Eventually someone could change the implant software to automatically make your brain squeeze the trigger.You add a condition if you keep the middle finger squeezed, your index finger automatically squeezes periodically.
>>65370788Yeah
yes
>>65370788People don't seem to understand that neuralink is a company being developed to create an uninterrupted brain-machine connection allowing a real-time transfer of consciousness and thus immortality. It will probably be too expensive for (You) to afford and it will definitely be too expensive, for a very long time anyway, to use on enlisted grunts.In the very distant future it could potentially be used with guided munitions (not machine guns) but cost will be prohibitive for centuries, I'd wager
>>65370846Give it 5 years
>>65370851I'd very much love for it to be affordable to the masses, but if such a tech had a $100,000,000 price tag, how many people worth that much WOULDN'T give Musk their entire fortune to have it?
>>65370851It'll be ready after the second season of Elon's "Watching the rubes die on Mars" reality show has concluded.
>>65370788I will never put some richfags technobullshit in my brain, nor my body.
>>65370788It can already do that
>>65370788I hope so
Would it be fun and/or cool? Then the government will ban it.
>>65370846No, it’s purpose is to help paraplegics and maybe remote control some machinery. Stop with this fucking schizo shit.
>>65371058>Yeah we're sinking countless billions into tech that allows for increasingly complex neural-digital interfacing>Why?>Um, for paraplegics or something>Definitely not so the uber-elite can live forever, even though this exact line of research will directly make that possible
>>65370788Sure. You just have to take a ride on the Hyperloop to the brain doctor to get it done.
>>65370846But they wouldn't be immortal, they'd just have an immortal copy where the real them will still wither and die. Niggers have never contemplated the reality of teleportation and the necessity to destroy the original body to rebuild a copy atom by atom elsewhere and it shows
>>65371072Purely hypothetically.
>>65371090I doubt the kike elites even care so long as they can oppress us forever
>>65371090What if you replace chunks of your brain neuron by neuron with computers until no biological parts remain? You maintained continuity of consciousness throughout the entire process
>>65371072No, it won’t make that possible, you’re a fucking idiot.
>>65370846>He fell for the consciousness transfer meme
>>65371249>You maintained continuity of consciousness throughout the entire processNo you didn't, you killed one brain and built another and did it slowly enough that you never noticed it happen.
>>65370846RICHBROS WE LOST THE "COIN TOSS"
>>65371090No, the point of Neuralink is that this is no longer an issue. There is conscious transfer: you are first conscious in brain only, you an then be interfaced to a digital processor that augments your own brain power and progressively increases the amount of functions handled digitally, and finally once your executive functions and memories have all been completely replicated via digital neural networking, you can kill the original body - all of this happens with no interruption of consciousness, and it is therefore not a copy, because a copy was never made.
>>65371325That's what your brain does daily, anon. It typically takes about 7 years to do the full refresh of every single cell in the body, so according to you a 70yo man is actually a 10yo serial killer. Moravecian uploads are such a meme because you (presumably being older than 7) already accept they're valid.
>>65370788shame that a complete retard is the face of such cool and important tech
>>65371484>>65371249MAKING A COPY SIMULTANEOUSLY WHILE YOU ERASE THE ORIGINAL ISN'T RETAINING THE ORIGINAL YOU STUPID FUCKS. If I had the original Bible and transcribed it word by word and each word gets erased as soon as I write it in the transcript, that would still be a copy
>>65371072There is also the idea that you can extend the service life of a soldier by way of pretty advanced prosthetics. I don't ever foresee a future where everyone will willingly chop off a perfectly good limb to get a high tech peg-leg/hook-hand but imagine how much you could potentially save by saving some pvt. nobodie's knees and backs.
>>65371090We're talking about sociopathic billionaire kikes here Anon, if souls exist they 100% don't have any so philosophical and spiritual questions don't phase them. Stop thinking of these creatures as people, they're not.
>>65371596It's more akin to a ship of theseus than anything. But that's irrelevant because this tech is a dead end anyway, it just doesn't and will never work in any meaningful way.
