I haven't seen any combat footage of these guys in ages.
>>65425655>he doesn't know
The superiority of fuel-air explosive or thermobaric warheads over HE warheads is highly questionable.
it turns out that it is incompatible with life to drive a T72 with five tons of insanely short-range high explosives on your roof.
>>65425655They should repurpose it into AD
>>65425675They do use them as Anti Drone devices, whenever one is destroyed so is the 50 Dollar Hohol drone in the gigantic explosion so it is really a decisive russian victory.
SRM launchers are dangerous as fuck but only in the right places
>hey guys I havent seen any passenger pidgeon footage in ages, how come?
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>>65425655just get yourself a telescope and you'll be able to watch one flying in orbit
i never got the idea why waste a tank chassis on something that violently combusts if you look at it the wrong way want it to keep up with armored formation? why not use the various light tracked vehicles as a base
shut up nigger
>>65425733They had a bunch of T-72 chassis laying around.
>>65425733They had a lot of tank chassis and the logic was they would be fighting in the open terrain of the Soviet Union where armoured thrusts could be blanketed with mass thermobaric warheads. The fact you're 7km from the front isn't an issue at that point. The other reason was to deal with people in fortifications and mountains and other dense environments.
>>65425751>had
>>65425655I think they all got literally blown up lol.
>>65425655Very short range.Very flammable. Expensive. Limited production. Cant really put an effective cope cage on it. It is most effective against entrenchments with a lot of concentrated forces while now the line of contact is a very low density massive grey zone. Tldr is to easy to blow up and short range.
>>65425655stupid but looks cool
>>65425655That's because the effective range of the TOS-1 is within the effective range of most ATGMs, much less drones
>>65425751>>65425752ye but they also had a bunch of mtlbs and bmps too
>>65425655
>>65425655If you look closely in some drone footage you can still see parts of them falling from the sky after they were hit last year.
>>65425984This is parody, right?
>>65425839Out of all of Russia's arsenal, the TOS-1 is the most purpose-built terror weapon of the lot. It's only good for blowing the crap out of unfortified villages and the like with no weaponry worth a damn. Which is to say, it is only effective against civilians. And they were perfectly fine with that.
>>65425984>>65426174Not sure, to be quite honest I don't care, looks cool.
>>65425740Mod as dead as any hope of Puccia ever having a functional military again
>>65425733it's to obliterate defended positions or city ruins. (and civies as a bonus). but by now you don't get anywhere close to dense city without being poked by drone and exploding.if israel was really the nazi state they are accused of being, it would be the ultimate warcrime machine for gaza. unfortunately for ruskies, ukraine is too contested and too many fields to use it "properly"
>>65425733The actual launcher and missiles are so heavy that your typical GAZ truck seen hauling BM-21s would collapse under the weight, so its either a tank chassis or one of those massive 10x10 vehicles used as TELs for ballistic missiles and Im sure I dont need to explain why the latter is a poor choice for a close range artillery platform
>>65425655Like the HIMARS they’ve all been destroyed
>>65426314Forget drones, the range of the TOS-1 is so short that you could deliver effective counterbattery fire with a large mortar>TOS-1 Max Range: 3km>120-PM-43 mortar Max Range: 5.7kmGranted there's the TOS-1A with a slightly improved range of 10km but how many in theater are 1A variants is anybody's guess
>>65425839>>65426314these cunts explode so beautifully
>>65426314the idf already has an equivalent their engineering vehicles sometimes have a CARPET launcher which is basically the same just branded for mine breaching
>>65425839do you think they tikayu'd in time of the big boom?
>get a CAS capable plane (many since PGMs)>drop a PGM actually on the enemy>???>PROFITWhat's the point of this dogshit death trap on tracks?
>>65426486>What's the point of this dogshit death trap on tracks?Roasted ziggies))))))
>>65425664Coal dust costs pennies and the dust gets everywhere. Can't be used in all conditionsHE needs to be proper packed with actual explosives. Can go boom whenever.You're welcome.
