When you're forging a legendary weapon to slay evil with, do you prefer adamantine, orichalcum, or mithril?
I like orichalcum being rooted in greek mythology (Not sure what the other are based in) but ori-chal-cum sounds silly.Orichalcite is fine. but ori's cum chalce is not.
>>65430234Cold Iron. It doesn't take an enchantment slot so I can craft a Cold Iron Greatsword with +1d6 acid, +1d6 cold, +1d6 electricity, and have a Druid cast Flame Blade for +1d8 fire and a mage cast Greater Magic Weapon for +5 enchantment.
meteoric iron
Marvel is gay
>>65430234>adamantineFuck off with your capeshit.
Runite scimitar
>>65430324>not dd(s)
What kind of crystal is the black hole sword made from in the Morgaine books?
>>65430263This guy knows.
>>65430234Whatever this thing is made of.
>>65430234about a year of time
>>65430234Daedric or nothing
>>65430250It's just brass dude.
>>65430234I throw tolkienfags in the woodchipper and fertilize my fields with their remains
>>65430234Wolfram cuz it sounds cool.
>>65430363>Needing a physical sword instead of just swording so hard your soul becomes a sword
>>65430342It may infact be made of moon light.
>>65430356is that asherons call?
>>65430494Everquest, the warrior 1.0 epic. Took over a dedicated year to acquire with a guild of 100+
>>65430481The base form of the blade has to be made of something. Otherwise, as a runner up, the Kirk Hammer or the Holy Blade considering the swords can seeming bare such weight.
>>65430323It's from RuneScape
>>65430323Capeshit is adamantium. Adamantine is the generic fantasy metal.
>>65430234>>65430250>orichalcumYou mean brass? You guys realize ancient names for metal doesn't make it magical. It was brass. Brass is fun to work with but its not some magic ore.
>>65430864Why must you disappoint me so?
>>65430864idgaf about historyfag revisionism, orichalcum is a magical metal that glows orange and you make legendary swords from it.
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>>65430472t. Emiya
>>65430234If it were up to me, I'd stick to a simple piece of wood. Wood never rusts, and is child's play to replace.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEgzm3C6JyA
TiChrome or Supersteel.
>>65430234>When you're forging a legendary weapon to slay evil withWhoa, whoa, cool it with the anti semetism.
>>65430234I would use an albino dragon's tail.
what is the real life equivalent of mithril?
>>65431240Aluminum.
>>65431255never seen anyone try to do a proper sword with it tho
>>65430234adamantine is typically just steel but stronger, sharper and more durable, mythril has the same properties but also is lightweight, easy to work with and shape when forging and also conductive to magic and enchantment. orichalcum is historically just naturally occuring brass aka "mountain copper" but DnD turned it into a yellow mithril copy more or less mechanically.depending on your setting the magnitude and scale of those properties can be relatively stronger or weaker than the other, for example adamantine might defeat mithril in durability and strength so ymmv.
>>65430234I prefer Hihi'irokane.
>>65431240titanium is like a 90% match. strong, lightweight, doesn't corrode, shiny and silvery, etc.it's just an absolute bitch to work with and doesn't emit light in the presence of orks.
>>65430342it's actually made of the crystalized tail of Seath the Scaleless.
>>65430864FUCK
>>65430234Mithril is the goat
>>65431287The hard to work with fits, it's reasonably rare too. That works for some dwarves or elves being the only ones able to mine/smith it. That being said, has anyone ever made a blade out of titanium?
>>65431354>The hard to work with fitsmithril is supposed to be super malleable and workable into intrcate details with little effort>That works for some dwarves or elves being the only ones able to mine/smith it.nah, it's just because it's ultra rare and humans cannot get to it but they can work it. dwarves dug so deep and got so greedy chasing after it moreso than gold. elves have it because they are immortal demigods.>That being said, has anyone ever made a blade out of titanium?do you live under a rock? that's such a mundane thing you can buy them readily made and shipped.>how do those swords farewell despite the strength titanium is less hard than tempered steel and so holds and edge worse and because the swords are made using steel ones as a template they turn out way too light to be meaningfully swung and cut stuff and their balance and weight distribution is all wrong. i am not aware of any attempts to make a sword design that would account for the change in density, even in such a simple way as making a smallsword that doesn't really need mass in the blade to be wielded effectively but maybe it does exist. a titanium sword would probably need to be either very thrusty one like the aforemention smallsword or be really broad and wide to put enough mass behind the edge to make a convincing cut. alternatively you could maybe use some other material as an insert to add weight in the right places instead but this creates all sorts of issues and complications in turn.
