Rep. Andrew Clyde: I’ve received confirmation from the Trump Administration that the DOJ will NOT appeal our historic court victory against the NFA!https://x.com/Rep_Clyde/status/2087721147831828991ATF GLOWNIGGERS IN SHAMBLES! THE RULING GOES INTO EFFECT AT 12:01 AM CDT!
>>65418747Very important question. Are oil filter suppressors legal?
>>65418747This isn't a good thing, OP. By not appealing, this case won't make it to the Supreme Court, who could strike down the NFA nationwide. And because of how narrow the ruling here is, all it will take is for the Dems to reinstate the tax on SBRs and we'll be back to square one.The DOJ has turned a possible abolition of the NFA into at best a 2-year holiday in the 5th Circuit states.
>>65418759you niggers can't take a win when you get one, even if it's a small one. This ruling will open the floodgates and make it impossible for the ATF to regulate suppressors and SBR's under the NFA
>>65418759someone just has to get arrested and cite court precedent, the judge has to be like nu-unh! and then they tussle in court, and the supreme court comes in with the steel chair
ESL thread.
>>65418764 all of 4chan is pretty effectively demoralized and only used for surveillance and porn distribution. Has for a while.
>>65418759>a 2-year holiday in the 5th Circuit states.Which is all we need to get SBRs, SBSs, and suppressors to be "in common use" and thus protected nationwide under Heller.
>>65418788who the fuck distributes porn on 4chan
>>65418764I remember particular anons having piss baby tantrums both when form 4s were streamlined, and tax stamps went to $0. Some people react negatively to progress
>>65418798Anon you can go to /trash/ right now and look at threads about girls getting railed by animals.
>>65418759>>65418793So the anons in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi, get to own SBR's, SBS's and Supressors starting tomorrow as long as they are part of GOA or order from PSA?
>>65418798Over 50% of all posts on this site originate from Israel. This has been true and been known for a long time. The most recent hack and 2week shutdown of the site brought this fact back to light again.
>>65418788>>65418805It's literally bots or shills. 50% of web traffic is bots or shills. It's not even trolls anymore and anon STILL falls for the bait.
>>65418798Who indeed
https://x.com/gunowners/status/2087723449372283239
>>65418820Dont forget the cyber unit shitposters from florida
>>65418816Achtualy at 5pm central today they could.
>>65418750in a few hours
>>65418764Most anons are from flyover states who eat up third world propaganda all day from Fuentes and tucker. You can't expect them to understand legal precedent.
>>65418747>WE DID IT REDDIT XISTERS
Don't respond or it just gets worse.
>>65418805its not progress unless your a defendant in that case. literally the only people in the country this ruling applies to
>>65418816no , only the plaintiffs in the case get relief. nobody else
>>65418837What an odd completely-maddlibbed notion. What made you put all those words together? The only part of that contraption relevant within the past 10 years is fuentes.
>>65418847A good time to swell psa and goas membership/customer base then huh
>>65418833>>65418833>>65418849>>65418849WHAT DO I BELIEVE, I NEED A SERIOUS NO SHIT ANSWER.CAN KOMMANDOS BUY CANS AND SHORT RIFLES AT 8AM TOMORROW OR NO!?
>>65418798The Jews on /gif/
>>65418849So GOA members and PSA customers like he asked about? You're either an actual idiot or I just got botted
>>65418798>shadman
>>65418820Imagine thinking the Jews run everything but some how when they post to 4chan they just refuse to use a VPN??It's botniks and chinks using Jew flaged vpns btw.
>>65418866Yes Join the GOA first to cover your ass.
The GOA website is shitting itself from the sheer magnitude of everyone in the country trying to join the membership
>>65418866Your mother.
Why is everyone saying this is bad? Yeah it ain't for the whole US but like, that's still pretty good. I don't get it.
>>65418872
fuck YEAH
>>65418893It is an objectively good thing. Do not listen to bots and shills.
>>65418893The grapes are sour.
>>65418893lotta shitty niggers around here lately
I'M SORRY FOR DOUBTING YOU CHEETO MAN
SILENCER SHOP UPDATE VIDEO!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwr7DwFBMrM>SILENCER SHOP UPDATE VIDEO!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwr7DwFBMrM
>>65418917Still confused about building sbrs.
SilencerShop becomes the first plaintiff to announce their Sales planhttps://x.com/silencershop/status/2087736690907529596
>>65418873Nuke Tel Aviv just in case
>>65418931Starting 12:01am on August 13, 2026, a federal court order takes effect. We sued the ATF, we won, and Silencer Shopcustomers win with us. Get a suppressor or an AOW from Silencer Shop in a state without a state-level NFA requirement andyou can skip the Form 4.Fill out a 4473. Pass a NICS background check. Take it home, same as any other firearm. No Form 4. No registration. No wait.The protection exists because the product came from Silencer Shop. The court's order covers Silencer Shop customers, so buydirectly from us or from a Powered By Silencer Shop dealer stocking inventory that originated with Silencer Shop, and eitherway you are inside the order.Twenty-seven states do not require NFA compliance at the state level. In those states you are done at the 4473 and you walkout with it. Fifteen states still require a Form 4 under their own state laws. We are fighting to get those changed, and untilthen we handle the NFA paperwork for you like we always have. Full state-by-state list is on our blog.One correction from last week: short-barreled rifles and short-barreled shotguns are covered by the order, but they stillrequire a Form 4 in all 42 states. The GCA is a separate law from the NFA and it still requires Attorney General approval forthose items, and right now the Form 4 is the only form that gets you that approval. We are working with ATF to create a newform for this limited purpose.This is a federal court ruling, so yes, this is legal. We will always shoot you straight: the government can still appeal, and ifanything changes you will hear it from us first. Buying from Silencer Shop keeps you inside the court's order while the caseproceeds.So no unregistered SBR's. That sucks.
>>65418873you can't use a vpn on 4chan
>>65418866>buy>>65418931Once a rifle always a rifle rule still in play I’d believe.
States where you can get a unregistered suppressor:
I hope this is the first nail in the coffin for the NFA overall. Imagine the bright future we could have, anons.Buckets of 10$ DIAS by the checkout counter at the LGS.Civilian machine gunnery matches.Civilian mortar competitions. Kel-Tec snorting a metric ton of coke and creating the wackiest AOWs ever constructed. Super effective silencers created using 3D metal printing, covering a whole wall of the gun store...
>>65418878>>65418866Or just buy your cans and sbrs from silencerco and psa.
>>65418944wait what? So if you still need fingerprints and NFA shit for an SBR, how is this any different from yesterday when you still had to file paperwork, but pay no $200 tax?
>>65418958The fuck MT, ND, MS, AK
>>65418958I'm going on a roadtrip to Arizona
>>65418973excellent question
Not to doompost, but what happens if the dems restore the tax stamp through reconciliation?Will there be a bruen common use angle to it at that point or...?
