They're starting to grow on me as of late, mainly because every other assault rifles nowadays look like AR-15 clones.But as I understand, they are not as good as the AR-15. Do you think they can be improved further to be just as good without making them look like another AR-15 clones in the process?
Nyet, rifle is fine
Are you asking, can you make an AK equivalent to an AR with off the shelf parts? Sure, its just AKs have limited interchangeability so a lot of shit has to be hand fitted with shims and files, which by modern standards is unacceptable. Or are you asking, could there be a hypothetical AK 2.0 that preserves the existing qualities of the gun while modernizing it on par with an AR? Also yes, IMO the biggest thing holding the AK back is its lower, shit like the AK12 and that Serbian extruded AK are marred by several things but the biggest thing is that (no matter how much plastic or rails they have glued on) they're still using a riveted stamping from the 70s. The Russians played around with hinged receivers (AK521), the Israelis are probably on the right track with the ACE but theirs still strips from the top, but IMO the real solution is something like a G3/MP5, where the lower is a milled magwell and the trigger is a plastic group. Get that sorted, and all the legacy issues with optics mounting and handguard zeros go away; since you can integrate as many solid mounting surfaces as you want. The upper could be a monolithic aluminium extrusion, so if it resembled anything, it would probably look like a Scar more than an AR
>>65394210>are you asking, could there be a hypothetical AK 2.0 that preserves the existing qualities of the gun while modernizing it on par with an AR?Yes, thanks for the answer.
>>65394193Yes. It's called the Robinson XCR.
>>65394193Yes, it’s called the AK-12 Gen 3 Comes from the factory with modern upgrades straight from the factory while still being fundamentally an AK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sJD_biVXBY>>65394210> shit has to be hand fitted with shims and files, which by modern standards is unacceptableExplain then why all Magpul CTRs rattle until you shim them?>>65394286Closer to an AR then it is an AK with the separate receiver assembly. Also probably made of aluminum instead of steel.Just because you’re Gucci AR 15 has a long stroke piston doesn’t make an AK.
>>65394359>AK-12lol
>>65394359>>65394504What can you tell me about the AK-12?
>>65394193>But as I understand, they are not as good as the AR-15.Correct. They are BETTER than ARs in every conceivable manner.They feel like actual WEAPONS, are way more robust and easier to use, require much less maintenance, and are generally more fun.>>65394524It sucks and flopped.
>>65394559yeah, if you're a retard. Whites prefer ARs
>>65394193>AK>neglecting the essential thing to make it look cool - THE MAGAZINEWeak. Weak and disappointing
>>65394559Look I love my AK but they're just objectively worse in too many meaningful ways (manual of arms, optics mounting) to be better. More fun, absolutely. But better? No, not even close.
>>65395068>objectively worse in too many meaningful ways (manual of arms, optics mounting)What?>manual of armsLol rock the mag back and pull the fucking charging handle is too much for you? Retard. >optics mountingFirst, you don't need an optic on a fighting rifle that's only effective within 200 yards. Looking at you too, ARfags. Second, the side rail mount on most AKMs is perfect, and if you don't need perfect, a gas block pic rail is really good, light weight, and low profile. AK is GOAT.
>>65395036Although that infograph is ancient and has several mistakes, you're not wrong.
>>65394286If they made a lower that took AK mags I would buy it in a heartbeat.
>>65395294AK is a goat in a sense that it's too butfucked by arabs chechens and other animal-loving tribes>>65394359Gen3 ak-12 fixed many problems since izmash engineers can watch the rifle performance on telegram from the Ukie FPV videos, but it's still made from cheapest metal, chinesium plastics and on machinery that remembers the evacuation from moscow in 1941. Tolerances are as you would expect from wartime production using chinese resources, anyone smart enough left pussia in 2022 before the mobilization leaving behind chronic drunks with manual precision of a spastic orangutan.>>65394193OP, buy yourself a nice wooden AK for fun times at the range, don't try to cope turning it into worse AR-15.Not everything needs to be optimized and battle ready. When shooting your AK just imagine those poor ziggers that would've been sent with AKMS and two spare mags into Fulda Gap and thank Mr. Stoner for solving the ideal rifle riddle forever.