>>65431379also, titanium blade knives are extremely commonplace and are more widespread than ceramic, glass or whatever other non-steel materials are out there. despite the issue of edge retention they are popular because of their light weight, looks, corrosion resistance and not being magnetic, the latter properties especially important for diving knives and other similar specialized applications.
>>65431089and he did it all left handed
>>65430469Wolfram is just the european name for tungstenFor me, it's plain steel but well-forged.
>>65431379Ideally you'd want the body of the blade to be titanium, and fold an edge of steel for the cutting and thrusting edges then harden it. The weight-saving and strength of titanium, with the edge retention of steel.But is titanium flexible? The very best blades were coveted not only for their durability and quality, but because they could flex without snapping.
>>65431611in a regular sword you already have a way to do exactly that just using steel, it's called a fuller and it's a groove that makes the core of the sword light and thin so all the useful mass is in the edges. no titanium necessary and attaching the edges to a titanium core sounds awful.titanium is flexible enough, you can make bows out of it.
>>65431671Titanium sounds like just mallcore gimmick, then.What about a Caesium sword? It would be pretty dangerous.
>>65431676it pretty much is but part of it is that we've minmaxed steel sword design for centuries while titanium sword attempts were at best amateurish. it can still make a decent sword out of it if you design it around the material, it's just hard to do.>Caesiumsounds heavy. there's rimworld special the uranium mace if you want to fuck with radioactive shit.
>>65430319wait, what happens if you fail that QT? Does wolverine just yell without his claws out?
>>65431684A tungsten warhammer would go pretty hard
>>65430234Vibranium
Witchwood, spellbound black iron, meteoric steel
>>65431711there's a common misconception that a more dense material makes for a better blunt weapon. this isn't always the case, you want something that you can effectively swing in combat against a moving, defensive target while also moving and defending yourself. this is entirely different from just lifting a weight and dropping it down on something. that's why sledge hammers make pretty awful weapons for most people, they're way too heavy for that.historically warhammers had fairly small heads despite being made out of steel and there's next to no examples of them ever being reinforced with an extra dense material like lead as they were already designed around an optimal weight to be swung like that. all a more dense material will do in this case would make for a ridiculously tiny warhammer, assuming you retain the optimal weight of the head and not increase it.another thing is that blunt weapons don't need a lot of mass to function because a long lever already multiplies your force when you swing and the hardness of the head is very easily capable of dealing lethal damage to humans, even through some armor. something that wouldn't be able to bring people down without being impossibly heavy wouldn't make for a good weapon.
>shits on all the fantasy metal with my fucking stylin' wootz sword I bought in Byzantium during my time as a varangian
>>65431732on the other hand a titanium warhammer would be pretty interesting to see, you could get a substantially larger head that's still strong and hard to be able to more easily hit people with and be less likely to glance off.modern framing hammers also come made from titanium because you get a normal sized large hammer head with a wide face without being too tiresome to swing on a long handle so you don't need to bend much and use minimal number of swings to drive a nail.
>>65431735>not bringing an +ULBERHT+ sword that would snap his shitty jeet potmetal toy like a twig
>>65431748hope you didn't buy that in the norf, it's overpriced for frankish steel over there
>>65430363>worshipping demonsngmi>>65430234my weapons are made of paradoxes and exsanguinating dilemmas. my armor is time made manifest. i am impossible and inevitable.
>>65431951>worshippingdaedric weapons are literally made from daedra's souls, like fashioning a chair out of a carcass
>>65430234Shouldn't he be wearing a shirt underneath that mail?
>>65431379you could make a Titanium Estoc, no real blade but still has an "edge", the length would be thin but really strong and you just have to keep the very tip as sharp and pointy as possiblethen cut using the tip flicked across your target, and make the crossguard/basket really heavy to help with the 'flicking' motion.
