rate the Iranians chances of that highly but it's still something the navy needs to be deploying to ensure doesn't happen.
>>65362139Yeah but imagine that with american casualties, risk is always there if low. Shit aint perfect.
>>65362136Your post was retarded enough without trying to say it wasn't as retarded as some of your other posts, little commie. How did it feel watching your friends get terrorism sentences?
>>65362143Fair, most of the attacks right now look to be suicide dronings that can be hidden somewhere until launch
>>65362150
>>65362090So you admit US ships have sailed through the strait? >>65361939>>65362094>>65362094>are you retarded? the iranians don't need to stop every ship, they just need to effectively disrupt shipping from passing through with any consistancy or regularity, which they've done.Not what we were discussing, my seething friend. Your friends were claiming the pool was closed, then got BTFO by >>65361939 showing US ships have sailed through the strait. Now you're moving the goalposts to pre-war levels of shipping volume. Cope.
>>65362236Is the navy going to escort every ship there throigh the strait daily, all 100 of them?
>>65361925It's not even shills at this point it's just bots, the flooding happens too fast and with too much material for a human to type out and complete captchas. It's consistently the same low quality, high bait garbage posting style that kicks into action like a switch was activated, strawmanning and whatabouting and childish insults and /pol/ meme images pour in at speeds only AI can manage
>>65362236>Your friends were claiming the pool was closed,he's not my friend. i was commenting on my perception of your comment going beyond 'USN travels through and escorts some vessels through the straight with them', which is objectively true and the person you were talking to earlier is wrong about, to 'the iranian strategy is ineffectual', which it isn't. if that isn't what you meant I concede immediately.
>>65362288Depends on your perspective, really. Politically, it's not ineffectual, because it creates pressure on the US and its leadership to sue for peace before major supply chain disruptions impact our allies - except our leadership don't seem to care about allies all that much.Militarily, it's the nation-state equivalent of having a tantrum, since every munition wasted on a cargo ship (or school of fish) is one less they can use against the USN. Every Iranian aggression against merchant shipping works against their goals by incentivizing the use of alternative routes and procurement while steeling the resolve of victim nations to eventually respond to Iran's provocations on their own or as a coalition.
>>65362265Second that, I really want to see an amerimutt ground invasion of Iran together with the entirety of NATO. It would be absolutely hilarious because I know very well how incompetent and poorly equipped the armed forces of my country (Sweden) really are. Its very much like Russia here. Everything is a facade. Some brutal slogging in the iranian badlands would do our army good by weeding out the incompetent and the shittalking of which there is no shortage of. You americans complain about your army but you havent seen real rot yet.
>>65362330Unfortunately for Iran, their munitions are basically only useful for this sort of economic punishment because a bunch of shitty ballistic missiles and cheap drones aren't useful against a carrier strike group. Ideally, Iran wouldn't have to use their weapons because the mere threat of them would deter hostilities, but because Trump has called their bluff they basically have no choice but to use them if they don't want to become free game for the US and Israel. Yes, it fucks them over in the long term because the rest of the world will take steps to make sure this never happens again, but if they won't pull the trigger over this then those weapons have accomplished nothing and might as well not exist.
>>65361937>Not selling oil isn't an existential crisis for a nation that depends entirely on oilInteresting thought
>>65362342They would give a tiny detachment of Europeans some small unimportant area to police badly while the USA and Israel do everything else.
>>65362653How many troops did Israel deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan? Versus how many troops from Europe?
>>65362658surely our greatest ally has provided us many troops in fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan and Saddam in Iraq?Right??
>>65362658>>65362870You aren't this stupid.
>>65361717Kek. US, the master of precision bombing and tactical strikes is reduced to Zigger-tier terror bombing tactics against civilian targets. Great way to bolster your international standing. It turns out, the US is not the world's police. More like hood thug.
>>65361971>Wars gone so badly zoglings are gloating over destroying a handful of easily bypassable bridges near the coast.>Pools still closedThis would be so much funnier if my tax money wasn't paying for it.
>>65361869who built the bridge?
>>65361971They can just launch from somewhere else, the drones they use to deny>>65361976 shipping have more than enough range to cover the entire strait at its widest point and then some
>>65363150Trillion dollar budget that apparently still isn't enough btw
>>65361821>we didn't need control of the straitgonna be here for a while when all the bridges are destroyed in 2 weeks
>>65362081Usa
>>65363500>Doesn't actually respond to the post>Just tries to dodge and change subjectNot the most confident look, mate
>>65363535Sorry Abdul, it was $4.10 at the pump yesterday. Back to your fantasy-land!
>>65363540How do you want me to respond to the post retard? WOW WOW WOW BASED BASED AMERICA IS WINNING AM YISRAEL CHAI
>>65363540I think you made him mad
>>65363406Just one more trillion bro, I just need one more trillion, I promise, one more trillion and the middle east will be ours
>3 to 5 bussiness days+5000€ in concreteLol
>>65363624Why are there men standing in the middle of the tracks in front of an oncoming train, and why does one of them have comically short legs? Could it perhaps have something to do with the unusual camera pan, and the people who don't seem to cast shadows?
>>65361752Now when I us jus a lad, we'd had no way 'cross the river buy Waybridge, way the fuck up north. And it's nice there. And I'm tired o' paddlin this fuck all raft ferry.So I build this here Knightsbridge.Come time for improvement we call it Kingsbridge.Now one chap come along and fix'd er up after a flood, then we called it Merthin's Bridge. On account his name's Merthin.Been so long none of the stone is original. Jes call er Old Bridge lately.Thas how we done it.
>>65361926Dear homosexual rape toy,Putting a tiny hole in a parade ground or burning a canvas tent and a shit barrel are not "destroying the base". You didn't do enough damage to it's HP.
Shouldn't the US be saving some munitions for the Pacific?
>>65363544I think it's like $6 in Alaska and up to $6.70 in Hawaii.
>>65363690I guessed and was wrong lol, subtract another dollar.$10/gallon for jet fuel maybe.
>>65363624>rebuiltis this the same kind of "rebuilt" as the Kerch bridge where it's technically functional but can't take the same weight or speed over it anymore?
