>>65390749
I'm not smart or knowledgeable enough to participate but I'll give you a bump cause I wanna read le funny stories

US army requested "Tootsie Rolls" during a major battle in the Korean War and a risky air drop was performed to drop supplies for these soldiers. When they opened the crates they found hundreds of chocolate Tootsie Rolls, not the 88mm mortar shells commonly known as Tootsie Rolls. American forces had to pullback eventually.

Japanese forces attacked the Chinese in the 30's because they thought the Chinese had captured and killed one of their soldiers on the border. What actually happened is the soldier had gone for a shit in the middle of the night and got lost for a day. He eventually found his way back but the two forces had already fought and the war started.

Frederick Browning ignored aerial photographs showing active German panzer divisions near Arnhem, dismissing the tanks as broken down. This misinterpretation led to heavily outmatched airborne troops dropping right into an enemy armour concentration

Joseph Stalin discarded explicit warnings from his own border guards, British intercepts, and his top spy Richard Sorge regarding Germany's impending invasion. Stalin convinced himself the reports were British tricks and left his forces completely unready. He continued to ignore British intercepts and reports sent to him and had to rely on his 'spies' (who were all known by MI5 and deliberately fed info) in the UK to confirm what the 'real truth' was, even though it always matched the official information given by the UK government to him. It was this information that allowed him to win Stalingrad.

>>65391294
Also in Korean War a British unit was under pressure. When Americans checked on them they said "they were in a bit of difficulty", American completely missed the understatement and didn't think their position was urgent and desperate and they were soon pushed out.

Israeli intelligence misread massive Egyptian and Syrian troop buildups along the borders as routine military exercises just before the Yom Kippur War. This led to a surprise attack and heavier losses than they would have suffered.

Same can also be said of the Ukraine War, despite British and American intelligence telling Ukrainians what was going to happen they believed the French and German intelligence (and Russian tricks) that it was all just 'posturing'. The French ended up firing the head of their intelligence group.

>>65391343
The British said "situation is a bit sticky here" which was British 'slang' for 'everything is FUBAR here' and the American's misunderstood it to mean 'things are underpressure but we're alright'. It led to the Glorious Gloucesters stand where they held out against human waves until they literally had nothing but rifle butts and bayonets left, they killed thousands of Chinese but had to pull back. It was actually a major reason despite the UN forces pulling back that the Chinese went to the peace table because they thought 'if the British fight like that for every position, we'll have no army left by the end'.

The navigation log of the B-24 "Lady Be Good" reportedly ended at Naples—the bombing target—but was this a case of fatal negligence, or was it standard practice due to the capabilities of the automatic direction finder?

>>65391347
>Same can also be said of the Ukraine War, despite British and American intelligence telling Ukrainians what was going to happen they believed the French and German intelligence (and Russian tricks) that it was all just 'posturing'.
I don't think that's true, I think that's what was communicated, but in reality the fact that they didn't collapse immediately was because they were ready and moving.

>>65391347
>>65391391
the russian force assembled at the border was only 170k men strong. thats way to few for such a large country as ukraine. so it wasnt unreasonable to think its just a bluff.

>>65391391
We have since heard that they were strategically surprised because they did not believe the earlier American and British warnings. This was reinforced even during the rising tensions when the Russians conducted exercises, as it was assessed that they wouldn't be exercising immediately before an invasion. Usually, you'd want a couple of months after the exercise to reset, rearm and repair your troops.

Russian exercises:
>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/10/russia-belarus-military-drills-near-belarusian-border-ukraine

Hence the Ukrainians conducted their own exercises in response, partly for diplomatic posturing, partly so that they would be more ready if the Russians attack months later. However about 24 to 48 hours before the attack, around February 20 and 21, the invasion was confirmed.
Most media will report this 48 hours' notice as
>they were ready and moving
but in military terms it's not considered sufficient time. The standard NATO requirement is 30 days' notice. Even for the high readiness forces it is 1 week.

The Ukrainians also said that the "readiness" of some of their troops was because they had just finished their exercises. I read a couple of personal accounts and they talked about just returning to base and going on leave when the alarm went up. If you've ever gone out on ops or even just innawoods, that's actually not a great time because soldiers would be tired, or celebrating, and so on.
But because a few units had not yet demobbed and very quickly deployed with all their kit, it was spun as being "ready".

At least that's what I read.

