Yo, which front we fightin' in boys?
>US advanced guard elements getting ambushed by rebels with QBZ-95 assault rifles and armored columns getting smashed by Kornet ATGM's mounted on the back of Ford Raptors while wearing dyed UCP uniforms with Mt. St. Helens in the backgroundAt least it would be aesthetic.
Everyone buys shitty Protech X-CAL LP plates from Gunbroker for thirty dollars
>>65390235what's the story with all the yellow circles being around major pop centers except the random two in north Idaho and the UP?
>>65390235Me and the boys are going clear water navy and hit and run tactics on any regular troops, foreign or domestic, in T1.
>>65390306I assume strategic travel points. Soo Locks are critical and I think that is Lookout Pass in ID.
>>65390235Buy a boat in Alaska then sail west. Lay anchor in Yongmingcheng and kill my way through Asia for the lulz
>>65390324ah I see, figured the mountain passes around the st joe nf had something to do with the ID part but wasn't sure about the UP and the great lakes
>>65390235this map is nonsensical, who the fuck is fighting whoget your shit in order
>>65390354Blood Meridian 2: Yellow Sun
>>65390382It's simply terrain that is most conducive to guerrilla warfare combined with basic strategic level key terrain. It's mad libs past that point anon i.e. have an imagination.
>Operation ALAS BABYLON>DTG: 210530ZMAY32>Bn. Mission: 1-7th Rifle ATK to SEIZE OBJ FARM to INFLUENCE peace negotiations. SP NLT 0800Z. >Commanders Intent: Seize the silo fields to gain leverage against the tyrants to bring an end to this conflict. One way or another.>My live reaction:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKRkAEjjhpE
>>653902352nd civil war would be every inner city area vs the rest of the country not this whole side of the country vs the other wise
>>65390413okay but there's a very loaded political question that needs to be answered with the title "second american civil war" that needs to be answered.If you're just highlighting the best spots for guerilla warfare that's a different map. If we were to create a hypothetical wargame for a second american civil war the political context of the war will create the initial conditions, constraints etc. that will actually set up the war. The civil war wasn't about the south gooning around in the appalachians for no reason, the war began because the institution of slavery (which was predominately practiced in the south) was under threat by the rising political tide of free labor. That they happened to encompass large portions of the appalachian mountains was pure coincidence.If this hypothetical second civil war were about rethuglicans vs demonrats, then maybe we'd start with the fronts near / around blue states and then try to start answering questions about what state / federal military assets are in each state at the beginning of the conflict, and where their loyalty would likely lie.In short, the scenario makes the map, not the other way around, and OP you are a nogunz faggot.
>>65390445I'm sure it'll start out like that. But once the supply lines are severed. The conflict drags on for years where most of the population is directly effected by it, it will most likely escalate to entire regions beginning to splinter along whatever political/cultural lines that are rupturing. So yeah, it'll start like that, but it'll end with entire armored divisions all claiming to be legitimate successors smashing into each other as whole regions are in flames. Especially for a modern industrialized country like the US. Self sufficiency is borderline nonexistent even on the local level. Things most likely wont even escalate because of some culture war BS but instead just to keep total collapse at bay by acquiring resources through political alliances and by force. tl;dr Fry the brain and Cletus & Bob shooting blue helmets is how it'll start. But once there's no more food in the grocery stores and it's not some kid on CNN laying in the street but your own brother or friend. It will end by making the two great wars look like a fucking joke.
>>65390235I'll wait it out.t. Iowa chad
>>65390463>Economic downswing in the late 2020's, early 2030's leads to great depression levels of turmoil >Ideological protests turn to riots leading to reprisals as certain cities law enforcement lose effective control>NG/active duty military forces deployed to reestablish peace>This leads to outrage on both sides of the ideological spectrum>Local firefights erupt which leads to full on pandemonium. All sides blame each other.>Leftist ideologues initially dominate and soon direct their anger outside of the cities into the suburbs>The violence finally pushes the right over the edge. The violence turns to ethnic violence>The situation deteriorates so quickly that the weak willed federal government requests UN peacekeeping forces to step in to serve as a third party middleman>Riots turn to low level insurgencies as blue helmets start to get ambushed and local law enforcement begins to splinter and factionalize>Federal government escalates by federalizing all NG and begins sending orders down the pipe to seize effected areas "by any means".>Local military forces begin to factionalize with many not wanting to engage their own people, others wanting to join one of the sides, and many not liking the involvement of UN forcesCont...