>A congressional report revealed that the U.S. military lost or damaged at least 42 aircraft during the conflict with IranMutts getting HEEMED
>>65362653>They would give a tiny detachment of Europeans some small unimportant area to police badly while the USA and Israel do everything else.Impossible. There are not enough US troops available. Europe has a larger population than America and can literally conscript millions of poorly equipped low quality soldiers. Exactly what you need for rear area security and manning dugouts along the frontline.
>>65363150>Kek. US, the master of precision bombing and tactical strikes is reduced to Zigger-tier terror bombing tactics against civilian targets.? Thats US SOP since forever and no indication of desperation.
>>65363698Nonsense, they rolled an AI-generated train over it
Day 1>we're going to topple the entire Iranian government and destroy the IRGCDay 10>we're going to stop the Iranian ballistic and nuclear programsDay 30>we're going to force the Ormuz blockadeNow :>look saaar, we blew up bridges saaar, that means we're winnig saaar !The absolute state of migger shills.
>All this seething over a bridge
Is it worth spending millions of dollars to blow up some bridge that can be rebuilt in a week?
>This is a warcrime>We didn't need the bridge anyways>We can rebuild it>America wasted 6 gorillion dollars>What about Israel
>>65362171>no denialWas it harder or easier than when you watched that dyke get shot in the neck and bleed out?
The new cope is "it was just the one bridge and the other airstrikes aren't real"
>>65363853Don't forget "Sure you bombed us, but did you know that bomb cost MONEY?!?!"
Zisters..... I don't feel so good.
>>65363853No, the new cope is laughing at America bombing who gives a fuck bridges in the middle who gives a shit Iran while Iran dismantles American presense in the Middle East in response.
>>65364383>while Iran dismantles American presense in the Middle East in response.Cool, cool, when will we see the impact on US sorties over Iran?
>>65364383How will you deal with the king of drones?
>>65364261Worth note the zutt-mutts are really seething over that lamoSpeaking of mutts, we really shouldn't be allowing "military cargo between Russia & Iran" while we're in the middle of our own little war with Iran.Unfortunately the current admin is filled with turd-wurldists who prefer adoring Putin over protecting American soldiers.
>>65364261Iran really doesn't know shit about shit, do they? This wouldn't end well.
>>65364401lol the massive reduction in the number of sorties isn't a big enough indicator of these strike's effectiveness? Or the fact that the largest base in the Middle East is now empty of planes?>>65364409How will Iran's massive arsenal of indigenously designed and produced ballistic missiles and drones get hampered by a handful of shipments from Russia getting disrupted?
>>65364419So Iran will get flamingo raped?
>>65364419>a handful of shipments from Russia getting disruptedThe Iranains have stockpiles, but new production still relies on precursor chemicals and materials from outside the country. Mainly from China. Those ships are likely "Russian" only in name.And there is a reason why they are saber rattling over that in response, as they can't afford the Caspian to be a no-go zone like the Black Sea and Azov are now.
>>65364433And how exactly will a handful of Tomahawk knockoffs do anything to a country with super hardened military facilities that's been under sustained fire from a superpower for 5 months?>>65364438Caspian sea blockade so that means they can't get chemicals from China?They also already have a huge stockpile so they could last far longer than the SPR can last. Long protracted wars of attrition are kinda Iran's thing.
>>65364466>Caspian sea blockade so that means they can't get chemicals from China?Not as easily as they can right now, or prior-to-right-now, anyway.Or are you planning to pull a "acktually we don't need unmolested sea-born traffic"? If so, go for it champ.>they could last far longer than the SPR can lastAny indirection imposed by Ukraine has nothing to do with the USA's SPR. You do know that, right?
>>65364419>lol the massive reduction in the number of sorties isn't a big enough indicator of these strike's effectiveness?I hadn't noticed since we've been getting fresh kino of Iranian materiel and infrastructure getting turned into forbidden fesenjan for the past week, when will we see the loss of these bases impact US sorties? Two more weeks?>>65364466>super hardened military facilities May we see them? Shahid Ali Mohammadi Nuclear Facility status?>Long protracted wars of attrition are kinda Iran's thing.The Iran Iraq war was a disaster for Iran, actual Iranians wouldn't be bragging about one of the darkest periods in recent Persian history. picrel
>>65364401>Cool, cool, when will we see the impact on US sorties over Iran?You are already seeing it as USAF is flying B-1s and B-52s on Iran missions from the United Kangdom. Its like 5-6 hours, one way, to the missile launch area, then back again.
Iran wants to stick it out, rejecting any additional calls for ceasefires. So we'll see whose stocks get exhausted/destroyed first. Iran can keep landing singular hits, but nothing will change unless they're able to start downing US ships and aircraft. The US needs to keep cutting off Iranian infrastructure and keep killing any equipment they try to unbury.
>>65364577Wow, strategic bombers are being flown at long range. Shocking. Fucking newfag thirdies I swear
>>65364501>picrelObvious bullshit you cant make a road with soggy corpses, lime and a foot of desert sand. The marsh itself has a soft bottom and putting any weight on these corpses will crush them.
>>65364383So this is the video they're running with to make a point? I've already seen it across multiple threads. Knocking out one building while the others around it are standing.
>>65364592>Wow, strategic bombers are being flown at long range. Shocking. Fucking newfag thirdies I swearYeah they are flown at long range instead from air bases in the gulf states 300 km from the iranian borders. That means far fewer daily missions and also far far more flight hours on the airframes. It also means far more flight hours on the tankers needed to support their long range missions. Do you get it now?
>>65364487I beg of you to look at a map and figure out the best route for Chinese chemicals. Hint: it's not the Caspian sea.>>65364501>I hadn't noticed since we've been getting fresh kino of Iranian materielMay we see it?'>loss of these bases impact US sorties?Already has? Launching sorties at a fraction of the initial attack.>May we see them?Failed to knock out even a single Iranian missile city award.
>>65364577>>65364603I am demoralized.
