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Well, it probably will but what if instead of a bear, 7 wolves will attack you?
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I'm pretty sure that an adult human can beat a single wolf to death without a weapon, so just don't miss the other 6?
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>one wolf attacks
>I miss 4 shots
>get him on the 5th
>"heh, I bet you feel rather silly now kiddo..."
Naw I'd be fucked with two wolves let alone 7
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>>65394301
>I'm pretty sure that an adult human can beat a single wolf to death
With a knife maybe, with only an empty gun to your name your odds aren't clear cut
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>>65394301
>I'm pretty sure that an adult human can beat a single wolf to death without a weapon, so just don't miss the other 6?
I think there are smaller wolf breeds that you could probably just kick away but most are pretty fucking massive and the larger ones will be nearly human body weight, male to male (up to 80kg) and female to female (up to 55kg). That's not an easy kill.

OTOH wolves are pack predators and like most predators (including human that prey on humans), they don't like hunting prey that fights back.
If you killed six of them, the seventh would certainly flee (and either join a new pack or die). The remainder of a pack would most likely flee after you killed 2-3.

>>65394351
>With a knife maybe, with only an empty gun to your name your odds aren't clear cut
If you could jam your gun in its mouth, you'd have a good chance of being able to kick and knee it to try to break ribs, a leg, or crush its throat. Possibly even choke it to death on the gun barrel. They're not big on clawing I don't think and an injured wolf is most likely going to retreat (and eventually die).
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>>65394417
>most are pretty fucking massive and the larger ones will be nearly human body weight, male to male (up to 80kg
Most adult male wolves weigh 180lbs? What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>65394429
What are you smoking that you so badly misread that post?
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>>65394297
Where I live there are only Mexican gray wolves. They mostly live in pairs and they're extremely rare so I'd be thrilled to see them.
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>>65394297
second revolver
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>>65394297
Anyone got those articles about hunters killed by packs of wolves?
They describe the scenes as a massive struggle and some feature an emptied gun with stock broken from clubbings.
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>>65394297
God this sounds more like a fantasy
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>>65394297
...There have been a full total of about 100 wolf attacks recorded in North America, since 1750. The last fatal wolf attack to happen was 16 years ago, the victim was a lone unarmed woman, in Alaska. To begin with that's about the only place you have to worry about wolf attacks (and Canada, but those aren't people so who cares), and if you're in Alaska there are things much more dangerous than wolves around. How about you worry about polar bear and moose, those will actually kill you, and they'll do it for fun.

Wolves are genuinely not a threat to armed men and haven't been since the stone age. As soon as they see a gun, and yes they know what a gun is, they will fuck right off.
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>>65394486
I remember seeing thay here so I did digging.
>guy last stands with pack of wolves and kills several
>all that reminds is shredded clothes and a broken gun
But turns out its probably fake because I found this newspaper clipping while browsing.
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>>65394297
Bears have extremely thick skin and bones so you need high velocity and penetration to hurt them. A rifle is best suited for the job but a handgun is what you're realistically going to carry, and a revolver is about as big as it gets in that form factor. Yeah Id rather have a garand and drop 8 rounds of 30-06 in its face but I also dont feel like lugging around a whole rifle for the 0.1% chance I get attacked by a bear. If 6 shots of .44 doesnt do it, fuck it, the bear won. Not to mention anyway black bears will fuck off just from the noise of the shot, they want an easy meal. Brown bears will chase you down and want a fight, so even if you do encounter a bear you have almost a 50/50 shot right off the bat its not even interested in you.
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>>65394301
Your legs will get bitten and you will be taken to the ground to die.
Because you have weak ground game.
Can't armbar a wolf now can ya?
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>>65394297
>8 times


Checkmate wolves…
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>>65394301
people have massive problems being attacked by a single pitbull and a wolf would tear a shitbull to pieces
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>>65394521
>>65394486
ALL of those stories are false. Seriously, wolves are not a match for a handful of dudes with pointy sticks. Groups of armed trappers weren't getting torn apart by wolves, like, ever, but most certainly not in the era of repeating rifles.