>>65418958>NC blueFUAAAAAAAAAAAAK
>>65418993Simply vote R in the midterms and it's a nonissue
>>65418993You go back to non complying. The only people that can ask for tax records is the IRS. Just don’t go rob a gas station with one.
ACK
>>65418993by that point suppressors, SBRs, and SBSs will be in common use and we'll just Bruen the law
>>65418958So, assuming that the free state that you travel to allows suppressor sales to nonresidents, it's a s simple as driving there, buying it, and taking it back to your home state that would've still required the form 4 if you were buying it there, huh?
>>65418990You dont even own a center fire gun mr gonzalez.
>>65419026No because interstate sales would still require the dealer to follow the law of the state you are a resident of. Now the big problem is that if your state requires NFA registration and the resident of a non-NFA state comes in with a silencer would you be screwed?
I'm not big into guns. Can someone explain what is happening to someone who's isn't in the know with all the gun talk please.I want to get a cheap suppressor for my rifles. Last I heard I didn't have to pay the tax. I live in an nfa state
Thank you to GOA's co-plaintiffs @SilencerCo and B&T USA for providing suppressors to be transferred tonight:SilencerCo Scythe Ti BLKB&T Print-XH RBS 556Silencer shop will price the suppressors at $17.76 and $19.34 https://x.com/GunOwners/status/2087748278762815648
Clearly kommandos do not know how the law works.>>65418759>The DOJ has turned a possible abolition of the NFA into at best a 2-year holiday in the 5th Circuit states.>in the 5th Circuit states.Geography has nothing to do with this ruling. The injunction is for the plaintiffs (GOA and its members, PSA and its customers, etc.) wherever they are physically located.
>>65418973GOA gets membership dues.
>>65418973The AG approval step is only for transfers of SBRs and SBSs, you can manufacture one by converting an existing gun without any NFA paperwork now
>>65418747>>65418917>>65419016https://youtu.be/28sF2-amfMI
>>65419046>>65418793The importance/value of "in common use" is massively misunderstood and overblown. Simply having a bunch of a certain type of gun/equipment in circulation does not provide the legal protection that the online 2A crowd thinks it does. It's a nice stat to be able to cite, but it's not a magic feature that deletes gun regulations.
>>65419028Who says I can't put one on my musket? It's possible.
>>65419060>>65418816Again, location does not matter for this ruling. If you are a member of the GOA, or buy from PSA/Silencer Shop, you are protected by the injunction. It's not limited to Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc.. >>65418837>You can't expect them to understand legal precedent.In fairness, a district court ruling doesn't really set precedent legally. Not in a meaningful way.>>65418866Yes, if you are a member of GOA, or are buying from PSA/Silencer Shop.>>65418893Today's development has positives and negatives. This is objectively the biggest dent ever made in the NFA. This is really good. However, many people wanted it to advance through the court system so it could create stronger precedent and perhaps ultimately be eliminated by the SCOTUS. Doing that would have risked the case losing on appeal/at the SCOTUS, so it's a trade off. Saying this is a loss is retarded, but there is truth to the idea that we could have gone farther and gotten more out of it.
>>65418958I fucking hate NC
Read the fucking court docs>Opinionhttps://foundation.gunowners.org/wp-content/uploads/177118845368-1.pdf>Orderhttps://foundation.gunowners.org/wp-content/uploads/137-FInal-Judgment.pdf
>>65419055Thank you. So does this mean we won't be able to buy factory new SBRs from online stores like PSA to ship to your local gun store and do the usual 4473? Only converting at home on our own?
>>65419072Grok, read this to me. Can I make NAPA oil filters into firearm suppressors and sell them to newly arrived Mexicans and Benezuelans yes or no?
>>65419026possession is variously illegal in those states without proper nfa paperwork
>>65418958I really figured Wisconsin would get theirs before Minnesota, that's nuts. Used to live in Wisconsin, it's not a retarded clown world, so I don't get it
buying a SBR still requires approval under the GCA, but there's no law for approval in the case of a form 1, which means you can "make" your own. so you can build one or put a stock on a pistol with no paperwork
So, it's now kosher for me to throw a vertical foregrip on my AR pistol without registering? Oy vey.
>>65418944Fuck I ordered a factory SBR last week and will still have to do a Form 4. Gay. At least we can put stocks on our pistols without doing Form 1 now though (as if I wasn’t already doing that).
>GOA's membership/donation page is back up! Thank you to all the patriots who support our lobbying and legal work to repeal the NFA!https://secure.gunowners.org/join
>>65418837We know what you are
>>65419100I would like someone to review this anonymous 4chan legal comment with another anonymous 4chan legal comment
>>65419100Is that expressly stated in the ruling?
what's ATF man gonna do now that he can't harass legal gun owners?
>>65419119Seems like jeetbot with a decade old script.
>>65418849Kinda reminds me of Haynes v. United Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States
>>65419132They still handle the A and T and E
>>65419135UnfViva Mexico
>>65419138I've always wondered what the a and t even do anymore. It's entirely legal to grow your own tobacco plants for personal use and make most forms of alcohol. Are there really dudes looking for moonshiners in 26?
>>65419132The ATF has been focused on harassing mom and pop lgs for the past 15 years if you haven’t been paying any attention whatsoever. Almost literally over dotted i’s and crossed t’s. Have you not noticed there’s almost no brick-and-mortars anymore? Like every other market post Covid lockdowns it’s all big chains and mega-corporations that own your business now.
>>65419146Licenses and finding interstate a and t tax evaders
>>65419146>It's entirely legal to grow your own tobacco plants for personal use and make most forms of alcoholIt's Commercial enforcement and preventing people from selling unlicensed products
>>65418759Anon, there are already cases heading to the USCC that will get rid of the NFA through Bruen; this particular ruling that is not being appealled was not even a 2A question, it was purely about taxation.
>>65418793Yeah like how AR-15s are the most owned rifle in the nation so no state can ban them under Heller....oh wait
>>65418940A moderate response
>>65418958>Minnesotans dunking on the CheeseheadsLmao
>In 30 minutes, GOA members @TheAKGuy and @WesVirdellTX will be the first to lawfully purchase unregistered suppressors since June 26th, 1934. We are making history as we restore our God-given Second Amendment rights!!
>>65419008Dems are at minimum sweeping the House. The Iran war is unpopular and has made a lot of Cheeto in Chief’s base turn against him
>>65419155Really, that should just fall under the jurisdiction of the FDA.The ATF is woefully redundant.
So what's next? Will us poor bastards in the ban states get any help in removing the restrictions? I assume the GOA/SS/PSA and all will push for a nationwide thing.
