Pretty little Flowers Edition
>>65409114Didn't some of those get converted into fishing trawlers postwar?
>>65409114What's with the censorship? What are they hiding.
>>65409241No idea for the background, but on the four flowers it would be the location of their pennant numbers
>>65409260Background bits could either be landmarks or other ships you don't want people to see, usually capitals
>>65409143Pansy was converted into a freighter.
THIS IS NOW A SHIPS PARKED NEXT TO EACHOTHER THREADNICE
>>65409364look at them, pressing against each other, its lewd, its depraved
ships AND planes parked next to eachother in the same picture uuuoOOOOO
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Sea Power helped me fall in love with the Leahy-class.
>>65409143Is that a balloon on your deck, or are you just happy to see me?
>>65409631>>65409143Amazon delivering your mom's dildo.
>>65409576For me, it's the OHPseverything you need and nothing you don't
>>65409364>>65409374
>>65410316>AlaskaYou'll ask her what?
Turning this thing around
>>65410320what her bra size is
>>65412469Brown water navy thread?
>another thread of boring grey World War ships and gacha waifuposting
>>65409576"MR. LEAHY! RICKY'S GOT SQUADRON OF DESTROYERS AND HE KNOWS ABOUT OPERATION LIQUOR!"
>>65413250Then post something different you faggoty Frenchman!
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Have a painting as I can't seem to find my ship folder.
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>>65416175When orwell mentions floating fortresses I always imagined something like this
>>65416670It turns out it was just French warship design.
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why did the US Navy quit mounting Harpoon launchers pointing fore and aft, and start mounting them athwartships instead?>>65416469>modified Black Swan classhow humbling>>65416472oo noice
>>65423624>how humblingpity they didnt name one Bismarck or Tirpitz
>>65423624no Harpoons in photo.Harpoon canisters were always athwartships.
>>65423624You can't fire a broadside if the launchers point fore and aft, now can you?
>>65409364>THIS IS NOW A SHIPS PARKED NEXT TO EACHOTHER THREADAdrian Monk will love this thread
>>65427107RIP Bonny Dick you were a good ship when marines weren’t flushing their wipe socks down your shitters and clogging whole decks with them.
>>65426700look againjust behind the aft funnel>>65426902impeccable logic
>>65409364Parked next to each other for 80 years and counting.
>>65413250Here's my grandfather's ship. Agawam. Fast gas tanker, served with mild distinction, laid up a few miles from my current home and broken up before I was born. She was a good girl.
>>65427397Flight Quarters, Flighter Quarters, Flighter Quarters
>>65428126And in keeping with the thread theme, what I believe is the last picture of her in the breaking yards in Cali.
>>65416474where is this supposed to be?
>>65419589>that weird, schizo era of warship design when they realized they didn’t need masts on metal hulled steam ships but hull design is still clearly influenced by old ship of the line design Man I love boats like this. They look fictional, like someone legit incorporated the rule of cool into the things.
ship my granduncle was an AA fire control officer on. Apparently they shot down an Italian torpedo bomber in the Mediterranean at one point, then rescued the pilot who said some cheeky shit along the lines of "sorry the torpedo didn't explode, it was made in England" then it spent the rest of the war sailing in circles around the English coast. the endI love these lil' guys
>>65430944whoops pic didnt load
>>65430944>then rescued the pilot who said some cheeky shit along the lines of "sorry the torpedo didn't explode, it was made in England"Top bants, wogboy, but why did he have an English torpedo?
>>65432687he didn't, it was a joke
>>65435800I mean, Whitehead was English so in a way all torpedoes are British.
>>65428126>>65428137Thank you, Anon.>>65409143>Didn't some of those get converted into fishing trawlers postwar?Wouldn't be surprised as the design itself was a converted whaler.
>>65416472Cool pic. Also illustrates the italian tradition of naming big ships after stolen territorries.
Finnish coastal defence ship Väinämöinen hiding in a cove.
>>65437991Sister ship Ilmarinen showing interesting camo pattern on a rather shitty photo.
>>65437991>Nothing here but us trees
>>65438962When your camouflage scheme is effective enough that you've been mistaken by some model makers as being part of Scharnhorst's camouflage scheme
>>65439112Disguised so well that people forget she is a relic from WW1 and want to scrap her.
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>>65439112Similar case here, I initially thought the cammo pattern of a patrol boat moored alongside Ilmarinen's stern here >>65438004 was a weird camo on the ship itself, only after closer look I noticed the boat's wheelhouse...
>>65409114>Ship ThreadI just worked out something interesting"built" in this case meaning "commissioned between 1/9/1939 and 15/8/1945"
>>65409241>What's with the censorship? What are they hiding.Presumably harbour defences; batteries, lookouts, depending on the context of the pic, maybe radar and/or AD guns.
