Was there any actual benefit to iaijutsu? I'm sure it didn't help against guns.
>>65372329Iaijutsu is the sport, you are thinking of iaido, which is considered the apex of skill in Japanese sword technique.Its main application is self defence, it doesn't have any use in battle because swords are typically already drawn before you meet your opponent
>>65372329>Was there any actual benefit to iaijutsu?The benefit back then was the same as for people who practice drawing their guns now. If you meet someone with a similar weapon to yours, being able to draw it first is a huge advantage.
>>65372329makes a lot of sense if you are a high enough ranking samurai or general.Depending on the era at a certain point you probably won't actually see combat in a battle, or if you do the battle is already lost. The 100 times more likely situation that's likely to happen is you are meeting with your vassals or another lord and they try and assassinate you, or chilling in your castle when a random ninja or assassin attacks which is where being able to draw your weapon and attack as quickly as possible might save you life.
>>65372329>not training to slice incoming bullets in halfngmi
>>65372329Swordsmanship in the modern world serves no purpose as a self-defense system. It's benefits today are limited to cultural preservation and maybe some light exercise to get you off your fat ass. It's a just a hobby now. You're better off learning MMA or boxing if you want to defend yourself.
>>65373019it's all fun and games until you get attacked and the only weapon on hand is the decorative sword on the wall
>>65373039>until you get attacked and the only weapon on hand is the decorative sword on the wallProvide one example IRL of this happening in the last, idk, 100 years.
>>65373049A 71-year-old Seattle homeowner used a samurai sword to defend himself against a pitchfork-wielding burglar who had broken into his house over the weekend, authorities said.Officers responded around 1:30 p.m. Sunday to a report of a residential burglary in the 2100 block of Beacon Avenue South and detained two men, Seattle police said.The victim, still holding a samurai sword, had visible injuries, while the other man had a stab wound to his torso, according to police.The bloodied victim can be heard on officer-worn bodycam video obtained by FOX13 Seattle telling police his house had been burglarized.“He was inside my house, and he attacked me with a pitchfork,” the victim, whose name was not released, said of the suspect. “I grabbed the samurai sword and defended myself with the samurai sword.”
>>65372329It's sword yoga. It helps you train you to use a sword and makes you more limber. The kendo lessons that it is often paired with are typically more important for actual combat use.>>65373049Funny story. A robber broke into a sensei's house, and shen confronted, took off one of the swords on the wall and started threatening him. That's when the sensei grabbed another sword off the wall...
iaido was the aiwb high speed cc'er culture of the edo period
>>65372376You got that backwards, on account of being a complete fucking idiot. The sport is -do, the skill is -jutsu. That's why you take an idaido class, not an iaijutsu class. It's why the SPORT is kenDO, not kenjutsu. The SPORT is juDO, not jujutsu.
>>65372329It's more a self-defense thing, like practicing quick draws. Certainly, it intimidated western travelers that recommended you carry two revolvers on hand just in case you were attacked by a Japanese swordsman.
>>65372376>>65373118Iaijutsu is just the different techniques used for iai. Iaido is the structured study of iai.
>>65373066>kendo lessons that it is often paired with are typically more important for actual combat use.Very wrong. Kendo is 100% a sport. Everything about it. Techniques like tenuchi make zero sense from the perspective of actual fighting, as is stomping your feet as you land a strike, which is required for scoring a point. Even the guards are designed for sport, not combat. The dunning kruger in this thread is absurd.
>>65372329Is it him?Is that Max Resdefault?
>>65372329Situational awareness is far better, this is clearly a "skill" born of desperation where your only option is to strike first and effectively, in this case you have likely already lost for a multitude of reasons. Being so aware that you can ambush your enemies before they force you into an altercation is better than any martial ability. Being an underhanded fuck that cheats is the GOAT when it comes to real fighting.
>>65372329It was useful in its intended role of impromptu duels between sumarai who got into minor arguments post Waring states period. It is absolutely worthless in a context where the other guy has armor, has a weapon drawn or otherwise isn't also scrambling for his sword because you implied his Daimyo had no honor or whatever else peacetime Samurai murdered each other over. It's modern equivalent is rapidly drawing your switch to defend your honor at a block party. Both have no battlefield use and any formalized method is mostly larp. However one is from Japan so weebs love it.
>>65372329>Was there ever a benefit to practicing drawing a weapon faster?
>>65374369>Being an underhanded fuck that cheats is the GOAT when it comes to real fighting.It's fucking hilarious kids still say this when 99% of fights end with the first clean punch that connects. Boxers stay infinitely winning over "I'll grab his nuts" gay boys.