>>65426486>big boom means we strong blyat)))))))))))You'd be suprised how much thirdies, puccians included, care about appearing strong rather than actually being strong as it's cheaper. The problem is these stronk propaganda weapons are more of a problem for yourself than the enemy when you decide to throw your purely aesthetic military into a full-scale war.
>>65426377fuck that's beautiful
>>65426486You are 1980s Soviet Union. You have neither money, industrial base, nor technical capacity to acquire, produce, and deploy PGMs on a wide scale. You do have T-72 and Grad.
>>65425655They only had like 40 total, and they're pretty short range for artillery so they don't have the luxury of distance that gun artillery or BM27s or even grads have.
>>65425984Somewhere, Dale Brown just had a drone-induced stiffy and he’s not entirely sure why.
TOS-1 had like 3km range, if ruskies were comptetent it could be third best warcrime weapon in their arsenal for obliterating defence and cities turning any sort of defence into Grozny 2.0 but good luck using TOS-1 in age of drone warfare and how detailed is NATO intel and how Ukraine actually listen to it. >>65426377literally driving powder keg
>>65425682dosent seem to work, this is MTLB but drone is ok
>>65425733it's a terror weapon meant to terrorize civilian populaces into submission or to be used in reprisal for insurgencies to simply just level the area
>>65426486>drop a PGM actually on the enemy>RussiaFound the problem.
>>65425655Here's your answer lol, they probably completely ran out of them.
>>65427264lol
>>65426486>get a CAS capable planeNATO shoots it down.
>>65425973I was under the impression they couldn't take the launcher + rocket weight.
>>65425655There were never very many of them. They are/were big drone targets and unguided rocket barrages aren't really meta right now. If a target needs pasting send in a FAB.
>>65427350I remember a month or so ago Russia released a video of them dropping a glide FAB-3000 on some building. Gotta love big booms. It made me wonder if they'd go and do it to a FAB-9000 for the propaganda of it. But as far as I could tell (and using AI to confirm) you'd need to basically design an expensive kit to make it even viable on top of launching it from their irreplaceable nuclear deterrent aircraft. Still, maybe they should drop one on Belogrod and fill it.
>>65425733we have many tank comradehow could we possibly run out?
>>65427096The vehicle worked well in Afghanistan and Chechnya, but that's because it wasn't, you know, competent forces they were facing. USSR ran along the idea of 'lots of you are going to die, but that's a sacrifice the party is willing to make', so if you could get your TOS to launch 10 rockets each before they blew up, you might remove something of value. Same logic in Ukraine, except drones needed to just get an AT grenade on the launcher to cook them off.
>>65425655>>65425669Its really dumb. It was always really fucking dumb. the regular SPGs they make out of the hulls are fine, but this thing was always too short range and inaccurate to be anything other than stupid.
>>65427379I think it's diminishing returns going much bigger than 5000. I think they would rather carry multiple smaller FABs over one big one. Not actually sure about a 9000, would its greater weight cut the glide range by a lot? I would assume so.
>>65425655It's cool until you have to [spoiler] RELOAD [/spoiler]
>>65425655Lostech shortage.
>>65427142jesus, what the fuck was that apc filled with? a literal ton of RDX?
>>65428305Luckily Russia has that issue solved by having every instance be a one-time use vehicle
>>65428326That video is from 2023 or 2024 IIRC so my memory is a bit hazy. But I think they tried to drive a command-detonated demolition vehicle to an Ukrainian position which got stuck and then blown up. Like a zigzog Borgward IV.
>>65426345Could you engage them with an anti-materiel rifle?
>>65428330oh, so like a Borgward 4 kinda thing, got it
>>65428326probably something like this
>>65425984same energy
>>65428488>bombs AND kielbasaDECADENT
>>65425733the idea is killing insurgents.
>>65426174>>65426219Don't think so, unless Anduril is parodying themselves. It is cool though, and cooler with the music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4LOf_eleAM
>>65428339Conceivably, given the TOS-1 is made of materiel
>>65429072>made of materielCommon Soviet engineering L
>>65425655There were most likely fewer than 200 total TOS-1 and TOS-1A built combined, Anon.They're most likely just all gone. AFU claims around 100 killed with ~35 visually confirmed, and the rest probably rotted away in storage or got salvaged for spare parts.