>>65419168I don’t care if he’s a YouTuber, I hope Brandon makes it to Congress
>>65419179The ban states will stay cucked until morale improves
>>65419168>4/5 mogged by cowgirl
So how does this affect me personally? I’ve bought like 4 guns from PSA
More information from Silencer Shop:
>>65418847Least retarded blackpiller
>>65419122i can do you one slightly betterhttps://youtu.be/L3RjRtjAN8k?t=5187
>>65419173Dems are fighting over gender liberals and gender communists. I could believe it but I’m sure it’ll still be funny
>>65419187>Ohio>any chance of repeal will need to go through either Kikey Noseberg or Shitdeep Diksukkar
>>65419184If you're in one of the states in the green list >>65419187then you can buy suppressors with a simple 4473, no NFA registration. I'd contact whatever store you plan to buy from to see if they'll require some form of verification that you're covered by PSA. I imagine there'll be some shops that want to cover their asses just in case, rather than simply processing every purchase they get.
>>65419193Could be worse. You could be in Michigan.
>>65419195RIP
>>65419184if you buy a can from psa it's just a 4473 unless you live in a state it's still banned.https://youtu.be/g2WW6S5XQ0g?t=254
>>65419189This guy sounds retarded and wrong >solvent traps and oil filter adapters are guns
>>65418847you don't understand how jurisprudence and the 14th amendment's equal protection clause works. also, why would the DOJ that's refusing to litigate this further suddenly decide to prosecute people for this?
>>65418902>thing is now free>thing is now effortless>therefore it's too difficult for some people so they are mad about itFucking what?
Ok suppressors are not that hard to make especially from those old 80% kits. Can you/ Do you need to do anything to make one yourself in one of the 41 salvageable states?
1 minute bois!
>>65419187As a Californian, congrats to my /k/ommandos in the free states, I hope this gets our state and others like it one step closer to full freedom from restrictions.One day, I will own a Mossberg Compact Cruiser
>>65419187Based Maine
>>65419202>thing is now free>thing is now effortless>Except they live in a cucked state and can't have it anyways so they're sourIt's not hard, anon
I CAN FEEL IT COMING IN THE AIR TONIGHT
THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!>THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!>THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!>THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!>THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!>THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!>THE RULE IS IN EFFECT!!!
A bigger issue is that now with two separate types of NFA Suppressors and now non-NFA suppressors there is probably going to be a dearth of NFA suppressors in the very near future. >>65419187I don't know how this affects the form 3 process and the backend nonsense.
What’s a good suppressor for the TX-22 on the affordable side? There’s so many brands..
>>65419187>This ruling covers suppressors and AOWs only -- it does not apply to SBRs or SBSs. Form 4s are still required for those items.WHAT THE FUCK!!! I WANT MY REAL STOCK ON MY MP5
>>65419198dld probably is, john crump writes better than he talks and is a respected firearms journalist who's very well connected. you're better off hearing a lawyer but at least he's not an anonymous retard.
PSA VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5-n7sp0ECw>PSA VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5-n7sp0ECw
>>65419215Maaaaaay not apply to form 1 equivalent actions? Dunno, look it up, get a lawyer, etc etc
>>65419203it's not 41 its 27. >>65419187
>>65419209What on earth gives you the impression they are cuckstaters? Why would such a person even be here? You're not making any sense.
>>65419227Are you actually retarded? We have EUROPEANS shitting up this board. Did you get your ID checked when you punched in the fuckin site URL or something?Retard. Bad LLM.
>>65419223Hey I didn’t say good I said salvageable. You guncucks are so resolved to defeat even on a victory day. Pathetic.
It is 12:01 am on August 13th, 2026. @TheAKGuy & @WesVirdellTX are purchasing the first unregistered suppressors from @SilencerShop.These GOA members will not be filing a Form 4 or complying with the other enjoined provisions of the National Firearms Act.
>>65419187So, in effect, all this has really done is decreased the amount of states where suppressors can be legally owned/used. If you really think that states that will require the law to be rewritten will rewrite it in your favor I have a bridge to sell you.
>>65419237You mean sold. All the ones currently owned are legal.
Hope we can enjoy this the next few years cause come 2029 the progress on NFA reductions is gonna just end up reversed
>>65419236Is that Rittenhouse next to Herrera?
>>65419237You're trying your hardest, but you're just too damn dumb.
>>65419237No retard. NFA/ form 4 is not gone. Nothing changes.
Erich Pratt, Senior Vice President of Gun Owners of America, issued the following statement:"GOA fought to crush the NFA's unconstitutional restrictions through the One Big Beautiful Bill, but we didn't stop there. We promised to keep fighting until these restrictions were gone, and now our members are putting the historic victory into action. The era of federal registration for constitutionally protected arms must end."Brandon Herrera, Candidate for Texas Congressional District 23, issued the following statement:"I'm happy to once again be working with Gun Owners of America to help be the tip of the spear fighting for gun owners, constitutional rights, and civil rights of not only Texans, but all Americans."Dave Matheny, Founder and CEO of Silencer Shop, issued the following statement:"We couldn't be more excited for our customers, dealers, and the future of the Second Amendment. This is a huge victory, but we still have a long way to go; and Silencer Shop will continue to lead the way along-side GOA, FRAC, ASA, Silencer Shop Foundation, and the many other groups who are working to unwind the NFA. We're truly humbled to be part of such a monumental event."
How about forcing customs to stop seizing airsoft lowers?
>>65419252Lauren Spivey, CEO of Silencer Shop Foundation, issued the following statement:"This win belongs to the people and customers who made it possible. The Silencer Shop Foundation is funded entirely by supporters who believe law-abiding Americans deserve to exercise their Second Amendment rights, and their support let us take this fight to the ATF and win a strong ruling from the court. We're proud of what we've done together, and we'll keep working to ensure all lawful Americans are protected under this ruling."Jamin McCallum, Founder and CEO of Palmetto State Armory, issued the following statement:"Today marks more than the first NFA-free suppressor transfer under this injunction, it marks the moment years of fighting became real for the American people. We're proud to have stood alongside Gun Owners of America and others who made this victory possible, and we'll continue fighting to expand freedom and defend the rights of everyday Americans."Wes Virdell, Member of the Texas House of Representatives, representing District 53, issued the following statement:"It's hard to believe we have moved the needle so far. What was once considered unachievable is now a reality, because of Gun Owners of America and Silencer Shop. GOA never gave up the fight to get here. I am grateful to be a part of this history happening right before our very eyes."
>>65419242>/k/tard has momentous victory after 80 years like he’s been asking>12 minutes later back to doompostingCan you like go be a bitch somewhere else?
>>65419254Not firearms
>>65419257If that’s true why were they seized
>>65419260Because I was trolling you
>>65419261Ok
>>65419232then if you live in one of the states that tie possession to nfa registration your first step is to change state law, after you've effectively lobbied your state's government then if you are legally allowed to make your own guns you can manufacture your own.
>>65419260Do I type like your mom or something? I don't give a fuck how you're getting manhandled by the feds; airsoft guns are offtopic
>>65419248Right, but if the intention is to completely eliminate form 4 processing at a federal level for suppressors these states will be orphaned from purchasing any new suppressors. Obviously any transferred with a form 4 would still be compliant under state law. So, in effect, we have lost ground rather than gained it, should the intentions of this whole thing play out.
https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/2087766098531762537
>>65419270>Right, but if [retarded bullshit that's not happening]Form 4s are still needed for DDs, MGs, and AoWs, as well as for transfers for parties besides the declared plaintiffs.Please try harder with your blackpilling, or even better, go to bed, you're posting stupid things.