>>65374518You know you can do both, right?
So I guess Karl studies the blade
>>65373049Anybody got the copypasta of the Swedish immigrant musketeer?
>>65374602Of course, but the fact is that the people who *say* 'I'll do both usually can't; they didn't practice any fundamentals.
>>65374518>I'll grab his nuts"More like, I'll have three friend with bats waiting outside, or pocket sand, or tied his shoe laces together. The point is to not put your finger on the scale, it's to drop a gun on the scale. You're still thinking (and probably fantasizing) about an honorable fight where your martial prowess matters. Cheating is planning ahead knowing how your opponent will act and using that against them.
>>65373704I shouldn't have laughed at this and it woke up my dog
>>65373136>Certainly, it intimidated western travelers that recommended you carry two revolvers on hand just in case you were attacked by a Japanese swordsman.Where did you get that from because I want to read it
>>65372329iai would have been useful in the Edo period when samurai went around growing cities unarmoured but were permitted to keep their swords, so there would often have been unarmoured duelspretty much the same conditions created Italian fencingand, arguably, cowboy shootouts. inasmuch as the real thing was, that is.>>65374470>It was useful in its intended role of impromptu duels between sumarai who got into minor arguments post Waring states periodthis
>>65374850Hahahahhaha Sorry sport but the guy like you doesn't get the gang, your pocket sand gets your nose broken, and I don't even have to make a joke about you tying someone's fucking shoelaces together it's too much of a joke in itself.
>>65373049Lmao there are actually a surprising amount of them: >13-year-old girl sliced a man in the face with a “samurai” sword to defend her motherhttps://www.wsmv.com/2026/06/23/teen-slices-man-with-samurai-sword-face-protect-mother-perry-county-sheriffs-office-says/>Pittsburgh Man tries to rob store with sword; finds clerk also has a swordhttps://globalnews.ca/news/2169438/watch-man-tries-to-rob-store-with-sword-finds-clerk-also-has-a-sword/>Pennsylvania man stabbed with samurai sword during home invasion attempthttps://abcnews.com/US/homeowner-samurai-sword-fight-off-armed-robber-pennsylvania/story?id=125670165>Johns Hopkins University student kills an intruder with a samurai swordhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/student-fells-intruder-with-samurai-sword>Woman uses Samurai sword to fight off home intruderhttps://globalnews.ca/news/2270558/indiana-woman-uses-medieval-combat-skills-sword-to-corner-intruder/I'm actually really surprised how frequently this seems to happen.
>>65375355It's because of Japanese media that uchigatanas got meme'd into something nerds buy. Periodically someone will use them in a home defense situation. They're not ideal, but even a cheaply made one is still a sharp slashing sword which will mess people up.I saw photos of the aftermath of an attempted home invasion where a guy took his uchigatana and went to town on the robbers. Hand sliced right open down the middle, ears cut off, slices all over their bodies. They panicked and ran out to their car, but they were losing so much blood they slumped over and passed out. Only got rescued by paramedics. I don't think they're ideal for home defese - I would say rapier and buckler are better.
>>65373702>Even the guards are designed for sport, not combat.You lost me here. The guards are the same as the European longsword guards. They're the same ones I learned in my koryu. Literally what are you talking about?
>>65372376I'm going with the AI slop because glorified word association is what it's actually built to do.
>>65375199HahahahahaSorry but a guy like you ends up paralyzed in a hospital bed because he thought he could handle himself in a fight. I get that you're just being contrarian and rage baiting, but you're just being stupid and based on your syntax, you're foreign.
>>65372329>Was there any actual benefit to iaijutsu?You are sitting on the floor at a fancy Japanese banquet with your sword either by your side or on your hip.Suddenly an assassin shows up.That's the idea behind it.
>>65375455NAYRT but Ai is text-predicting based on those Wikipedia pages and research articlesI have literally seen Ai claim the exact OPPOSITE of what an article stated, simply because the words were adjacent to a preceding contrasting clausethat is, an article said something like>although it is commonly believed that despite making up 13% of the population, chimps are responsible for 14% of chimp violence, studies found that they actually are responsible for 50%and Ai's report was:>despite making up only 13% of the population, chimps are actually responsible for 14% of chimp violenceI could see how Ai had sourced the words and also how it had jumbled them upin conclusion, every claim Ai provides must be checked against its source. it's literally worse than the average Wikipedia article.
>>65375409pursuing a robber with murderous intent after he escapes isn't considered aggravated assault?
>>65376244>pursuing a robber with murderous intent after he escapes isn't considered aggravated assault?no, it's community service franklyjokes aside, nowhere in that post did anon say the robbers were pursued
