>turkey is developing a 5th gen fighter before europe is
At least you admit Turkey isn't Europe. Finally.
>>65394066Constantinople is Europe.
>>65394065>Partnerships>Saab>BAE>Eurojet>Rolls-Royce>General ElectricThey assembled a parts kit.
>>65394069Why can't Europe do it too?
>>65394069this is cope>>65394071lack of political willTurkey is determined to get it doneEuropeans were wondering if they need a military until 2022
>>65394071they are assembling F-35s in Italy right now
>>65394065>developing a “5th gen” fighterYeah plenty of third world shit holes have developed “5th gen” fighters.
>>65394075>copeOh please everyone knows most of the tech has come from the roach's F35 program.
>>65394065ONCE WE GET GERMANY AND FRANCE IN A JOINT PROJECT AGAIN YOULL SEE A GOOD FIGHTER JET.
>>65394122and eurotrannies can't even pull that offanything beyond pushing attached bottlecaps is beyond their ability apparently
>>65394147>c-can’t even pull that off!We already have 4th gens that are better than the “5th gen” aircraft these shitholes are building lol.Did you make this thread just to deliriously seethe at europeans? Thanks for the worship lol.
>>65394150>rafale gets bodied by chink temu jets on its first air to air combat sortieeurotroon hardware is garbage
>>65394158Bang Ding Ow, my son...
>>65394071>Join F-35 consortium and get a better fighter for cheaper (as long as you obey the golem)>DIY a more expensive, worse plane, still obey the golem to get engines, weapons, radar, EW...
>>65394158Pakis used SAAB Awacs, though.
>>65394067it's istanbul, not constantinople
>>65394065Europe is under the false delusion that the US will somehow return to gibs status after taco kicks it.
Europe is not a country.
>>65394222is this why their defense industry is skyrocketing in the last 4 years?
>>65394147don't you have to attend your uncle's doner kebab, you six legged arthropoid?
>>65394158>has to resort to cherry-picking jeet useage>"conveniently" forgets the euro equipment used by the other sideYour seething is palpable.
>>65394222Nah.Also samefag less obviously, turkroach. You're still never getting into the EU btw.
>>65394158>turkroach seething this hard that his turkroach jet isn’t being taken seriouslyKek.
Europe's strategy in this regard is to skip 5th gen entirely and make indigenous 6th gens instead.Of course Europe runs entirely on autopilot, so they decided to do this in a join German/French enterprise (again) that failed and split up (again), leaving France to make it on their own with a rather modest budget, resulting in a functional but low tier plane (again) and Germany to make an overpriced piece of shit that doesn't work (again).The Turkish jet is a joke. The current version originated at a time when Turkey was a participant in the F35 project from which they forked their own ghetto variant, but it's entirely dependent on foreign components from nations that have the right to say no, you don't get to do shit with this plane because it's got our bits in it. And that do this often, just because they can.So even if it does work, which is doubtful, they will find that they can only ever use it to do the golem's bidding.Incidentally, the reason people don't buy the Grippen if they can help it is something similar.
>>65394303europe is not germany+france
>>65394307There is also England (lol. LMAO) and Italy, which actually has Leonardo, a company that makes some of the most relevant components.The political, technological, economic and military center of Europe is, however, Germany, with only France standing out as an independent, functional nation. A German-France cooperation really means France and the rest of Europe.England tries to be independent sometimes but it's completely broken down to the point where it might as well be just a US air base.
think its just going to be gcap and 4.5+(++) rafales and eurofighters and gripens. i mean russia is fucking retarded anyway theres no real need for stealth right now. it would be a bit pointless to start another project ehen theres what 500 f-35s in europe (JOINT strike fighter, member)
>>65394316Apparently, JOINT actually means Israel's strike fighter that everyone else pays for and then begs to be allowed to use. If they can get them to fly because Israeli jets get repair priority and spare parts are scarce.
daily amerifat seethe thread"we literally never think about you" the obese mutt screams in anger, while constantly thinks about Europe
>>65394330dont be silly>>65394338I think everyone on /k/ realizes theres no f-35 without european companies at all. let alone the engineer work from the UK, the B variant wouldn't exist without RR
>>65394273>>has to resort to cherry-picking jeet useagehow is that cherry picked? it's literally the only example of a modern euro fighter engaging in air to air combatand the other side didn't even use euro fighters, just a euro awacs with chinese/pakistani equipment retrofitted into it
>>65394069Turkey is sanctioned for bashing sdf and Russia in Syria. Also, punished for wrecking Armenia. So it has been 7-8 years, Kaan is a solo project with full Turkish subsystems
>>65394065Waste of money.
so why is this nigger gloating again? europe is developing 6th gens and has already plenty of 5th gens in their hangars.