>>65371596bu bu bu... the robot THINKS it's the original!!!
>>65371613you really dont see a future where people would swap their faulty prone to failure limbs for super powered replaceable machine?
>>65370788Just imagine the intrusive thought incidents.
>>65371736A healthy meat limb is easier to maintain then a high tech hook hand/peg leg. Also, what could they even do that wouldn't require doing a full body prosthetic to even accomplish?Have robot kung fu grip doesn't help you when your should meat should tears from it's socket and your spin snaps like a twig.
>>65371736Sure, if super limbs actually existed without a massive list of drawbacks and maintenance issues. The reality is that traditional meat limbs are free, self-repairing, last a lifetime, lift basically anything you'd need to lift, and have great sensory capacity. It's a bar nearly impossible to beat with near-future technology. Once nanotech level manufacturing is invented and has had 10-15 years to mature, then and only then will prosthetics stop being crap by default.
>>65371770With the appropriate limiters to stay within the constraints of what the rest of your body can handle, the reduced benefits are still potentially high.An otherwise normal guy with one perfect smart robot arm can't throw a car, but he could throw grenades accurately to 60m twice per second.
>>65371691It will work quite well for helping paraplegics and allowing people to control robot parts with their brains.The consciousness transfer is retarded schizo shit brought up out of nowhere that isn’t what neuralink intends to achieve.
>>65371590Elon musk is quite a capable engineer, he’s not stupid, he’s just extremely egotistical and impulsive with a saviour complex.
>>65371770>This dude thinks lifting 120Ibs is literally superhuman tier shit
>>65372378>Elon musk is quite a capable engineer, he’s not stupidI accept that he thinks he is a capable engineer and he certainly larps as one.His most successful projects have either been fraud or engineering projects that he had no real input into and was kept the fuck away from by handlers.
>>65371249This might be a novel idea, but turning your head into salami slices will kill you.
>>65372378He's literally a negro who's very good at getting fed gibs.
>>65370846To record 80 years of human memory is like hundreds of petabytes. You wouldn't want to compress it because then your memories would be like a jpg saved in 1998 accessed now. Horrors beyond comprehension territory. And that just the storage. Billionaires getting scammed
>>65372913>You wouldn't want to compress it because then your memories would be like a jpg saved in 1998 accessed now.That's true of human memory though, we don't store videos, we store prompts that we rebuild the memory with.
>>65372913>You wouldn't want to compress it because then your memories would be like a jpg saved in 1998 accessed now. How do you think memories work now? What did you eat for lunch on March 4th, 2016?
>make your brain squeeze the trigger.Nigga you can already do that
>>65372917but i didnt have lunch that day
>>65372917Noodles and cheese.
>>65372375>It will work quite well for helping paraplegics and allowing people to control robot parts with their brains.It won't even work for that. There's been exactly 0 progress on figuring out a way to keep the brain from rejecting a permanent implant. It's very good at recognizing foreign body intrusions and isolating them with scar tissue,
How would this help things? You can already pull a trigger and if we're talking about wireless commands than it can be jammed which opens up a whole other world of suffering.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmjn_vrShmU
>>65373756I'm not going to get into cell biology but the immune system of the brain works differently from the rest of the body and that's naturally going to cause unexpected problems. However it, like the immune system elsewhere, will respond to chemical signaling to chill the fuck out (easier said than done). The purpose of early stages of the tech, testing on paraplegics and the like, is to identify and address those problems. >>65372913Other anons pointed out that humans do compress their memories, but realistically speaking if you're making the investment into a hypothetical digital consciousness transfer, would it really be that big of a deal to invest in petabytes of storate to go with it? Especially in 2050 or whenever this technology matures.>>65371770Biologics are, in general, more efficient than synthetics. They're just vastly more complex, and people tend to ignite media frenzies any time anyone does some real biological mad science.>>65371596>>65371691Consider the following: in old age, your cognitive function will decline. Your brain volume too. Even if you live a very healthy life and take steps to keep your cognition intact later on, you will progressively lose neurons in your later years. If you have strokes, head injuries, micro-vascular complications, or dementia, this will accelerate.At what point does grandpa stop being the same person? After a stroke that kills off parts of his brain? Middle stage Alzheimer's, when he still has some memories but has lost a lot of them? At what stage do you put him down like a dog, because he's no longer a person? Most people will say that you never truly stop being the same person, even if you change, or perhaps only in late stage dementia where you truly lose everything. If you agree with that, then you implicitly agree with the transfer-of-consciousness model, because it operates on the same principle - the underlying machinery has changed, but it's still been the same person all this time.
