besides firebombing tokio or nuking japan. it common for drone teams to have 1000 kills with 0 looses. what we can learn from that?
nothing because you dont have access to explosives and america was alreadt developing the switchblade before the war.
>what we can learn from that?PGMs are good, tiny cheap PMGs are great.>>65439174Didn't you take high school chemistry? It's really isn't hard.t. the Aussie that got caught making ETN, HMTD, nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose.Thanks to being caught, charged and tried I have no problem talking about this shit openly as it's a matter of record.
>>65438933Not really any different from artillery.
>>65439174>switchbladeisnt comparable at all, switchblade cost $60,000 to $80,000 per unit so it cant be used so freely .> you dont have access to explosivesthis is a talk about a military for what reason a private citizen or even a militia would need explosive drones? try to say it without sounding like a domestic terrorist
>>65439201>private citizen or even a militia would need explosive drones?Explosive drones are recon + light mortar with a range of several km. Private security at certain businesses include concrete towers with .50cal machine guns.The drone threat from "terrorists" is mostly a matter of sophistication and will. The task of assembling a drone and an improvised payload is basically trivial. Your private security force now needs a radio frequency sniffer to detect nearby drones, and may use drones themselves to check near their perimeter.The world has changed. AI drones are already in use. The cat is out of the bag.
>>65438933This is our future. The politicians and industrialists will use fleets of drones to murder us all.
>>65438933we can learn from that that neither russia nor ukraine really have any good anti-drone countermeasures and there are other countries that have the time and money that are developing such things.
>>65439239Only if you have a problem with thirdie levels of corruption, if you are cool with paying 50% tax so billionaires can pay -10% tax everything is fine.
>>65439259this isn't ukraine shills, it's specifically brownoid third worlder shills that are obsessed with le drone revolution.
>>65439201> switchblade cost $60,000 to $80,000 per unit so it cant be used so freely .the way the US used to operate was shit cost that much and WAS used freely, but you all ran out of patriots recently so perhaps you suck now
>>65439306When was the last time the US used ~400,000 PGMs per month?That is the advantage that comes with cheap drones.
>>65438933A drone team that got hit is simple gone with no one else to keep the record and count.
The biggest long term issue for any one specific nation is Israel and it's physical size; we are at the point where it soon will be plausible to hit almost any place in their nation with a fiber optic drone. The threat of their entire nation becoming a grey zone is almost certainly a factor in them wanting buffer zones, i would be shocked if they were not planning multiple Iron Beam emplacements in the Golan for instance.
>>65439237>Your private security force now needs a radio frequency sniffer to detect nearby drones, and may use drones themselves to check near their perimeter.Fiber optic cable says hi
>>65439492Rotating cable shredders across all borders.
>>65439484>no one else to keep the record and count.Do you think they just send those guys out there and forget they exist? Leave the boys to forage for drones and ammo growing in the wild? I'm sure both sides have at least figured out how to write down a list of what dudes they sent where and cross them out if they suddenly stop reporting in.
>>65439612Only living people count their kills and only those doing good announce their k/d, making it seem easy. The smaller the unit, the easier for them to conflate and double count their kills which doesn't add up in a larger unit at the time of cleaning up the bodies and salvages. A small unit only need to suffer a little death for the morale and leadership damage to the point of disbanding and re-grouping under new name, for which the page on the record turns to a new entry. A 1000 kill team can easily mean group of 4 each has 250kills to 1000, but everyone only remembers accumulated kills carried over from previous dead teams, and kills from dead teammates, some of which are already double counted. Besides, has no one ever lied in times of war to cope with the daily brutality?Drone operator don't fly through tunnels and set up relays if they had not been found dead during faster and simpler operations.
>>65439782They're seeing the strikes on video, that generally makes for a pretty accurate BDA. Do you think they have to walk back to base to report on what they're doing? I'm not saying the reporting is 100% accurate or that OP's number isn't pulled straight out of his fruity little ass, but you seem to think that no one out there has a radio.
>>65438933>loosesESLs off my fucking board
>>65439782>>65439782>>65439782>lied in times of warof course propaganda exist but they need to document every kill because confirmed kills earns them credits that they can use for better gear. the general public dont have real numbers but people maintaining the credit system has them because its their job
>>65439201Are there actually any laws against attaching a black powder muzzle loading firearm to a drone and then using it to hunt deer?
>>65439782250 kills by an individual is very possible. 9 months is 270 days. A drone pilot in an active area realistically could average one kill a day because some days there might be nothing, other days they might run out of drones from too many targets.GWOT fighter pilots might deploy for 6mo, fly every third day and possibly drop bombs every sortie. That's 30 ground attacks. It adds up. This isn't COD infantry killstreaks, this is the support behind the infantry racking up kills from asymmetric safety.