>>65394373>Developing 6th gen>EuropeLOL, LMAO EVEN
>>65394386gcap really is the next jsf
>>65394386did i stutter, roach? maybe get those kebab slices out of your eyes
>>65394404Nice plastic mockup
>>65394406it's clear that you want to engage in a puerile shit flinging fight and i'm too white and too civilized to let myself getting involved. i would say i'm sorry for your past blunders hurting your fragile chauvinistic spirit, but i'm not.
>>65394409Please come back when you have a flying prototype
Itt: eurotrash ass is on fire
>is developpingYeah and Kenya is developping a space program. Call me when they actually roll out the thing and it's not an inferior clone of a Western craft.
>>65394404what makes this 6th gen, exactly?
>>65394443The same things that makes any plane any gen.The marketing department.
>>65394065imagine unironically entrusting your life yo some barely flying turd assembled by a fat ass hairy man named mehmet that stuffs himself with boreks on the assembly line while getting shouted at by his fat wife on the phone
>>65394474Are you talking about the Kaan or the GCAP?
>>65394538the flying 'fifth generation' doner project
>>65394303>Europe's strategy in this regard is to skip 5th gen entirely and make indigenous 6th gens instead.Ja ja das ist ein guter Plan.Surely, the incremental engineering challenges solved for the 5th gen won't matter to building a 6th gen aircraft.
>>65394474wait until you see what american workers look like
>>65394574
>>65394474Guten morgen HansTurkey's airlines now operate 1000+ passenger aircrafts, and being premium customer, Turkey dictates both Boeing and Airbus to use Turkish manufacturer and contractors on their "products".So whenever you take a flight, doesn't matter if it's Airbus or Boeing, kindly remember that there are Turkish-made parts on the hull and engine of your plane. Have a nice flight.
>>65394338this is a roach gloat thread though, a totally diferent cardinal direction
>pirate IRST can track a subsonic plane at 130+km(f35 uses this)>Its made by leonardo in italyOur shit is simply better than whatever 5th gen turkroaches could field.You re acting like china with leds on souless skyscrapersMuch implessive
>>65394586i live in toulousei'm gonna need a source on that mr turkraoch, and a good one
The EUgandan face saving cope ITT is literally Asian tier kek. When both China, Korea, and now Turkey are leaving both you and the burgers in the dust, you should do something more productive than being emotionally fragile online.
>>65394744https://www.airport-technology.com/news/newsturkish-aerospace-industries-selected-supply-airbus-a320-fuselage-panels-4567153/Since 1995, they are delivering sections for airbus aircrafts, they have delivered hull sections for more than a thousand airbus planes. Thiey also produce dozens of other stuffs for passenger planes. So yeah.
>>65394814that's not the fucking same as forcing airbus (didn't even mention boeing) to buy turkish. It's a standard airbus deal like it has been done countless times with countries in and out of europe, including the US, china, and even morroco. And you brought some Airbus as a result too lmao
>>65394342Dude you forget the whole ass other plane from the competition?Let alone F-22The US can build a plane without help
>>65394876and now you know one of the reasons why the f35 is far less expensive than the f22
>>65394892>no you can't build it without europe>ok you can but it's cheaper with them>ok it's not actually cheaper to get COTS components from europe but they just matter, ok?
>European parts here>European help there>But still no european plane:bigthinking:
>>65394415>Western craft.Paper tiger. Every european aircraft has a shit record. Even the praised rafale got its shit pushed in by fucking pakis. Show me one european hardware which did well the last 20 years. Even in the Ukraine, the Leos got annihilated the first month of deployment. So tell me, which european hardware has seen actual combat and did well? The US is right about shitting on you pretentious fucks on every occasion. Superior western tech my ass.
>>65394215For now.
>>65395008>e-every european craft has a shit recordIt doesn’t.>b-but indiaYeah jeets don’t know how to fly aircraft, we know.You’re such a crybaby turkroach.
>>65394752Why is this turkroach trying to be multiple people in his own thread?
>>65394978>ok it's not actually cheaper to get COTS components from europewhy are you talking out of your ass
>keep begging for more F-16s>try to get their hands on Eurofighters>try to get the F-35 againYeah sure they're developing a fifth gen fighter, just like India
>>65395248stop anon you might hurt the roach's incredibly fragile ego
>>65395241because we woke up yesterday as a roach, today as a roach and tomorrow as a roachthat's why turkish G3's need a modified trigger guard to prevent suicides
>roachroachroachroach>It doesn’t.show me>Yeah jeets don’t know how to fly aircraft, we know.and eurotrash pilots can? When was the last time your pilots got combat experience? Bombing civilians 15 years ago doesnt count. >turkish G3's need a modified trigger guard to prevent suicides>bringing up memes from the 90sAnd you're still stuck in the 90s.Western weapons my ass. Go lose some more rafeles against chink planes lol.