>>65419257uhh.... so if you get one of the umerex ar22s kits with ten minutes of whittling, they are.
>>65419268>I don't give a fuck how you're getting manhandled by the fedsL-lewd
one thing I'm questioning is how the ATF and government are supposed to know you're a member of GOA if you buy a suppressor unregistered with their membership
>>65419278You did not respond to what I posted in any way so I will just assume you are retarded and do not understand it.
>>65418958God I love being an Arizonan.
>>65419286I did respond; you read as well as you type. Here it is again: You're stupid, stop posting.
>>65419270No bitch having some parts of the country openly and freely operating outside of the the letters of the National Firearms Act is a good thing and great grounds for anyone else to stand on to change things further. The more suppressors that get made, bought, sold and distributed into the civilian militia is a good thing. Imagine guys with a 200 can collection and getting gifted one at a birthday. “Nothing ever happens” is like a damn religious mantra the demoralized seek to uphold now jeez
>>65419292So the lawsuit for eliminating the form 4 process for suppressors isn't trying to eliminate the form 4 process for suppressors yes I understand that you are substantially retarded and probably partially illiterate and communicate simply on vibes and auto correct and were probably also raped as a child
>>65419296Right but the "change" here would be appealing to the state to rewrite their laws and assuming that the state would be cooperative in rewriting that law in your favor.
I can’t believe anyone is celebrating this. We need the NFA in order to secure gun rights and making these changes just means we’re going to lose them sooner. I didn’t invest thousands of dollars into title II’s and transferrables just to have everything ruined by uncertain law changes and FRT’s. Hope you guys will enjoy paying $4000 tax stamps for suppressors in 2029!
>>65419298The way you attempt to but absolutely fail to grapple with verbiage and the core concepts involved in this lawsuit makes me think you're either a small kid or European. Which is it?
NEVA BIN DUN BEFOFUCK THE JANNIES
>>65419304I see you still have not interfaced with anything I've said and are just hunting for a response like a homosexual prostitute in heat on a miami beach and this will be my final time gaping your anus verbally because I have no interest in furthering your decent back into the early stages of your life (in which you were likely raped)
>>65419311Get back to /eftg/ you nigger
>>65419299Yeah ok so do it. Make it change. Or don’t and just die conservacuck
>>65419301So long fed boy
>>65419315I accept your concession
>>65419305This fucks. Get a cope grip for those ban-state abominabuilds
>>65419298You type like a 70-IQ ESL retard>>65419304You type like you're currently drinking something called a "honey blonde stout"Both of you kiss and make up. Then take pics. Then fuck off.>>65419299When there's a conflict between state law and federal law, the more restrictive takes effect. That would be the state law. Which means you potentially have a conflict between two states, or state law and federal law. That means it SCOTUS has jurisdiction. That's the ultimate goal, I assume.
>>65419321Post hand
>>65419305Lol
>>65419328Post dick
>>65419324Really funny for you to insert yourself in an argument and not realize you're replying to two of my posts in totally different tones.
Why is the thread devolving into shit flinging?
>>65419332Now you, hippie
>>65419339Some pathetic losses are addicted to losing
>>65419339A liberal attempted to use their typical tactic of pretending to not understand the issue they were arguing and upon being soundly shut down they resorted to their backup of being a nigger.
>>65419339People are so desperate for a taste of freedom that the moment you question the depth of something they'll start loudly bleeding from their anuses
>>65419339There won't be any suppressors to buy for months
Videohttps://x.com/gunowners/status/2087775714091130926
>>65419305I'm screencapping this>first /k/ommando to violate the NFA legally>>65419339idk
>>65419379Brandon Herrera doesn't have a concealed carry permit? That's strange?
I just bought a Rugged Obsidian 9 through SilencerShop. Will update on the process.
>>65419421He lives in TexAss. I'm pretty sure you can walk into a Walmart with a dozen ARs slung over your shoulder and it be perfectly legal there
Are you niggering me???? No SBR or SBS???? What?
>>65419421He may have wanted to do it with a paper trail, so that if the DOJ reverses, he can cleanly and quickly say okay here you go. Who knows though.
>>65419435We are not doing anything to you, God did THAT to you some years back.
>>65419430That’s most places bro even Hawaii and Mass
Sooooooo whats the deal with Sbrs?
>>65419215Im pretty sure they're wrong about it or it's a fake screenshot.
>>65419448I read that in my head as Jerry Seinfeld.
>>65419442old
>>65419305is your ghost gun serialized?
>>65419215>>65419448>>654194491968 GCA specifically prohibits transfers of SBRs and SBSs without gov approval, so until that gets cleared up the dealers are erring on the side of caution. This does not apply to building your own without registration, which is now legal barring any state laws
>>65419242That's not how the law works honey :)
>>65419371
>>65419454I did no research before picking, saving and posting that picture as if it were fact.
I JUST BUILT 100 UNSERIALIZED SUPRESSORSI'LL HAVE 1000 BY DAWNPROVE I HAVEN'TATFNIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS
>>65419456Yeah this ruling just cleared it up. It literally did so in the text. And it passed today.
>>65419456Is slapping a pistol upper on a rifle lower "building your own"? What about slapping an m4 stock on a pistol lower?
>>65419464So what's the quick rundown on buying SBRs from gunshops now?
>>65419448>>65419453Jerry would do great on this
>>65419479I love how they got fucked on shotguns.
>>65419466Is this your first time thinking of this. These are old questions. A rifle (could) not be turned into a pistol. A pistol (could) be turned in a rifle. If you got into a legal tremble involving your AR that is known by serial to have been a rifle upon manufacture and you slapped on a brace and pistol length upper you could have gotten hit with NFA violation. Are there any cases of that? Never heard of it but buying a stripped lower and throwing the same parts on? A OK.
>>65419488No, I already knew all of that and have thought about it a lot for my own uses in the past 10 years. I'm asking what has changed now since it is past midnight
>>65419464The ruling only applies to the registration requirements of the 1934 NFA. Transfers of SBRs and SBSs is explicitly regulated by the 1968 GCA. It's literally the whole basis of having to file a 5320.20 for interstate transport of SBRs and SBSs but not silencers, since they are not mentioned in the statute.>>65419466Just don't put a VFG on a pistol lower without a stock. AOWs are not covered>>65419475Form 4 still required
>>65419497Wrong on all.
>>65418958So I live in PA, If I were to join the GOA am I good? also does this also count making your ownb SBRs?
>>65419503No, you live in PA which requires NFA compliance as state law.
A part of me wants to think that the DOJ and ATF didn't appeal this ruling because it's super murky and unclear. The murkiness could allow the ATF to begin mass dog-killing raids on homes of uninformed people who cut their shotgun barrel thinking it was now not needed to register for the NFA
>>65419510gay :(
>>65419514Correct.
so for the anons living in the states that still require form 4's and want to contact our state legislature to have them change the laws to then allow NFA items without the form 4 what would be the best way to word it?