>>65364603It does mean longer missions for crews, but it's still been sustainable. It's better to have the slight increase in air frame fatigue through longer flight hours compared to the risk of having your aircraft get caught on the ground. Iran's missiles improved, some get through, defenses stop others. But those missiles and drones are the only viable weapons Iran has. The US can keep launching strikes out of return fire range.
>>65364631Demoralized? I'm fuckin excited dude. The latest Sand War being fought for Jews ending up such a stupendous and embarrassing failure means that my country may FINALLY get the fuck out of the Middle East and leave Israel to its well deserved fate.
>>65364603Both of those bombers can launch from Europe and hit Iran without refueling.
>>65364383>We didn't need to transport goods to and from Bandar Abbas anyway
>>65364684>Bombers still have to spend more time per sortie>The actual amount of targets that can be hit and engaged as a result is going to be significantly dampened by how long aircraft have to dedicate to each sortie, e.g. going to the AO, refueling, and moving out of the AO, then resupplying and doing it all over again.Anon, there's a reason aircraft carriers are extremely advantageous, even if you have an airbase on an island a few hundred kilometers back.
>>65364628>Hint: it's not the Caspian sea.Not normally, but the southern route is "increasingly unavailable". Also the rail line has seen better days.You're going for the>we don't need itargument I see.As I said, go for it champ.
>>65364602Anon, you don't want to go down the path of Iranian strike satellite photos. >INB4 they didn't hit anything important Please explain to me why an AN/FPS-132 isn't important. Why hangars, fuel tanks, and tactical fighters being repositioned doesn't matter.
>>65364466Guess we'll find out if Iran chimps out at Ukraine.
>>65363535what part of "net oil exporter" are people failing to understand about how US geopolitical strategy changed in the last 20 years.we don't need their fucking oil. that's why this whole stupid shitmess started. the iranians can no longer massively fuck with the US economy by putting it into an energy crisis death spiral like in 1979.
>>65364831>an AN/FPS-132>one (1) single HVT struck over the course of 5 months>shifts mid-sentence from satellite analysis of strikes to "well um they're repositioning"You act as though this is still a Maduro-tier raid, which is what it was supposed to be, but it has long since escalated into a proper war. Taking single-digit losses in such a war is not the world-ending defeat you third-worlders seem to think it is.And shuffling asset positions is supposed to be your "gotcha"? That's what we SHOULD be doing in any campaign like this, regardless of the enemy drone/missile threat. To be clear, we would definitely be complacent and not re-basing right now if not for that threat, I'm just saying it's a nothingburger that you're latching onto out of desperation.>>65364701This is more or less the exact reason we have a giant inventory of strategic bombers, and whining about flight hours is laughable - what, you want these things to sit pretty in a hangar for their entire service life? Welcome to /k/, motherfucker.
>>65364859Why is a net oil exporter vacuuming through its strategic oil reserve?
>>65364831The satellites and the AWACS kill on the ground were the two valuable targets Iran scored. Had to look at those for weeks. But that's not what's being touted now. So the US relocated its planes. How is Iran going to get to those now? How is Iran going to protect their own resources from being bombed?
>>65364906US oil production and consumption are exceedingly well documented. the SPR is more for addressing petroleum price shocks than keeping americans from waiting in 1970's fuel lines.speaking of strategic oil reserves, you should probably check on who is actually burning through them and facing no-no bad thing energy collapse because those nations don't have energy security.
>>65364909> How is Iran going to get to those now?by lobbing missiles at them again?
>>65364909>How is Iran going to protect their own resources from being bombed?All of their most critical military infrastructure are beneath invulnerable mountain bunkers? Bunkers that have already resisted America's best attempt at knocking them out?If you start hitting power and water infrastructure they'll just flatten the 5 (five) power/desalination plants that keep Israel inhabitable lmao.
>>65365002>keep Israel inhabitable lmao.Which means Israel would use nukes in retaliation. So please do it.
>>65365007>ook ook ookGood to know the Yids are just sand Russians like everything assumed they were. It'll be nice to see Tel Aviv disappear beneath a flash of Iranian nuclear fire a week later.
>>65365002>the only remaining infrastructure we have was actually the most critical all along!
>>65365009Nah nigger. Some of us have been waiting for things to escalate into a proper full scale war.
>>65365012Finally something everyone can agree on.
So all Iran can do is keep shitting out AI, spamming social media, lobbing things at ships, and occasionally hit it airbase. And that's exactly why they're being isolated and cut off. Nobody using the strait fully but the rest of the region is already finding alternatives. The Irannies can sit in their mountains. The world moves on outside of them. Cavemen try to come out and get their skulls caved in.
>>65365036In a lot of ways, they're turning into Afghanistan 2.0
>>65365036So what's the point of continuing the war then?
>>65362081>>65362095>>65365036I'm going to sound like a thirdy, but the only reason oil hasn't gone to the moon is a coordinated effort between every major country to open the spigots on strategic and private oil reserves. You can't do that forever without compromising your own strategic position, so if Iran and the Houthis keep up pressure on Hormuz and Bab al-Mandab, markets are going to eventually be in world of hurt. Except Xi, who will be laughing to the bank because China planned for this exact scenario.
>>65365036>And that's exactly why they're being isolated and cut off.They were already isolated and cutoff before lmao. That's the drawback of Jewish "maximum pressure" sanctions, makes it so you don't have anything to lose. Regardless, their position has improved immeasurably since the war started anyway.
>>65365168implessive
>>65365168Xi got screwed once again because "do nothing..." resulted in the loss of another ally. Chinese ships aren't getting into Iran's ports and vice versa. Oil prices went up a bit but everyone was already realizing the Hormuz was going to be unreliable. There's going to be other pipelines and transport routes. All Iran did was show why letting them have the ability to hold that passage hostage was bad strategy.>>65365185>their position has improved immeasurablylol. They're forced to become direct with their actions. No more hiding behind proxies and going "It's not us" They're forced to use their own weapons for their own defense. And they're forced to take losses that directly affect them. Sanctions are worthless. I'm talking strangulation. Their ports, shipping, bridges, railroads, etc.
>>65365189bot
>>65365168Well you certainly sounded like a turdie, good job.