>>65394071The management of the military is like the only thing were Turkey is more competent at than Europe (at least Europe excluding France). Not only is the Turkish goverment more dependent on it, the military has a massive sentimental value for the country. Meanwhile many European goverments would rather eat shit than actually invest anything in the military.
>>65395248People are lazy. If given a choice, people will choose the easiest path. The US blocked the easy path for Turkey. So they have no choice but to take the harder path and make their own blackjack and hookers. As we have seen with China's Hiawei, AI etc. it has backfired spectacularly for the US.
>>65396033>As we have seen with China's Hiawei, AI etc. it has backfired spectacularly for the US.Ahahahahahahahaha
Zero Turks in this thread BTW, except now me. Also zero posts with correct info. We have the most advanced chitin composite tech for the wings. We are just too lazy to use them. But when we do… you will shit your pants.
>>65396175?
>>65394065Turkey is India-tier and we'll see the KAAN and the Tejas 2 in the same category of shit birds that claim gen 5 but are easily defeated by gen 4
>>65394065I thought the EFA was considered 5th gen
>>65395278>turkroach is still seething and pretending not to be a roach in his own thread>n-noooo, stop laughing at me! Stop calling me a roach! Please argue with me!No lol.Turkshit is garbage and a roach isn’t human enough to be calling anything “eurotrash”.
>>65396333He had a meltie
>>65394065>A 5th genMaybe. There's no actual standard for it, and you can literally just call your projects whatever you want.
>>65396805the first 5th gen flew 30 years ago with technology even older than thatis there a single aerospace company around today that doesn't use 21st century technology and processes (past ~15 years)?
>>65396808The marketing department at Lockheed came up with the idea of FIfth Gens to describe the suite of capabilities new aircraft like the F-22 brought to the fore compared to legacy airframes likes the F-15.
>>65394415>doesn't understand that the US is included in the WestYou're brown.Also Turkey hasn't been able to match Euro tech yet. The Rafale blows anything they have. Maybe they could achieve Su-57 level but never F-22 or F-35.
>>65396810an interesting thing about that:>While the rationale that constitutes a generational shift is debatable, a generational shift in jet fighter aircraft occurs when a technological innovation cannot be incorporated into an existing aircraft through upgrades and retrospective fit-outs.this means the ".5" or .5+" additions to generations like "4.5th gen" makes no sense
>>65396818They do make some sense. Avionics improvements can often be back-ported to older airframes, and they're frequently the most important part of new fighters.
Look at the amount of the pigskin seethe in this thread ahhahahaahahahahah
Eurofags are going to seethe so hard once Spain starts buying the Turkish jets instead of whatever smoke and mirrors the euros are peddling.
>>65397086>>65397009>turkroach is too mad to just make one postLel>h-hahahahaHoly shit this guy is mad lmao>p-pigskin>turkroach>calling white people anythingSee roach, the reason why making fun of white people’s appearance doesn’t work is that we are the beauty standard of the world. People insecure about their looks around the world pay out the ass for expensive luxury products so they can look more like us.In homegrown TV shows, when they want to present a character as attractive, they use the lightest skin and the most phenotypically white nosed person they can find.Anyway, i hope you get over your inferiority complex turkroach, or don’t, your melty and attempts to sound smug are very amusing.
>thread be like
>>65396244this lmao>>65397108that person is not TurkishI need Turkish ass!
>>65397335russians are crushed and humiliated by Turks in multiple occasions in last decade. Also this thread is full of westoid seething
>>65397423Turkey? What turkey? Today is known as new syria
>>65396812>The Rafale blows anything they haveFrench surrender monkeys are truly the most delusionals piggies out there. Turkish KE will your eat your shit plane raw.
europiggies don't have any equivalent
>europiggiesHow's it feel knowing that you will never join the biggest economical hub in the world, and the only reason why people even bother to alnowledge you is necause you're a glorified american airstrip?
>>65394067Correction. Konstantinopol is Russia.
>>65397451>puccialelOnly if they figure out how to capture farmlands & hamlets held by militia-tier forces
>>65397451>western europe de-whites and de-christianizes ancient lands in their war on russiasome things never change
>>65397434>Turkish KEExcept the Rafale is actually operational unlike your hypothetical brown cope plane.