>>65439915>Are there actually any laws against attaching a black powder muzzle loading firearm to a droneATF sometimes pretends electronic triggers are machine guns.FAA hates fun or innovation and has banned cargo drones unless you pay them.Laws? No not really.>hunt deerState government my pretend that you're doing illegal trapping with your flying claymore mine. The deer isprobably going to run from the drone and good luck chasing it.So probably not illegal, but you'll get arrested and prosecuted and found guilty because the judge hates you.
>>65439932>>65439915There are clips on youtube of people (China has a few i think) using drones to kill feral hogs. They drop a dart made out of a few feet of sharpened rebar onto them. They seem extremely effective since even if they are just 'wounded' they are literally nailed to the ground so they can't run.
>>65438933>it common for drone teams to have 1000 kills with 0 looses.Source?
>>65439183>t. the Aussie that got caughtSo it isn't that easy then?
>>65439838It's probably just a spelling mistake rather than English is OPs second language and they seriously thought that losses are spelt looses. Or you know there's plenty of English speakers who make grammar and spelling mistakes all the time
>>65440232Don't have housemates that put their dick in crazy.>housemate breaks up with crazy gf>ex gf tells the ops he's a dealer>it's complete bullshit>they search the house>find my chemistry set>think it's a meth lab>call in cop chemistsI just got very unlucky, that is the one time in my life my house has been searched.
>>65440264Don't illegally make explosives is the wiser lesson to take from that
>>65440274Nah, explosives are fun for all the family but avoid living with idiots.
>>65438933So you're saying we must NOOK.
>>65438933We learned that Russian nukes are inoperable because they probably realized that no one in their right mind in U.S. federal government is going to be stuck holding the political baggage for launching a general war against Russia.it does behoove us however, to treat the Ukraine war like Turbo-Afghanistan so we don't have to worry about at least the Russian Army for 20+ years.
>>65438933infantry will be like cavalry in ww1 , IN THE NEXT BIG WAR. at least in the offensive
>>65440264Lol i remember this story
>>65439198Yes, the weapon that allows you to stalk your victims and confirm their kills to the milisecond before the explosion is analogous to the "lob a shell at this point of the map and hope there is someone standing there"
>>65441217desu they complemen really well
>>65441217in terms of k/dr
>>65439201>this is a talk about a military for what reason a private citizen or even a militia would need explosive drones?Resistance during occupation.
>>65439926Chat gpt rhetoric
>>65439306>but you all ran out of patriots recently so perhaps you suck nowi love how the patriot is the new american grail wuderwaffe for anti-US posters. you will talk about it in the same way you talked about javelins and himars.
>>65441217Yeah. Read about Mackensen’s artillery phalanx during the gorlice-tarnow offensive. Whole russian divisions (10-20,000 men) utterly deleted in hours or less in some instances. I’m sure there are some WWI heavy artillery crews that have (unconfirmed) k/d ratios that high.
>>65439612Units in the field are often silent for days or weeks on end. Missing a check in could be an accident, a delay, or a sign of the entire unit being wiped out. There's no way to know unless you send someone out and find them.
>>65439174>switchbladeHas been mentioned more and more by people coping with the SecDef being a retarded alcoholic hamstringing our WAR FIGHTERS>We have had an FPV at home all this timeThe Ukies using Switchblade found it to be anemic and a better recon drone rather than a kill drone because of its high loitering time. Even the Russian first generation Lanceshit had a larger payload, and that was a demolition charge.
>>65439239solo nobre is burning
>>65441829they were spamming for years that le patriot was le shit and then suddenly if a country runs out of them it's really bad?i thought it wouldn't matter if they were such bad missiles.they truly do lie as naturally as they breathe, total thirdie death can't come soon enough.
>>65439612>Do you think they just send those guys out there and forget they exist?Are we talking about Ukrainians or Russians?
>>65441318>>65441941Yeah but your kills are theoretical : ^ )
>>65439174>no access to explosivesAnon r u constipated or something? You can buy ever-clear and marsh-mellows anywhere.
>>65439201Why would a private citizen ever need a gun? Quite simply those are weapons of war, we should ban bows and arrows. Perhaps kitchen knives.
>>65440274You make illegal explosives every time you fart anon
>>65441577AI was trained by my decades of shitposting on internet forums.It is very easy to get a high kdr if you're a support weapon that somebody else calls in. You're not even the recon guy some other poor bastard has their life at risk and you sweep in and kill what they found. Of course you're getting a lot of kills and of course you're not dying because that poor grunt already took the risk for you.The only way drones are different is that drones can patrol and find their own targets without the grunt needing to call.
>>65444073>make a goofy-ass science class bomb>it maybe lights one person on fire
>>65444909I'm sorry to dissapoint you but those kills go to the guy who called in ypir fire support.>see Call of Duty
>>65440232>Goalposts sprinting for the horizonAre these anti energetics nu-k posts just bot posts? Tbh it'd make a lot of sense