>>65365185>their position has improved immeasurably since the war started anyway
>>65365115So Netanyahu doesn't release all the blackmail he has on Trump and other US politicians
>>65365208Are these other pipelines and transport routes in the room with us? The East-West Arabian pipeline has been maxed out since April, and that routing is still susceptible to Houthi attacks.>>65365189>>65365260You didn't address my arguments at all. I accept your concession.
>>65365269>they aren't here now so they will never existHand and outlet
>>65365185>position has improved immeasurably since the war started anyway.god I wish you polint dipshits would fuck off forever
>>65365208>There's going to be other pipelines and transport routesOh, and what stops Iran from bombing those pipelines?
>>65365277>just bombing other nations' pipelines to force the world to use HormyzThis thread is officially a shitskin malding session
>>65362132I don't think you're familiar with American damage control game. Last time the Iranians actually hit a US naval ship it lost them half their surface fleet before cucks called off the counter-attack and the ship the towelheads hit didn't even sink or get scrapped.
>>65365281>smug>no actual answerYou're the most brown turd here man
>>65365290So we'd bomb them twice as hard now? Will the gloves come off this time? Are we yet to see the real american military?
>>65365306>y u no debate my fantasy????Fuck off Ahmed.
>WE WILL SINK AMERICAN DESTROYERS>WE WILL DESTROY ANY PIPELINE THAT UNDERMINES THE STRAIT>WE ARE STRONGER THAN EVERholy fuck the meltdown in here lmfao
>>65365311>chudly rented a gun todayNeat, you still never answered that guy. You've whinged that every single person who questions your claims or asks for a source/explanation is a commie, traitor, brown etc. You are the brownest shill this side of shillingstan, and behave exactly like what you claim to despise.
>>65365316>whingeOooof
>>65365316>that guycmon man
>>65365277Then it stops any charade of "The strait is our water and we control it" and becomes open war. In which case any and all of Iran's infrastructure is forfeit.Honestly, at that point, I'd expect the Saudis to vocally declare they are developing nukes specifically to use against Iran. Then we see just how close Iran really was to developing them.
>>65365277Is that a serious question or are you pretending to be retarded
>this thread
>>65365325Feel free to (You) check me, I'm a different guy annoyed that magatard here can't actually answer questions.
>>65365316Anyone arguing in good faith doesn't need to have it explained to them why a nation attacking anyone and everyone developing pipelines to facilitate global fuel transaction is a retardedly awful idea
>>65365343If the nation was normal I'd agree, but iran is more like a mad dog just wildly biting. I'm actually more pissed at trumps pussy footing with them than anything, its juat fucking over allies to accomplish fuck all. I would have rather seen tehran nuked than the current situation that the admin seems to have locked itself in.
>>65365356You might as well be asking what's stopping Iran from assassinating all the leaders in Israel and the Western world. It's a silly proposition and would ultimately lead to their total eradication. They can't "just" attack any venture attached to building pipelines that bypass the strait.
>>65365364Why not? They've bombed desal plants and pipelines before during this conflict. National suicide does line up with iranian belief.
>>65365366Are you actually proposing they'd be able to attack everything seeking out an alternative oil transfer over the strait and the world would just let this happen? This sounds like bad faith concern trolling
>>65365342Be all mad, shitskin lmfao. Ywn be white.
>>65365371The world kinda already has. Aside from activating air defenses the arab world has done fuck all, even when high rises were burning in dubai. I don't currently see the will or direction for another desert storm right now. As far as the rest of the world, they seem content staying out of it as well. I doubt iran has enough ballistics to threaten every transfer station tho, but they could send shaheeds at pipelines.>>65365378You were born the wrong color, clearly.
>>65365405If you actually think the world, including the countries directly attacked, is going to just set idly by while Iran blows up and murders anything threatening the strait's relevance to oil transfer, then I can honestly write you off as a bad faith actor not worth engaging with further.Have a good evening.
>>65365414If there was precedence i would agree with you, but with the lack of it, i don't. Good night.
>>65365405you're reaching levels of retardation not previously thought possible
>>65365405>even when high rises were burning in dubaifor what it's worth, I would do fuck all about high rises burning in dubai too
Weird how a thread about bridge strikes in Iran turns into navel-gazing how Iran can attack everything from USN ships to pipelines throughout the ME with impunity ..
>>65365115Iran wants to keep fighting.
>>65365168>Except Xi, who will be laughing to the bankAnon, the Chinese Stock Market crashed.
>>65362288>he's not my friendI'm not your buddy, pal.
>>65365596QRD?
>>65365343>literally hosting military forces that are bombing and killing their people>just random countries with no relationship to whats happening in Iran so Iran isn't allowed to attack themI wonder what America's reaction would be if Cuba hosted a Russian military force that slagged a girl's school and killed 150 American school girls in an unprovoked attack lmao. Absolutely braindead.
>>65365947>unprovoked attacklol
>>65365414>the world, including the countries directly attacked, is going to just set idly by while Iran blows up and murders anything threatening the strait's relevance to oil transferYea, and what the fuck are they gonna do about it? Oil monarchies will expend their limited arsenals blowing up nothing in Iran like America has been doing? KSA couldn't even beat the Houthis and you expect them to go against Iran? Europeans will mobilize their navies that are a rounding error compared to the USN, which has already failed, and have them bomb more fishing boats? Iran has the only competent military forces, Iraqi militias, Hezbollah, Houthis, on their side. America has the oil monarchies, who are too busy taking shits on Slavic models, and the Israelis, who are too busy raping kids in their concentration camps.
