In the preparation for the upcoming Indonesian Independence Day today, an ecosystem of war birds has been displayed full force. A true "Tale of Twenty-two Cities," where American F-16s sit tail-to-tail with Russian Su-27/30s, British BAE Hawks, South Korean T-50s, and French Rafales.
>>65431453absolute nightmare of an air force I don't know what crack they smoke but 3 different airframes should cover 99% of their needs, fuck that even just buying the rafale+5th gen covers everything they would ever need
>>65431453>Independent>showcase foreign aircraft
>>65431642Like many turd world shitholes, their military purchases are purely political theater over common sense.
>>65431453>where American F-16s sit tail-to-tail with Russian Su-27/30s, British BAE Hawks, South Korean T-50s, and French RafalesEngineering & Logistics Jesus wept
>>65432853>Canada
>>65431453Imagine being the logistics officer and having live through the hell that is juggling the supplychain of all those planes to keep them all flying.
>>65431453>>65432886Indonesia has also just signed a deal for 48 Kaan from Türkiye. This will give them a fleet consisting of:>F-16>Su-27/30>FA-50>Rafale>Kaan>KF-21>J-10CThis will be the most powerful airforce in Asia
>>65433117I watched a video where some delusional leaf faggot claimed the method to the madness was the Gripens would be Europe-based and part of Canada's commitment to Baltic defense/air policing and thus piggyback off the Swedish/V4/Ukrainian Gripen infrastructure and supply chains while the F-35 did everything else. Personally I think they are simply too incompetent and poor to run a mixed fleet and haven't had the experience of doing so in the 30 years since the CF-5 was retired
>>65433667>This will be the most powerful airforce in AsiaHey IndoAnon, can you tell me what the longest ranged air to air weapons and air to surface weapons are available to the Indonesian Air Force? And compare that to Indonesia’s neighbours A2A and A2S capabilities.
>>65433748They got Meteors with the Rafales which puts them ahead of everyone else in the region. The only thing that comes close atm is the AIM-120D-3 which only Australia has
>>65433748I decided to do some digging for this for countries that border Indonesia and have a actual airforce and this is how it breaks down >Indonesia >Air to AirMBDA Meteor at 200 or so kilometres launched off the Rafale, followed by the R-77-1/RVV-SD at 110 kilometres launched by the SU-27/Su-30MK2>Air to Surface SCALP-EG at 250 kilometres to 500 kilometres for the Rafale followed by the Kh-59MK anti-ship cruise missile at 285 kilometres for the Su-30MK2>Australia >Air to AirThe AIM-120D-3 AMRAAM at 160 kilometres launched off the F-35A, F/A-18F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler. >Air to Surface AGM-158B JASSM-ER at 925 kilometres and the AGM-158C LRASM at 500 kilometres launched off the F-35A, F/A-18F Super Hornet and P-8A Poseidon.>Singapore >Air to AirAIM-120C-7/D AMRAAM at 105 to 160 kilometres launched off the F-15SG Strike Eagle and F-16C/D Block 52 >Air to Surface AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER at 250 to 270 kilometres launched off the F-15SG Strike Eagle>Malaysia >Air to AirR-77/RVV-AE at 80 to 100 kilometre range launched off the Sukhoi Su-30MKM>Air to Surface Kh-59ME/Kh-59MK at 115 kilometres to 285 kilometres for the Sukhoi Su-30MKM.
>>65433667This reads like the Libyan air force under Gadaffi. Gucci purchases of top of the line aircraft from all over the world. No actual planning and a logistical nightmare.>This will be the most powerful airforce in AsiaLibya also made the claim to having the most powerful air force in Africa.
>>65436373>RVV-SD at 110 kilometresit's "more than 110km", we don't have the exact number
>>65436373It's nuts how big a gamechanger the Rafale deal was for them like it was for the jeets. they went from being mogged by all their neighbors to the other way round
>>65433667>FOUR trainersis it just money laundering?
>>65438669Ausfalia/Singapoor shidding themselves etc
>>65433474>>65432886I expect each airframe-model has its own singular home base. Each airbase is the fiefdom of a particular colonel / general king-nigger. Each little king has his own court of clerks with their own supply chain, and they don't intersect or share (mostly incompatible) components between each other as part of some unified, centralized, rational system anyway.When they do share components, it becomes a running tab of informal favors and reputation-economy, way beyond the airfield. Gifts and services, hood gang style.Any Indogs itt that can confirm or deny?
>>65433117Let's be honest here - leafs don't really need anything more than a replacement for the F18s and Grippen/f16 fills that role pretty competently.
Australia vs Indonesia, which air force wins?
Australia thanks all the white Christian beings nations for arming the world's largest Muslim county. And especially to isreal, for arming their mad islamo-fascist dictator Suharto.
>>65433667>me when playing RTS for the first time and capture all buildings to see all planes together
>>65439236Australia, not even close. 75 F35s with 500 AIM120s, 20 EW. And we're rapidly producing ghost bats which really are revolutionary.This world pilots strongly advised not to take off, jump too high, throw anything into the air.
>>65438669>they went from being mogged by all their neighbors to the other way roundThe problem for the Indonesians is that with all this kit they still have zero (I repeat ZERO) AWAC’s or dedicated EW craft. Even with Meteor’s they are still not the top dog in the region with their massive air fleet
>>65440482Are AWACs still needed in the age of space-based assets?
>>65440556>Are AWACs still needed in the age of space-based assets?If you don’t have any space based assets then yes, Indonesia has neither
>>65440922wrong
>>65441122All communications satellites though?
I need a refuel
>>65441122>The Laotians are up to something