>>65397451>the two worst people you kniw are fightingFuck i wish they would hnnnnggg lemme get that mobik roach vs mobik mobik slap fight
>>65397473At this point Turkey is whiter than France.
>>65397498Turkey already fought Russia in various fronts such as Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan and Russians were BTFO
>>65397448Why are you still seething in your own shill thread, turkroach, aren’t you supposed to be happy? Why do you sound so mad?
Turks have been the apex predator of Europeans for 600+ years. After a period of stagnation, they will be crushing euros again.
>>65397503More reasons it would be fun to watch
>>65397524Turks have a lower TFR than most European countries, and the ottomans were a European/Roman Empire more than a Muslim one. Turkish women love BBC like the other goys and their men are addicted to Ronaldo and Messi
>>65394066>>65394065>>65394071Turkey is in yurop. constantinople is in yurop. the majority of turks live on the yuropean side of the bospherous. turkey is in the EU and yurovision >>65394071too poor and third world
>>65398201>turks in euThey are not, its been a source of turk seethe for since forever
>>65398201>>65397524>>65397500>>65397441Astronomical levels of turkroach seethe.If this is what their shilling technology looks like, then it doesn’t bode well for any aircraft they try to build.
>>65398257I'm not a turk, I'm American you thirdoid. most turks live in yurop. hell turks founded rome, faggot
>>65398264>i-i’m americanVery convincing, turkroach.1 baklava please, chop chop, you don’t get paid to stand around cryptojeet.
>>65396374Bruh Turkey is way better than India
>>65394892>>65394978>>65394984Europe is but a lying shadow nowhttps://arstechnica.com/space/2026/04/gateway-manufacturer-finally-acknowledges-issue-fails-to-mention-corrosion/
How much do you think the turkroach is getting paid to keep coming back to his shill thread to seethe angrily at critics? He’s been neurotically screeching and crying at everyone who’s laughing at him for the whole day.
>>65398274I don't have to convince a third worlder like you. you're probably a polak or one of those other bottle up the ass third world no gunz counties, faggot.
>>65396033how has it backfired?
>>65398329>y-you’re a third worlder!I’m not a turkroach like you, so no.>i-i don’t have to convince!Then why have you been in your own turkroach shill thread, angrily shilling for turkroach shit for the whole day? Seems a little dishonest turkroach.>y-you’re a polak!I’m not, but literally any european is whiter than you so that hardly matters, turkroach.>n-no gunzYou guys literally have anti-suicide triggers lmao.
>>65398337It hasn’t, the turkroach is trying to cope with a fuckup they made that cannot be undone.
>>65398340>I’m not a turkroach like you, so no.yurop is a brown third world tranny country >Then why have you been in your own turkroach shill thread, angrily shilling for turkroach shit for the whole day? Seems a little dishonest turkroach.I haven't retard. I just entered this thread because I was looking for a thread about the NJ stay or the PSA nfa case and wanted to call yuropoors third world subhumans. and I'm American.>I’m not, but literally any european is whiter than you so that hardly matters, turkroach.I'm American. all of yurop is as brown and third world as yurkey and india >You guys literally have anti-suicide triggers lmao.I don't. you have no gunz because you are a third worlder and a subhuman
>>65398301you radiate butthurt
>>65398301>lying shadowfuck out of here esl nigger
>>65398379He’s not himself when he’s hungry, turkroach needs to have a turkish delight.
>>65398371>yurop is a brown third world tranny countryEuropean countries like England and Germany are still 80%+ White, America is sub 50% White and imported anti-White ideology across the world as well as transgender stuff> all of yurop is as brown and third world as yurkey and indiaAmerica imports more Indians than Europe and even has the H1B Indian visas where they fill up America,
>>65398371>y-you’re a tranny!I’m not a turkroach, so no.>y-you’re brown!I’m not a shitskin turkroach, so no.>y-you’re third world!I’m not a turkroach, so no.>i-i haven’t!You respond within minutes of someone making fun of you and your shithole, turkroach, you’ve been feverishly checking this thread all day long because you’re extremely insecure and easy to trigger.>a-and i’m americanAmericans don’t shill for turkroach land, so nobody believes you, also given the fact that we already have a turkroach lolcow regular there’s plenty of precedent for meltdowns such as yours.>i-i’m american!And i’m the queen of sheba lmao.You’re a turkroach, the fact that you get so mad and you start drooling with rage every time you get called that further confirms it.>i-i don’t!You do, because you are a turkroach lmao.>y-you’re a thirdworlder, not me!I’m not a turkroach, so no.
>>65398411You’re talking to a turkroach lmao.