>>65419519You don’t know who I am but I know where you live
>>65419503You should join GOA anyway just as a thank you to humanity for advancing gun rights. That’s rare on earth at present
>>65419536>can I borrow some gas?
>>65419536cool, wanna grab lunch tomorrow at the gas station burger joint? say 2-2:30?
>>65418747Never let anyone tell you that voting doesn't matter
>>65419497Aows are not covered for some of the parties, Jeffers clique didn't argue it so they don't get them.
So does that mean Homemade suppressor are now legal to build without having to register? You can make Homemade firearms in most states without having to register it so I dont see why I can't do the same with suppresors if now all you need to is 4473 buy factory made ones.
>>65419229Europe has easier access to suppressors than the US does...
I'm dumb and from ohio. Does this mean I can go to gun store and get suppressors without filing or are we still cucked?
>>65419636No, Ohio is cucked by state law requiring NFA registration. Unless a repeal can be shoved through super quick I expect we'll be cucked for a while at that.
>>65419055So can i finally buy one of those factory glock 18 stocks and use it without paperwork? No more retarded chassis?
will this be a revolution now that any old austist ballistic hobbyist can play with rounds and calibers in sbrs now?
>>65419750lots of garage ballistic hobbyists in those states will be playing with 7,8,9,10,11 in ARs and PCCs soon. Theres going to be sbr bolt action speds and sbr finally all PCC will look normal and everyone will realize they suck ballistically and have Frankenstein compromise PCCs but under 16.
>>65419146Bubba still pays less for getting wife beating drunk when he can. It's still a thing.Tobacco is mostly about state to state tax evasion.There will always be explosives to regulate simply because of demo and construction.
>>65419270Broken bot? None of what you said made any sense
>>65419227I'm from a cuck state and I'm here to hope and today, I was blessed. Sure as hell not salty.
I have a can waiting for the stamp already at 29 days. In Michigan. I hope this somehow doesn't throw shit into legal limbo where they won't approve it now.
Another videohttps://x.com/gunowners/status/2087794946988183986
>>65419552I get what you're saying but seeing 2016 trump memes in 2026 is jarring
AAAAAAA I LIVE IN NC FUUUUCKI hate this state. Neighboring states please invade us and overthrow our retard governor
>>65419301the senate parlaimentarian was able to use the byrd amendment trick to temporarily stave off this exact scenario for as long as possible, but now it has happened.if a tax has to be above $0.00 to qualify as a tax, then the gun owners of america are right and are protected.in order to make the fee $4000 would require new regulation to specifically corral these new owners spawning like polyps all over the countryand since congress doesnt do new regulation anymore, just budget reconciliation omnibus shit, you will never get the doomsday scenario you proposealso race based districting became unconstitutional. it was pretty crazy how communist gungrabbers were just automatically given congressional districts to dilute an entire branch of the government
Suppressors count as handguns right so I can’t drive into South Carolina to buy one?
>>65419875You still have to do a background check like a normal gun and have the item be legal in your state, I assume since you're asking, the form 4 is still mandated in your home state so I doubt it
So. Can I slap a stock on my 7.5 inch ar "pistol" now?
>>65418866The silencero video is confusing me by saying you need a form 4 for an sbr. Is this true?
>>65419922I think this whole thing only applied to suppressors, not SBRs/SBS/AOW. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though. Either way I live in one of the shit states so I have to wait got the GOA to sue or for state government to amend the laws (never happening fuck you josh stein)
New PSA vidhttps://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/2087871796368330787
>>65419922You still need a Form 4 to transfer an SBR. The big thing is that you no longer need a Form 1 to manufacture one as an individual, so you can just go ahead and put stocks on all your “pistols” now.
>>65419970>so you can just go ahead and put stocks on all your “pistols” nowI thought this only applied to firearms that were bought from PSA.
>>65419954Thanks for the post also, AHHHHH i just ordered my Scar 15p from someone else than PSA 4 days ago since they didn't charge tax like PSA does, I could have just sbr'd the 15p from PSA and been under their umbrella protection.
>>65419976LMFAO NIGGER
If you 1. Purchased the pistol/rifle/shotgun from PSA, past or presentAND2. Are a current GOA memberYou can convert the firearm to a short barrel rifle/shotgun with no Form 1 procedure. Manufacturer does not matter. The legal firearm must be purchased from PSA, parts from PSA do not qualify a firearm from a different seller. You still need to comply with state regulations on SBR/SBS.
>>65419976Buy a mag from PSA.
>>65419986>mag != firearmThe dumb is strong in this one.
>>65419977I know big sad, just gonna have to form 1 like a cuck. >>65419986has to be atleast a lower, i worry for you bud
>>65418747>be GOA member>state allows SBRsSo I'm good to ignore Form 1 and start slapping stocks on my pistols and short barrels on my rifles?
https://youtu.be/rfSzfoo4hg0?is=LgZFj2Jjo3CtC6izwtf is this shit. I thought you had to be a GOA member OR a PSA customer to make an sbr. PSA is saying you need to be a GOA member AND using their products. wtf is this Judaism?
>>65419954
>>65420006It is very Jewish but atleast PSA has alot of poverty lowers that always go on sale for supercheap to begin taking advantage of this.
>>65420009But I don’t want to stick a ghetto PSA lower on a Gucci upper that has a can and frt
>he didn’t bulk buy $30 PSA stripsNGMI
>>65420020I have a anderson lower with my Fightlite MCR upper, ghetto means nothing if you're confident, only larpers care about rollmarks.
>>65420024I really thought about buying meme lowers, like the peanut one. Fuck why didn't before.
>>65420027I don’t want to discard my assembled lower with all the custom parts I want for some off the shelf poverty bullshit
Oh that sweet sweet shill salt. Oh the tears of trannies and faggots. SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.
live in a state with suppressor and SBS bans and PSA won't ship here no matter what (even if it's an allen key set) but I am very happy for all you faggots out there in America. it's nice to see shit go right for once, even if it's not perfect
>>65420020>yfw I'm running a PSA lower that's cheaper than my trigger
>>65420006>if you bought a qualifying complete riflebut nigga what if I just bought a PSA lower?how does this make sense
>>65419173>Cheeto in ChiefShills literally cannot help outing themselves.
>>65420058He's a r*dditor faggot trueBut you're retarded if you think Dems aren't taking the House.
>>65420058If you think Don “Take the guns first, go through due process second" Trump is a beloved figure here you’re mistaken
>>65419975No it applies if you ever or will ever buy anything from PSA, Silencer Shop, or are a GOA member.
>>65420074he was correct btw and this hobby is wasted on niggers like you who cannot appreciate real, incremental victories. democrats should win and take all your guns away
>>65420077That's just for silencers. Watch the video, dude.