>>65431984Who says he didn't?Who says magic mail needs an undershirt?
>>65431745I would imagine Tungsten also has different harmonics, whacking a steel warhammer into steel armor probably doesn't feel great in the hand.. according to google it does work better for reducing vibrations so maybe it would be better it a really long thin sword that can be flexible but wont 'wobble' as long or hardlike a tungsten rapier or fencing type sword??
>>65432048yeah, stabby things are the goto weapons because they only need a sharp point and blade stiffness, not weight.>and make the crossguard/basket really heavy to help with the 'flicking' motion.rapiers are already balanced appropriately for keeping a point on target and rotating the blade around it, if it's too heavy in the handle it'll be hard to control the blade because any swing or rotation in the handle will wildly move the light blade out of position. think of titanium as being just as strong as steel of equal thickness and just being lighter. you can make it thicker or winder to add strength of stiffness or you can retain original dimensions and net the weight savings.>>65432067harmonics are a very complex topic, there's vibration nodes that depend on the mass distribution, handle length, material, etc. if you want a hammer that doesn't bounce into your hand make it a deadblow hammer with some moving mass inside.>so maybe it would be better it a really long thin sword that can be flexible but wont 'wobble' as long or harda thin sword will inevitably be more succeptible to vibrations than a thicker one, no matter the material. it'll be more fragile too, especially if the material is very hard.>like a tungsten rapier or fencing type sword??you seem to still misunderstand what increasing material density results in. try to imagine tungsten running shoes and how it'd feel to use them even if you try to modify them to make them lighter in some way.
>>65431957i'm aware. it's funny anon said "daedric or nothing". this is an oxymoron. daedra are the epitome of nothingness, they are anti-creation. Tamriel IS, the rebellious daedra cry IS-NOT.
Question:Could it be possible to forge a simple weapon from the core of a dying planet that is undergoing Exterminatus 40K style? Weaponise the "scream" of the dying planetI have had this weapon in mind wanna called it "Cudgel of a Trillion Screams". It looks like a club that makes out of bismuth(more edges) with only the bottom smooth enough to be held by 1or2 hands.A weapon thats only used when fighting impossible odds. Not sure what "magical" dmg the weapon does apart of blunt.
>>65430234Good ol Bethlehem Steel any day.
>>65432269Closest thing, in 40k at least is that Maugan Ra used the heart of an Avatar of Khaine to temper the blade on the end of his big fuckoff gun. The blade ended up sharp enough that he can and has cut a bio titan in half with it. How did he do this despite the blade not being long enough for that you may ask? Shut up, space elf magic.
>>65431696Apparently the game does it for you
>>65432113>tungsten as an armor/weapon materialjust tell those retards to check how much weight a fist-sized cube of tungsten hasand then try to translate it into plate boots, yet alone entire armor and weapon
>>65432269>from the coreSure, you just need a bit of core material.>but wha-Your question is too open-ended for that.
>>65430864I thought orichalcum was actually supposed to be uranium ore?
>>65430319>>65430323https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdamantRead a book faggot.
>>65430864Brass is just fool's orichalcum.
>>65432543No, myth metal of Atlantean origin.
Call me boring but I prefer plain steelFor me there is just something special in the idea of a great evil being brought down not by magical power or legendary materials but by the humble quality of a skilled smith and a trained warrior
>>65431170> Whoa, whoa, cool it with the anti semetism.That would be gluing a penny outside a newyork deli
>>65433140Cope for people who can't cast enchantments.
I don’t care what my sword is made of as long as her boobs are big
>>65430234Generally Mithril is depicted as the best you can get outside of special snowflake materials that are used for one-off cool guy weapons, and Adamantine is the middle ground between a high-end steel sword and a Mithril one, so the logical choice is Mithril.Orichalcum is kind of a wild card, as it doesn't have a very consistent portrayal across fantasy media like the other two. I'd be very interested in the firearms applications of these metals if they were real, imagine an Adamantine or Mithril anti-material rifle that only weighs like 10 lbs
>>65430234I was always annoyed by Frodo's mithril mail in LoTR>It was close-woven of many rings, as supple almost as linen>'Well,' said Aragorn. 'I can only say that hobbits are made of a stuff so tough that I have never met the like of it. Had I known, I would have spoken softer in the Inn at Bree! That spear-thrust would have skewered a wild boar!'If the mail has the give of linen, it doesn't matter if it's impenetrable, the spear thrust would have simply pushed that shit into his entrails and killed him anyway.