>>65365965You are going to get raped via ground invasion of a coalition of the United States and all the nations bordering you that you're attacking, you stupid nigger
>>65365947>>65365965>Iran dindu nuffin also it's invincible and also it can do whatever it wants
>>65365984And which of these neighbors are gonna help us mount an invasion again? Pakistan who are Iran's ally, dependent on Iran for oil and gas while also having a large Shia minority? Azerbaijan who will have 90% of their economy wiped out by a dozen drones the moment they sneeze wrong? Gonna convince Turkey to help out the Kurds? Iraq is already under Iranian control (Thanks Israel!), so you're only hope is to try and use the Gulfie bases that have already been bombed to bits to mount an amphibious invasion across Hormuz while under constant missile and drone attack. Will be a ton of fun.It took 6 months of mustering to prepare for the invasion of Iraq and that was when we had a huge Cold War era stockpile to draw from, didn't have to worry about missile or drone attacks, and had a coalition of willing allies and strong domestic support. What do we have now other than the Israelis who couldn't even conquer Gaza?It's over. There is quite literally zero path to victory for the US here. It's checkmate. The only way to win was for Trump to not rape kids on Epstein's island and thus not commence the war in the first place.
>>65366458>us>we
>>65366458>Iraq is le under Iranian control Odd how that doesn't match reality retardkun
>>65365208I don’t usually play devils advocate for the chinsects but they have like 10x the SPR that the US or any other country does. That’s just a fact.It was possible they could have been faking it by filling up their tanks with water or something like that.But I doubt that since they cut oil imports literally in half in one month and it barely changed the prices at the pumps over there.Apparently a lot of their SPR was oil from sanctioned countries like Russia and Iran so all the sanctions did was let china collect a gorillion barrels on the cheap as the mother of all stockpiles.They could quite literally sit on their oil hoard for years, let the US kill itself for Israel, let the European and Asian economies take the collateral damage, then just waltz into the middle east to collect cheap oil again once everyone else falls into mad max chaos.Or they could sell EVs.Really they’re in a hugely beneficial position and it’s quite frustrating because I certainly don’t like them, but I’m starting to hate the low IQ pedo ZOG monkeys ruining everything even more than the chinks.
>>65365924House market imploded in China, middle class wealth storage is fucked. China is now forcing Chinese citizens to buy physical gold in their exchanges.
>>65365473Many such cases, frankly. Low-energy third worlders, very sad.
>>65365314I guess you could say it was a bridge too far.
>>65366899CARLOS YOU LITTLE SHI-
>>65366861Let's see it, totally normal poster who definitely isn't the same thirdie writing schizophrenic paragraphs up above.
>>65364647>It does mean longer missions for crews, but it's still been sustainable.The problem is not the crews. the downsides of distant basing is a greatly reduced amount of missions as well as greatly increased flight time load on the aircrafts. You may not know it, but components in an aircraft has a flight hour limit, once their flight hours are spent, they have to be swapped. When you run out of flight hours for critical components, the entire aircraft goes in for a rebuild, which is an expensive undertaking that consumes a lot of manhours as well as total time.
>>65364745>Not normally, but the southern route is "increasingly unavailable". Also the rail line has seen better days.Iran can also be reached by trucks going trough central asia. So one way or another, they will get chink/russian critical imports, it will just be more expensive and difficult.
>>65362081Just a brownoid shill. It's 3.14 right now at Walmart
>>65366915And what do those trucks do when the roads and bridges are out of commission?
>>65366912And yet Iran is being bombed to rubble, curious! Where are the AI djinns in Iran's hour of need?
>>65361742Actually probably easier to stack up a few prefab frames and nigger rig the bridge back to working order (reduced speed, only one truck at a time).That looks like a fast flowing river, pontooning would not be fun.
>>65366954>Where are the djinns in Iran's hour of need?Believe it or not, also working for Mossadhttps://en.tempo.co/read/2028216/iranian-official-accuses-israel-of-using-supernatural-forces-during-12-day-war
>>65365405You are brown and will not post your hand.
ONE BRIDGEI DON'T KNOW WHY
>>65367105>The jews have bought out the djinnsOh no no no Iranbros.>>65367115IIRC his name is literally Achmad, he outed both his name and that he's a wikipedia editor a while back.
>>65365316>call someone brown>proves Caucasian heritage and weapon taste>"n-nice rental gun..."fucking destroyed, go home chief
>>65362081Probably California, they've got massive taxes on fuel.
>>65363406I see the redditors arrived
>>65365356>concern troll mode: engaged
>>65365310>ncdfag goes into mental collapse
>>65363406>You're as bad as us!!!Lol, lmao, the US is winning both wars.
>>65366899Impeccably apt, Carlos
>>65366865>House market imploded in ChinaShit really?
>>65363406>China not shown disemboweling itself via demographic and housing market collapseA chink made this
>>65367283specifically it's made by a redditor marked as Polish that has a lengthy posting history of sucking off China. makes you wonder how it got here.
>>65367226>>65367254>>65367263>>65367266>fee fees so hurt he had to reply to each day old commentOof bud
>>65367296Hand now
>>65367303Come get me swarthoid
>>65367314bruh that is literally arab level...
>>65367314Is this bait?
>>65367317Have you never seen the sun?
>>65367314thatthingsbrown.png
>>65365115Over the past 50 years the rest of the Middle East has realized that staying in their lane and playing nice with everyone, making sure the proles have enough money in their pockets to eat decently every day and something to watch on tv, keeping the corruption down to publicly tolerable levels, and performatively shaking a fist as Israel every few years while making backroom deals with them makes them richer and their power more stable. Iran hasn't gotten the fucking memo and has its most powerful state institution being dedicated to starting shit all over the region and the world and blowing its economy on stockpiling missiles despite seeing its standard of living continuous decline over decades to the point nationwide ecological collapse is on the table. All Iran has to do is chill out to the same level as the other authoritarian, despotic nations their vicinity and things would look up for them. It's geopolitical version, "the beatings will continue until you stop being a retard."
>>65366954Seeing more vids of American bases exploding than anything important in Iran blowing Cope-kun.
>>65367314oh my god you can literally see the pigmentation change on its middle finger lmfaooo
>>65367331>basement dwelling fattyI see then
>>65367314>calls others swarthy>that picAnother tragic case of a shitskin thinking it's white
>>65367335Yea, it definitely isn't because Iran has been under crippling sanctions for decades that their economy is bad. Yup, definitely no ones fault but Iran's.I like how your definition of "retard" is not sitting by and letting Zog do whatever it wants. Smartest thing to do is just be a good little kikeslave like the rest of the Gulf. Definitely no idea what flag this poster is posting under. Also apparently preparing yourself for a war that ends in an overwhelming victory is bad or something. Gonna have to come up with more copes soon other than "ur economy bad" once Iran's victory becomes more apparent lmao.
reminder the seething creature in here is a literal sand person
>>65367355Yeah, we could tell with >>65367314
>>65367296Gun and hand, thirdie.