>>65390504>Skirmishes begin to break out between military, UN and rioter factions>The violence reaches a point of no return, reason no longer prevails>As effective command and control of military forces at the state and federal levels becomes shaky. Large portions of the population are now feeling the direct effects of the fighting>A new wave slowly rises in the US. Less concerned with the ideological talking points and more concerned with both survival and the elimination of the rest of the population they no longer deem as their own>The war continues to escalate as now new leadership emerges attempting to rally military and paramilitary forces within regions stating their own objectives>The year is 2032, the lines in the sand have been drawn and blood has already been spilt >The fight for America has begun: you're on your own now, good luck.
>>65390499>Get's raped by steppe barbariansNothin' personal
I know nogs are retarded, but do you think they’re retarded enough that they can be convinced that blue helmets are actually members of the Crips?
>>65390638They would need to be troops from Africa. Or France.
>>65390467It will be exactly like the great depression and the only way leftist will have any sustainability is if other countries get involved most territory in conservative red
>>65390382>nonsensicalMakes sense to me, I'm fighting against everybody! Are you me? No? Fuck you! I hate you already, shooting at you isn't a problem.
Now that I think about it. It is pretty how how good the Northern US and Southern Canada actually is for guerrilla warfare. It's massive with pretty much everywhere serving as a place to hide everything from weapons caches to patrol bases to full blown NVA tunnel and bunker base camps for hundreds if not thousands of fighters. Forests makes ISR and drones dogshit and you can fuck off to pretty much anywhere or conduct large scale operational maneuver to entirely new areas of operations. And it's not like you have to infiltrate through a DMZ like the southern border. Especially in the Rockies portion. That shit would straight up be Afghanistan tier mountain fighting.
>>65390650>I'll shoot anyone who isn't meBased tbqhwy
>>65390712Something else most forget about the PNW is how resource rich it is. Lots of water, fish, wild game and flora. The terrain is very conducive to a gurilla fighter as well as containing the resources to maintain them.
>>65390235Between the Enclave, Robots and Spiders i'm thinking the Midwest Super Mutants are where its at.
>>65390235The South, now and always.Also the White Patriot Party loadout (BDUs/RDF fatigues, Confederate flag patches, ALICE gear, A2-style ARs and Mini-14s) is /k/ino, fight me.
>>65390933You can say that about most of the zones on the map.
>>65390908You're ok, I'll let you live. The password is Flying Tiger.
This reminds me of the wargame thread a couple years back where Portland, Seattle and San Francisco formed some faction called P.S.S. cause it sounds like piss but anon's quickly realized how fucking brutal an actual conflict would be moving through the ABQ corridor or through Montana and Idaho through a place called Butte.
More of Armatard and Warriortard using yankland’s embarrassing first amendment to push demoralization??? Or op thinks anyone will be fooled by this methodchka
>>65391122>wargaming threads being a staple of /k/ since forever>bringing up tripfags no one cares about anymore>just can't help himself to bring up some nu/k/ Ukraine war faggotry wordingStop ruining fun things with shit nobody cares about.
>>65390235For the great plains how beneficial would it be having the ability to ride a horse and throat sing?
Data mining thread
>>65391221>anon's larping about being steppe barbarians with pickup trucks>data mining
>>65390283I got 30 just because. I can armor doors and shit, stacking two negates the shit quality.
>>65390235I wish only to become River Lord of the Erie Canal. I prefer to nework and build community but also follow the theory of "blow the area up once". Quick booms saturation and COWABUNGA! Get shit done then get back on the canal. I will have marines and drones, but like any good product of the 80s I will be retard-welded to a concept.
>>65391125Can't tell if you are too dumb or just a troll that replies to his own post: but that was an very obvious false flag post.Inb4>i dont care i'm still mad at those that the troll wants me to be mad at and not the troll
>>65390463The political context is best fictionalized to make for interesting geographic theaters. For example imagine how kino a Toyota war would be between various prairie groups, or Afghanistan style combat between federal holdouts and a mormon kingdom up in the rockies would be. I propose that a Pepsi/coke divide spirals until it tears the nation apart, and leads to the splintering of the union Chinese warlord style.This would also allow us avoid the grim notion of Americans dying for either side of our current political system.
>>65391352> I propose that a Pepsi/coke divide spirals until it tears the nation apartI stan the Cheerwine Confederacy
>>65391298You will help us gentrify Detroit or we will send them your way and pollute the waters.
>>65390235Would it really be like that? I can imagine a second civil war in America would just be bands of african-style warlords and gangs roaming around and carrying out their most twisted fantasies upon those they grew to hate so much over the years of built-up anger I can see that happening, hell breaks loose, total chaos, neighbors being left-wing/right-wing and they secretly or openly hated you because of your political views, your opinions or just angry at you because of how loud your car is in the morning, and now it's the perfect time to just come up to your house and murder you because they can get away with it now
>>65390235>Chicago all by itself>Because it controls all the territory that's currently not a theater, uncontested.