Hence why I specified pre-45 examples, because a lot of the modern stuff is too unknown, the facts are still classified or uncertain.

>>65391428
Damn, imagine if Ukies were actually prepared.

>>65391391
>>65391409
Nobody builds field hospitals for exercises and transports masses of blood packs in. If you want to do an 'exercise' to pretend you are, you use stuff that isn't perishable or valuable (i.e, blood packs). As soon as that was done and confirmed, it should have been clear shit was going to happen. Remember, when the invasion ACTUALLY started the Russian's flooded communication lines into Ukraine going
>Nyet, th is is just exercise, do not fire it accident error )))))))
and then
>Don't fire, throw down arms, save yourself bear stronk ))))))
And this paralysed any reasonable response.

It didn't help that 5th Columnists in Europe were also screeching it was just Russia 'defending itself'. You had those from Ireland to Poland.

>>65391438
>It didn't help that 5th Columnists in Europe were also screeching it was just Russia 'defending itself'. You had those from Ireland to Poland.
It also didn't help that the EC had assessed that the Russians would not invade. It is claimed that this is part of the reason why Macron has a hard-on for fucking Russia; because he was their elected spokesnegotiator with Putin, and he felt personally betrayed. Reading between the lines, obviously Putin strung him along for a couple weeks, feeding him tons of bullshit and pretending to be successfully "talked down". Played him like Brigitte.

>>65390749
The British underestimating how badly their allies understood their uptight comms language.

>>65391450
Yeah we already covered that one.

>>65391457
They just have a pattern of it, A-10 fratricide against allied forces in Iraq was also due to that, somewhat. Not saying A-10 pilots aren't retards generally, but being clear helps bigly.

>>65391303
Sounds like an excuse they pulled to commence the attack into Manchuria, but a funny one nonetheless.

when the US took guam from the spanish, a single ship was sent. the ship fired at the spanish fort and missed. the spanish, not knowing they were at war with the US, thought they were rendering a salute and paddled out to apologize for not being able to respond. after the confusion was settled out the americans took the spanish as prisoners, instantly paroled them all, and left without even destroying anything as thr fort was already in extreme disrepair.

>>65391438
>If you want to do an 'exercise' to pretend you are, you use stuff that isn't perishable or valuable
what if you just use stuff that is already expired as a smoke screen because you think it's going to be a cake walk?
https://united24media.com/latest-news/this-nostalgia-is-dangerous-for-life-russia-equips-troops-with-1977-era-medical-kits-12152

No favourite historical examples? Medieval, antiquity?

>>65391342
How are they so buckbroken by the British

>>65391294
Marines called the 60mm mortar ammo Tootsie rolls.

And the candy came in clutch when they had to retreat as temperature caused the tootsie rolls to freeze solid and a lot of the fuel lines on their vehicles were leaking from cracks/breaks so the marines started chewing the tootsie rolls to make them soft and then used them as patches on said lines allowing their vehicles to run again.

Too tired to remember but spartacus had some blunder with movement which endes badly for him.

>>65392198
The Great Game never ends

>>65390749
The Somme, the great fuck up. Field Marshal Haig greatly underestimated the German's defenses, presuming them to be equal to the British trenches. The level of shelling used to soften the German position before the offensive started was grossly inadequate, a problem only exacerbated by the poor quality of the fired shells. It was a slaughter, there were 60,000 British casualties on the first day.

>>65393193
>He told the men to walk very slowly at the enemy, as walking slowly would 'make them harder to hit and intimidate the Germans'.
He then proceeded to this this multiple more times to the same effect, that is to say, they all got gunned down in minutes.

>>65391562
Not as bad as the Balkan Bottle Dildo.

>>65390749
Have an esoteric one I came across from the memoirs of the 89th Bombardment Squadron, 1943. Having cobbled an off-record plane together from three different wrecks, the "Steak & Egg Special" began flying grocery + R&R runs to Australia unburdened by usual Army procedures.