>>65367314>Fat little BROWN sausage fingersI'm going to burst my fatty American heart laughing at you.
>>65367340>Anything important in Iran blowing Cope-kunI don't want a blowie from them but Iran is a pretty gay country, yeah. What do you think matters more, powerplants and bridges to Iran or an empty supply tent to the USA?
>>65367354And why are they sanctioned? Could it be the terror network funding and nuclear program? >SlaveThirdies literally cannot comprehend the concept of allies, only slaves and masters.
>>65367314You unironically have a melanin transition at the glabrous skin barrier.
>>65367355>AchMAD
This is truly a baffling thread. You post the most milquetoast critique of US operations in Iran and get flamed by multiple people without any argument. I want to say that it's fifth columnists falseflagging to make the US and american posters look bad.
>>65367378I think Irans made the bet that america isn't willing to iwo jima every bunker in iran before the plug gets pulled from congress. Pete can beg for more money all he wants, but time isn't on his side.
>>65367393Go away, brownie. You concerntroll like a woman.
>>65367393magalards are a fucking embarassment to the country and should be hung
>>65367355That thread revealing we literally have malding camelfuckers actively editing Wikipedia articles to steer thread debates here was equal parts hilarious and sad. We really are just another /int/.
>>65367393Hand and gun
>>65367381>Complaining about terrorism when our only ally is fucking ISRAEL whoa>nuclear program?My country's (not yours) intelligence apparatus has repeatedly testified before Congress that there is no evidence that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon. I'm gonna trust them over you.>Thirdies literally cannot comprehend the concept of allies, only slaves and masters.Mind bogglingly out of touch comment in the face of the US-Israel relationship lmfao.
>>65367422You are not American.
>>65367406Just without the flags.
>>65367422>I trust Congress and the CIA/FBI>I'm American Turdie moment.
>>65367398>>65367393Upset your hand got made fun of, Achmad?
>>65367397>>65367414>>65367442Discord raid or samefag? Very high quality posts either way.
>>65367422Ok, go sanction our regional proxy Israel then. We're waiting. >No evidence of nukes here sirsFunniest comment in the thread in my humble opinion.
>>65367446Organic mockery actually.
>>65367446Probably just swapping back and forth with incognito mode or something. I think he's the same chud fantasizing about being a boomer in a different thread.
>>65366458You're retarded because it would obviously just go through Iraq, but this post made me think of a hilarious scenario: launching an invasion from Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, who hate Iran and want to improve their standing with the West and the Sunni gulf statesAlso you're doubly retarded because Iran has thoroughly proven that they do not have the kinds of munition stockpiles remaining to be able to cause serious immediate damage to a full-scale invasion force.
>>65367451>Israel is our regional proxy.lmao.>>65367437>Don't trust the CIA>DO trust the IsraelisVery Amerikanski post here comrade.
>>65367446>>65367459Can't even find one /pig/ger who isn't too depressed to come "raid" with you? Sad.
>>65367462Surely the Persians will run out of arrows this time. Just muster in the country full of extremely loyal Shia militia who are still upset you killed their Pope and his family.
>>65367468Yes, they are. Second part of your post wasn't addressed to me but I'm answering anyway, the CIA under Obama (what you're referencing) was his pet and there to push globalism, and that included defending him when he sent money to Iran that was used to fund nukes.
>>65367471Oh so now losing the Ayatollah matters. Who's loyal, retard? They had massive protests. >Surely the Persians will run out of arrows this timeInstead of Roman infantry led by a banker it's the US military and they've already squashed most of Iran flat. What is your strategy to reverse this? Shia coping? You were well named, ACK MAD.
>>65367469You've referenced that board before, what actually is it? Did they touch you inappropriately?
>>65367478>muh CIA 3 presidents ago might have done something i have no evidence ofTrump more recently opened negotiations with iran by sending them $10 bil thru the UAE. Is the CIA under trump globalist for defending him doing so?
>>65367471Iran is not the Persian Empire.
>>65367494>>65367487And other things that didn't happen. Go back to your general on /pol/, /pig/ger. You'll be happier there posting AI generated images and pretending Iran isn't losing.
>>65367393Except it hasn't been actual criticism of US operations, it has been a nonstop stream of retarded bullshit trying to sell Iran for more than what it is: a bombed-out husk on the brink of starvation, barely capable of sustaining intermittent isolated attacks. If it's criticism of the US, then criticize specifics, don't keep posting delusional third world bullshit. For example, Hegseth should be executed by firing squad for not positioning C-UAS systems (available, in CONUS) in US Gulf bases before launching the initial attacks. It was retardation with no excuse that cost American lives.But criticism like that never gets mentioned. Specifics of what is deployed, what it does, or why it's fucked up, is virtually never a topic of complaint. The only guy ITT who has done that is the retard who's complaining about the US strategic bomber fleet being used for its intended purpose, because it will increase airframe flight hours.And that's why you get called a stinky brown retard, because you don't even seem to understand at a conceptual level what actual criticism looks like.
>>65367503Ok, so it's a pol general. For? I don't go to that dumpster fire.