Going to Mexico is my game plan. Y'all can deal with that shit.
>supply lines>through BCDo nothing, win
If a civil war does happen, One side will just take the opportunity to kill all chinese or kill all mexicans, and they'd have enough power to just start taking mexican land. It's bold to assume america will be weaker during a civil war
>>65392755Inshallah you shall be executed for your cowardice when you try to return
>>65392762>Arizona-baijanis and Nevada-stanis realise they can keep as much dessert as they can take>all thet have to do is shoot mexicans>its free real estate
>>65392792Wait, we get LAND too?!Here I was doing it for free.
>>65392769Civil War #2 would probably be really retarded and people would just mag dump each other over who they voted for in the previous election without any other motives.The only Civil War I'd fight in would be if it was the American people against a tyrannical government, not Americans VS Americans. I'll keep my sombrero and Spanish dictionary handy if it's a dumb reason for the Civil War.
>>65392762>>65392792>>65392824>America fractures into civil war>The world cheers>Factions invade Canada and Mexico>Nuclear armed vessels go rouge>Sabatoge forces killed by irregular forces they armed>geography creates natural borders regional fags accept like historic nativesCould be a fun time tbf.
>>65392843I can't with people who say any war would be a "fun time". There would be glory at best, but it wouldn't be like an action movie or paintball game, just saying.
>be EuropeanSo what's the trick to not getting shot on my first peacekeeping mission?>>65392843How we laughed as the Mormons got nuclear weapons... How we laughed.
>65392868First of all fuck ALL tripfags no (you) for you and 2nd you little faggot you don't know me, being a dried up GWOT fag I think war is a damn good time.Pic related.
>>65392882Defection. Proclaim how thankful you are to leave the Islamic Caliphate of Eurpoia (preferably with equipment) and we'll take ya in.
>>65392922>GWOT >war is a damn good timeYeah cus you stood around for a while in Afghanistan doing nothing and then went home.
>>65390235>My war is a war of extermination -Jim LaneWe will finish what our ancestors started. YOU HEAR ME MISSOURI? THE CHIEFS ARE OURS!
>>65391501Bonus: the Pepsi side will use the Worst Korean at first for their airforce. The Coke side will be using aircraft with obvious area rule.
>>65392831>The only Civil War I'd fight in would be if it was the American people against a tyrannical government, not Americans VS Americans.This man is a patriot.
>>65393174No tripfag is a patriot.
>>65393174Leftists are not Americans, they are not even human.
>>65390953What game is that?
>>65391125>>65391073A few months ago. The same zigger spam accounts were amplifying cherry picked events in the UK and repeating the same “please do a civil war” narrative. Now and the same narrative is presented with the US in the center, but it’s just playing a game?, but sure, everybody can see what OP is doing and why.
>>65393174>"If my country is having problems, I'll leave!"Sure sign of a patriot
>>65391327Anon, what the fuck are you even saying at this point? Why even open the thread if you're going to be this much of a faggot?
>>65392831>The only Civil War I'd fight in would be if it was the American people against a tyrannical governmentEvery civil war has always been fought between the people. That's what makes it a civil war anon.
>>65393592I don't want to hear about your Ukraine war delusions. Wargaming threads have always been here. OP doesn't even state any politics whatsoever.
>>65390235The idea that SanFran/Oakland are not in a theater is absolutely ridiculous.
>>65393511It's a Fallout mod for some version of Hearts of Iron II, like Darkest Hour or Arsenal of Democracy if it isn't base HoI2.
>>65392882>So what's the trick to not getting shot on my first peacekeeping mission?Just stay in the peaceful areas and take lots of pictures.
New faction just dropped:>"The North shall rise, eh? Ya, no no ya, for sure, sorry."