>"Although the fresh food and an opportunity for leave time in Sidney were welcomed, Steak and Eggs did manage to cause some distress as well. On one occasion, it managed to do something the enemy never could: stop the 89th cold. As Harris Ward recalls: “On one of the early trips of "The Steak & Egg Special" they brought back enough fresh potatoes to feed the entire squadron. The cook decided to make potato salad. We knew about it and were really looking forward to this special lunch. A few unlucky fellows had to stay with the planes while everyone else went to lunch. The potato salad was so good it all disappeared and the men staying with the planes did not get any. They were unhappy until the first of many started to feel bad in the middle of the afternoon. By suppertime everyone was violently sick including all the pilots. The only men who were not sick were the men who did not have any potato salad. The cooks had left the potato salad stand in aluminum containers. The entire squadron was out of commission and no one could make it to the flight line the following day. I don't think we did much the second day either. I remember thinking and saying I had to get better to be able to die. I couldn't eat potato salad for many years after that.”"

>>65393252
Holy shit, yeah. That was worse than Saddam invading Kuwait due to its ruler calling Iraqi women whores.

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Though it sounds like a classic tall tale of the E-4 mafia, they have the receipts for the boldest claim, Steak & Eggs herself.

>>65391303
Fucking hell.

>>65391391
Ukraine was moving a lot of assets east, they didn’t believe US/UK assertions of a full-blown attack and probably thought there would just be an escalation in the Donetsk region, not a full on invasion. They kept the 72nd mechanized brigade around Kyiv since it’s home base wasn’t far away and had some defensive positions set up but didn’t occupy them until after the invasion had started. Famously the only infantry troops at Antonov airport (one of the only airports in the area that could handle heavy lift transports) was the 4th rapid reaction brigade of the Ukie National Guard, all other troops stationed there had been moved east. The brigade only had 200-300 men at the time, most conscripts. The 4th not running and putting up a good fight allowed the 72nd Mechanized Brigade to move into Hostomel and deny Russia the airport on that first day, basically fucking a main part of Russia’s northern prong. Sorta crazy to think that had Russia been able to take that airport and then keep pouring in VDV over that first 24 hours they probably could have taken the entire north western flank of Kyiv and moved to threaten the southern flank on the 2nd day. But a few hundred national guards men fucked up their plans so they instead had to send the VDV in on foot, which ended with them being ground to pieces in suburbs that Russian planners thought would be taken on day one lol.

It’s also worth mentioning that Russia had just assumed on the first day of the war that the Ukie Air Force had been wiped out in their preemptive attack so didn't double tap highly vulnerable Ukraine airplanes that were still on the tarmac, nor did the Russians even damage the tarmac in their preemptive strikes lmao.

Overall Ukraine got very lucky in those first 24 hours. Their eastern defenses were top-notch but their northern and southern defenses were pretty shit, which was reflected by the fact Russia had their biggest gains in the north and south.

>>65393448
>4th rapid reaction brigade of the Ukie National Guard, all other troops stationed there had been moved east. The brigade only had 200-300 men at the time, most conscripts
Nah they ought to have had more troops, not only was the 4th the designated capital defence unit, it was also one of the best trained in the entire AFU as the first complete brigade to be trained in the new NATO doctrine. Which is exactly why it was defending Kyiv.

>>65391347
>Same can also be said of the Ukraine War
There was an even bigger blunder on the Russia side, where it seems to have been held as an article of faith by Russian leadership that Ukraine would not offer meaningful resistance and that their own military forces were much, much more capable than they actually were
You may recall putin Purging the FSB as a result of that particular intelligence failure

>>65393525
>Nah they ought to have had more troops, not only was the 4th the designated capital defence unit
What are you talking about?
The 4th was not the “designated capital defense unit,” the majority of the brigade had been sent east while the main defense of Kyiv was to be done by the 72nd Mechanized Brigade as their home base was slightly south of Kyiv and they were battle proven, but even they weren’t even full deployed in defensive positions around Kyiv when the war started. This is all well documented.
>it was also one of the best trained in the entire AFU as the first complete brigade to be trained in the new NATO doctrine
Doesn’t mean a whole lot when the only remaining elements of it are a few hundred rookie conscripts that had never seen combat before and are under equipped, outgunned, and caught in a surprise attack. NATO standardization is cool and all for optics about integrating into the west, but those members of the 4th stood and fought a losing battle to stall the Russians because they loved Ukraine, just like all the non-NATO standardized units that did the same.

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>>65390749
Largest us marine casualty in a single day after ww2
The entire thing is comedy gold of incompetence

>>65391342
Stalin, the most paranoid man to ever live, thought that HITLER wasn't going to fuck him in the ass.

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>>65393753

Other than dieppe, exercise tiger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Tiger

>>65391593
They weren't able to respond because the fort was completely out of gunpowder. That's how bad the situation had gotten there.