>>65365405I think this deserves a serious answer. For the neighboring countries it's not worth it to get involved yet. Iran hasn't shown a capability or willingness to cause serious, long-term damage and its neighbors don't want to be dragged into fighting regardless of who they think will win because wars are expensive. From there perspective and damage currently done can be used as leverage for concessions or reparations at the end of the conflict. Iran has handled this aspect of the conflict terribly by randomly striking neighboring countries and it's most recent goals make clear that it actually intends to become suzerain of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Yemen, and Oman at minimum with exclusive exceptions to maritime law for its benefit. Its current statements and actions are essentially declaring that the world must reorient itself to create an economic and political hegemony of Iran or it will be attacked. And that's a pretty fucking massive problem because 1.)Iran hasn't shown it can back up those statements, and 2.)all it's going to do is make you a lot more enemies. Is Iran going to expect everyone to stand by as they attack? The USA and Israel have some interest in keeping the Iranian nation intact in some measure, the surrounding Gulf nations do not. Is Saudi Arabia going to care about an ecological crisis from bombing and droning the shit out of Iran's oil fields and terminals? No. Is the UAE going to wring its hands about a humanitarian disaster when it starts bombing cities? No. Is Oman going to care about civilian deaths when it strikes dams and pumping stations? No. And how is it going to address nations outside its immediate area moving away from dependency on the Strait? Will be see an Iranian naval invasion of Norway to secure it's oil fields? Will IRGC fund, train, and supply terrorist groups in China to destroy EV factories?
>>65367513I appreciate you demonstrating a legitimate criticism of Hegseth that isn't "he's Hitler genociding innocent Iranian trans kids" but Ackmad won't get it.
>>65367446Where is your hand you samefagging queer
>>65367525For (You).
>>65367478>Actually sincerely using Fox News boomerslop talking points about Obama giving Iran money to make nukes
>>65367543He did though.
>>65367513>Pointing out that American bases are non-operable is being retarded>Posts redditjak slopPinnacle of the idiocy in this thread lmao
>>65367314What the fuck made you think this proved you were white
>>65367528This is more or less spelling out the reasons I consider obvious that a coalition invasion is a real threat to Iran, but I suppose our thirdie "friend" doesn't get it, so thank you for taking time out of your day to write this up for him
>>65367551Less than trump, by a wide margin
>>65367528>by randomly striking neighboring countriesWhat would America's reaction be to Cuba or Venezuela hosting Russian forces that have killed thousands of Americans? Do you think we would just sit idly by and say "well they aren't a part of the conflict so there's nothing we can do".Why would the Gulf Pedostates bomb Iranian infrastructure when their own infrastructure hasn't been attacked and they are far more vulnerable to damage? It's far more likely they would cut deals to get Iran to fuck off. See UAE paying them $3 billion of their frozen funds and so they aren't being bombed anymore.
>>65367570In your fanfiction, not reality.
>>65367554>Pointing out that [delusional bullshit] is being retardedSurely we'll be seeing the withdrawal of all overseas CENTCOM forces any minute now>>65367564>>65367314Literally picrel
>>65367576>weyou're doing it again, Achmad
half of this thread are the fantastical tirades of a lone sandperson thinking he comes off as an American despite posting photographic evidence to the contrary and pretending no one saw it. it's confounding
>>65367582>Surely we'll be seeing the withdrawal of all overseas CENTCOM forces any minute nowUhh, we're already seeing that? Al Udeid has been emptied of all planes and we're concentrating our forces thousands of miles away in Jordan and Israel because of the threat of Iranian weaponry. But no, we're definitely gonna spend 6 months mustering forces for a coalition invasion of Iran in Iraq lmao.
>>65367599>we're >ourhand and gun
>>65367601>actual talking points>noooo u have a taaaaaaaan in the summer reeeeeeeTouch grass polestinian
>>65367601I don't feel like taking out my Garand and doxxing myself for your gay little demands, Jewboy. Discuss the war and American strategy or fuck off.
>>65367608>>65367612Oh fuck he's brown and gunless, tragic
>>65367601He doesn't have whiteness, nor guns.
>>65367599>>65367608Syria and Jordan are the same distance from Tehran (~500mi) as Qatar is, you retard
catastrophic brownoid crashout in here, zamn
>>65367623So have the qataris just gotten tired of getting bombed and booted us, thus accomplishing one of irans war goals?
>>65367629>us
>>65367623That would be useful if every missile was flying out of Tehran, but they aren't. Positioning in Jordan and Israel means they're out of range of Iran's SRBM arsenal. All our bases near Iran have been emptied and Israel is now hosting hundreds of tanker aircraft. This sort of thing was unimaginable just a few years ago and is testament to the magnitude of this war's failure.
>>65367635I hate to break it to you, Yahud, but a war that is incredibly unpopular among younger Americans is not going to be talked about fondly on a website primarily populated by younger Americans. Maybe the Fox News comment section is more up your alley?
>>65367642hand and gun
>>65367639But hey we got a bridge and a tractor this week!
>>65367642Achmad, c'mon man.
>>65367653>>65367648>boomers not built for these newfangled forumsGotta get your signature right
>>65367513Well I appreciate your effort post in response to my question. I personally have not made any posts showing Iran as strong and masculine. The only thing I criticized was US oil strategy and oil reserves.
>>65367314The fucking state of turdies in this thread
>>65367629Oh look another thirdie posting a delusion as though it actually happened, while pretending to be American>>65367639>Reposition to be out of range of missiles whils having identical offensive capabilities>/pol/tards think this is some huge winIt would be fucking retarded for them not to re-base, even if there were zero attacks on it up to this point. There is no change in how much air-rape gets delivered to Iran, but takes away their capability to retaliate even theoretically. ...are you just butthurt about no longer being able to give even token resistance? Lmao>>65367642You dumb tourist nigger do you even know what board you're on?
>>65367649>>65367642holy shit please stop replying to yourself achmad
>>65367664>You dumb tourist nigger do you even know what board you're on?Do you? Go back to pol
>>65367664>There is no change in how much air-rape gets delivered to Iran, but takes away their capability to retaliate even theoretically.Sortie rate is in the toilet and we're only hitting fishing boats on the coast lmao.>Theoretically>You dumb tourist nigger do you even know what board you're on?The board that got flooded by a horde of noguns shills after October 7th? Archives exist, you, know. No one talked about meaningless sandwars fought for Israel like this before Hamas did a funny in Jewland.