>>65393900>Regiments 1-6 skipped as honorary to those who have already fallen before the formal establishment of the MWC> Local militia forces from platoons to companies and even a few battalions in or around most civpop areas within its territory>Rifle regiments act as a hybrid force only holding certain key terrain and trench lines with most activity being more so irregular warfare (NVA shit) operating out of the massive forested areas>Exception being the Dakota forces and parts of the IW-MWC who operate in a more motorized fashion >Supplied by partial industry based within its territory and also receives weapon shipments from mostly China and some from Russia coming from the North via the Hudson Bay. Mostly armed with US weapons but beginning to be heavily supplemented by Russian-Chinese hardware, especially in regards to specialty and heavy weapons (ATGM's, artillery pieces)>Air force comprised of remnants of multiple ANG forces culminating in two fighter squadrons of F16's and two squadrons of AH-64 gunships with various number of Blackhawks and Chinooks that were taken
>>65391327Shut up F4GG0T.Here is what happen in my version of this conflict.1. I'm going to strafe you with my US Coast gaurd hind.2. Depoly my elite squad of dirlewanger-esque rape commandos.3. ???4. Profit
>>65391125>Spontaneously seething about Ukraine even though not a single person in the thread mentioned it>Instantly reacting with threatened hyper defensiveness to a claim that wasn't even directed at you>Writing in that telltale whiny, catty and faggy tone of yours Yeah it's you again. I take it that you got bullied out of /meg/ as usual and are now looking for someplace else to soothe your feelings? Here's a hint, stop using the same exact language and talking points in your seethe posts if you don't want to be so readily identifiable.>>65393672There it is again. You are literally the only faggot ITT histrioncally bringing up ukies out of nowhere just to seethe about them kek.Civil war threads and nuclear war threads seem to be your preferred emotional refuges it seems.
>>65394791Shut the fuck up, tourist scum.
>>65394817You came here as a 2016 election migrant. You're the tourist lmao, and a literal confirmed redditor.
>>65394791>>65394832Get a load of this guy over here
>>65393663>>65393967>you make a troll post or reply to it excatly how the troll wants>it gets called out>you mad and make a hurr durr post>nobody is surprised more news at eleven
>>65395271Update the script sgt.
a government always picks a side in civil war and it's always the group with the most resource controlI said in another thread you homesteaders think SHTF won't affect you, and that you're just larping.i'll add to thatonly thing you're gonna do is make things worse
>>65395279>troll reply because he can't handle the truth or actually form a counter argumentAnd it was a schizo as predicted.
>>65391125>>65393672>that off-topic seething over UkraineThe last 4 years have done an absolute number on your mental health.
absolutely no fun allowed huh? pic-related is probably why.
>>65396026It was really intriguing to watch them pick this thread to derail, with the strangely scripted posts about Russia and the powerpoint / leftist style “memes”.
>>65395990fascinating. on one hand I'm glad he found a happy place on the other I'm glad to know the fuck is in fact a sick fuck
>>65395990Thanks for the QRD. Now the off topic seething about Ukraine and the samefags are making sense.
>these guys ruin every fucking threadWhy are you guys even here?
>>65396048>>65396104>>65396026There he goes again, aggressively and desperately samefagging to try and make it appear as though there is some cool kids club on /k/ that agrees with his mentally deranged nonsense. The weirdest part is that after all these years of being laughed out of every single thread, he genuinely thinks that he's managed to fool people here.
>>65396195This is low quality bait.
>>65394832Every accusation is a confession.
>>65390235Too loose on the scenario to be useful, really, unless you're expecting other people to do most of the work for you.
>>65390436Aryan taste
>>65396347>Waaaaaaaa, this board is not usable to groom americanski to talk about a second civil warTough shit, Ivan.
>>65396350I just gave a general context sort of thing with the rest being more of a build your own. I feel like it's really only one of two ways to talk about wargaming with a subject like this, either mad libs style or building a super detailed story. I chose the former.
>>65390235>Russian supply lines
>>65396317>>65396347>The meltie continuesOP sounds extra shirty this time because his wildberries deliveries are delayed
>>65392843>the world cheers>as the world economy crashes harder than the Great Depression A US civil war would essentially be the Dark Ages 2:Europe is turbo screwed.
>>65390235>Yo, which front we fightin' in boys?anon your map really does suckmost of the fighting will occur in the densley populated north eastfrom Lakewood NJ up to Portland MEthat is your main corridor of guns in the streets
>>65397839You have identified the appeal of this fantasy to the vatniks and failed western males like OP who tried to troll /meg/ and got bullied. It is mostly wishcasting a scenarios where they think America will delinquent on its obligations to Europe and NATO to collapse. It is the same reason for his MAGA Greenland larping.
>>65390235Incelallah, we shall reclaim what is rightfully ours.
>>65398711Can you at least type proper English sentences when pushing your schizo rants?
>>65390235>wargameMy army consists of 20,000 pissed off unarmed rednecks that know how to operate backhoes and are loyal to me until death.In one week every cell tower will be down, every rail line ripped up, every bridge collapsed and every road blocked in a 500 mile radius.I win.
>>65393720Thanks
>>65393174Non-whites cannot be American and the government certainly isn't white.
>>65399196>>65402060>bumps thread twice approximately 24 hours apart Try to be less obvious
>>65398801I see the Natalie Mars division is prepared.
>>65391007Sherman 2.0, burning my way to the sea again. You clearly didn't learn after the first time.