>>65393753
>>65393761
No idea how Hezbollah didn't get completely fucked up the ass for this one.

>>65391340
The Allies also stopped believing their own intel sources in the Dutch resistance.
>They say the German forces are retreating? Excellent, this operation will be a cakewalk!
>They say the SS is setting up a garrison and has plenty of armor? They must be mistaken.

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For a more recent example, Hezbollah not checking the inside of their newly acquired pagers.

Killed or permanently disabled 30% of their officers

In addition Nasrallah did not think Israel would dare assassinate him or start an all-out war against Hezbollah due to international pressure and fear. It's why Nasrallah was just sitting in Hezbollah HQ in downtown Beirut when he was hit.

>>65393776
generally speaking, people get so butthurt about israel that they are willing to suffer pain and humiliation themselves as long as it isn't seen as "helping" israel.

A good example is Iranian antics driving up oil prices in Europe or Arab countries being attacked and they don't do anything against Iran.

>>65393760
conspiracy theorists to this day ignore that we have evidence of Soviet manipulation, funding, or outright creation of nearly every long-running conspiracy theory that appeared in the back half of the 20th century in favour of believing that the theories are real and they weren't duped by the Soviets
that's the biggest and hardest conflict of interest of all: admitting you were wrong

Stalin just couldn't take that and first lashed out and then spazzed out

>>65393760
Stalin acted rationally and the Soviets and Germans were both benefitting enormously from their quasi-alliance. There was no reason for Hitler to start another war, especially since he had failed to beat the British.

But Stalin while evil was a pragmatic actor and assumed Hitler was as well. But Hitler was driven by emotion.

>>65393281
>Saddam invading Kuwait due to its ruler calling Iraqi women whores.
That's a myrh and you damn well know it. Kuwaiit was angle drilling under the border into Iraqs oil field.

>>65393248

This is another of those myths that doesn't understand context.

Walking slowly makes perfect sense, with your troops maintaining cohesion across badly broken ground. Charging off at a sprint is a good way to have your entire company get their legs broken in potholes within 50 yards.

>>65393974
Sure thing Haig, don't you have more British men to get killed for your jew handlers?

>>65393974
I hope you'll never get to be in charge of anything even remotely important.

>>65393974
>Walking slowly makes perfect sense
Just like wallking fire from your BAR.

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One of the most famous ones:

Battle of Karánsebes
>Part of Austro-Turkish War (1788–1791)

>Different portions of the Austrian army, which were scouting for forces of theOttoman Empire, fired on one another by mistake, causing self-inflicted casualties and severely disrupting the Austrian baggage train, during the night of 21–22 September 1788. The Ottomans took advantage and captured the city of Karánsebes

>Some historians have referred to the battle as "history's worst friendly fire incident"

>Exact details of the events are unknown or lost to history, the multi-ethnic nature of the Austrian army is often said to have been the initial source of confusion as the various elements of the army were unfamiliar with each other and could not communicate

>>65393844
Bruh. The US (Israel) antics are the cause of the recent fuel hikes. Iran wasn't doing anything unusual until they got bombed just to get Benjy reelected. Trump got suckered by Benjy into believing Iran will fold in 3 days. It's now 6 months. Sounds familiar?

>>65396089
idk I'm enjoying 2,500,000 rials to the dollar and breadlines in Tehran as Israel just watches and laughs at peace

>>65393956
Yeah. It was a blunder for Saddam in that he believed the US promise to back him up. Saddam actually asked for and given the green light by Darth Cheney, who later went back on his word when the Saudis paid him more. Hard to believe for the young uns, but until the Gulf War, Iraq was America's most loyal attack dog in the ME against Iran & Co. Saudis wanted to replace Iraq as America's no. 1 toady Sheik, and they got it.