>>65428326IIRC it was transporting TM-62 anti tank mines.Every one of these is 8 kg of TNT. Shit adds up.
>>65428488I had to look again to see if the thing on the lower left is a line charge, or just an XXL-sized punishment implement.
>>65429172Owari da
>>65425655could be useful
>>65425655The Ukrainian battlefield is currently flooded by metric shit tons of FPV drones that both outrange the TOS and that the TOS is massively vulnerable to on account of the whole "two dozen thermobaric rockets as a hat" gimmick. And that's in addition to regular counter battery fire. It also kind of suffers the same problem that infantry portable flamethrowers have. Namely that they're very conspicious looking weapons that *are* highly effective when they get close, and they inflict horrificly gruesome death and injury on their potential targets. This produces a psychological effect known as "everyone wants to kill fucking fuckers with fucking flamethrowers" And unlike an infantry flamethrower that you can kinda mock up to look like a rifle, a TOS is too distinctive to not get identified for what it is.
>>65427115>B52's carrying drones and power armor troops FUCK
>>65428493>The WWSD Rifle
>>65425984>Surface to Air Thermobaric MissilesBy Gawd!
>>65425733>violently combusts if you look at it the wrong wayThe T-72A through T-90M already do that so it's not like it matters.
>>65435193yea with a modern AT weapon here you can use a lot more than that
>>65425655Here's your footage, faggot: https://files.catbox.moe/yfobsf.mp4
>Great news comrade ziganon! Because of your superior performance in the rape portion of your training we're assigning you to crew one of the most dangerous vehicles in the russian army!>... dangerous to the enemy, right?>...>to the enemy, right?>da comrade, piggies will all die laughing
>>65425655You aren't looking very hard than. They still show up in drone compilation videos about every week. Every now and then you see OSINT Twitter posting videos of them on trains but I think the rate of production to being deleted on the battlefield is at a negative ratio right now
>>65427082thats AI you retard.
>>65427142https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B-ENGnB56A
>>65426377I lost my TOS-1 collection. Does anyone have more of these lovely fireballs?
>>65426377Crew listed as MIA, commander pockets their salaries.
Man, something really pissed off zigger shillsLove to hear their lamentations
>>65426377HANGALLWATERMARKFAGSALL OF THEM
>>65435852Given the resulting craters and the fact that Russians were on board, wouldn't the death scream of a Slayer from Krull be more appropriate?
>>65435999blame russians, they take UA videos and claim it as their own and show on national TV
>>65435840>thats AI you retardThe footage predates any but the most crappy of AI generated videos, retard.2023 tier gen AI video is shit like "Will Smith eating spaghetti".
>>65425740I would love to see a comedy mod update.
>>65425984Burgers?>>65426314The IDF has unironically been using trebuchets:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-nkCj7Ncg
>>65435988
>>65435840newfriends cant help exposing themselves
>>65435839Autism
what is the point of this thing?armored hull that doesn't matter since there's a couple tons of explosive on top of it in an unarmored box?!!?also explain this picturewhy is the box intact? they dont store ammo in the hull do they?i swear everything in this war is AI
>>65425655they're resting
>>65441799>what is the point of this thing?in a genuine large scale high intensity operation you'd have concentrated targets of opportunity near the contact line or fortified positions to bombard but the short range and poor weapon precision make it unsuitable for the low troop density fighting going on
>>65441799It's from the wars in Chechenya. Russians needed a way to destroy city blocks, and a Russian commander's authority only carries as far as he can yell so range is irrelevant, he needs to be able to grab Ivan Conscriptovich by the ear and point at the hospital he wants him to shoot at.
>>65427846It's fucking kino when you get one off in Warno though and the enemy's town turns into hell on earth with no survivors.
>>65434922I just imagined some poor russian bastard shoving and old pipe down one of the barrels hoping it makes them look like a tank
And I was taught that the appearance of this thing would be a major indicator of enemy force concentration. Basically, this would identify where the main enemy effort is likely to take place (or it could be a major feint too I guess).
>>65425655SRM carriers almost never survive contact with the enemy, anonymous.