It seems a lot of the anti gun people I've discussed or debated to about guns and their necessity, ultimately, their problem always seems to stem from fear of gunsTheir talking points>guns cause the most violence and victims>they can go off and kill anyone around you easily>the US's crime is because of guns>you like guns cause it's in your nature as a cultureTheir points always sound like a scared kid saying them.
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>>65400837Commies are the same everywhere, but you can't fathom how dumb, scared âne hostiles to basic freedoms antiguns euro-commies are. My grandfather learned shooting aged 8 yo among boy scouts with a little .22 that is now as legally restricted as a PGM Hecate in 338 LM.
>>65400922Maybe thats the problem. Everyone is born in such a nanny state we dont even get taught how to use guns at an early age like my grandfather use to.
>>65400837Guns are dangerous Being dangerous is their whole pint
Most grabbers i talk to either regurgitate blatant misinformation about guns or project their own violent impulses onto everyone else.
>>65400990I have noticed a surprising amount of them saying that it can hurt themselves or someone around them. And even a couple that brought up it's easy to kill yourself with if you felt like it. Like what, is that really their argument? That they can suicide easily?
>>65401001Even if ypu hurt someone arounf you, it might still be less painful than if a criminal did itBeing shot out of anger beats premeditated rape and tortureAnd ultimately you still have more control over what you do than over what other people do
>>65400837Worst one is ''You only need guns because everyone has guns''Even said by women or the sort of soiboy who would be useless in a knife fight
>>65401025Perhaps then they are projecting their lack of control I suppose
>>65400837anti-gun people have convinced themselves that if you got rid of guns(which you can't), then crime would vanish
>>65401517They say victims are more harmed in a place with guns than those without. And when I bring up that they still have crime from other forms of violence, they ignore it
>>65400837The primary argument from grabbers is the "gun violence" angle. When broken down it yields roughly the following.1. Over half (55-60% depending on year) of all "gun violence" numbers are suicides. This speaks to a serious mental health crisis, especially among men 18-40 (the largest group of individuals most likely to commit suicide with a firearm), especially among poor men, and especially among single men. Obviously they don't like it when you bring that up and start wanting to pursue the implications of it.2. Of the remaining half over 80% of it is young black men commiting violent crimes. The really don't like it when you bring that up and start wanting to pursue the implications of it.3. Of the actual firearm related homicides almost 90% are young black men killing other young black men. They really, really, don't like it when you bring that up and start wanting to pursue the implications of it.4. They lump 18 and 19 year olds (legally adults) in with the number of children killed or injured by firearms. Since 18 and 19 year old nogs are killing each other at a rate 10x the rest of the population they really fucking hate when you bring that up.5. There are, on average, 5-600 thousand legitimate defensive firearm uses a year. They start foaming at the mouth when you bring that up.6. More people die evey year from shoving things in their ass than from "assault weapons". More children are mauled to death by shitbulls, more people are beaten to death with hammers, more people are killed because a wheel on a truck driven by a reeking fucking dalit too cheap to replace his rusted out lugnuts came off and went through their windshield.It's never been about public safety. It's always been about control. Look at the money behind the grabber groups. It's always about making sure the proles are disarmed so the rich and their enforcers don't have any resistance because they know they're outnumbered a few thousand to one.
>>65401678Well made point
>>65400837>your AR-15'sMy AR-15's what?
>>65401732Dick, obviously.
>Discussions about politics, current events, or gun control belong on >>>/pol/
>>65401809my bad. I'll delete the thread then
>>65401809go away
>>65401678>It's always been about control. Look at the money behind the grabber groups.Fucking this.There's only 2 groups that support gun control. Rich assholes who want to micromanage your life, and lemmys that follow said rich people. The saying goes "God create men, Samuel Colt made them equal." It terrifies them that some pleb with $400 PSA AR can beat some asshole with the infinite money hack.
>>65401678Yeah but with those suicide numbers stay the same if there was a more effective tool for instantaneous-ish death than the gun
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