>>65420074Does he give a shit about firearms, probably not. If anything, he probably doesn't like them. He does have a bowl of shit he has to eat everyday called the war with iran. I think he has to concede on this, though I'm surprised by the lack of mainstream media attention.
>>65418766ok you go first
>>65420057Scared for your paycheck?
>>65420066>>65420074>>65420091Shills on suicide watch as Trump somehow becomes the most 2A POTUS in history. You lost. Hold that L like it's your estrogen bottle, freaks.
>>65420088You can make an SBR if you're a customer of any of the plaintiffs. If you want to transfer an SBR, you need approval from the AG. Approval is explicitly granted with an approved Form 4, but if you really don't want to fill one out, you can try asking nicely. Once upon a time, the Form 4 process didn't automatically give this approval so people had to do that, too. Sometimes it even worked.
>>65420114You are a shill for free. Even more pathetic. Zion Don (4chan hated Zionism first) is not a 2A hero by any measure and has nothing to do with any of the success here
>>65420086Accrediting them to Old Zion Don in misplaced. And we deserve a better president than him who runs on gun rights as a key running platform.
>>65419954That's bullshit
>>65419025All of you better start buying like crazy, this is the best path forward
>>65420118His Whitehouse and appointees just sat on the DOJ bureaucrats who wanted to stay this injunction and fight this ruling.>>65420057Gonna take awhile for the adrenaline to wear off, even from manufacturers who are releasing what are probably incorrect statements. People really want their ammo order seven years ago to count, but they can always get a $25 GOA membership and be covered.
>>65419954They're lying, anyone can manufacture a sbr now
>>65419981They keep referencing "complete rifle" in the PSA video but by law the lower is the firearm, and I only bought my lower from PSA, from which I built a full sized rifleCertainly I would be clear to throw a DD Mk18 upper or something on to convert to an SBR?state law just says SBRs are legal as long as they're possessed in accordance with applicable federal law
>>65420118Nice try but your inability to decide whether you're a concern shill or just screaming your TDS makes you painfully transparent. You. Lost.
>>65420050Sucks to be a CA fag who tax money goes to ensuring there are never a fair election. I love my state and yes moved out of another dark blue state. Fuck I love guns and freedom
>>65420123And here we see the ESL start to peek out as the shill moves away from his approved shill text, becoming stilted as the urge to scream at the White Devil overcomes his turdie brain.
>>65419187enjoy the suppressors anonsI'll just be here... in New York...
What are some anti-gun subreddits to go collect salt from in this time of great gloating?
My current understanding from having read Section 5 "Remedy" of the actual ruling in "Silencer Shop Foundation ET AL, Plaintiffs v. BATFE et al, defendants" is that being a GOA member ALONE, current or future, qualifies an individual for injunctive relief meaning that the defendants, the BATFE et al, are legally prohibited from enforcing the SBR, SBS, Suppressor and AOW form 1 and form 4 requirements against said plaintiff (GOA members)..... As a GOA member and subject to state law... You can manufacturer as an individual not for purposes of sale SBR, SBS, AOW, and Suppressors without F1... Similar to making an 80%->100% AR lower has been in the past. ... It should be noted that you don't have to be a customer of PSA or Silencershop or other commercial plaintiffs to receive injunctive relief IF IF IF you are a GOA member (current or future)
>>65418788> all of 4chan is pretty effectively demoralized and only used for surveillance and porn distribution. Has for a while.You can thank glowies for this
>>65420183Bro, my state (GA) was a plaintiff and we're still required to register form 4 bullshit. My congressman, Andrew Clyde, was the guy pushing hard for this thing and we're still cucked. How do you think we feel?
>LGS says they're waiting to hear from their ATF rep before they drop the formsSo close bros.
>>65420188I think what PSA is saying is you can't buy a 14 inche upper from them and manufacturer a SBR as a customer. You can buy a completed SBR rife however. To manufacturer an SBR you need to be a GOA member.
>>65419981They don't say that's the only way to do it. If you are just a member of GOA, and live in a state where it's legal, it should be federally legal to make sbrs, sbses, aows and silencers.
>>65420202They're saying buying a firearm, so buy a lower as that is the legal definition of a firearm according to the ATF and build a SBR
>>65419187>free states>MinnesotaI didn't expect that. I'm going to my LGS today to check.
>>65420188>just pay me 25 shekels a month so you can exercise your constitutional rightsNo. Fuck you. I will continue to refuse to comply.
>>65418759Not true and you are gay and retarded for trying to blackpill an obvious win.
>>65420207Minnesota chad here. My LGS isn't dropping the forms yet. They're talking to their ATF contact before going ahead.
>>65420214I'll keep that in mind, I still want to go and ask them about it.
>>65420208Its $25 a year not a month, you can join any of these orgs for protection if you don't like goahttps://www.nraila.org/articles/20260812/what-does-the-texas-nfa-decision-mean-for-youPick one from the silencershop group if you want aows, watch out for the ones that are legal action portions of groups with distinct member organizations, they are sometimes seperate entities.
>>65420187The anti guns have been shockingly silent about all this
>>65420208Also the government would have a hard time proving you're not a member, since they won in court about turning over their membership rolls.
>>65420228Okay, I will join the State of Wyoming and continue to illegally manufacture suppressors for my personal use.
>>65420214Despite all the hoopla it seems like everyone is (appropriately) moving cautiously on this. I’m not seeing a run on cans on silencer websites. Slow is fast IMO
>>65419099>>65419167>>65420207The gun laws are not that bad compared to most blue states.
>>65420231They could just subpoena your bank records to see if you ever paid dues.
>>65420243and it would then go to court and they would lose again on 14th amendment equal protection grounds or attempting to relitigate the $0 tax thing and getting it called unconstitutional again
Wow PSA lowers are so good they’re protected by federal laws. Wow
>>65420114>>65420176
>>65420208Based
>>65420250>/k/ tried to clown me for building from a PSA lower>mfw the turntablesTime to buy a MK18 upper, move the foregrip and light over to that with the red dot, no magnifier, then throw a bipod and ACOG or LPVO on the 16" upper and keep that as a dedicated precision plinker
>>65420254Seeing how this is so constantly shilled, I imagine that context changes the meaning of a cherry picked clip.
>>65418893Anyone saying it’s bad is jewish, Indian, or noguns. Ignore them.
>>65420222>>65420238I wonder if big corporate places like Scheels will be even more cautious.
>>65420254All bullshit aside name a more effectively 2A president than Trump in the past century
>>65420202Ehhh.... What I heard in their most recent IG video was that Oi Vey be a good goy and buy your lower/firearm from us and be a GOA membah and you can make your SBR/SBS without F1 (assuming good to go with respect to wrt state law).... when the reality is you could just be a GOA member and do the same.... you don't NEED to have bought the firearm/lower from one of the commercial plaintiffs. >>65420203+1But PSA in their recent video on IG made it sound like you had to have bought the firearm/receiver/pistol/shotgun from them. >>65420238Smoove is fast! >>65420250Lol right faggu PSA doing faggu PSA shit>>65420266Except that is bullshit, so long as you're in accordance with state law, if you're a GOA member you can manufacture or reconfigure an already manufactured firearm/rifle/pistol/shotgun into an AOW, SBS, SBR etc (and this applies to suppressors also) without ATF Form 1..because the injunctive relief specified by the ruling prohibits the ATF from enforcing the NFA without the tax.