>>65371090> the necessity to destroy the original body to rebuild a copy atom by atomDestructive scanning doesn't have any real basis in reality, it's just a sci fi trope to make things simpler
>>65371578>It typically takes about 7 years to do the full refresh of every single cell in the bodyThere is no full refresh of every single cell in the body as many cells are never replaced.
>>65374060True but tbf in the past 10-20 years a lot of the supposedly immortal and irreplaceable cell lines were found to be neither of those things. But obviously things like postganglionic motor nerves aren't getting replaced, though they can often still heal.
>>65374067I just want an ear unfucking serum that regrows your ear bits
>>65374074Possible in theory but will never ever happen because a cochlear implant is a superior solution that is way cheaper and already mature
>>65374079>cochlear implant is a superior solutionNTASurely repairing/regrowing human tissue is going to be superior to an implant.
>>65374083It's not, and this has to do with how the cochlear nerve functions. The part of the ear that is damaged by loud noises or degrades with age is a complex little structure that is the very end of the chain of neurological structures that allows you to hear. Generally, everything else in that chain is working fine, even in people born deaf. A cochlear implant is a 1:1 replacement for that end-of-chain structure that performs an identical function: converting sound waves into precise, patterned stimulation of the cochlear nerve. I guess it was wrong to say it's better in general, it's better in some ways and worse in others compared to natural hearing, but these are subtle and qualitative differences.This stands in contrast to most human body structures, which are superior to any artificial replacements we can make for them. Other exceptions include certain titanium joint replacements, which are just simply stronger than natural joints (but they come with caveats too)
>>65372798>he certainly larps as oneWow he’s so crazy good at larping that even the engineers he discusses technical concepts with every day all believe he’s a good engineer.Get real nigga, real life isn’t some funny sitcom, there’s been plenty of oppertunities for the people he’s had fallings out with to “expose” how he knows nothing about engineering and none of them have done it yet, people are simply multifaceted, especially autists that were abused by their parents as a child. Dude’s a capable engineer, just a horrible person.
>>65370788https://x.com/neuralink/status/2080405463649100114Swap wheel chair with machine gun/bazooka/tanks/cars/etc
>>65374158>there’s been plenty of oppertunities for the people he’s had fallings out with to “expose” how he knows nothing about engineeringAnd they have.
>>65371072Why not? Parapelgics and their families and probably states are 100% going to be spending a lot of money on anything that let's them interact with the world again, not to mention any further developments that lets people control elevator buttons with their mind or whatever.
>>65371590the problem is that dunning Kruger goes both ways, so while musk makes a big fuss, the people doing the fundamental work are not skilled at self promotion.
>>65374704>the problem is that dunning Kruger goes both waysI don't think it does.Are you sure you know what Dunning Kruger refers to?
>>65374710Not him, yes it does, do you? People with a moderate level of knowledge rate their ability relatively highly compared to what they actually know, people with a high level of knowledge rate their ability relatively lowly compared to what they actually know.Also people with no knowledge and people with extreme knowledge rate their ability very lowly and very highly respectively.I can't think of any way "goes both ways" wouldn't be correct.
>>65374686>and they haveNo they haven’t lol, tom mueller certainly hasn’t and he’d have more oppertunity to expose him than anyone else.Just admit you know nothing about the subject and stop humiliating yourself, you’re trying to force an alternate reality into existence and it’s not working.