I present to you niggers the:>being allegedly smart posters because allegedly you’re white unlike turks and you still get baited by a 14 year old brazilian opAward>>65397448Global GDP share going down and down. No frontier tech commercialized. No production scaled. Great economic bloc.
>>65398645>y-you got baited>i pretended to be a retard and you all called me a retard haha you got baited!Nobody cares. I’m going to laugh at you for being retarded regardless.
>>65398745Take your meds schizo.
>>65398379Lmao nigga got cucked by Elon so bad ISRO outperforms ya
>>65397441Aren’t some of the Euro’s buying the Ghost Bat?
I entirely blame this on the germoids.A treacherous and scummy people who have been ruining evropa since they came out of their swamps.>"ve need to unite zie europ">sells kuka to china>"ve need strong coalition of partners">doesn't punish the incursion of crimea>"ve need a strong defense base to rearm europ">breaks SCAF project because France wouldn't let them steal all of Safran's technology
>>65398757I’m not the one going ballistic in my own shill thread, that’s you.>>65398777Implessive, turkroach.>>65399577>i entirely blameBlame what, turkroach fantasy of having their own fighter?Lol lmao
>>65398212they are a membership candidate and receive membership application money from the EU, erdogan wanted to join the EU in the early 00s, it went well early on, but being almost a dictatorship since the coup in 2016, they are not managing to fulfill the entry requirements.
>RoachroachraochroachroachroachGreeks are malding.
>>65399577NTA but the SCAF was a stillborn project from the beginning. The French and the Germans have fundamentally different needs in terms of air defense. The French need a carrier-capable multirole fighter that can carry nuclear weapons. The Germans just need a basic air defense fighter because they have no carrier and no nukes. Any common endeavor would mean either cutting features the French need or passing classified French tech to the Germans.
>>65399746>s-stop calling me a roach!!!>y-you must be a greek to make fun of mePoor roach.
>>65399746I think there are multiple people obsessed with turks on /k/ and they are not greek.1. Russian expat living in Belgium. He's butthurt since Turkey wrecked their shit in Syria.2. non-blanco Portugese spic. i don't know what is his problem4. The jew which act like he's white3. There used to armenian expat living in Moscow, but it has been a while since i came across that idiot. He either died in special military operation, or he can't bypass the internet ban.
>>65398645if your idea of fun attention is having 30+ people constantly tell you that you are retarded,let me break some news to you,you deserve being made fun of, and you aren't "raising peoples blood pressure" eithersomeone calling you stupid isnt falling for a troll theyre laughing at you and feeling better about themselves
>>65394065cyprus is greek clay and turks are arabs
>>65395008Meteor BVRAAM
>>65400380I like turks
>>65400418They also have BVRAAM capabilites.
>>65398411all yuropoor countries are 100% brown and third world. that's why they have no gunz and cant put a man in space. in fact it's impossible to tell if a photo was taken in yurop, Turkey or india or if someone is a turk, yuropoor or jeet because they are identical in every respect, especially smell and intelligence.>>65398421>>65398423I posted a gun with a hand. something you cant do because yurop is a brown third world tranny country that has no gunz, no ac and no toilets. most yuropoors come from Turkey or india and all yuropoors are brown third world retarded trannies. that's why you have no gunz and die en masse from being too retarded to invent AC.only Americans and nips are people. the rest of the world is a group of indistinguishable brown third worlders
turks are not europeanthey are islamic central asian
>>65401094Turkey is in yuropIstanbul is in yuropyuropoors are brown and most yuropoors are muslim or jeet. the most popular name in yurop is mohamad russia is also in yurop.Turks also founded rome. aeneas, romulas, remus, ceaser and agustus were all turkroaches
>>65401112They're Trojans at best, which is still pretty based.
>>65398201>turkey is in the EUNo it isn't.>and yurovisionSo is Israel (West Asia) and Australia (Oceania). It's about as 'Eurovision' as UEFA is a European federation.
>>65401282israel is the capital of yurop and the seat of yuropean government
>>65401112WrongWrongWrongWrongTurkroach, i get that you’re trying to cope with being a turkroach, but humiliating yourself on /k/ is not a good way to do that.
>>65401080(Didn’t read)Lol seething turkroach.
>>65400380Turkroach, this is a really embarrassing attempt at samefagging, you’re very bad at this.
>>65401485>>65401481damn you are one angry, gay and retarded no gunz third worlder. Americans and nips are the only humans and only whites. yuropoors are a browner, dumber subspieces of turkroach
>>65401506>d-damn you are angryWeird attempt at projection, turkroach, i’m not the one making a shill thread and then seething when white people laugh at the shill thread, that’s you.>n-noooooo i’m american!nobody believes you, turkroach.
