The most practical weapon a civilian can ever own is a closed bolt suppressed subsonic with a naturally HEAVY round like .45 ACP.Why won't anyone make a modern polymer/modular one?KelTec almost did it with the SUB CQB but like the cokeed up retards they are they chambered it in 9mm which defeated the purpose.
Most practical... why?
>>65408859Why not take a Ruger PC carbine and take the detachable front end off turning it into a giant detachable suppressor and barrel unit? There's plenty of room for an expansion chamber to reduce the 9mm to subsonic.
>>65408873quiet + heavy roundsif you can't think of why those 2 are the most important aspect for a civilian gun there's no point in me explaining any further
>>65408887because 9mm is a naturally light round that derives it's power from it's velocitywhich is my point about the SUB CQB being pointlesswhy bother trying to make a LIGHT round like 9mm subsonic when a naturally heavy round like .45 ACP exists
>>65408859>why won't anyone make a modern polymer/modular oneuntil recently the NFA heavily suppressed (heh) demand for integrally suppressed guns in general, and the bolt-action PCC market is kinda small in the first place.
>>65408887suffer through my shit MS Paint skills
>>65408906idk chamber it in 45 acp then, the original delisle was a clunky pile of crap that couldn't feed rounds properly
>>65408894>if you can't think of why those 2 are the most important aspect for a civilian gun there's no point in me explaining any furtherAssassinating your neighbours dog?
>>65408859>The most practical weapon a civilian can ever ownin case of zombie apocalypse or WWII commando missions
>>65408913Well with the recent rulings, maybe the registry requirements of the NFA will be struck down
>>65408859it's this one. The .22LR is bb gun quiet suppressed
>>65408894> if you can't think of why those 2 are the most important aspect for a civilian gun there's no point in me explaining any further>I hope that everyone is operating on the same layers of the ‘Tism as I am, because I lack the vocabulary to explain anything outside of memorized X-Files episodes.
>>65408894>civilianCivilians will 999/1000 only use their gun for plinking or collecting dust in the closet. On the 1/1000 they need to use a firearm it’ll be outside their home in a presumably self defense scenario. You cant break out the suppressed bolt action PCC on the off chance someone may pull a knife, you can only react as a civilian. As for home defense the mere prescience of a firearm alone of any type massively turns the favor towards the home owner, but still, they wouldn’t want a suppressed bolt action. As for hunters (I consider these a separate use case from civilian use) an internally suppressed .45 is stupid.
>>65408894Imagine you’re at the corner store, and you accidentally brush shoulders with Tyrone. You try and apologize but Tyrone is a real nigga, he won’t take that disrespect, so he moves to pull out a switchblade or a Glock with da switch. How will the bolt action sitting in your closet help you?
>>65408859Why use that when you can just get a .300 blackout AR15?
>>65409017hunting?
>>65409033So you don't drop any brass.
>>65408924>>65409003>>65409017>>65409030here's a hint
>>65409159Side charger, fully adjustable gas, brass catcher
>>65409265You have a gun. Just shoot the camera.
>>65408873OP has an autismal need to frame the things he thinks are cool as the most optimal choice
>>65409282while your vaccinated™ neighbors rat you out cuz they heard the shots
>>65409030Do you even survivability onionPro tip- I do not go to gas stations where I may encounter Tyrone, because I am not a cityoid.
>>65409288They didn't hear shit, they hate the cameras too. those fuckin cameras make great target practice.
>>65409397when the zogbot cops start interrogating your neighbors they'll rat you out like they'd rat you out for not wearing a mask anonthis is already a proven pointalways assume you are surrounded by enemies because 90% of people will rat you out to save their own skin.
>>65409409>always assume you are surrounded by enemies because 90% of people will rat you out to feel morally righteous.Ftfy
>>65409409Covid was the final nail in the coffin as to my hope for humanity as a species.A.I. is now just pissing on the headstone.
>>65409409thats why I'm not going to go telling everybody.
>>65409487sorry but Karen heard your unsuppressed non-subsonic rounds anon
>>65408859silly goose
>>65409409The ultimate hard truth is that at least 70-80 perfect of the human race deserves to get Darwin'd.
>>6540954585-90%*
20 inch AR w/ Acog
>>65409265>>65409282I hid in some branches and took two out with my airsoft
>>65409265>just commit a crime with a heckin' NFA item!>you'll totally get away with it because no one will hear you do it anon!>It's not like the government knows you have a silencer or has your name, address, and fingerprints on file or anything.Feds are getting sloppy.
>>65409601>ooh look this guy registers his suppressor. >can't have any felonies on top of the felonies you're about to commit
>>65409545Don't shit on a man for having a little fun when he can get away with it
>>65408894>.t doesnt actually know and CANT answerGo be retarded somewhere else.>>>/b/
>>65408916I would buy this in a heartbeat
>>65408917A lot of the reproductions don't feed worth a shit either. Mine and the two others I've handled were finicky.
>>65409695me too
>>65409300>Pro tip- I do not go to gas stations where I may encounter Tyrone, because I am not a cityoid.Some people travel anon, I live in a white Area and took a rode trip to a white area, but drove through a nigger area.
>>65408894Anon, generally speaking civilians are not in the assassination business.
>>65409265Lol green laser you don't even need a gun for that
>>65410136
>>65408906>why bother trying to make a LIGHT round like 9mm subsonic when a naturally heavy round like .45 ACP existsWhy bother with .45 ACP when a naturally even heavier round like the .458 SOCOM exists? Its like other people have had the same thought as you before.
>>65409017>On the 1/1000 they need to use a firearm it’ll be outside their home in a presumably self defense scenariouh, no, it will be inside their home most likely, which you probably meant. "Civilians" by your reckoning are normies who dont conceal carry, which is a fair assumption.
>>65408894What about the ability to carry it concealed you fucking retard?
>>65409545Eh, that one I can respect.Fucker put in the effort.
>>65408859SOVL>>65408916No SOVL
I mean, a gun is a gun. I'd prefer a PCC in 45 ACP semi auto over bolt. But again, a gun is a gun. >>65408859>>65408873Whenever a post like this comes up it's often some schizo with some kind of a theory, and they might be planning a newsworthy.
>>65410554The DeLisle would have been great converted to 300 whisper, fewer feeding problems, bigger heavier bullet, even quieter.
>>65408859>pee cee cee11.5 PSA AR mogs hard low diff
>>65409695>>65410103
>>65408859Explain why for subsonic applications 45 ACP would be better than 50 GI, a low recoil 50 caliber handgun round.
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>>65408859My suppressed .38 levergun is close enough>>65409545Amogus
>>65411470.50GI is unobtainium
>>65408859mossberg mvp in 350 legend>250 gr subsonics>decent 100yd point blank supersonics>AR mags
>>65411010Someone out there has a reproduction in 375 raptor.
>>65408859The SUB QCB only has a 4.25 inch barrel and 12 inches of suppressor which would remain subsonic when using 147 grain 9mm.
>>65408894Sounds like the most important aspects of an assassin's firearm, anon. Civilians are defending themselves from road ragers and burglars, not taking out targets like John fucking Wick.
>>65408859Cause that there is an assassin gun, boy. Can't have those on the streets.
>>65411994>no BUIS>no folding stock>no intricate engraving>no infrared illuminator>no tripod (except for me)ngmi
>>65418026It has BUISI was going to add the M3 illuminator and battery pack next
>>65418101fuck it
>>65418140Bullpup it but keep the stock
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>>65418183I really like this a lot.