>>65367662In that case it's because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what those oil reserves and strategies actually are. >>65364942 sums it up rather well. Its purpose is essentially to be a buffer against price shocks while avoiding any re-routing of domestic crude intended for export, which would fuck up foreign trade partners and some domestic corporations. If the entire reserve were to be blown through, which judging by the current trajectory is not likely, we would shrug our shoulders and export less crude, and whoever was profiting from the exports will have a bad day on the stock market. That's about it, really./pol/tards have instead created a narrative that we're going to suddenly see fuel shortages and total global collapse or whatever, and whenever anyone discusses the oil reserves in the context of this war, it's either a poltard or someone who has fallen for their bait. It's honestly hardly, if at all, relevant to this war.
>>65367676>expecting the weapons board to be anti-warI'm in favor of all wars at all times, and I'm a moderate compared to some of these guys.
>>65367689The speed at which it drained concerns me along with how far it fell. It just seems super fucking fast.
>>65367681Post your gun
>>65364942>>65367689Ok, but even if the US still has access to plenty of crude, a huge shock to the global supply system will have ripple effects that drive prices up domestically and internationally. Hitting the wallets of everyday americans is the strongest move Iran can make if they want to put pressure on the administration.
>>65367576I like how you completely missed the point that for the surrounding Gulf states it's currently not worth it to become actively involved, but if Iran makes dedicated attacks against their infrastructure it suddenly becomes very much in their interest to destroy Iran's infrastructure.
>>65367792Anon, gas is $4/gallon where I live. It's far from reaching a point of real impact.>>65367754Take a look at the time scale on that chart.
>>65367649You forgot a little city called Bandar Abbas that is essential to Iran
>>65367689It's because Russia is having fuel shortages. The immediate leftist response is always "no u", because they learned it from the Russians during the Cold War and never grew past that point.
>>65367681We bombed Iran for two weeks and took a break of a day or so because an Iranian official probably begged Trump for a reprieve.
>>65364652Do the Americans have a preset kill limit or something? What failure?
>>65367863He makes the same posts every day. He runs away to /pig/ for emotional support from other "New Europeans" and thirdies back home, gets his confidence back, and within a day or so is confidently repeating that gas is $10. Maybe it is in India or China, but not in the US. One of the perks of having of our oil.
>>65367885Is the city gone? Taken by us forces?
>>65367928Having our own oil, fuck. I'll take my roast like a man.
>>65367863Yes, that tanking on the far right is just this year. That is concerning, it's also a lagging indicator since the data is a couple months old.
>>65367932It's as flat as my favorite anime girls. Power is out, bridges are gone. You can move the goalposts, but you can't move military supplies without bridges.
>>65367940>Actually says concerningThis is the best /pig/ can do.
>>65367863>>65367928Yes, gas is only $4/gal due to lots of efforts and emergency measures to control the price of oil and avoid shock from the war. You are assuming that just because those measures have worked so far, that they will continue to work over the period of a drawn out asymmetric conflict. Not to mention, gas and oil are still much higher than they were in february, even with all the stopgaps.
>>65367940Address the hand you posted.
>>65367967No, it's because America's oil doesn't go through the Strait of Hormuz, we have our own. The reason the SPR is low is because Biden opened up a bunch of it as part of an effort by his party to undo the deliberate economic damage they did to hurt their opposition's numbers during Covid. He then pissed off the Saudis and couldn't refill it. When is the US going to have a fuel crisis, two weeks perhaps?
>>65369040>When is the US going to have a fuel crisis, two weeks perhaps?4, actually.
>>65369129Ah, thirdies can't afford two week copium anymore, that's a sad state of affairs.
>>65361821Can I see where america is becoming richer and more powerful by bombing Iran? I'm pretty sure you could order cardboard ayatollahs for 3.50 instead of wasting so much money and ordnance to keep the strait closed.
>>65361821>>we didn't need oil exports >>we didn't need allies >>we didn't need desalination plants But enough about the Saudis
>>65361971>moving goal postsYou seem to be the king of that sport. 1. Those bombs were a tiny bit bigger than a JDAM. 2. Japan was an Island Empire. They didn't have a protected transport corridor through the Caspian sea or a railline to China. 3. Back in the day if the US lost 200 planes in a naval battle on monday, those forces were replenished on Thursday. Today the waiting list for a new Tomahawk, Patriot puts you in the 2030s.And this isn't even going into the fact that many amphibious invasions and land battles had to be fought to get to the surrender.The Iranians are in a much better position compared to the Japanese by nearly every metric.
>>65370527That's your strawman, ACK-med, but just in case anyone's forgotten:>be Iran>take 52 American diplomats hostage for 444 days in Tehran in 1979>slaughter 241 U.S. Marines in Beirut via Hezbollah, directed by Iran’s IRGC in 1983.>bomb a community center in Argentina, killing 85 and injuring 300 in 1994.>murder 19 U.S. airmen in Khobar Towers, via Saudi Hezbollah in 1996.>murder 17 sailors on the USS Cole in 2000, with U.S. courts finding Iran complicit through its training of Al-Qaeda. >assassinate 22 people just to kill the Lebanese ex-PM in 2005>murder 608+ U.S. troops via Iranian-supplied EFPs in Iraq from 2003 to 2011>destabilize Syria via Shia militias, help Assad slaughter tens of thousands>send hoax text messages about a fake Koran burning to incite riots in Sweden and assorted kidnappings of European citizens in 2023.>send drone and rocket attacks via Iranian militias to kill U.S. soldiers at Tower 22, injuring dozens across Iraq, Syria, and Jordan between 2020 and 2024.>claim you are abiding by agreed-upon NPT treaties then don't allow inspectors into installations and keep boasting about destroying the big and little Satans.>Use your Australian embassy to incite racial violence in foreign countries>Planned to send armed pilgrims to shoot up unarmed crowds of fellow Muslims at their most holy site >get bombed after sending your proxies to start a war by massacring civilians and bombing residential areas.>dindu nuffinAvenging the fallen members of our military is its own reward, while ensuring freedom of navigation and removing our allies' (Iraq, Saudi, Israel) primary threat in the region is a positive outcome for American power and the world economy it nurtures. If Russia can't get enough fertilizer to plant next year's wheat harvest and pidors starve I'll consider it a hat trick. >>65370539Seething Shia spotted