This story is from the 1920s. You'd genuinely need to be retarded to believe it. Stories like this became common because they thought Jack London's "White Fang" was something that actually happened. No, packs of zombie like wolves numbering in the hundreds don't mindlessly pursue prey that drops dozens of them with gunfire.
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For me its the blackbeard approach
>ankle
>OWB
>SOB
>IWB
>Mexican
>Fanny pack
>Backpack
>pocket (two in pants + 2 more in vest)
>purse
And top it off with two of those springloaded gambler's derringers
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>>65394548
This guy has more guns than there are wolves in most forests.
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>>65394297
>7 wolves will attack you?
use the speed loader
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>>65394543
Wolves are naturally very timid around humans, the amount of predatory wolf attacks in all of US history are extremely small, like 90% of wolf attacks are related to rabies or protecting pups. Most wolf attack stories were greatly exaggerated basically to give the US justification to lead a wolf extermination campaign
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>>65394585
>Wolves are naturally very timid around humans
only when they're strangers
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>>65394429
>>65394417

I took a trip ( heh) to a hippy jam band music festival in rural WV when I was in college. It was held on a bigass farm. The farmer had dogs in a pen, and he also had a wolf in there. That motherfucker was bigger than any dog I ever seen, scary big. I grew up with big dogs and have basically no fear of them, but this dude was scary. I'd probably be less scared of a griz than a pack of those things.
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>>65394492
>unarmed woman, in Alaska.
Sounds like bullshit. I thought everybody in AK were armed for wildlife.
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>>65394297
>what about a pack of wolves
We don't live in bronze age Europe anymore. A random encounter with a single bear that is pissed off enough to be a bad time is actually plausible. Attack by wolves is not; and I even hunt in an area where they "reintroduce" wolves.

Ranking of animal encounters that are actually concerning for me up in the hills:
1. Moose
2. Cougar
3. Bear
Power Gap
4. Lost Tweaker
Power Gap
5. Coyotes (lol)
6. Wolves
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>>65394702
>coyotes ranked higher than wolves
There have only been two recorded cases of people getting killed by Coyotes in all of recorded history Anon, one was a toddler, the other was a C*nadian woman
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>>65394729
Why I said (lol) about it, dummy.
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Who has that study that says having a gun prevents casualties from bear attacks by like 90%+ compared to not having one

There was an incident where a guy had a .22 mag 9 shot revolver and shot the bear through the eye, killing it
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Loud noise scary for animal
Many loud noise very scary for animal (especially if they get hurt)
Animals, especially predators aren't retarded. If prey is too dangerous then they won't take it
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>>65394429
You don't think you could take a wolf if you absolutely had to?
N G M I
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>>65394297
you do know they make 8 shot revolvers, don't you?
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>>65394297
They'll probably flee after the first shot whether or not I kill one of them.
Also, what kind of pussy are you that you can't take one wolf with your knife? You do carry a knife literally everywhere, don't you, anon?
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>animals getting shot regularly instantly nope away
>humans regularly aren't aware they've been shot until they pass out
Why is this?
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>>65394477
>second revolver
four revolvers in a pirate carry chest holster
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>>65394799
Animals don't do meth
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>>65394489
>..and I'll return a father
Why would you return?
What's the civilised world done for you that nature hasn't surpassed?
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>>65394297
What's a good revolver for bears?
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>>65394799
>>animals getting shot regularly instantly nope away
They're probably running from the noise.
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>>65394931
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>>65394926
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>>65394931
A loaded one
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>>65394931
I hear stories from Chads living in Alaska downing bears with .357 Magnum. Just like with any firearm, it depends on how good you are with shot placement. The worse you are, the higher the necessary caliber
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>>65394301
You really think you could fight a wolf barehanded? Fucking retard.
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>>65394521
"To shreds" you say?
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>>65394996
they're just dogs and probably cowards.
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>>65395417
>they're just dogs
See >>65394417
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>>65394297
M1 carbine with a 10mm sidearm, preferably a Les Baer long slide.
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>>65394931
Bears can't shoot worth a damn, they ain't got no damn thumb.
You a dumb sumbitch.
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>>65394926
Nature's got some cool stuff, but there's no pizza. Pizza is pretty good.
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>>65395432
Lol
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>>65394351
I think a fit adult man can 1v1 a wolf and win more often than not, if he's not ambushed
With that said, he'd likely sustain injuries that -without immediate medical attention- would result in death shortly thereafter. That probably goes the other way also
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>>65394297
What thirdie shithole do you live in where you need to worry about packs of wolves?
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>>65395446
>fit adult man
Fit *American* man, ftfy
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>>65394297
You know there are revolvers that can carry 7-8 rounds now right?
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>>65394297
>Colion Noir made a video saying I should carry a .300 BLK SBR with an FRT for bear defense.
Anon, please, you didn't need to make a /k/ thread; you could have just read the comments on his video.
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>>65394729
the chances of encountering a coyote and needing to defend yourself are very low. running into the same situation against a wolf or wolves is even lower.

