The Future They Were Promised
Why are military pistol trials 20 sad glock clones but military rifles trials are the most insane schizo clockwork nightmares you've ever seen?
Its a pity the colt ACR never went anywhere. Not because it was good, but it was backwards compatible with normal 5.56 and would have meant mass issued optics and collapsible stocks 20 years earlier. Plus having such a heavy profile barrel as standard might have meant hypervelocity shit being played with much earlier.
>>65400623Because all the new pistol needs to do is be lighter than the one before it so it doesn't get in the way, while assault rifles have been trying to marry the power of a machine gun with the weight of a long arm ever since the BAR.
>>65400623>military rifles trials are the most insane schizo clockwork nightmares you've ever seen?Not anymore.
>>65400648I said trials. Not adoptions.
>>65400696Gay
>>65400635Agreed. The two flechette guns would have shit the bed on terminal ballistics and would have run out of gas too quickly when plates started seriously popping up. Velocity alone only works on steel / titanium. The G11 is kewl but impossible to field maintain.
>>65400618what is that bottom right?
>>65400819AAI ACR
>>65400819AAI flechette rifle.
>>65400819AAI ACRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-bxGo5wN2o
>>65400819FAMAS
Acog on M16 was justasgood.
>>65400636So an Ultimax / SureFire MGX?
>>65400618The future is neigh.
>>65400618>H&K G11Lightweight ammo, but kicks like a fucking cunt, and the salvo doesn't really improve hit probability enough. Impossible for grunts to take any reasonable care of in the field, builds up film of explosive powder inside body of itself, ammo sensitive to moisture and rough handling, and the Bundeswehr allegedly fucking hated it in testing for numerous reasons.>Steyr ACRInsane muzzle velocity, but jammed like motherfucker and had completely abysmal practical accuracy.>AAI ACRSimilarly useless practical accuracy. Flechette rifles are brutally mogged by a stock M16A2.>Colt ACRGoofy, but at least it had a good optic and could fire conventional ball ammo.So, I'll take an M4A1 with an ELCAN or ACOG, thank you very much.>>65400623The ACR program is fucking old, in case you haven't noticed. It's also the last death rattle of decades and decades of desperately trying to make the pipedream of Project Salvo finally amount to something, and it never did because its ideas were always very retarded.As for pistols? Pistols just aren't really significant weapons from a military point of view, they just need to be any kind of working handgun, because a minority of people even need them. 90% of what a military uses pistols for is to put them on the hips of MPs, ergo the military counterpart of their biggest purpose in civilian life: a portable gun for a cop to carry all day.>>65400636>while assault rifles have been trying to marry the power of a machine gun with the weight of a long arm ever since the BAR.No, the assault rifle was an infantry rifle which could also do the SMGs CQB role, which Germany was first to apply practically. The next step was to move away from shitty .30 caliber intermediate rifle cartridges, and instead to SCHV ones like 5.56mm and 5.45mm, and that perfection was already achieved by the 1960s.
>>65400851Some astonishingly retarded ideas out there.
>>65402206Lets also extend the receiver to make it constant recoil, and also make it a bullpup! And instead of just normal saboted tungsten penetrators, let's make them double saboted tungsten flechettes laced with poison! Also we should triple the chamber pressure for overmatch!!!
>>65402227Don't forget the Magnetic rails to increase the projectile velocity!
>>65402248>he doesn't know about the rear sight
>>65402206You could literally match 6.5 CBJ by using tungsten 7.62 Tok to save yourself the conversion job.CBJ needs to be slapped out behind the grocery store they call their address for misleading people like this. Yes, tungsten 6.5 CBJ outperforms SS109! wow!Can anyone afford enough to equip an entire army? no!