>>65409241>What are they hidinganything that could tell you when and where the photo was taken, who/what was there and what the facilities/defenses arewartime censorship is no joke
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>>65442923What is this garbage data? Off the top of my head, the USN had 6 fleet carriers by September 1939 (Lexington, Saratoga, Ranger, Yorktown, Enterprise, and Wasp). Japan only completed 6 fleet carriers from 1939-1945 (Shoukaku, Zuikaku, Taihou, Unryuu, Amagi, and Katsuragi). Light cruisers is missing Ooyodo. And there are probably more errors that I'm too lazy to find right now.
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>>65443222>Imagine the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere where the IJA built 4 more rather than the I*e and F*so classes.
>>65443106>Lexington, Saratoga, Ranger, Yorktown, Enterprise, and WaspWasp was commissioned in 1940I put Ranger in the CVL category because its speed was such that it was barely regarded as a fleet carrier and it was never assigned to any fast US fleet>Japan only completed 6 fleet carriersThe Unryu class is well capable enough to be considered fleet carreirs, they are 34 knotters and carried as many aircraft as any of the Kido Butai>Light cruisers is missing OoyodoI deliberately left Oyodo out because it appeared to be a command ship, but upon reflection six 6"ers is nothing to sneeze at, so I'll add it back in
>>65444078>barely regarded as a fleet carrierThe RN number is counting either Eagle or Furious as fleet carriers. Ranger should count if either of those piles of crap are counted.
>>65444201HmThe threshold I used for classifying a carrier as CV was to carry at least 50 aircraft including deck park and be capable of 30 ktsI will drop Furious, but that puts Eagle, Courageous and Glorious in question, as they maxed out at 48 in WW2.
>>65444222Even Ark Royal and Indomitable carried barely 50 aircraft. Only Implacable and Indefatigable carried decent air groups.
>>65444287the Illustrious-class operated 57-60 aircraft (mostly American) when operating in the Pacific, where deck parks were possible, and fired off deck load strikes of up to 40 aircraftArk Royal was never operationally tested with a deck park as far as I know, but she had that capabilityI think I'll make the threshold a firm 50
>>65444291What is the story here?
>>65442923What is this data as I am pretty sure RN had escort carriers in the triple digits as well?
>>65444498the Attacker and Ruler class were built by the USN and bought by the RN under Lend-Leasefor the purpose of this table, which I did up to analyse production capabilities, I put them under the USNnot triple digits, but about fifty escort carriers, mostly Bogue class, and the Avenger class was also American
Kaga and Akagi are so evil looking, the CVs Mordor would build.
>>65444399Filename.
>>65444078>The Unryu class isI was counting the 3 Unryuus that were completed. What other fleet carriers were there? The Hiyous were too slow, and Shinano was never completed (and arguably not a fleet carrier with her awful hanger arrangement and planned doctrine).
>>65445082Shinano was somewhat completed (yes, I know, not altogether watertight) but never received an air wingthe nine here are the two Shokakus, Taihou, Shinano, the three Unryus, and the two Hiyosbut>The Hiyous were too slowyou're right, I overlooked that, so I'll shove them into the CVL box
>>65445089Since everything else is going by commission date, Shinano shouldn't count since she was never commissioned. Even if she got commissioned and got an airgroup, it was less than 50 aircraft, which would hilariously put the largest carrier of WWII into the CVL category. As a rushed conversion, her hangar layout was awful and a bunch of it could only be used for disassembled aircraft. The plan was to use her as a replenishment carrier, delivering new planes to the real carriers on the front lines.
>>65445113>Since everything else is going by commission date, Shinano shouldn't count since she was never commissionedI agree with this point>it was less than 50 aircraftwell, Tully credits her with up to 55, so she might get in just under the wireif I make an exception for ships sunk while nearly completed, what others in the CL and heavier category would I have to consider?I know the Kriegsmarine had 2 Hippers which they could have finished but for various reasons did not
>>65445129>Tully credits her with up to 55I wonder where he got that number. Both ship building records but her at 42 + 5 spares, the materials report puts her at 48 + 2 spares, and only the aviation division proposal puts her at 57 + 2 spares.
>>65445160>57 + 2figuresshe went down with 50 Ohkas, 6 suicide subs and possibly 2 or 3 other aircraft, so that might be it, if we assume each 1 of those took up the space for 1 aircraft in the normal course of things
>>65445167The 57 + 2 proposal was pretty questionable, but 55 aircraft is believable if they're mostly Ohkas, those things are pretty small, especially compared to the Reppuus and Ryuuseis that she would have theoretically gotten.
>>65409114The Flowers were pretty cool though