>>65375793>No they haven’t lolYes they have lol
>>65372405idk who you're trying to impress but curling 120 lb at a 90 degree angle and holding it as depicted there is pretty superhuman. even elite power lifters have to use some momentum with 100 lbs. i'm welcome to be proven wrong though if you can post a video of you doing that with 120 lbs
>>65370788Knowing Melon's incompetence, it'd probably just fry your brain.>>65370948Based.
>>65375951You must embrace your karma to break the cycles of guilt.
>>65375874No, they haven’t LMAO.go and speak to anyone working at spacex or formely working at spacex and they’ll tell you a very different story from the fanfiction you keep going on about.
>>65375951>melon’s incompetenceSee>>65372378>>65374158>>65375793I think you people need serious help because you’ve trapped yourself in a psychosis where everyone you consider a meanie is dumb and stupid.that’s simply not true. elon musk is an engineer, he makes engineering decisions, and his companies are succesful.
>>65376133>No, they haven’t LMAOYes, they have LMAO
>>65376157>n-noI accept your concession.
>>65376195>y-yesI accept your concession.
>>65376219Doesn’t work the other way around, i provided actual evidence and points, you have not.Because mentally ill retards like you have ego problems in the modern age, and are not capable of accepting that you are wrong and apologizing saying>sorry, i was wrong, and i have no arguments leftThe concession system was created.Because you have no arguments and because the only thing you’re doing is mindbrokenly going no u, you have automatically conceded the argument and accepted surrender. This requires no input from you, you are free to continue screeching at the screen and trying very desperately to sound smug and unimpressed, but you have already officially declared your loss through this behaviour.I accept your concession and your surrender.
>>65376234>The concession system was created.lol, it's hilarious when /pol/tards declare that they made rules everyone has to follow.>you have already officially declared your lossLike, officially?btw you lost the game
>>65376247>/pol/tard I am not a nu/pol/tard, unlike you.I never use nu/pol/.I have respect for elon musk as a person, he is a bad person.You have lost your mind over one slight deviation from the alternate reality lala land you have created.You have conceded by refusing to partake in the argument in good faith and just repeating what the other party is saying but flipped.>rules that everybody has to followIt’s a simple fact of life that you concede an argument when you stop arguing, because you ran out of arguments.You stopped arguing, because you no longer knew what to say, so you resorted to shitflinging and posting like a toddler who just had his candy taken away.>inb4 d-didn’t readI accept your surrender and your concession.
>>65376263*have no respect
>>65376263>You have conceded by refusing to partake>because you ran out of argumentsYou didn't make any to respond to. Just unsubstantiated opinions and grandiose absolutist claims without basis and which you yourself do not believe to be true.
>>65376279I did, you just ignored them and went>n-no uI accept your concession.
>>65376290>I accept your acceptance of my concession.That's very decent of you anon.I accept your acceptance of my acceptance of your concession.