moose will go out of their way to fuck you up...
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>>65394585
This. Wolves are apex predators. Wolves will limit their attacks to ones they know they can win. Because most injuries will be fatal eventually to a wild animal.
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>>65394702
Coyotes are bros
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>>65394931
people have killed bears with 9mm by magdumping, so probably anything you can consistently get good hits with. Probably better to get in a few rounds of .357 than just the one .460 . Longer barrels will help with velocity and muzzleflip, so a longer barrel gun is a good idea(assuming you can bring it to bear fast enough)

Bullet selection makes a bigger difference than caliber, hardcast lead or even copper bullets will ensure good penetration.
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Well, the Taurus has 7 rounds, but if I'm walking with both Uberti, I'd have 12.
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>>65395906
Wrong pic
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>>65394297
two revolvers
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>>65394429
Those are coyotes or foxes. Real wolves are huge mofos, almost as big as tigers but smart as well. There's a reason they were wiped out by Euronigs in Yurop by the end of the Medieval Era. Humans could never allow such creatures to exist.
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>>65395810
People have killed bears with .22. Pic rel.
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>>65394297
You kill a few and the others run off.
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>>65394297
I just wanna know how I can conceal carry this thing.
>pic not rel
https://litter.catbox.moe/vs7a4zf459009o0s.jpeg
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>>65394702
>4. Lost Tweaker
my sides
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>>65394729
There are only 13 US states with wolves to begin with. You very likely won't be killed by coyotes, but the chances of having to defend yourself from a rabid coyote are infinitely higher than being attacked by wolves under any circumstances; for the majority of people it's not possible simply because there aren't any, at all, period.
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>>65395959
>the most exceptionally fortunate person in the history of being divinely favored
I don’t know if your point was to shit on his point about relying on your bullet going precisely where it needs to go to terminate a large angry or hungry carnivore but that’s how it comes off
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>>65396394
shit i just looked up the estimated wolf pop of the contig 48 and that's legitimately sad
fuckers won't exist in the future
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>>65395940
No, wolves are not almost as big as tigers. Even gigganigga monstrous direwolves are not even close to tiger sized. You're as close to a gorilla as a wolf is to a tiger in size.
>There's a reason they were wiped out by Euronigs in Yurop
yes, that's because they kill livestock.
>>65395798
Wolves pose less of a threat to humans for reasons utterly unrelated to being apex predators. They are pack hunters, and pack hunters reign in the one retard that wants to go do stupid shit. This is why lions, despite having a population 10x that of tigers account for roughly the same number of deaths yearly. Lions will only take on humans in very rare circumstances, while tigers are known to go out of their way to kill people. Lions could totally take down humans in vastly greater numbers than tigers, they actively choose not to and keep their retards in check that otherwise would attack humans. It is most frequently solitary lions that attack humans.
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Wolves tend to not only be timid but also very lanky and lean. The bigger ones usually have malamute or shepherd mixture. Very rarely are there pure blood wolves in the wild.