>>65390749
The Mayaguez incident took place between Kampuchea (now Cambodia) and the United States from 12 to 15 May 1975, less than a month after the Khmer Rouge took control of the capital Phnom Penh, ousting the U.S.-backed Khmer Republic. After the Khmer Rouge seized the U.S. merchant vessel SS Mayaguez in a disputed maritime area, the U.S. mounted a hastily prepared rescue operation. U.S. Marines recaptured the ship and attacked the island of Koh Tang where it was believed that the crew were being held as hostages. Encountering stronger-than-expected defences on Koh Tang, three United States Air Force helicopters were destroyed during the initial assault and the Marines fought a desperate day-long battle with the Khmer Rouge before almost all were evacuated. The Mayaguez's crew were released unharmed by the Khmer Rouge shortly after the attack on Koh Tang began. The names of the Americans killed, including three Marines left behind on Koh Tang after the battle and subsequently executed by the Khmer Rouge, are the last names on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaguez_incident

>>65396228
>Approximately one week after the assault, Em Son's men noticed that their leftover food was being disturbed and on searching they found bootprints in the mud. They set up a night ambush and on the third night they captured two Americans matching the descriptions of Gary Hall and Danny Marshall. Em Son radioed Kampong Som and was ordered to deliver the Americans to the mainland. The following morning the two Americans were taken by boat to the mainland and then driven to the Ti Nean Pagoda above Sihanoukville where they were stripped to their underwear and shackled. After one week, on orders from Phnom Penh, each American was beaten to death with a B-40 rocket launcher. Hall's body was buried in a shallow grave near the beach. Marshall's was dumped on the beach cove.
Interesting incident
makes me feel absolutely no regrets for a lifetime policy of TCD

>>65393842
Why the fuck are the coffins glowing

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>march into Syria
>capture two local nomads, famous for being raiding liars who'll steal everything not nailed down
>"Oh, the Hittites? They're far away, they fear you!"
>believe them even as all your generals yell at you to not trust those fuckers
>one of your patrols captures two actual Hittites
>"The fuck you from? Isn't your army supposed to be a week's travel away?"
>"Actually, our camp is behind that hill over there."
>yell at all your generals for not warning you the Hittites are right here
>charging you, in fact, while three quarters of your army are still way behind
Just Ramses II things.
Oddly, despite his monumental intelligence fuckup, the redhead pharaoh's battlefield conduct was exemplary, and he managed to eke out a draw.

>>65396303
lmao
now we're cooking with gas

>>65393974
Weren't the lines also like 2 miles apart as well?

>>65396241
Excess holiness converts to Sodium-24 (24Na), severe radioactivity, yellow glow.

>>65396228
Mayaguez was even more fucked up because the original plans for the assault were to take USAF security police from the UTapao Airbase law enforcement flight who were only armed with revolvers.
Back then law enforcement and airbase defense were two different career fields, so these guys had no combat training, but were expected to fast rope down from the helicopters, seize the bridge of the ship, and rescue the hostages all on their own with less than 30 minutes of prep time before the helos were wheels up. The mission was aborted at the last minute becuase one of the helicopters' main rotor was improperly serviced and detached on takeoff, causing it to crash and killing 25 airmen of the assault force.

>>65397033
And to top it off the hostages were planned to be returned without ransom

>>65397972
>kills your hostages
>we were about to give them back, promise!

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>>65397033
>UTapao
>fast rope down from the helicopters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLc8VX3Ad_k

possibly the most kino battle of ROTS

>>65396235
The worst part is that, despite the Khmer Rouge being such monumental meganiggers that even the likes of Idi Amin, Mobutu Sese Seko, and Jean-Bedel Bokassa would say "ayo, that's a bit much", the West was goaded by the US, still butthurt over the Vietnam War draw, to sanction the Viets when they eventually delivered a righteous boot in the teeth to Pol Pot's regime.
It was only massive public outcry which eventually forced the Swedes and other Euros into eventually switching their votes.

>>65393842
They did actually check some of the pagers but they were so well made it wasn't conspicuous

>>65393882
>when /pol/ falls for every commie psyop in the book
Oh I'm laffin.

>>65391447
>Macron was a puppet
>not Trump
The fuck!? According to Bluesky and Reddit Trump is completely owned by Putin and he did everything he asked are you telling me that they are lying?

>>65394037
>ww1 was jews
Fucking moron.

>>65396089
>iran totally never assisted terrorist groups attacking shipping or anything
You faggots never lear do you?

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>>65390749
Does Honda point count? Largest loss of USN ships in peace time to date due to an unwillingness to trust new equipment and bad measurements

>>65400560
It's extremely obvious Putin is now doing exactly the same thing he did to Macron to Trump: Promising him he'll be the one to end the war - if he just lets Russia do its thing for a bit longer, surely everyone will laud him as the great negotiator/peacebringer/dealmaker!
The difference is that Macron was capable of realizing he was getting strung along, while Trump is too old and senile for it.

