Is there a better soft armor for the price than this? safelifedefense Concealable Enhanced Multi-Threat Vest Level IIIA+ NIJ ceritifed, IIIA, Spike/Stab level 1, 700$
Safelife is crap armor, see this thread.https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65298956
>>65364590That's incredibly interesting, however I'm going to rape you.
>>65364606dang I thought NIJ certified = goodwill read
>First order of business, decide your actual desired protection levelDo you guys use this while hunting or what's the use case? Like just in case your buddy accidentally shoots you in the back? I don't have any guns but I heard everyone has to wear glow in the dark outfits while hunting and even then people end up shooting each other all the timet. no guns
>>65364861It enhances the LARP
>>65364590You used to be able to get Police surplus vests like this for 100 bucks a pop before Corona.
>>65364842Basically all their crap is too heavy for what it does.>>65364861Emergencies, basically. SHTF type stuff but I've also got a slick lo-pro carrier I can wear to the range in case retards are on the line or dumbfuck dale gives his girl a .500 S&W or something else and she loses control.>>65365064Still can on Botach Surplus and other sites if you're quick.
>>65366815Wearing body armor and tactical CQB boots and a molle bag in public after a natural disaster or civil unrest seems like a great way to attract a bullet from behind, same as strolling around in public with a battle rifle and a bunch of "constitutional silver" in a bag and whatever other larping you guys seem to fantasize about but hey maybe I'm the crazy one here but the more bullets are on your mind the more you're going to attract a bullet in the brain, personally if I had to quit my home under questionable conditions I'd go out in an old tshirt, flip flops, gym shorts, a sportsball cap, $15 truck stop sunglasses and a jansport bag and at best maybe $1500 in my wallet and some credit cards and ID, combat equipment just screams "shoot me, I'm the biggest threat to you in a 10 mile radius, please neutralize me sir"
>>65366827You can conceal multi curve plates under 0.6" thick under street clothes with a slick carrier, like a slickster or condor spectre.Thinner the better, but plates start sucking protection-to-weight wise under 0.5" thick.
>>65366872Sure I mean maybe in January in a northern state but I assumed most of you natural disaster preppers live in florida and it's going to be 105 degrees when you're trying to conceal your half inch thick body armor while on a long range outdoor march, I don't see how that's a realistic option in the scenarios being presented
>>65366876Do what you gotta do kinda thing. The plates are 4lb a piece or less which makes it easier. If SOCOM can do it in the sandbox with PBZSAs, so can florida man.
>>65366959I wasn't saying florida man can't physically carry some plates, I was saying your idea of grey manning with your concealed half inch body armor isn't going to be effective in the florida heat in august, you're either going to have body armor visible to everyone or you're going to be running around in an overcoat and that alone will make you look suspicious
>>65366970So wear a lightweight jacket, it's not impossible and if OPFOR thinks odd taste in fashion = threat then they'll be shooting random people and need to be eliminated
>>65364590Literally every soft armor is better than that. Just buy a BALCS panel off eBay
>>65366876>>65366959>>65366970Floridian here. More specifically the Fort Myers region. We had Ian come through and remove the entirety of Captiva and Sanibel. That was a long term SHTF situation with a complete breakdown of local ordinances. Sanibel and Captiva are their own jurisdictions/towns with geographic differences that cause challenges on their own. In a nutshell, the bridges, causeways, and any means besides boat and helicopter were impossible to employ.All the response crews went in with guns. If they chose to go in with plates, it was either under a T-shirt or openly over the T-shirt. Everyone understood they could be shot by the locals, regardless of kit; so nobody argued.now, did they take a full combat load? probably not. It was southern Florida near the height of the heat. A "light jacket" is a death sentence down there, and it's not like the locals were organizing into full sized militias in order to create a new world order.
>>65367064>BALCS panelDifference between BALCS/SPEAR and concealable highcom trooper?
>>65368566Concealable is more like typical police vest. BALCS will fit in a military BALCS setup.
>>65368626ok so concealable if I'm a normal person and not an autist?
>>65369478Yeah basically.
>>65364861Apparently this isn't common but if I'm hunting a public tract, or hell why not anyway, HELL YES.Durr season is DERP season.Plus alcohol and even LSD.So yes thanks, I'll be level IIIA+ in the woods.
>>65370239IIIA+ and all other soft armor is useless versus rifle rounds. A typical aramid IIIA vest is 30-35 layers of kevlar. M193 will pierce over 150.
>>65364861I'm a paramedic in a large southern city and Ive worn the concealable vest on shift to prevent feral North American Pavement Apes from stabbing me. would get bantered with at the station about it until a couple of years ago a Kasnsas City medic was stabbed by aforementioned fauna while in the back of the ambulance with her.
>>65370239Under my blaze coat i use level 4's. Fucking everyone trying to shoot a deer inside 30 yards with a fucking 30-06.
>>65370660What specific plate? There's a lot of shitters.
>>65370671I'll have to look but honestly probably should replace them at this point. I bought them in like 2018 for about $200 a plate. Not sure if that's trash range or not, didn't care at the time.
>>65370689$400 a set is generally still the ballpark. Plates don't reallu expire unless damaged and/or the adhesive connecting backer and strike face goes bad.If it's RMA, Hesco 4400s (single curve), or various b-list Chinese brands then replace.
>>65370692Shit they might have been rmas or hesco, that sounds familiar. If they are ill shoot them for you guys.
>>65370699Lol, very good. More testing data is always welcome. If you need replacements Gilliam Arms' 1635 is very attractive but unproven. Otherwise copsurp Protech 2230s are the dominant budget IV. They're also rated for Level III and even stop M2AP 600ft/s over base Level IV spec, so 3,510ft/s. $350 a set if you can find em. They go quick.Fallback is the Hesco 4403.
>>65370402This. Even the lightest actual durr rifle will punch through both sides of a kevlar vest at 300+ yards.
>>65370935and that's a lowball. .300 blackout will pierce most IIIA even subsonic. A .243, 6.5, .223, your choice will punch copsurp vests for a long distance.There is a tremendous gap between pistol and rifle armor, but true rifle rated lightweight stuff isn't expensive. Gilliam Arms has RF1 (7.62x51 M80 + 7.62x39 MSC + 5.56 M193) Helion plates at 2.5lb per, $300 a pair. Standalone all-PE. They'll get fucked up by M855, sure, but against durr rounds you're in good shape.
>>65366988You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and it really shows.
You can get real kevlar under $100 from Alibaba. You can't get scammed on the site if you use the buyer protection systems they offer.
>>65367085Fake and gay. Stick with bottoming. This fanfic fucking sucks.
>>65371514Hell, you used to be able to get the Italian milsurp III PE plates for like $50 a pop; older spec under 0101.04 so no MSC protection but they'll stop anything lead up to 7.62x51mm M80 ball. /pfg/ basically hoovered up the vast majority of said plates from SG (the main importer), but there's probably a bunch still around if you know where to look. They're pretty interesting for old tech, and online tests show them working quite well as long as they're in reasonably good condition.
>>65364590thats like a $100 vest at most
>>65366876>>65366827youre a dumbass and i wear armor to the range because of dumbass noobs and niggers like you who cant point the gun down range in a safe direction. some anon here posted his story about how some dumb mexican girl shot him at the range because she was holding the loaded pistol sideways with her finger on the trigger to look at it like a typical retard. he lived and had to do a few surgeries but im sure he wished he had a vest at the time
>>65374821You're gonna need Level V for that cuh
pony up the extra 300 bucks and get a crye lvs