With that said, I'd be much more wary of humans and boar outside.

>T. Takes care of wolf hybrids.
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OP is a silly goose.

If you're in an area where you might need to blast an entire pack of predators, which keep coming after you've taken out half of them with shots that produce 150+ decibels of rage, I suppose you better have brought a couple extra speedloaders for your revolver.

Or maybe stay away from these areas unless you have a long gun.
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>>65395940
>almost as big as tigers
lmao, no, they're not even remotely close, the largest male grey wolf recorded was like 175Ibs while the smaller female tigers are like 200+, with male tigers averaging around like 400Ibs
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>>65394297
If you get jumped by seven wolves you're a dead motherfucker anyway.
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>>65394297
Well, what would you do if you were carrying a Glock and were attacked by a small group of 37 wolves?
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>>65394811
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>>65396814
Was there a firefight?
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>>65394297
Will 5.45x39mm be enough to stop a charging tiger on its feet?
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>>65394297
>carry a Glock 29 SF
>blast 10 rounds into the alpha wolf's face
>scream "WHO ELSE WANTS SOME OF THIS, BITCH!?"
>six virgin wolves run off in fear after seeing their leaders face become a memory
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>>65394297
>Well, it probably will but what if instead of a bear, 7 wolves will attack you?
good thing i've got a bear on speed dial
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>>65394429
this nigga can't read
KEK
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>>65397229
this board is rock bottom in both literacy and english proficiency, welcome to the club
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>>65394702
Your thought process is rational, but I think your ranking is a little out of wack and oversimplified.
Assuming an encounter of mutual surprise, I’d say the threat risk is:
1. Moose
2. Grizzly
(power gap)
3. Cougar
4. Black Bear
5. Tweaker
6. Multiple Wolves
(power gap)
7. Wolf
8. Coyote(s)

Assuming that we’re talking about a scenario in which you are surprised by the encounter but your adversary is not:
1. Tweaker (the only one of these things capable of using a ranged weapon)
2. Cougar (ambush predator with exquisite night vision and stealth abilities)
(power gap)
3. Moose
4. Grizzly
5. Multiple Wolves
(power gap)
6. Wolf
7. Black bear
8. Coyote(s)

Assuming a hunting scenario where you get the drop on the adversary:
1. Grizzly
2. Moose
(power gap)
3. Black Bear
(small power gap)
4-8. Everything else in a hodgepodge, the sound of your first surprise gunshot will immediately cow the adversar(ies) even if it does not immediately disable or kill.
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>>65397311
the real truth nuke is in the woods two legged animals are the biggest problem. these days it's tweakers or potentially grow ops
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>>65394297
Then wolf 7 is going to get fucked to death.
WITH MY DICK.
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>>65394297
I love to reload during a battle
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>>65397331
Yeah, imo the tweaker or schizo is both the most capable foe if he gets the drop on you and by far the most likely to try. Cougars are both rarer than tweakers and also avoidant of human contact for the most part. God help you if an uncommonly bold or hungry one successfully decides to try sneaking up on you in the dark, though.
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>>65397402
if a cat wants you, you probably won't see it anyway
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>>65394746
>There was an incident where a guy had a .22 mag 9 shot revolver and shot the bear through the eye, killing it
biggest grizzly ever killed was shot by some Native American grandma with a .22 single shot rifle that was only held together with duct tape and baling wire
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>>65394302
>one wolf attacks
>miss 1 shot
>the entire pack runs away
You'd be fine lad.
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>>65394693
>he doesn't know
Oil and gas money surging into Alaska has brought with it tons of yuppie fags from down South. I would genuinly not be suprised if it flips blue within 10 years.
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>>65397311
I was prepared to call you a retard because that's just been how things go on this board nowadays but I actually agree with everything you've said in this post, which is very surprising.