>>65376279Just for the hell of it, because watching you get mad for no reason over nothing is enjoyable:Tom mueller: “Not true, I am an advisor now. Elon and the Propulsion department are leading development of the SpaceX engines, particularly Raptor. I offer my 2 cents to help from time to time"When the third chamber cracked, Musk flew the hardware back to California, took it to the factory floor, and, with the help of some engineers, started to fill the chambers with an epoxy to see if it would seal them. “He’s not afraid to get his hands dirty,” Mueller said. “He’s out there with his nice Italian shoes and clothes and has epoxy all over him. They were there all night and tested it again and it broke anyway.” Musk, clothes ruined, had decided the hardware was flawed, tested his hypothesis, and moved on quickly.Kevin Watson:“Elon is brilliant. He’s involved in just about everything. He understands everything. If he asks you a question, you learn very quickly not to go give him a gut reaction.He wants answers that get down to the fundamental laws of physics. One thing he understands really well is the physics of the rockets. He understands that like nobody else. The stuff I have seen him do in his head is crazy.He can get in discussions about flying a satellite and whether we can make the right orbit and deliver Dragon at the same time and solve all these equations in real time. It’s amazing to watch the amount of knowledge he has accumulated over the years.“
>>65376298Garret Reisman:“I first met Elon for my job interview,” Reisman told the USA TODAY Network's Florida Today. “All he wanted to talk about were technical things. We talked a lot about different main propulsion system design architectures.“At the end of my interview, I said, ‘Hey, are you sure you want to hire me? You’ve already got an astronaut, so are you sure you need two around here?’ ” Reisman asked. “He looked at me and said, ‘I’m not hiring you because you’re an astronaut. I’m hiring you because you’re a good engineer.’ ”“He’s obviously skilled at all those different functions, but certainly what really drives him and where his passion really is, is his role as CTO,” or chief technology officer, Reisman said. “Basically his role as chief designer and chief engineer. That’s the part of the job that really plays to his strengths."“What's really remarkable to me is the breadth of his knowledge. I mean I've met a lot of super super smart people but they're usually super super smart on one thing and he's able to have conversations with our top engineers about the software, and the most arcane aspects of that and then he'll turn to our manufacturing engineers and have discussions about some really esoteric welding process for some crazy alloy and he'll just go back and forth and his ability to do that across the different technologies that go into rockets cars and everything else he does.”Josh Boehm:“Elon is both the Chief Executive Officer and Chief Technology Officer of SpaceX, so of course he does more than just ‘some very technical work’. He is integrally involved in the actual design and engineering of the rocket, and at least touches every other aspect of the business (but I would say the former takes up much more of his mental real estate). Elon is an engineer at heart, and that’s where and how he works best.“
>>65376300He has at least two employees, yes.
>65376317It's so bizarre the way that he attracts fanbois like you who defend him on the most nonsensical points.If you devoted half as much effort to reading his critics as well as his literal employees and others who profit from his goodwill or can't afford to antagonise him, you'd be a much more informed person.Instead of a lolcow.
Besides many many both current and former spacex engineers, very intelligent, capable engineers with notable names such as john carmack have corroborrated elon musk’s status as an engineer.He is also an elected member of the NAE, amongst other notable members like Neil Armstrong, Noel Wayne Anderson and Simon Ramo.
>>65376330>>65376317>>65376300All of this you will completely sidestep and cry like a little bitch about, because you have no actual arguments to respond with and obsession with elon musk is more important than reality, Elon Derangement Syndrome has thrown you completely off the deep end.It took me a few minutes to look this shit up, i do not like elon musk and have condemned a lot of his behaviour already but i MUST be a bootlicker i MUST be a fanboi because all the evidence i am giving you just doesn’t line up with your delusions.There is something about this guy that makes some people like you go crazy and start pulling your hairs out, i don’t know what makes him special compared to other billionaires who have done evil shit, but you really need to go see a doctor.
>>65371058That's what it is ACTUALLY going to do, but Elon and the rest of his psychopath billionaire friends really think its going to make them into immortal gods.
>>65376329>y-you’re a lolcow!I don’t throw hissy fits because my imaginary version of reality is rejected, that’s you.I am not a musk fanboyI am not a /pol/ userI am very calmly and methodically watching you tear your own psyche apart over publically available knowledge.
>>65372917>How do you think memories work now? What did you eat for lunch on March 4th, 2016?One of the prevailing theories of memory is that we never actually forget anything, it just becomes inaccessible to our conscious mind.
>NO NOT REDEEM THE ELON SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR>DO THE NEEDFUL AND MAKE HIM #1 IN PATH OF EXILE!
>>65376353>randomly starts screeching again>not>one>argument>adressed>NOOOOOOO SAR U MUST BE FANBOY U ARE DOING OF KNOWLEDGE THAT IS NOT NEEDFUL SIR U LOVE ELON U LOVE ELON U LOVE ELOOOOON!i don’t sorry, he’s a terrible person and in don’t like him, but you need to take your lithium.I accept your complete and total surrender.
>>65376358Holy shit you completely mindbroke that guy, i guess elon derangement syndrome is real.
