Where do you buy your surplus firearms from?I want a k31 or at least an Arisaka or something but I’m not sure where to find them at reasonable prices
>>65435233Reasonable prices are dead. Normies getting into it killed gun deals. We should have gatekeeped harder.
>>65435233Just like in fishing, never share your secret spots.>>65435244>We should have gatekeeped harderAnd here I was always being called a dick for not being helpful. I'll be helpful with someone once they have a gun but I'm sure as fuck not helping them find one.
>>65435233>where to find them at reasonable pricesLOL, LMAO even.
>>65435244that's not the problem, the problem is surplus is available at import for pennies on the dollar, a government spent defense budget on equipment then effectively threw it away when they'd gotten their value from it. the stuff is still generally better quality than what's available commercially, but consumers get caught up in how much it costs subconsciously mistaking it for junk, when you're really getting fantastic value. when it's around for long enough people start to appreciate that and it starts commanding prices more in line with what they would cost to make. the trick was to get the newest surp, but now that almost all the stores of bolt actions and semi autos are gone gun laws seem to prevent any fresh imports. you can roll with it and get a cetme kit for $125 and try building your own, or buy a deer gun, maybe get a cmp m14.
>>65435274The actual problem is that surp is exclusively a boomer phenomenon. New surp is illegal, so there hasn't been anything new on the market for decades, just people digging up ever smaller and lower quality caches of the same old shit. If there was new stuff constantly coming onto the market, you'd have collectors spreading their money over a wider variety of historical firearms. Instead, the "meta" if you will has turned to autistic shit like "collect one of every single rollmark of every Mauser variant" which bloats the value of those guns as every surp collector tries to get their hands on 250 "different" Mausers.
>>65435306things are going in a direction i'd never have anticipated, the atf has reversed themselves on the barrel ban, they are allowing automatic m14s to be converted and sold as semi autos. it's not too far a leap to imagine if things keep going this way we might see imports of semi converted select fire arms some day. or maybe it was just a certain period in history, like bannerman's castle filled with explosives and civil war belt buckles. there are always deals though, just not on the stuff you particularly want.
>>65435338Let's just see if all this survives a post Trump presidency. I'm being very guarded in my enthusiasm
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Define reasonable price for k31
>>65435462Under 700
>antique luxury collectible with historic value increases in price over timewow who could have seen that one comingYou can go and get an AR-15 for under $300 right now. You can get a turkshit shotgun for $80, or $110 for one that won't detonate like a pipe bomb. It's the golden age for cheap guns. You're just mad you missed out on those impractical luxury collectibles before they started to rise in value.
>>65436166Yes this is all correct thank you
>>65435233Just buy old civlilan bolt actionsWith any luck you could find a pre64 winchester model 70/54 or remington model 30/720/721 for the same price as a nice arisaka, and have literally a 300% better gun with ammo you can find in every store. All model 54s, early model 70s, and all model 30s and 720s even had stripper clip guides too
>2021 there were Beretta M1951s, got a few>2022 there were carcanos, got a few>2025 bought K31 for $600 and even scored a case of GP11 for $400>2025-2026 got SEVERAL Star 30m pistols>you can still buy CZ-82s>you can still buy some other shit I'm forgetting
>>65435233The days of old military surplus are over.The days of LEO/Agency trade-ins is now. Get on that shit.
>>65440985>Get on that shit.I am anon and I approve this message.
>>65435622Some quick googlefu got me this for your price range if you select the cheapest options.https://max-arms.com/product/wf-swiss-k31-rifle/
>>65436829The entire point of milsurp is the historical value of it. Old hunting rifles don’t really have that. Why would you track down an antique hunting rifle when you can just buy a Tikka T3x at any big box store for less than 1000 bucks?
>>65441061Yeah, but a Sako Forester L579 in .243 pre-garcia is pretty fucking cool for not being surplus.
>>65435233Fucking mart-sharters. I recently bought a G11 for 200€ and my K31 for 380€.
>>65441061Just because a gun was used by a military doesnt mean it has any historical value. A gun used by my countrymen to sustain themselves has much more historical value than some rifle that was issued to some dude who likely never fired it outside of training, got put in storage, sat for 50 years, then got bought by a U.S. importer. Unless a rifle has PROVENANCE there cannot be historical value