>>65433399mail doesn't have give, just like chains don't, but it can be very smooth and supple and flowing when worn. this means that with a powerful strike the mail can be dragged into the wound without breaking if it's laying loose, but if you have it on your shoulders and secured with a belt at the waist then it will only give so much before being pulled taught and stopping.>>65433313>imagine an Adamantine or Mithril anti-material rifle that only weighs like 10 lbsouch
>>65433399It's magic. Blame the movie for not showing it better.
>>65430234You don't fight faggotry with faggotry OP. That mithril shirt might be an impressive knife blocker, but it's going to do absolutely nothing if you start chucking thermobarics at the poor bastard wearing it.
>>65430234Mithril is supposed to be incredibly light. I would not want that in a weapon for heavy fighting - it makes it very easy for someone to get control of your blades cross, and then you die.
>>65431696>fail that QTKek, what year do you think this is?
>>65431676>Caesium swordPresented without commend for your educational benefit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8YBJQDlOhA
>>65432269Pretty sure this is nieche lore that might no longer be canon.The mechanicum did harvest the "death scream" of worlds that were undergoing exterminatus and through some probably very heretical techno bullshit they used them to produce munitions.Again, not sure if it's canon anymore.
>>65430234uranium
>>65430234Tritium, everyone is getting cancer and glowing in the dark
>>65430234Wvlfonium
>>65434944Tritium doesn't glow in the dark, the inside of tritium vials is coated with copper-doped zinc sulfide, which emits visible light when exposed to alpha radiation.
>>65430469thought those were crack pipes from the thumbnail
>>65431598I know, but wolfram sounds cooler.
Dwarf Fortress' adamantine wiffle bats always made me wonder what a completely impervious to harm but weightless blade would perform like as a sword.Impossible to break, perfect edge that never dulls at all, absolutely no momentum past what your arm imparts.
>>65436041Obviously it would be amazing at stabbing and absolutely garbage at slashing.
>>65436041I feel like you might actually want to do something like fill the fuller with a heavier material, though I'd imagine an ultra-light rapier would be a duelist's dream.
>>65430234My sword is made from divine vibrations translated into human words to be read and spoken to any and all who listen. No devil nor daemon can withstand its might. Though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I shall fear no evil.
>>65434733I think it's properties ate generally why it's usually only depicted as being used to make armor. D&D even represents this in rules form by having armor made of mithrul count as one category lighter than what it actually is for the purposes of feats and proficiencies. This doesn't make a huge difference for a fighter, but for rogues it's a game changer because it let's them have medium armor without having to take a feat to use it, and for spellcastwrs it let's them have an AC at all without having to spend a spell slot on some kind of protection spell.
>>65440655Fuck off Paul, you bastardized the teachings. The kingdom of Heaven has always been here, you just gotta have eyes to see it.
>>65433399Hey you took my gif from that other thread!
>>65440763Unless your thread was in January I sincerely doubt it.
>>65433399
>>654333991. You're a gay materialist, and so you'll never be able to adequately interact with the meeting point of the symbolic and the physical that is Fiction. The material is supernatural, it's ability to inexplicably stop you from being harmed is no more supernatural than its ability to stay perfectly intact when a force that would tear the rings if made of any real world material is applied, but one "feels" more supernatural to you and so you complain.2. As other anon said, if tightly affixed, it doesn't really "give" as it were, so it becomes a matter of quibbling over "well how strongly was it affixed"3. Skewering a boar does not actually require much force. In the book, it is a Goblin who stabs him, a particularly large goblin (I.e. the size of a white man) but a goblin nonetheless. The film magnifies the display by having a Troll the size of an elephant ram the spear into frodo with all his weight behind it, after previously stabbing several inches into hard rock. I don't really consider this egregious, because again we're dealing with magical protection not just "magical hardness" but it is a notable difference regardless.
>>65430323Someone didn't have a full trimmed addy set to mog mithcels as a kid