Cougar in particular is why I still use a 2man tent when solo camping instead of a single man or just bag and groundsheet.
They are around in my area, and I have this idea in my head that a large, opaque object is too daunting an obstacle for a cougar to fuck with as opposed to a small one or just me as a meat popsicle.
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>>65397739
>I would genuinly not be suprised if it flips blue within 10 years.
Dude the way things are going I'm convinced November is going to flip just about every available seat.
Current admin fucked up bigly and it's pretty plainly obvious.
I was never a resident of AK (my grandparents and uncles were for decades) but I loved visiting.
>>65397739
Haven't been in 15 years now, have heard things are going downhill because of lower 48 influence and makes me really sad.
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>>65397746
Smart. I only sleep solo out in the open if I have my dog with me (which perhaps isn’t technically “solo”). I trust that the cougars would instinctively avoid contact with a mid sized canine, or that my dog would detect the cougar and wake me up and/or scare it off by growling and barking.
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>>65394297
>Well, it probably will but what if instead of a bear, 7 wolves will attack you?
wolves you can just jerk off into submission
you drop your pants and spread your ass cheeks
if they come in for the sniff you are good to go
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>>65396406
I just think that bigger guns won't give you as much room for error compared to multiple rounds from a smaller gun.
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>>65394429
Typically not, but they do get that big, especially in russia.
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>>65394526
>I wouldn’t worry about black bears that much
I’ve encountered a black bear twice within a span of 30 minutes, in the Northern California mountains, at night. The first time, he was digging around in dumpsters. I was drunk enough that I thought he was a small human. I shone a flashlight on him, and aggressively whispered, (I was in an area with cabins) and he fled like a guilty dog caught rummaging in your trash can. I was drunk and lacking common sense, so I kept wandering around the area for a night stroll. I encountered him again, about a quarter of a mile away, and he fled, terrified, as soon as my flashlight beam touched him.

I’ve encountered black bears in this area before and in Idaho, and they fuck off and flee as soon as they notice you. I’ve never encountered a grizzly and I hope that I don’t.
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>>65399074
>in.
>ft.
>lbs.
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>>65397311
that pic... why would you put something that you touch with your hand right next to wild animal shit? what stupidity is this?
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>>65399713
>why would you put something that you touch with your hand right next to wild animal shit?
Animal feces isn't quite as bad for us as our own feces is.
Some of it is sort of harmless to us, especially dry.
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>>65399699
I'm not taking any shot from a guy who uses comma for decimal notation and periods as the digits separator!
None!
You can take my foot up up your metric sized ass!
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>>65399713
To show scale, obviously. I didn’t even touch the ground with it or anything, and you’re acting like I took a big bite of the turd or something lol
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>>65399755
>his imperial measurements are defined using the metric system
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>>65399699
>basedjak
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>>65394297
Why are americans afraid of bears and wolves when they keep these genetically modified war mutants at home?
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>>65400086
The pitbull nannie dog meme is specifically Mormon spinoff cult propaganda. Go ask /an/ about it.
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>>65394301
What is the largest dog you've seen? Google Irish wolfhound. Wolves are generally larger.
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>>65394351
>>65394417
>>65394429
Russian farmers do it
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I live in the mountains but in the east. Ain't no wolves lmao, at worst coyotes and the rare black bear. All of those animals are little bitches more afraid of humans than the other way around. I just rely on a 9mm subcompact, I've never had to use it but surely it would be plenty. It's what I'm comfortable with and can easily CC it even when running shirtless.
Now brown bears or moose? Fuck those things. I would get .357, .44, or 10mm and deal with the discomfort.
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>>65394702
I'd be more concerned about a wolf than a fucking coyote... coyotes are basically a step above rats.
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>>65397768
A hungry enough cougar will see your dog as a meal, especially in a remote area where they don't have regular contact with humans.



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