>>65420238The ffls are probably the bottleneck, they are waiting for atf guidance on how to handle all this. There's tons of paperwork questions on their end, like form threes they have to fill out by law that may not apply anymore.
>>65419510You could argue that I am in compliance with the NFA by being a plaintiff and therefore exempt from PAs banned "offensive weapons"
>>65420328>Except that is bullshitkek I know it's just funny to meme my PSA lower that cost less than my trigger assembly
>>65420202No it’s because of something in the 1968 GCA that requires existing SBRs and SBSes to still be transferred with Form 4s. You can buy a 12” upper from PSA and slap it on a lower or put a stock on your existing pistol if you’re a GOA member without filing a Form 1 now since that counts as “manufacturing,” not transferring. You only need a Form 4 now if you buy an SBR direct from a dealer.
>>65420346But do you want to argue that in court? Someone should but it's a tough haul, ideally they should just amend the state law. There is tremendous interest in this, that might not be an insurmountable task if you can get some traction on social media calling on legislators for change, hell if you and a group of friends call them you might be able to move the needle.
>>65420338Agreed. I would be nervous to get too crazy. On the plus side this means we may avoid a huge run on cans and production can ramp up in a less frustrating way
So can you buy a suppressor in a state where you’re not a resident? Like how Californians can buy 30 round mags in Nevada? Or is that still frowned upon.
>>65420379Silencers are still legally considered firearms that require Form 4473 to transfer so probably not.
>>65420379I think that you still have to fill out a 4473 for a suppressor, meaning the FFL probably won't sell you one if you're from out of state. Same as a firearm.
>>65418948>Once a rifle always a rifle rule still in play I’d believe.That's 2010 shit. Look up atf 2011-4.
>>65420357>But do you want to argue that in court?i mean someone has to. you cant get anywhere if everyones being a pussy trying to tip toe around the dying remains of the nfa
So I was actually thinking of picking up my first shotgun before all this happened, should I hold off another 6 months to see if any cool new shit comes from all this?
>>65420434If you buy something like what’s in your pic then basically nothing changes because it will still have to transfer to your LGS on Form 3 if you buy it online, and then transfer from your LGS to (You) on Form 4 unless the Attorney General says he will now accept Form 4473 for approval in lieu of Form 4.https://youtu.be/-sAEcbETN-8
Florida has a state law regulating sbr/sbs. It has to go through the NFA.
>>65420250PSA wants to be Raregreed but they're retarded bubbas
>>65418973My understanding is if you buy it, yes. You need a form 4 for the transfer. PSA said if you buy an SBR directly from them you’re good, so I’m admittedly confused. Form 1 registration is gone though. So buy a shotgun and chop it, or buy a lower and slap a pistol upper on it and your good. I think.
>>65418993Common use through Bruen at that point. Dems will barely take back the house and I doubt they burn what little political capital they have on gun control. It’s been a losing issue for them for nearly 2 decades now.
>>65420214just checked, they're doing the same thing. as expected.
>>65419132Shoot more dogs. Have more gay sex with each other
my LGS cucked out this morning
>>65419215>buy “pistol” mp5>buy stock>put stock on pistolCongrats anon you “manufactured” a SBR and Form 1s are no longer required. Have fun.
>>65420484Its the single most popular issue with black females though, the absolute top of a progressive stack. If you don't go hard for gun control it will be be bad.
>>65420295See that's the thing, they can't, especially not with dem presidents.
>>65419242Post a single gun you own
>>65419244No
>>65420489>>65420530Damn. Sad to see that this anon was correct:>>65420338
>>65419301Solid bait
Someone who speaks legalese: Will there be potential for the GOA to sue states or somehow push at the national level for suppressors to be free from restrictions for us in NFA states? Will the ATF ruling overrule state law?
>>65419339Shills and blackpillers hate winning
>>65420484I’ve actually gone into gun control subreddits and the few comments are calling this a nothingburger and that they use suppressors in Europe. I don’t think they want to spend the political capital to fight this.
>>65420640If the specific state law referred to a federal approval scheme that didn't exist, you could go at it from the angle of it being invalid because of a lack of due process to comply but that would be kind of tough because as far as I know the ATF is still accepting form 1s/form 4s. I think you'd be better off trying to get them repealed at a local level or getting the ATF to gut their form 1/4 process and making it like a 4473. The state level legal battles in the courts could take years and years anyways and there's nothing blocking them from just outright banning NFA items like New York does
>>65419614In my understanding yes. It removed form 1s so you can make your own suppressors, SBRs, and SBSs without registration. Probably best to get a GOA membership to cover your ass just in case.
>>65419989>PSA customer Anon what’s a customer?
>>65420392If silencers are just plain old title 1 firearms now what's stopping me from just paying cash for one at a gunshow
>>65420825Interesting point. I guess only the state laws would matter in that case?
>>65420802>Probably best to get a GOA membership to cover your ass just in caseJesus fuck did you even read the ruling? Being a GOA member is not a just in case cover your ass, it is a necessary condition in order to be subject to the injunctive relief specified in the remedy section of the ruling. Only plaintiffs in the case (GOA members current and future) are subject to the injunctive relief. You MUST be a GOA member or otherwise be a plaintiff in some other capacity (read the fucking ruling) to be able to manufacture an SBR, SBS, AOW, or Suppressor sans ATF NFA Form 1 submission and approval. Come on people. READ. https://www.wiley.law/assets/htmldocuments/Silencer%20Shop%20Found.%20v.%20Bureau%20of%20Alcohol%20Tobacco%20Firearms%20and%20Explosives%20Memorandum%20Opinion%20and%20Order.pdf>>65420825>>65420868This is a curious consideration. I believe that it is at least possible that in states that allow for private sales between non licensed individuals... if both individuals are considered plaintiffs in the current case (GOA members etc), then perhaps SBS, SBR, AOW, and suppressors can just be "transferred" between the two private parties like any title 1 firearm previously could be. The reasoning is just an extension similar to how now the individual private manufacture of SBS, SBR, AOW, and Suppressors FOR A PLAINTIFF if the case is not subject to ATF NFA Form 1 requirements, it is treated like the private manufacture of any title 1 firearm
>>65420203This whole>Just join the GOA and be put on a list Makes it look like they never really cared about more than just having a list of freedom appreciators on file and easily accessible. I'm keeping my tin foil hat and gun ready but you Amis be happy nonetheless.