>>65400774
Jesus what a fuck up

>>65392198

>buckbroken

Shut the fuck up you child. Nobody on this earth needs your bullshit contributions.

>>65400466
>Idi Amin
The guy who likely lived Dolcett fantasies with his opponents' wives? Then again, Pol Pot invented a portable guillotine to be used for reluctant children.

the thirty years war was basically a giant clusterfuck dumpster fire fuckup by all involved parties

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>>65390749
I choose to believe the canadians planned to make this look like an accident

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>>65391391
>Disregarding intel from the Five Eyes

>>65391505
What? The event where the mutts shot up British vehicles that were marked as British vehicles and were operating exactly where they knew British vehicles were?
Both parties found the pilots at fault for their communications, not the Brits

>>65391294
>There is no official record or documentation showing that "Tootsie Rolls" was a secret code word for 60mm mortar rounds, nor is there any evidence that an air cargo commander accidentally dropped candy instead of ammunition.

Are you implying that any military has ever officially documented slang?
Like I can just look in the AFMAN 69-420 to learn what a hop'n'pop is?

>>65400560
>According to
This style of posting is always a hallmark of a retarded /pol/tard making a retarded argument.

>>65402140
Retard.

>>65400774
yeah counts
good one

>>65400948
not quite exactly the same but in general, yes
we have weak leaders (the entire government, not just one man) who are reluctant to be firm about war so it's easy to promise them peaceful jam tomorrow always

>>65394260
Wasn't a part of it caused by some the soldiers getting extremely drunk?

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>rwanda, after going through a brutal genocide, goes to war with the congo
>rwandan intelligence assures them that neighbouring african countries will not intervene if they invade congo
>they hijack 3 civilian aircraft and seize congo's ports and coastline in the most successful airborne operation in history. continue to shuttle men from rwanda to the coast until their invasion force is about 3000 strong.
>congolese military and militia either surrender or switch sides, the rwandan force is around 20,000 men at this point. they seize the hydroelectric dam generating power to congo's capital and are ready to march on it and seize it
>other african countries, specifically angola and zimbabwe actually DO intervene at the last minute, the rwandans are routed at kinshasa. if their intelligence was correct the rwandans wouldve actually captured kinshasa and probably have won the war.
>they have to retreat overland back to rwanda via hostile angola where they are helped by allied guerrillas

the 2nd congo war is crazy as fuck

>>65396228
>the ABCCC aircraft received a radio transmission from an American asking when the next helicopter was coming to extract them
>Holt radioed back that the Marines should swim out to sea for rescue
>was told this wasn't possible because only one of the three could swim
I thought all marines could swim. :-/

>>65394260
Midwits are still thinking this one really happened.

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>>65390749
Galipoli could arguably be called that, though many decisions prior were made regardless of intel that conclusively fucked it.

>Send British navy up there to threaten Istanbul but actually do nothing so they join the Germans and make ww1 last longer.
>Okay, fix that by taking istanbul via boats but oh wait they learned they need to reinforce that.
>Send in the anzacs plus brits, canadians and indians iirc.
>But wait actually change their landing places last moment so they can't find where they are and have to wait for sun, thus giving the defenders time to find the threat and mount a defense.
>Okay, after months of the most horrific close-quarters butchery of the war, the Kiwi's Wellington division (last useful thing anyone from there ever did) finally took the damn hillside by running up an exposed ledge under heavy rifle fire, to take the hillside. Letting them bombard the channel defense guns with artillery, letting the ship artillery go up to shell Istanbul, take out this side of the war, and bring an end to the rest of it.
>BUT NO!
>Because the fucking british weren't on the ball, and decided instead of hurrying to reinforce their allies clawing for the position on top of the hill and momentarily holding, that it was too hot for hill climbing and to go for a swim.

As such, Gallipoli drags on pointlessly, and eventually the Anzacs leave. The war continues and becomes the Great War, Turk commander (utter chad of a man) goes on to found modern Turkey, Churchill gets saddled with the blame (it really wasn't his fault so much as the first sealord's), and Sabaton makes a song about how horrifying it was because even by their standards it was just awful.

>>65402778
>so they join the Germans
the turkroaches had already agreed to join the germs, everything else was WW1 propaganda to foist the blame on the bongs

the land battle at Gallipolli is understandable to me given the inherent difficulty of amphibious assaults

what I find more ridiculous is the allied navies' Dardanelles fiasco