>>65395294You can't clear the weapon while it is on safeNo bolt hold open is inexcusable It is the 21st century, mounting optics is non negotiable. Gas tube pic rails don't hold zero well and significantly limit your optic choices. Finally, if you can't be effective outside of 200m with a carbine that is a skill issue. You clearly do not shoot your guns beyond mag dumping at trash piles if you don't think any of this is a factor. I love shooting mine but it is objectively inferior of a fighting rifle for these reasons.
>>65394193They certainly can, just look at the AKV-521 which is like 80% of the way to being a fully modern rifle. Give it an LRBHO and free floating, neither of which are unprecedented for the AK platform and shouldn't even be that hard to implement, and I would actually prefer it over an AR. >>65395294>Lol rock the mag back and pull the fucking charging handle is too much for you? Retard.Rock in mags are inferior for the average shooter and only subjectively better for people who invest training into it. Also, not having a real LRBHO is a big fucking deal. >First, you don't need an optic on a fighting rifle that's only effective within 200 yards.Retard logic, cope harder. Budget red dots are so cheap and reliable and offer such a large advantage over irons that not having them isn't a worthwhile discussion, and that's nothing to say of the advantage of high quality magnified optics. Also, the AK could easily be stretched out 100 yards further than that with optics or if it didn't have dogshit irons. The improved sight radius and aperture rear sight of the AK-12 is one of the legitimate improvements over the AK-74M, and a redesigned upper receiver like the AKV-521 would allow rear irons and optics to actually properly hold zero. >gas block pic railNot even worth discussion. >Second, the side rail mount on most AKMs is perfectAcceptable =/= perfect. Simply being inferior to firearms that have top rails or can accept them disqualifies the AK from GOATed status.
>>65395009>whites usually prefer ARsFTFY
>>65394524Don’t believe this uneducated nigger >>65394559Even Ukrainians say the AK-12 is a good rifle, that why you see so many of them run captured AK-12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0VDS1G6GEIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUWyOy-9HYk&t=309s
>>65394193>2026>im just starting to get interested in the ak platformfuckin faggot, you're 80 years late bitch. you don't get to know about the ak, now shut the fuck up.
is the m19 that zastava put out any good?
>>65394193They are reliable in the sense that they require little upkeep and will work in extreme conditions due to loose tolerances and simplistic design(Alaskan State troopers use AKs and Galils instead of ARs). They also will eat any bullshit ammo you put through and if it inevitably jams you can just curbstomp the charging handle.
>>65396661Imagine being out in the field and she’s your battle buddy and she peels back your sweaty unwashed smegma fill foreskin from days with out showering and she slops on you until leave an acidic smelling load of cum from all the white monsters and MREs all over her face.
>>65394193Isn't the Sig SG-550 just an accuratized AK?
>>65396936>a foid is your battle buddyNever worked with females in the military, huh?
>>65396661>Help me step-sergeant I’m stuck
>>65394196Based post.The whole AR vs. AK (and one is better than the other) is just a meme.
>>65397014i have a Sig 550 (fucking sweeet) and i'm confident in saying... kinda? sort of like how the Egyptians and Mayans both found the best way to stack large rocks for a long period of time.
>>65396936>I will never have this Why live?
Zastavas are AKs, and I'm tired of pretending they're not. Hell, they're more AK than the fucking kike Galil.
>>65400130who says Zastava's aren't AKs? Galil, Valmet, Yugos... all AKs.
>>65395036Russians are apparently sourcing magpul AK mags anyway they can.
>>65394193You can buy an weapon you want. But if you want to use AK's get on in 5.56 because all the cheap AK ammo is gone.
>>65400178No, we aren’t. They don’t work very well in our guns because they are designed for Bulgarian AKs and not Russian ones. Also we have our own domestic magazine makers for that.
>>65394193I like the rate of fire more than the AR15's
Why don't they make AK-12U?
>>65400130withered onision
>>65394193I cant post images for whatever reason, but the Valmet rk62 & 76 are probably my favorite looking AK type. The hats took it and made it ugly with the galil.