>>65420208It’s $25 a year and you don’t even own guns
>>65420238There probably won’t be as much of a run on them as earlier this year. Efile is pretty smooth through the silencershop kiosks and the $0 fee is more impactful. Yeah a lot of guys don’t want the NFA hassle, but the 15 extra minutes isn’t that bad if you didn’t pay $200
>>65420229They're in this thread malding
>>65420558> Its the single most popular issue with black females thoughNo one gives a shit what sheboons think. Not even democrats>the absolute top of a progressive stackIt hasn’t been the top since Obama left office
>>65420975The plaintiffs also included PSA customers. Of which I, and probably everyone here, is. For anyone willingly to risk it, and on the outside chance you’re somehow arrested because you shot an SBR at a range and happened to have an overzealous cop, you are almost certainly going to win a legal battle and get suppressors removed from the NFA nationally. There’s no argument to why a GOA member and a non-GOA member are treated differently. I don’t want to be the guinea pig, but I’d win.
[YouTube] NFA Update - SBRs & SBSs | Palmetto State Armory (embed)"@SuperiorAdventureGearYou only need to either be a GOA member OR a PSA customer""6 hours ago@jacobstrawn4174the commenter is correct. The video is just lying. PSA wasn't even the lead plaintiff.""5 hours ago@jacobstrawn4174 if this were true, you would have to satisfy being a member of every single plaintiff LOL. This video is infact incorrect. You can be a GOA member and turn any ar pistil you own into an SBR. Doesn't have to be from PSA."Got a good goy here!"@MalfeasanceQ 8 hours ago (edited) They probably (and rightly) want to get as many people to buy their firearms from them to SBR. They have a company to maintain and keep alive after all and attorneys cost money. ""@Endmonaut 8 hours ago If both Palmetto State and GOA were plaintiffs in this suit, why would you need to fulfil both conditions of buying from PSA and being a GOA member? Shouldn't one of these suffice?""@winstonsyme1 hour ago You don't. PSA is trying to make sure you buy only from them so they can maximize sales. If you're a GOA member you don't need to buy from any specific merchant. If you're not a member you have a limited list of options to buy from."@LonginusModus 4 hours ago They are using their injunction to promote people to purchase from them, simplifying it for the simple minded and easily influenced.
>>65420379Silencers are not pistols/handguns so you should be able to buy one in another state but I doubt any FFL would take the risk for now.
>>65420735>nothing blocking them from just outright banning NFA items like New York doesExcept a couple supreme court rulings but those are worth about as much as the paper they're written on in 2008+18.
>>65418747Commiefornia fag here. There's something I find interesting about this new ruling because of the AOW loophole we currently have here in faggot central. Pretty much all NFA items for the exception of AOWs are illegal. But I think I been thinking about is that since this ruling essentially allows for unlimited unregistered AOWs, no Form 1s required. So long you are a member of the plaintiffs. The question I been thinking, is that now if the route in California if you wanted to get something closest to an SBR is get yourself an AR lower registered as a single shot pistol and slap a VFG on it, then convert it to semi-auto without the requirement of a Form 1. So long as you can prove yourself to be GOA member.
If there’s anyone familiar with the business side of things, can you answer a question for me? Do dealers that deal in NFA items keep separate books for NFA and regular guns? If so, could it be a potential issue with a suppressor coming in on a Form 3 last week and leaving as just a regular firearm with a 4473 today? I don’t foresee an issue with this administration, but I can definitely imagine a world where some grabber president comes in and fucks over dealers over mismatched paperwork.
>>65420379nigger just read your state laws
>>65420810That's just for suppressors, you stupid nigger. For SBSs and SBRs, they need be firearms that were purchased from them. JFC how many of you double digit iq retards are farting around?
>>65421785>they need be firearms that were purchased from themGoa member, make your own.
>>65421801I've been thinking about investing in a CNC machine to make and sell molds.
>>65421419yeah, I think you're right about this one wuggy. You're right in the /arg/ thread too
>>65418747So ohio anons are just fucked? Follow the same process as usual? How gay.
>>65421765This is one of the primary reasons most dealers are not simply jumping in both feet first when it comes to transferring suppressors via 4473>>65421785Do not I repeat DO NOT regurgitate PSA's self interested misinformation. You do NOT need to have purchased the firearm/pistol/shotgun or 80% suppressor kit lol from PSA in order to make an SBR, SBS, AOW, or suppressor without form 1 registration as a plaintiff granted injunctive relief by the ruling. Read the ruling yourself. Being a plaintiff in any capacity, for example just being a GOA member current or future, grants you injunctive relief from the challenged NFA provisions of which are included USC 5822 which is what codifies the Form 1 requirement. You can make your SBR or SBS out of a pipe and a nail if you want... No Form 1 required (subject to state and local laws).>>65421854It isn't that "I'm right". The words mean what they mean. My understanding of them appears to be well aligned with the understanding shared by a lot of other people, you included perhaps?
Hey look, you're now a member of the class in perpetuity and you get a cap to remember it.
>>65422055I have bought something from PSA before, like years before, does that mean I'm free?
gunngear says he was told that Trump intervened personally in the decision after being briefed with his Clyde interview
Oh shit, I bought my PMXs through PSA. Not that it matters apparently.
NC here. Not clear if I can order online but just not buy from PSA in state?>>>It is not available at our North Carolina or Georgia stores. Suppressor purchases at those locations continue on the traditional path — Form 4, ATF approval, and entry in the federal registry — with no change.>>>This is not an oversight. North Carolina and Georgia law each treat suppressor possession differently than South Carolina law does and until we have further guidance, we are not making any changes in those states.It is not available at our North Carolina or Georgia stores. Suppressor purchases at those locations continue on the traditional path — Form 4, ATF approval, and entry in the federal registry — with no change.This is not an oversight. North Carolina and Georgia law each treat suppressor possession differently than South Carolina law does and until we have further guidance, we are not making any changes in those states.
>>65422131NC has a law that NFA items must be authorized by the ATF. Even if it didn’t we couldn’t drive over to SC and buy a suppressor since they count as out of state pistols.
>>65421011They already know who you are dumbass
>>65422081PSA is so based. Love their new logo, I wonder what inspired them to make it
>>65420254he is describing a citizens arrest which has always been legal
>>65422104no. you need to join Gun Owners of America, Inc., Firearms Regulatory Accountability Coalition, Inc., or Gun Owners Foundation for full effect, it only applies to psa customers in that they can now sell suppressors without nfa paperwork.
>>65422190i like walt's better, I should get one of the shirts.
>>65422226I bought a shirt with one of his beautifully made MP5k stocks. Shirt wrinkles like shit but its pretty dope
>>65422219What I bought the pistol from their online store?
>>65422334From PSA, to be specific.
>>65422334no, previous purchase doesn't count. goa costs $25 a month and they will do better things with it than almost anyone else you might give money to.
>>65418759You’re too smart to be here, you’re upsetting the MIGAdrones
>>65422177Tone it down a bit bud, it's blinding.
>>65421669And sheriffs refusing to enforce it.
>>65422108Oh no no no shillsisses we need a new narrative...
>>65423057Replying to your own post is a bad look, son.
